WATCH OUT GUYS, QUANTUM MECHANICS IS GONNA GET YA

The rhythm already got me.

My next door neighbor is a government-planted Jewish Freemason Illuminati Reptilian. I know too much, I think they're gonna come after me soon with an earthquake ray and cause a sinkhole below my house.

Only shills will downvote this.

What the hell is goig on with this sub? Is this really being upvoted?

But dude he is pretty sure its based on Quantum Mechanics. Im pretty sure things are based on (insert science or math terminology) too and I have links and everything.

Quantum Mechanics, real deal. Isn't that a mechanic that works on Quantum cars?

Guys?

thats what they want you to think. Its actually a new TV show coming this fall on Fox. All the so called science up to this point was actually just done to trick you into watching.

I can't decode your message. I am not highly educated with a degree in Quantum Mechanics which I am sure you totally understand.

rule number 3.

No abusive/threatening language.

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This sub went from great stuff to nutjobs posting everything.

"I woke up today and my toe was hurting." "Must be Chem trails!"

9/10 articles linked are disproved in the top comment.

You are suffering from paranoia.

RON PAUL WAS AN INSIDE JOB!

9/11 IS A CHEMTRAIL!

ILLUMINATI ATE MY HAMPSTER!

9/10, bud. I didn't say this thread was that way.

I read it, but that does not make it true.

You don't KNOW anything. Pure speculation.

I testify that I can walk on water. First hand testimony. Must be true, right?

First hand testimony ain't shit. If you have some sort of free energy perpetual motion machine or know someone that does, than please let them step forward with proof of this and let the evidence speak for itself. We can go ahead and throw out the 2nd law of thermodynamics while we're at it, as well as heisenburgs uncertainty principal and the rest of our thousands of years of scientific inquiry as well. Let this person who owns such a device step forward to claim their spot as the most brilliant man know to all of history so that a million years from now our children will read about him in history books. He can go ahead and claim every Nobel prize for the next century while he's at it.

If, however, you have no evidence of a working device, than kindly stop making shit up on the Internet where teenagers may find it and think it's real.

Well, that's an irrefutable argument! I'm convinced.

Ignore the shills. They like to derail threads

"It's also possible to reverse entanglement"

Uh..

Yeah this is some campy bullshit and while I make throwaways for reddit, all of reddit because it's a fucking garbage collectivist pop culture training camp, the last thing I am is a disinfo agent.

It IS just media and social pressure. Flashing video clips with commentary IS enough to shape your thoughts. Literally, it carves neural pathways against your will and being presented with different views causes tension - cognitive dissonance.

You can't "reverse entanglement". This post shows a complete lack of any sort of understanding into what Quantum Mechanics even MEANS.

The program is to give people easy access to sin and slavery. It is not to make meat puppets out of people. It doesn't "count" then, and if you know anything about this stuff you'll know what that means.

YOUR POST is disinfo. It is pseudo science bullshit that discredits anyone telling their friends and relatives about "media mind control" that might have heard such joke ass shit about "mind control"

May there be a way to control someone like this? Possibly. Is the goal to control EVERYONE in this way? No way. People need to walk through that door of their own free will for it to mean anything. This would be, at best, a tool to use here and there on a throwaway for the person of mass culture shaping - if even that.

The red pill is the uncomfortable truth. The blue pill is to remain in blissful ignorance.

Guess you subconsciously admitted it's bollocks.

Why would you change the comment to make it incorrect before posting it?

Wow, that title is ridiculous. I got to "based on quantum mechanics" and literally burst out laughing.

Anyway, while I'm here, I also though I'd point out the rules that this post probably breaks:

2: No Blog Spam

About half the links there are to the same loony blog.

7: NO Facebook links. All Facebook links are subject to removal.

First link.

It does have a lot of woo. All of my friends are physicists and they all claim categorically that they do NOT understand quantum mechanics, they can use it, but it completely escapes them. I have one friend who, during his undergrad years (theoretical physics) claimed absolutely that he could understand it on some deep, almost spiritual level. He was wrong by his own admission, he in fact was guilty of and demonstrating perfectly, the Dunning-Kruger effect. Namely, the less you know of something, the more you think you know. It ties in with the old saying, a little knowledge is dangerous. Too many times the 'weirdness' of quantum mechanics pops up in these threads as though to confirm some pseudoscience BS, with links to YouTube and wikipedia as fact, or less often an actual published paper, usually taken way out of context. Too many similarities with conspiracy theorists in the way they think and how they process information, they're not retarded, on the contrary, a lot of them are quite smart.

