Utilizing drugs to pay for secret wars around the world.

Drugs are now your global policy.

Now you police the globe.

Drug money is used to rig elections and train brutal corporate sponsored dictators around the world.

THEY'RE TRYNA BUILD A PRISON

FORYOOANDMETOOLIVIN

it use to be used for that you mean, when all had to be done in the shadows to over throw governments and install puppets, but as we learned from the arab spring they no longer need covert tactics to get that done. they dont need drugs anymore to be illegal, they could legalize it, make most people happy for a couple of weeks and get a lot of "activists" off their backs by letting them smoke their pot.

They are quoting System of a Down lyrics, Prison Song.

i guess his username shoulda gave it away eh

My usernames actually tattooed on me! And I have an SOAD tattoo.

If they make a new album I'll splooge everywhere.

Drug money is used to rig elections and train brutal corporate sponsored dictators around the world.

isnt this from a song? tool maybe?

edit: reading responses, now i know.

upvote for SoaD

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SgGnSdehxtw

I'll buy my crack and I'll smack my bitch right here in hollywood!!

Meanwhile at #1 on the front page...

http://imgur.com/a/ZLQ6k

Its a story of a little girl who had seizures and pain her whole life. Then they get some cannabis oil, and now shes kickin ass.

Heres my take on your query. I believe cannabis has been demonized for a long time. Only recently does it fit within their plans to placate the public. It makes so much sense for legalization, but on the other hand, it still makes sense for them to keep it illegal.

If they do legalize it, I still won't trust the motherfuckers as far as I could throw them. It would be like being in a loveless abusive marriage for the majority of your life, only for one day the bitch decides to give you a blow job for the first time in decades. Fuck you bitch, that ain't good enough.

Rolling this promotion out like a brand new rug. I call it operation "placate masses, while opening up prison space for our the next phony villain"

opening up prison space for...

LOL! They ain't letting no one go free. They be in prison for committing crimes that were Crimes when they committed them. Too bad, but atleast lil Jr won't be in prison next to dad for possessing a dime bag.

yes well as existing prisoners die off...they won't have as much flow coming in...so that opens up "spots". I bet those spots are filled with new growth streams.

I Can't wait until thought Crime Processing begins on a massive scale. Then we'll have a truly free AND SAFE world to live in.

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There have been many stories like it documented before. Funny how they pick Now to start paying attention.

Yes funny to watch a MD who has worked in medicine and studied health issues his whole life is acting like this stuff is news to him. Gupta is a total tool.

Now if we can just get him to cough up the truth about HPV teen vaccinations (they're coming after your teenage boys and your newborns!) and also the MMR vaccination, (as opposed to alternate, single dose, controlled vaccinations,) and "truth in labeling" for all the shit they want to shoot into our bodies.

It's sad that people are seeing his pivot and thinking "Man, there really Might be something to this MMJ thing!".

Even more so when you realize they themselves don't see that they are being manipulated.

they've been paying attention. Now that they have accidentally royally pissed off the public by spying on them and letting that skeleton out of the closet, they now have to pretend to give a shit about the people.

Tell me, when did Federal Gay rights happen, before or after the NSA spying scandal? Exactly. Now Federal MJ rights? They are doing damage control. F the Gov't. THEY ARE 98% Corrupt! And that is giving them a huge benefit of the doubt IMO.

Gov't playing the "THINK OF THE CHILDREN" card....

Wait until they add the 600 chemicals to the pot. Then it will be TRUE gov't sponsored Dope.

Ive always assumed that's what would happen if they did "legalize" it. Imagine them busting people for growing their own because it's not "processed safely".

• shudder *

Let get the quack outta here.

They do that to farmers who don't pasteurize their NATURAL milk.

I'm Sorry Johnny pothead, you didn't lace your MJ with our happy chemicals. Prison time and bankruptcy for you...

You say "natural" like it's supposed to mean "good". Mycobacterium tuberculosis is natural, but you sure as hell don't want it in your milk.

