I think the exposure to many topics would be great, but yes the community would water down and completely nullify any logical points and relevant info brought forward. purity is good. Quantity never trumps quality.

Of course since more people would notice this sub, you have to take in account that there will be a lot more shills, trolls and misinformed people.

It's already hard as it is to have mindful discussions about events. We don't need an even larger group of disinformants.

That's exactly what I'm saying. People come to this sub for one of two reasons: they've made the choice to wake themselves the fuck up, or they want to ridicule it. I find the former to far outnumber the latter. The latter show up, quip some nasty little comments about tinfoil and are promptly run out of here when they can't back up their own bullshit with anything more than calling everyone in this sub and all material presented in it 'crazy'.

No because the mind-set of a conspiracist is a very small section of society. If you step out of this sub you will see most of the things people purport to believe over here (Sept 11th False Flag, Chem trails, Aurora false flag etc) are not accepted and often ridiculed by the larger community.

This sub can only survive if it keeps it’s dedicated community of believers. Once it is exposed to the wider world it will be full of people ‘shilling’ or rather not believing conspiracy theories.

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Although I wholeheartedly agree with the sentiment of your comment, we should refrain from the sullied neologism "chemtrails", swapping it for persistent contrails or aerosol geoengineering medium.

-7 votes and counting, for someone who doesn't believe in conspiracy theories you sure do spend a lot of time in the conspiracy subreddit.

Keep this sub the fuck away from this shit hole sites default subs. The bury brigades and shilling/trolling are bad enough now as they are without that type of influx.

I absolutely agree with your sentiment. I don't think this sub should be default either.

I have often wondered however, if we did have the full brunt of reddit's commenters on us, whether it would change things. Would we be able to argue away the majority of the shill comments? Would we be able to change people's minds?

I would absolutely love it if the shills ran out of intelligent arguments.

(of course the flip side of this is that their arguments would become more sophisticated, which in some senses we see happening already.)

Edit; there, their

If this were a default sub, it'd get so slided

Even more slided than it is now.

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To the contrary, making this sub a default would destroy it.

If this sub becomes a default, I hope you enjoy le may-mays and DAE posts galore.

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Kind of human nature. Reddit is designed to cater to people who are not really into information. The whole site is basically a rip off of 4chan memes but without the depth of a culture lending to subtlety in jokes or walls of text that really make you think.

The formatting of the posts itself does not lend itself to long form discussion, with each successive post getting indented and 7-8 deep requiring you link to a new page. Besides that, it was well known before reddit that online voting systems don't accomplish much other than censorship. All content centered forms operate by posts "bumping" a thread rather than voting.

It's worth posting here because of the size of the user base, but the site is specifically designed as the gathering place of the low end of the spectrum.

More attention = more trouble = tighter moderation = another neutered subreddit. Maybe that would fit with their agenda, if there is one.

I think I'd rather just operate in relative obscurity and let topics that resonate more widely naturally rise to the front page on their own.

I don't think that it should be default. I would like to think that this sub attracts a certain kind of person who is looking for the truth about the world around them. The community here is really quite nice in comparison with other subs.

I find the nicest subs to be linux related and conspiracy.

if it gets watered down, another subreddit will simply take over the original members - lets call it 'real conspiracy'.. the upside to this being conspiracy looses it's 'nut-job'-affiliation and gets an alternative socially accepted place amongst new-commers, that can then be enticed to go to this new 'real conspiracy' subreddit. maybe this would also further waterdown the negative perception of the word conspiracy..

Absolutely not. It will flood this subreddit with idiots who think the moon is made out of cheese and don't know which planet they are on literally.

Google people don't know which planet they are on and you should get the video and poll. People literally don't know.

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I would never want that to happen at all. It would turn to such shit while thousands of arrogant-whilst-utterly-uninformed morons completely undo years of progress via sophistry and fallacies.

They will find the subreddit if they wish.

It's one of the only places you can hear the real news about 9/11 without disinfo accounts attacking you. On that grounds alone, YES.

Yeah. And the nature of the material means critical 9/11 research has to be lumped in with silly UFO shit here. But at least it gets a wider audience. It's sad the media has been neutered so utterly; the conversation should be as wide and public as the 60s peace movement, and not reduced to an internet forum.

I'd need a lot more evidence for UFO's than what I've seen, but as for a coming change, I'm hoping so too. Right now it seems like a race between information revealing our recent history and information suppression and more false flags. Precisely why r/conspiracy matters. We can't break their narrative without publicly revisiting 9/11 and purging the entire Nazi school of Leo Strauss from our government. Be safe, Edward Snowden, whoever you are.

It is too weird a subject to be a default. Conspiracy is a fringe branch of history or an attitude about the world.

Definitely no. This section should be a choice to look at. Or else there will be a ton of 12-14 year olds coming to reddit and just trolling this page hard.

Here is what this sub would turn into were that to happen:

/r/conspiratard

It would be filled with so many trolls that nothing of substance would be visible. You can downvote all you want, but the trolls would keep coming.

The best thing is to introduce people in your life that you have confidence in to this subreddit.

We would require several additional tuned in moderators to handle the flow, but I think we should use the power of Reddit while this site remains relevant.

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yet here you are LOL