Feeding my addiction. I can't get enough of this stuff. And a post with QM is too good to pass on, I have to read more. I have not read all your links, but I'm getting through them. I like to take time reading stuff so you'll have to bear with me. It can take months for me to read a scientific paper, some things can't be rushed.

teleporting charge via entanglement,

Do you understand what this means? I think you don't understand quantum entanglement which isn't surprising. There's no actual teleporting of charge going on at all. Please show me why you have such a mistaken understanding?

In quantum entanglement, or 'spooky action at a distance' experiments, one particle exhibits the same spin (not charge) as another particle - e.g. two positrons created by the same event are said to be 'quantum entangled' in this way. There is no teleportation of charge that I'm aware of. Please enlighten me if you're not mistaken.

bro i heard that you fuck dogs

do I know the difference. Yes. Do you understand it? obviously not.

being able to read wikipedia doesn't give anyone the understanding of a university degree.

shut up? why, so you can spew pseudoscience? do you know what superradiance is? do you even understand what a charge qubit is, where it resides, and what it is used for?

you attacked wikipedia

lol.. no I made fun of using wikipedia as you basis of knowledge. enjoy your pseudoscience. I bet it's a hit at parties.

"effected" by entanglement.

apparently you just accept this - but don't understand what it means. there is not teleportation. the one particle knows the state of the other through non-classical means. and you leap from there to teleporting charge states that affect neurons.. you can't see how pseudo-scientific this is - enjoy.

you are changing the properties of one entangled particle, by modifying the other

oh really - this is your understading? I think the conversation ends here because I'm not about to give you 17 lectures on quantum mechanics for free. stick to chemtrails.. it's your forte

in a fucking semiconductor not in your fucking brain. moron. LOL. and you are published in the field of QM?

what's complicated about it/ it's a quantum unit of information

first it says

It is useful for quantum information processing. However, it does not immediately transmit classical information,

then it says

Once you accept that entanglement can transmit classical information, and additionally charge,

uh yeah.. no.

quantum entanglement is not teleportation of charge. the proposal is to use 'superraciance' to 'teleport' charge qubits. teleport is not a properly descriptive term for it, but I understand why it is used to gain common appreciation.

don't understand. that's rich. I'm a published author in the field. What is your background in QM? wikipedia? LOL Oooh spelling mistake, call the science cops! LOLOL

You're an atmospheric scientist and published in qm? Which is it? Or, giving you the benefit of the doubt, where did you do your dissertation, in which subject, and under whom?

Where do I say I'm an atmospheric scientist? I only mentioned that I am well versed in the subject, and have published in the field of QM.

it's all chemistry.. and you want me to post personal information? are you for real?

My mistake. You said you're a chemist with a familiarity with atmospheric chemistry. Which still isn't quantum mechanics, which is usually considered physics. No, I don't want you to post personal info. It would be helpful to your cause however, to mention at least where you got your degree, what degree it is, and who supervised your dissertation. That is hardly identifying information, as there are I am sure many people who've studied the same thing where you studied whatever it was, and I doubt even naming your professor would be identifying at all.

QM hasn't been part of chemistry research since the early 20th century, you conspiratard.

I can publish a kids book and then call myself a child psychologist... you're not published... you're not an author anymore than a person who sits behind a keyboard making crazy conspiracy claims... send me your lawyer's info, I'm gonna sue you.

why on earth would he dox himself just to disprove a crazy person?

Wait, I'm 12 now? How did you get to that conclusion?

Do you know who Heinrich Kluver & Paul Busy are? In the late 1800’s they discovered through experimentation that the rhesus monkeys they experimented on who had their amygdales lesioned had profound behavioral shifts. These monkeys, who were caught in the wild would always react violently or aggressively with people. Monkeys who had a lesion became docile, and allowed people to poke & pinch them. http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/books/NBK11060/

What was later discovered was that electrically stimulating, as opposed to destroying the applicable part of the amygdala creates a “rage response”. http://www.ane.pl/pdf/3355.pdf please note that artificial stimulation would make anger under these circumstances an involuntary response.

Now, you do understand that MANY human achievements have taken place since Kluver & Busy’s discovery (e.g. Cellphones, Computers, human aviation, the internet) but neuroscience never stopped progressing!

At this point in time, the entire human brain has been mapped out, including all primary motor and somatosensory functions. http://science.howstuffworks.com/environmental/life/inside-the-mind/human-brain/brain-mapping.htm

This means that scientists have determined the areas of the brain responsible for things down to an eye blink or a nose twitch, but this is laughably old news (you knew all of this, right?)