And pasteurization doesn't add any chemicals to milk, it just heats the milk to kill most of the bacteria.

Sorry I meant Homogenized.

Homogenizing milk means you send it through high pressure sprayers so that the cream and the milk emulsify together and won't separate.

sorry I meant Pasteurizing.

Right, it's just heating the milk to kill most of the bacteria. Same reason you boil water from a stream or lake before drinking it.

Yeap. The real problem lies in the hormones and antibiotics that are pumped into the cows at an early age to make them grow faster. They start to develop a resistance to the antibiotics, and when a disease hits, there isn't much that can be done to contain it, and it spreads.

Yep, thats exactly what i was getting at.

Ive always assumed that's what would happen if they did "legalize" it. Imagine them busting people for growing their own because it's not "processed safely".

Why? Tobacco is perfectly legal to grow on your own for personal consumption, no requirements about how you process it. Personal cannabis growing is perfectly legal in WA and CO. I don't see any indication that regulations on homegrown cannabis are in the cards.

Hmmm that's a good point. I'm not a smoker so I was unaware that people bother to grow/process their own tobacco.

Growing tobacco generally requires a warm, humid climate and good soil, and it can't really be grown indoors effectively (as far as I'm aware), so already it's a more difficult crop to homegrow than cannabis. The process of drying and curing it is also fairly involved. So while people can and do grow tobacco at home, it's not especially common.

If they do legalize it, I still won't trust the motherfuckers as far as I could throw them.

Well no shit, but at least they'll stay the fuck out of my garden, and the general public will have access to an industry that could certainly generate enough funds to make a Political difference.

Politicians backed by industries is a staple of American Politics. The cannabis industry would be no different. That is the REAL power that legalizing cannabis would grant the American public.

Everything the United States does is centric to protecting 'National Security'. A cannabis industry would change the powers that currently have a stranglehold in congress. It's not a guarantee for anyone, that's the only reason it's a threat. Realistically, the corporations that are, will definitely get their hands into this industry and maintain their hold on politics, but there will be room for new corporations to get just as powerful as these old ones (JP Morgan, amongst many other 'securities' or 'funds's groups).

There is going to be a very big power-grab if cannabis is ever legalized . Whoever gets the biggest piece of that pie is going to be commanding some real 'buy me the lower side of manhattan' money.

After they legalize it they will tell you to not worry about the NSA and that pot is making you too paranoid.

LOL, pure gov't gold.

When the gov't acknowledges the conspiracies, They'll tell you pot tends to lead to those types of mind sets. Stay away from the pot if you don't want to go crazy.

What's sad is that I know of many members here who partake and many members here who are really straight edge with substances that all subscribe to the major conspiracies. Still, every single one of us would be considered mentally unstable and possibly dangerous. Look for common psych eval questions that they use at hospital emergency rooms to determine if the patient needs to be sent to a behavioral hospital.

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All of these "hot button" issues that are commonly used as distractions by the MSM could be used like ammunition they can use to stop/slow the awakening. Enough people angry about the rape of the Constitution? Smoke your dope and marry your gays little plebs! Isn't your government great? They give us back some basic human rights they never should have taken to begin with and we trade or fundamental right to privacy? No thank you Uncle Sam.

This is classic Koch Brothers strategy. I almost applied for one of their think tanks, because I was willing to rationalize their anti-working class, anti-environmental agenda on account of them throwing in a little bit of social liberalism.

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MSM doesn't care about ratings. These companies walls are lined with billions.

MSM doesn't care about ratings

On the contrary, that's almost the only thing they care about.

They only care about it in so far as how much they can get while still propagandizing.

No, when they propagandize, they do it because it's profitable. Fox and MSNBC both deliver slanted news and commentary; if their goal were propagandizing then they'd have some sort of similarity of message. But the reality is that they both find it profitable to cater to a niche political audience.

