What is the ultimate end game?
1 2012-11-14 by wildfire2k5
Lets say the conspiracies floating around about world domination, fema camps, government overthrows, alex jones, illuminati, secret societs, obama being a puppet, etc. etc. are all true. What is the final end game? Having a smaller earth population? Ok cool, but why? If some secret society manages to take over the world what are they going to do with it? All of the rockefellers and rothschilds, with all of their power and wealth and influence, ok great. But WHY.
WHAT IS THE FINAL ENDGAME FOR ALL THIS? GOLD? ALIENS? WHAT?!
All of this conspiracy stuff is interesting to read about but nothing can answer why. Why god damn it why?!
29 comments
4 Roach55 2012-11-14
Our goal should be looking past their evil plans to a higher form of consciousness. They have the ability to take over because they have separated humans from nature. We are simply a vessel on this planet for a higher level of collective consciousness. They are clouding our symbiotic relationship with science and nature with horrible foods, sprayed aresols, and general mind manipulation. Detox yourself of their fabricated system of control. It is the hardest thing you will ever do, and there will be setbacks. Humans were created as vessels for a universal consciousness. Embrace yours.
2 wildfire2k5 2012-11-14
What do you mean by this?
As well as this?
7 Roach55 2012-11-14
The next step in human evolution will not be a physical adaptation to environment. It will be a shift in collective consciousness. The powers that be fear that this next step will be the end of the age of consumerism and currency hoarding. Knowledge of the universe and a higher understanding of your immediate surroundings will increase. People working eight hour days as obedient slaves to debt and consuming things in record numbers year after year will fade. Control by paranoia and fear will fade. Human consciousness at the base level will rise beyond current comprehension. I'm not saying this will happen in our lifetime. Shit, we may not even realize it for a thousand years, but I have a feeling that the Internet was a start. 9/11 being exposed will be another step. The steps of evolution are exponential. We are still on the slowly rising line, but eventually it will build up speed and crush this current level of consciousness. Do we really need to downvote people in this subreddit? All non-aggressive ideas should be respected here.
2 [deleted] 2012-11-14
The endgame is the denial of life. The universe is being stripped of it, as it succumbs to a plague modeled in the vision of the ultimate aryan genetic superiority: the grey alien clones.
We were all unfortunate to have been born in this galaxy, on this planet. Perhaps in another incarnation or something we'll truly escape the single most substantial flaw to the universe: the grey aliens.
The endgame is the same as the endgame for a virus. A virus kills its host, and it remains there, inert, as a testament to an error.
You must understand: the most efficient model for an invasion is not to concentrate on a single target with an overwhelming force, but to spend the majority of your time traveling and germinating the seeds of destruction to a maximum number of nodes on an infinitely vast chessboard. The universe is vast, so I would imagine that most of their efforts are simply in infecting the maximum number of galaxies in the minimum amount of time, possibly even in a manner that doesn't arouse too much suspicion from other aliens, who perhaps BLAME us for the fact that we're human and have a vulnerability to highly intelligent conspiracies.
2 wildfire2k5 2012-11-14
Why? What do "they" have to gain?
You could say our planet is being stripped of life, but we don't even have evidence of life in the rest of the universe. And alien greys? Sources please.
What this implies is that someone interfered and made a mistake. They are fixing an error. What error?
Also, even if all life on the planet were destroyed we have evidence that nature would again, find a way to produce life. Whether it started up again in 100 years or 100 million years, we have evidence that life would start up once again.
0 [deleted] 2012-11-14
"What do they have to gain?" The concept of gain/loss is laughable. The question is: what do they have to lose? They have everything to lose, which is what they gain. They gain by losing because they're tired of being able to gain so easily. When a culture has limitless technology, they'll inevitably live alone, in a television video game inception reality, snorting a kind of oxygen cocaine that somehow doesn't have withdrawal symptoms, engaged in a constant intellectual orgasm, desperately trying to be the last to ever have had the luxury of living that way. All conceivable variables involving life have been completely solved for them. The pursuit of the great error- the ultimate seed of destruction, is all they have left to live for.