Did you know that mind-reading technology exists today?

http://www.popsci.com/science/article/2011-09/mind-reading-tech-reconstructs-videos-brain-images http://www.guardian.co.uk/science/2012/jan/31/mind-reading-program-brain-words http://www.techpark.net/2008/12/17/scientists-extract-images-directly-from-brain/

Some mind-reading products are now being sold to the public at large: http://www.wired.com/gadgetlab/2010/03/thought-control-headset-reads-you-mind/?utm_source=Contextly& utmmedium=RelatedLinks&utm campaign=Previous

http://www.wired.com/gadgetlab/2012/07/necomimi-brainwave-cat-ears/?utm_ source=Contextly&utm_medium= RelatedLinks&utm_campaign= MoreRecently

How great is it to be able to play a video game with your mind? Although some would see this as a waste of mind-reading technology. Why would you care to sell a fancy controller to the public when you could instead keep mind-reading quiet and monitor the thoughts of foreign leaders? Seems like a simple choice, right?

And they’d never know if you wired them up using nanomachines: http://www.wired.com/dangerroom/2012/02/body-implants/

We know now that mind-reading technology is capable of RECEIVING information from our brains. Our brains are communicating with these devices. If mankind is capable of creating devices which can receive signals from our brains, do you really think that the creation and use of devices which can SEND information to our brains is a feat mankind is incapable of achieving?

Now let’s take a step back. Remember what you learned about your amygdala? Artificial stimulation of the amygdala unbeknownst to the target will produce an involuntary response. Our brains are biochemical machines DESIGNED to respond to certain stimuli, and artificial stimulation would simply be an exploitation of how we are built. If someone shocked the area of your amygdala responsible for anger, the “rage response” it is designed to prompt would occur.

Now what if you could use artificial stimulation WITH artificial thoughts? You could make people think and act in ways that they may not otherwise. This is especially true is people with certain psychological profiles are subjected to such treatments.

Imagine someone with little or no friends, and a lot of angst was targeted. For weeks this person is the recipient of a barrage of thoughts almost indistinguishable from his own such as “how dare they…” “they’re not getting away with that..” all being sent to him remotely, and in conjunction with the stimulation of the area of his amygdala responsible for anger. Eventually, the messages creep towards “I think I’m going to get a gun” and “I think I’ll do it today”.

If you invest enough time (weeks, months, years) you could likely create a person capable of homicide. But because of the nature of the rage response, you wouldn’t end up with a cold, and calculating killer, but more likely something along the lines of a “school shooter”, at least for now.

At this juncture I need to clearly state that all murderers are solely responsible for their own actions, but I will also state a few facts independent of opinion:

1: This technology exists 2: This research field is not being properly regulated 3: as with everything, the potential for abuse exists 4: unknowing & vulnerable populations have been exploited before, and as recently as 2005 when experimental AIDS medication was given to foster kids unbeknownst to them http://www.jsonline.com/blogs/news/135182383.html#!page=1& pageSize=10&sort=newestfirst

I look forward you “your” responses.

This technology does not exist. There is such a monumental gap between reading an EEG and actually corresponding that to specific thoughts or impulses. What scientists are doing in these experiments is simply matching measurements to stimuli repeatedly. Don't get me wrong, it's incredibly cool but it isn't mind reading, it's more akin to being able to recognize that a brain is doing something in response to stimuli, not being able to see what the brain is doing. The word recognition example required thousands of sampling points to get even an attempt at matching words to responses. The machine would not be able to work had the subject not been in exactly the same situation thinking exactly the same thoughts that the machine was calibrated on.

We don't know how the brain works and neuroplasticity shows us that our brains our highly configurable and unique to each person. The concept of anything beyond trial and error pattern matching on calibrated stimuli is beyond our current understanding period.

Then there is the jump to people being able to send messages. We had enough difficulty trying to flip bits in a highly engineered memory device twenty years ago and that was with placing a magnetic needles millimeters away. We are somehow managing to modify a highly complex, biological, constantly shifting system from a great distance all without emitting detectable radiation of any kind? Yeah, okay, no.

This is wishful thinking and pathological science. You are extrapolating wildly without understanding the core principles of what you are extrapolating about.

Have you posted this to r/neuroscience? Those guys over there are quite active in the field, you'll get some trained insight over there. To me it seems we're making progress but we're still a way off. Sure it sounds scary, but a lot of research might entail stimulating the brain and measuring a response, if that response is akin to mind control it isn't the purpose of the research, which is too learn about brain functions. Yes, all advances in knowledge can ultimately be used against us, but only by a minority, there are too many people working these areas to improve the world, the minority who abuse give the rest of us a bad name. The methods of mind control you mention are SciFi at best at the moment, we are manipulated far more effectively in more subtle ways and even then it doesn't quite work all the time.

considering all the information that is here.

Would this be possible ?

http://www.theforbiddenknowledge.com/hardtruth/illuminati_formula_mind_control.htm

And, if it is possible is there enough evidence to support that somebody is using this type of programming on humans.