Correction: The federal government will pretend to relax marijuana laws in an attempt to gain public favor. Nothing at all will change in terms of federal prosecution of marijuana related crimes.

Exactly. Too much money is being made off of its illegal status.

And that's why the only way to change the world is to change the flow of money. Always has been, always will be.

I saw this post earlier today and then I was watching the news in a waiting room this morning before an appointment and I saw that holder is speaking today on lowering/at least addressing mandatory minimums... Freaked me out lol

Didn't Glenn Greenwald also say he'd be releasing new big info that Snowden gave him?

**this week

The Government back off on Marijuana because of the NSA outrage ? That I will believe when I see.

First, mandatory minimum sentences for small time pot busts has always been Illogical and absurd. Second, as a result of mandatory minimum sentences the prisons are getting very over crowded. This is a serious financial burden. Third, the MSM is suspect as always. So this sounds like something that was in the works behind the scenes and is just a matter of politically expedient timing, due to its being announced just after the NSA scandal. Also, it sounds like a lot of talk with no actual substance. Also, this would imply that the Government is a lot more worried about the NSA scandal then they let on.

If I were to guess, I would say more content is released when and after official statements about the leak are made, in order to contradict official word and make the White House look foolish.

Yes, I would agree that is a plausible and likely scenario. The White House looks foolish as it is. Greenwald and Snowden are just going to bury the White House. Should be interesting to watch.

Also, this would imply that the Government is a lot more worried about the NSA scandal then they let on.

..They are...

The people they are targeting "Terrorists" already do what needs to be done to make their communications secure.

Now if the general population starts doing this, suddenly they've spent countless billions if not trillions of dollars on programs that generate little to no useful information, and they will have to account for it somehow, maybe not to us, but to those secret courts that approve what-the-fuck-ever they want to approve (see:everything they want/need, apparently).

They are blowing smoke up our asses.

The dam is broke anyway with various states doing their own thing and more to follow. They may as well play it for some advantage is the logic it seems.

Nope. They will generate a new crisis before changing their stance on pot. Too much money to be lost .

I've wondered that if an economic crash is looming for the US, whether farming & taxing weed/hemp would offset the need for us all to work in sweatshops to minimize the effects of our trade imbalance. Should the petrodollar fail, many would accept the gubmit's BS as long as they can still buy bread.

It would be easy as pie to restructure the economy to go without the petrodollar support. Yes, the Treasury is stuffed with petrodollars, but at least a trillion of those go to the Pentagon, in order to maintain the petrodollar system.

We have enough technology to fix the trade imbalance without increasing manufacturing employment significantly. Mass unemployment could be solved with infrastructure and environmental restoration projects.

That's why I'm looking to move out. The US is a ticking time bomb and it's about to blow up fast.

I could see the stance change on medical MJ, but not the recreational drug. Drugs being illegal props up:

• Law enforcement
• The CIA
• The banks
• The gambling industry and Las Vegas
• The prison industry
• Alcohol and Tobacco sales.

And most importantly, drugs fund the organizations that our government uses as excuses to fund our war and intelligence machine: the Taliban, NK, the cartels, and so on.

There is no way in hell our federal government ever willingly reclassifies MJ.

They said the same thing about slavery...

Are you arguing that there is no more slavery and we have become a more moral nation, or that slavery went through the same 'change' and is now only looked at through a different lens but implemented in a fashion that still benefits those in control of worldly affairs?

Slavery propped up the opposition, and not the federal government. That's why the federal government did away with it.

I think the NSA thing is a distraction too

You might be crazy but I'm curious, have an upvote.

From what?

Syria

or syria.

my guess... Benghazi.

TPPA, Syria, Benghazi, Calls for Impeachment... there is a lot out there...

It's the soma angle of the noose that is nearly ready to pull tight.

Soma time.

Ties-in with the 'mexican asylum seekers being allowed to cross the border using code words and phrases' story nicely.