"..alien.. sources please." We have mathematical evidence for imaginary numbers, but if someone said, "non-real numbers? evidence please." You'd have a hard time convincing them without first teaching them some inferences to advanced calculus. Simply saying, "root(-1)" could easily be disputed.
Anyways, here's a link to a youtube video playlist: www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL6N-CZELzviJ6FxxDa1VoLhpnRREKJu7_&feature=plcp
You'll find that the scheme in its entirety is simply too brilliant to have been fabricated by mankind. Rest assured, a person will always have to believe that aliens exist in order to completely prove it. It's just easier to believe when you've investigated every clue and inference properly, with a mind that is capable of shame and devoid of attitude.
".. they are fixing an error. what error?" The number of dimensions in the universe was proven mathematically in the early 17th century: ~2.718. The universe is a universe because it is an e-verse. This is the nature of the error- things die, and the first person perspective of being capable of dying is mathematically impossible. It is an error that is committed in human weakness, but provoked by a divine conspirator, and ultimately moderated by a single perpetual cyclic inevitability: the birth and eventual slumber of God.
Perhaps the goal is in part to potentially summon the physical incarnation of God himself (because they feel that only God could truly damage them and they desperately want to be capable of experiencing mortality).
"..we have evidence that life would start up once again." Perhaps if God himself were summoned, the result would kill everything in all galaxies across all permutations of the time-space continuum.
1 wildfire2k5 2012-11-14
Hey I just got around to trying to watch that youtube playlist you sent me but the link doesn't work. Mind sending it again?
0 [deleted] 2012-11-14
made the link more accessible to lazy people who can't copy/paste. also, here's some non-youtube links that kinda go with the more scientific aspects.
http://www.witts.ws/iev/
http://www.panacea-bocaf.org/howtheywentwrong.htm
http://www.redicecreations.com/article.php?id=10601
http://www.sirbacon.org/4membersonly/puharich.htm
http://site.uri-geller.com/remote_perception_at_stanford_research_institute
Also, another (probably better now that I've had longer to think about it) answer to this question is that the aliens and conspirators and what not are just a bunch of fucking assholes and their endgame is just to continue suppressing mankind because they've already been getting thousands of free underground bases out of it. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vf7vLXf5bNo
So.. it's probably not that epic as I'd probably like to imagine it, but w/e. It still exists (the conspiracy part, but maybe not so much with the stuff about gods and higher powers, though it doesn't take much to be a higher power than a human), and it's not like some irrational nonsense that a few people pulled outa their ass. There are MANY different lines of evidence supporting conspiracy theory, and they all tend to be VERY consistent with one another.
1 wildfire2k5 2012-11-14
The link just didn't work. You think I don't know how to copy/paste? WTF?
0 [deleted] 2012-11-14
all i did was take the old link and add "www.youtube.com/" to it. but, no, i can't say that b/c according to mr. genius here: "the link was impossible to use" or some shit.
FUCK YOU! I hope you never ever believe in anything that I believe in.
1 PingTiao 2012-11-14
That's the damned thing of it, we are not the conspirators and can't answer the why of their plans, we can only guess and theorize. I have my own ideas on this, but don't feel like being trolled today.
1 SovereignMan 2012-11-14
It all comes down to one simple word... greed.
The accumulation of wealth and power for the "chosen" few is the game. Total, uncontested control is the ultimate goal.
1 wildfire2k5 2012-11-14
And then what? That never lasts. Do they start over? What do they need to control us for? Just because?
1 [deleted] 2012-11-14
At this rate? Just death.
I'm not going to spew out some buzzwords to try and get karma, it's just the end-all assuming things go the way they are.
I don't think population control means a massive genocide.
0 Weedtastic 2012-11-14
Smiple Answer Death.
they want reduce the population (500'000-2'000'000)that they can control easy a new world order.