Never go full retard.

this is absolute nonsense. there are real issues out there, lets focus on them.

I have to disagree with you. This is one of their's way of attack and we have to defend to all incoming. If you know what they're doing, it's just a simply changing your habits. Not much effort needed, but we can't ignore it. Peace.

Don't be so quick to suppress someone's ideas. One man's non-issue is another's mental plague.

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It's not the box, the computer hardware, that is the computer. It's not the thing within the box. It's not the thing that's within the thing that's within the box either. It's the logic and code that is embedded into those things deep down at a low level that controls all that hardware is that makes it like a brain. The state of Quantum Computing is close to being within a pin's prick of emerging to a point where it comes close to resembling something that is useful. Who knows what sort of code is possible on hardware that doesn't even exist yet?

Scientists are becoming ever more aware of how computer-like the brain is the more they dig into it. They're beginning to be able to interface with it, directly give it input and receive raw output that actually translates into something meaningful. That's a computer. We just don't know the code. We don't understand the hardware.

Almost. The brain processes information differently than a computer. A computer can only handle one thing at a time, so called serial processing, the brain on the other hand uses parallel processing. Advances in computers are trying to bring us parallel processing but it's no where near what organic brains are capable of. More research is needed, more open, transparent, publicly available research that is. I despise science done secretly, though I can understand their motives. But to me science is a human achievement and should benefit everyone!

This is selective attention at the service of a predefined narrative, from what I can make of it.

Quantum physics isn't nasty or malicious, in fact I think you would love reading some Robert Anton Wilson, like the Illuminatus trilogy or Prometheus Rising.

Magic is the everyday application of quantum mechanics by using the subconscious, but the state department obviously knows this all too well.

Anyone ever browse the internet and see how many online stores sell electronics to "help" targeted individuals? I have a friend who was scammed for thousands on these devices. It really is sick, and I wish these people wouldn't take advantage of others' weak mental state.

You're right but it still preying on people's suffering.

I met a man in the ER today. He was a black middle aged man being forced to stay in his room by security. He was swearing his house and car were being bugged because he would say something in private and friends and family would repeat it to him later. He accused me numerous times of trying to read his mind. I felt really bad for him. It's very difficult to differentiate between crazy and concise in these circumstances.

I know the technology, in every way shape and form, [ mind control ] MAYBE on weaker individuals, and I personally find it unhumane..and painfull, and suicide invoking on certain people. I have been able to fool the technolgy repetitively and just think about the wrong thing over band over , I am covering up some sensitive material with a umm mind control jam!!

Love

Welcome to TrollFest 2013. WTF

Upvote. I don't believe this stuff but it is damn refreshing to see an articulate and well sourced contribution.

I notice random incomplete commercial-esque thoughts pass in my head and wonder if its subconscious echos from the day to day subliminals or schizophrenia.

Hi others,

As I noted many months ago, understanding the qualia of electrical brain stimulation is crucial if you want to understand mind control and the mental mazes that it can be used to construct:

Individuals whose brain centers are electrically stimulated believe their evoked actions are their own ideas; their conscious mind rationalizes the evoked actions away. People experiencing this electrical stimulation aren't consciously aware of an external influence. (José Delgado, Physical control of the mind: toward a psychocivilized society; p. 116.)

This has a couple of implications.

1. If an outside controller wants to make you do something using electrical brain stimulation, and it seems like a reasonable thing to do, you'll do it without hesitation, and even think it was your idea. Brainwashing changes a person's idea of what seems reasonable. Brainwashing can turn ordinary people into loaded weapons - and electrical brain stimulation used on those people "pulls the trigger".

2. If several people around you are having this kind of technology used on them, they can easily be made to do things that "seem reasonable" to them but that, from your perspective, seem threatening. There's a carefully designed sequence of events a person can be led through, which I call "The Program", which will cause most people to self-destruct and may lead them to act out violently. In my opinion it is based on the use of electrical brain stimulation (used on the target, and others around him, in a very deceptive way).

I talk about it in "The Program, explained" and "Sleight of Mind: deception and mind control" in a couple of podcasts.

By the way, pretty much every 'victim' web site or support group is worse than useless. They love assets who are foaming at the mouth (negative PR and ridicule is an important aspect of the disinformation ecosystem surrounding this subject) and those assets will be goaded into spewing nonsense, non-stop.

-shills pay the bills-

Interesting concept OP. Good post

The rhythm already got me.

You're an atmospheric scientist and published in qm? Which is it? Or, giving you the benefit of the doubt, where did you do your dissertation, in which subject, and under whom?

I can publish a kids book and then call myself a child psychologist... you're not published... you're not an author anymore than a person who sits behind a keyboard making crazy conspiracy claims... send me your lawyer's info, I'm gonna sue you.