This is where I fall, with the Soma. I want it to go full legal because I think it would wake up a lot of people. A huge shift in consciousness by a lot of people would be good, but I also know that the gov wants to push it as a distraction, which is the way that many people would use it.

Some will be enlightened, the majority ill be lolling at their favorite old movies and zoning out to their music collection and video games.

I could see this as a possibility. The group most outraged by the NSA are the young folks like us on the internet. They would then be targeting the same demographic for distraction.

I believe that's what my prediction was.

Welcome too the wheel of mass distraction

Seems to make sense. Its like we already forgot about snowden. His words had weight to them. While this federal shift on marijuana seems weightless, unhonest.

I want to hope they are being forthright. But i cant bring myself to trust them. Maybe, if they flat out legalize it and regulate it as alcohol is on the federak level, they can regain my trust. But we all know thatll never happen. They are too far up the UNs butt.

I pray thats not really all it would take for you to trust the government again. A scrap of meat to offer society some solace is not the basis of trust

Sorry, i wasnt clear. I meant to say a little trust. They woukd regain a little trust. "Take back a mile, give back an inch."

To regain my complete trust, they would have to give back every damn inch in every mile taken.

The moment colorado and washington legalized, the national decriminalization/legalization was inevitable, regardless of what other factors might be related (ie snowden).

Once tax season rolls around, all the other states will hop on the marijuana boat as it will pull millions or even billions in taxes.

I have however, was listening to C-span this morning on my way to work and there was something said that ive been hearing alot: "people dont trust their government and its at an all time high". My guess is that the government will appear to get better and allow more freedoms (marijuana being a big reference point). this will sort of be the bell they ring to bring all the sheep back into the fenced in area.

I believe, come 2016 we will have a new era. Poison, sprinkled pretty with galore and a misplaced sense of virtue. the beginning of the end imo

A what?

its a MYSTERY!

haha, my bad. dunno why i dropped the last word(s). i finished it

First comment: I don't think random would be the right word for these shifts. If you look at the conversation about marijuana over the past few years considering the documentaries, the people backing it, the obvious facts about it, especially the fact that we've been closing in on half the states being legal medicinal states. Once we got close to this tipping point, it's been a matter of time, and in my opinion, not so random.

Second point: I strongly believe that one of the original reasons for (keeping) weed's illegality was because of the mind opening effect it had on people in regards to the reality around them. For example, the vietnam war, people started realizing they couldn't support it, soldiers were smoking in the fields and second-guessing themselves and what they were doing... "they" don't want people to smoke, because it pacifies you and helps you forget about anger while gaining a clearer picture.

Changing the pot-laws is going to let more people, get easier access, to better perception-enhancing strains. No matter what the outcome, whether this is a deception tactic or not by the NSA, it could have drastic effects on the futures of those who abuse the spying...

An open-minded, united, global people will not tolerate the spying for long.

There's so many right wing potsmokers, though. The only reason pot has historically led people to the left wing is that pot should be legal, and smoking pot helps people understand why.

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I'm uncomfortable with the fact that I agree with both of you equally.

Joke's on them. More people smoking weed means more people getting stoned and questioning the government

Tucker Carlson smoked pot and shit and still became a neoliberal shill.

They had been speculating on this at thedailybell for over a year. There were signs for a while that this was coming. I don't think they are doing it soley in response to NSA pushback, but it does seem to be a part of a deliberate promotion.

The crap about Gupta being sorry and just now realizing the war on marijuana is wrong is total BS.

http://www.thedailybell.com/3740/Have-Elites-Decided-to-Legalize-Some-US-Drugs

Thats what the Federal Gay Rights was for. I'm glad we didn't get too distracted yet.

I think you're very right, my brother. The whole uproar about gay marriage is over, & the Trayvon case. New distraction.