There New World Order would be a mix between George Orwell's 1984 and Brave New World from Aldous Huxly.
there are 2 ways how a new world order would probably end.
The complete Destruction of Humanity or Humanity enslaved forever.
You should understand that these people love Death,destruction,fear etc.
1 evenmoretiredoflibs 2012-11-14
yup thats why they kill themselves and live in broken-ass houses
1 Weedtastic 2012-11-14
for everyone expect them obviously.
1 wildfire2k5 2012-11-14
Ok, but that never works out. Even if somehow they succeeded in pulling this off it would only last for so long. People are not meant to enslaved forever and it would not last as history has shown us. And if we were all destroyed...well fuck; nothing you can do about that.
2 Weedtastic 2012-11-14
yes maybe 20 years ago we have today advanced technology which can easy control people.
i disagree on this one too.
History shows that we have some damn luck which without we probably would have already a major nuclear war or would have a dictator like hitler controlling most of the world.
Hitler was controlled by the same group that is still trying to install a new world order.
These People have detailed plans and are thinking 3 steps ahead.
1 wildfire2k5 2012-11-14
What technology do we have that we can control huge masses like that? And again, for what?
Like I said earlier, even if they somehow managed to form a "New World Order" (what does that mean exactly?) it would not last. Even if it were around for 500 years it would eventually die out.
Has anyone ever thought that maybe now we are living in this "NWO?" I mean everyone is scared shitless due to religion, the world ending, and various governments around the world, especially ours (USA). There are already a few people at the top who have their hands in everybodie's pockets. Investments in China, Russia, and various other "enemies" as well as our allies throughout the world.
They can look at all of our online activity no matter what. If they want to come into your house they can. If they want to lock you up and throw away the key they can. I mean the law says they can't but if they really want to the patriot act will allow it. They have people like Alex Jones and all of the doomsday people who predict the end of the world and the inevitable governmental take over set up for us just long enough to keep us fearful of the next thing. They dangle just enough "plausible" evidence and allow a few thought provoking youtube videos to get through to keep the people who aren't afraid of religion and the various other controlling instruments they have in place I am telling you. This is it.
1 Weedtastic 2012-11-14
Sonic Weapons,Drone's for Surveillance and attack,Shock braclets (Not even so far away like you think.) etc.
A New World order is defined as World Goverment, World Army, World Central bank etc.
With groups like the UN,NATO,Trilater Commision,European Union we are slowly going in this direction. More Globalization, less People are must be controlled.
These are exactly the people i talk about.
Sure they can and are doing it too.
The "Problem" the tyranny is hidden at the moment, they are waiting for the right time (economy collapse, iran war...) to roll it out.
So you are Implying that Alex Jones is a disinformant agent?
They don't "predict" the doomsday they are only looking at the warnings that are everywhere.
1 wildfire2k5 2012-11-14
We already have Drones, Sonic weapons have been brought out during protests, and the shock bracelets I think are a little too far fetched right now. I don't think people are ready to willingly put those on yet.
Not sure what you are trying to say here. Must be a typo. But yes, with UN, NATO, EU etc the World Government/World Bank is already happening.
I don't think tyranny is as hidden as you think. While there are indeed a vast number of americans that think everything is hunky dory, most are not stupid and have witnessed the current threat of the government. I think incidents like Occupy Wallstreet, the Anaheim protests, stories of various people being killed in their own homes trying to protect themselves, and just the all out recent brutality of many police forces have brought a lot of people into the fold who now realize that our government and the police don't really give a fuck and have are a threat and have the potential grow even larger.
And everyone knows if the government wants something from you they will get it. No matter what. If they have some laws they have to bypass then so be it. FBI, CIA, Secret Service, Private Contractors, they don't operate within our laws and nothing we say or do is private unless we are absolutely sure it is not documented in some way.
The economy collapse, well we will find out at the end of this year when the fiscal cliff thing happens.
The Iran war will not happen. Or at least not an all out nuclear WWIII type war that everyone is thinking.