"Also for anyone who hasn't heard yet, Dr Sanjay Gupta apologized for his previous opposition to medical marijuana and will be doing a 1 hour special on it Sunday. He's now saying he believes cannabis can be a superior medicine to pharmaceuticals in many cases. It's supposedly going to give medical marijuana significant mainstream credibility nation wide. "

I would like someone who follow up on this doctor a bit mroe to link me to his views previously. Im sure a good number of redditors used to think Pot was bad and will be able to see if his changes in opinion are simply a small shift, or a blatant reconstruction. Game recognize game, and if he changes his view after a "long talk" or some other BS like that, we can know hes full of shit

i might try and do it myself since no one but you responded.

If what you said truly is the case, and there is no clear showing of his views on marijuana previously; then it will be safe to say he is full of shit but thats just another drop in the bucket.

EDIT::

Quick search led me to this

still nothing solid, but im calling bullshit

"He says that before he started the project, he was ‘unimpressed’ by the scientific literature on medical marijuana."

and

"Dr Gupta says he believes that he had not previously considered all of the arguments and that, now that he has, he has changed him mind on the topic."

Who the fuck reads medical data, is then "unimpressed" but then "considers" an argument or two and suddenly does a full 180? Hes been looking into this stuff for years, according to him. Marijuana may be a complex topic in a political sense, but its not deep. One can cover all the points fairly quickly. for him to suddenly hear an argument hes never heard before and change ALL his views on it? ridicules.

Considering how i read Holder made a statement...all part of the plan. Its time to give america another dose of pills. We just got gay rights, but were an antsy bunch so we get weed. anymore and we get a night stick

But what about all the money generated from making it illegal? Who will they send to prison for non violent crimes?

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Guess America's teen aged wiggers better step their game up!

But....this documentary was filmed and scheduled before the NSA leak......this one is a little out there

My immediate thought when I saw the Eric Holder article was that they were going to try and make a ton of room to accommodate the tons of prisoners they're preparing to round up. Free the old people, low level guys... keep the lower level folks from getting arrested for a while as the DEA (having been in cahoots with NSA) rounds up dealers and suppliers from around the country. Possibly to pick up the scores of hackers they're finding. Probably far more than anyone cares to admit.
Then the policy change, which is all this amouts to, can just shift back after "reports" of drug related issues of one kind or another surface.

right...they were goign to try and spin the whole "white-blue eyed- al-qaeda" crap for a while...now they can accuse us of being drug gangs members. We might even look just like those brothers that grow pot in Colorado.

Dude..this has been a long time coming.. The NSA thing is new. The drug policy change was already in the works before Snowden released information

Another thing to keep in mind is the number of states in the last year who have become Medical Marijuana states. A record number. Over half the states now have some sort of medical marijuana laws, and in most states it is also decriminalized.

It's unfortunate that our government isn't going to completely legalize it yet. It should really do away with the corn subsidies and grow hemp. There are so many new industries that could crop up. Not to mention the tax dollars. Significant steps, regardless, I suppose.

That said, this is a good thing and we should treat it like a victory. Because it is. Many grassroots organizations and individuals have fought for drug policy reform for many years. So, hooray!

Just keep the NSA thing in your mind. It's not like it's going away. Snowden and Greenwald have more up their sleeve.

Now here is the racist post: Black president, black-ish Attorney General...

Marijuana...

Common people...

http://www.reddit.com/r/conspiracy/comments/1k7mhj/the_bottom_of_the_rabbit_hole_reading_all_of_this/

If I were to guess, I would say more content is released when and after official statements about the leak are made, in order to contradict official word and make the White House look foolish.

Yes, I would agree that is a plausible and likely scenario. The White House looks foolish as it is. Greenwald and Snowden are just going to bury the White House. Should be interesting to watch.

From what?

You might be crazy but I'm curious, have an upvote.

Are you arguing that there is no more slavery and we have become a more moral nation, or that slavery went through the same 'change' and is now only looked at through a different lens but implemented in a fashion that still benefits those in control of worldly affairs?

Slavery propped up the opposition, and not the federal government. That's why the federal government did away with it.