What I think is going on is that like I said, they are letting people like Alex Jones tell their story. I think they keep him out there for the people who are not afraid of the government. Who are not afraid of religion. Who are not afraid to exercise their rights in front of police. People like him are scaring people into thinking this take over is going to be bigger than it really is and keeping fear alive where it would have otherwise died. If it were really going to be as big as AJ/They say it is then he would be shut down really quick. All the videos of him saying oh "I am not suicidal, I can drive a car, I don't plan on having any accidents." You think that matters to them? You become a problem you get thrown away.
1 Weedtastic 2012-11-14
Yeah i know but they sure will increase there use.
Poll 35% would wear shock braclet i am already shocked that 35% would do it.
When they want the people to wear it in a new world order they have no choice.
Sure its somewhat open but what i meant was nazi like open tyranny.
More Globalization, less People must be controlled.
Meaning it gets easier to control many people
Infowars is pretty big site now they can't kill him, it would underline his information to much like William Cooper.
They only try to discredit him.
They can't do this today like 10 years ago we have the internet information is spreading to fast. (doesen't mean they don't kill other people).
1 wildfire2k5 2012-11-14
I just don't see a dictatorship rising Nazi style and a whole world take over to that extreme. While you have been the one to provide, I think the best, examples so far I still just don't see it.
I'll concede a to the possibility of a world government, even a world bank. But I just don't see the extreme wipe out and forceful takeover that everyone seems to think is going to happen. And again even if it does I don't think it will last. That kind of thing never lasts as history has shown us.
And those 35% of assholes that would wear that bracelet are fucking stupid. I saw that when you first posted the link and was thinking who the fuck are these people?! I would never travel again if that crazy nonsense was implemented.
1 Weedtastic 2012-11-14
I know what you mean.
This planned is carried out since generations and they are always trying to accomplish the most without moving to fast and waking people up.
Another thing this will be triggerd by a special event (False Flag Operation, Economy Collapse, Iran maybe etc.) like i said before there will be a mainstream Story that sells the tyranny.
(Look back at Nazi germany Hitler did says the jews are responsible for everything bad, WWII started with a False Flag)
Same could happen this time with "terrorist".
"Suspected Terrorist" (Muslims) would get first in the FEMA Camps.
They would maybe even do a Hitler 2.0 and after WWIII they say World goverment is the only solution to stop war.
I don't know how exactly they want bring a New World Order obviously but these are real possibilitys.
I would already not fly lol .The options between radiation or sexual abuse aren't real options.
-1 yahvus 2012-11-14
With a smaller population controlling the masses for slavery purposes is easier. More wealth and minerals can be accumulated for more secured control so it can never be broken; or it can be used for space travel in the future. They are just a group of sickos that only care about power and we are the herd that needs thinned out.
0 wildfire2k5 2012-11-14
Space travel is so far the only plausible answer I have been given. Even then I don't see why they would have to take over the world or destroy half the population for space travel.
If it is for slavery/harvesting minerals, my question is why? With hardly anybody left to rule whats the point?
And I can't really argue with that. That goes without saying.
-1 DwarvenPirate 2012-11-14
Why, the return of Jesus/Mahdi/Emmanuel, of course!
7 Roach55 2012-11-14
The next step in human evolution will not be a physical adaptation to environment. It will be a shift in collective consciousness. The powers that be fear that this next step will be the end of the age of consumerism and currency hoarding. Knowledge of the universe and a higher understanding of your immediate surroundings will increase. People working eight hour days as obedient slaves to debt and consuming things in record numbers year after year will fade. Control by paranoia and fear will fade. Human consciousness at the base level will rise beyond current comprehension. I'm not saying this will happen in our lifetime. Shit, we may not even realize it for a thousand years, but I have a feeling that the Internet was a start. 9/11 being exposed will be another step. The steps of evolution are exponential. We are still on the slowly rising line, but eventually it will build up speed and crush this current level of consciousness. Do we really need to downvote people in this subreddit? All non-aggressive ideas should be respected here.