Much worse than the silly posts is censorship. I have the ability to skip over the posts I am not interested in. Try it sometime. It's really not that difficult.

How about you start a new subreddit: r/conspiracythewayNoc3wantsit

Please take your censorship to a subreddit where all highbrow control freaks can gather in your vision of a perfect subreddit.

If you're subbed to /r/conspiracy and you're only reading the front page, you're doing it wrong.

It is the duty of every subscriber to police New at all times.

Funny how "activist" subreddits (what few there are) like conspiracy and hailcorporate get labeled as "losing credibility."

There's nothing lower, with less credibility, more pathetic than a shill. Somebody that would betray their neighbor and country to protect Obama, GMOs, BP, nuclear waste producers, etc. Shills are the bloody shit that rolls off the backside of the human race. But yes, they smell bad and are noticeable.

When somebody says that censorship is not as bad as "losing face"... it sounds a lot like the shill mods (/r/politics, /r/news, /r/worldnews) that tell us they are "cleaning things up" for our own good.

I agree, op starts out by saying that censorship isn't nearly as bad as this other thing, so therefore we must censor that other thing.

Wish I could give you more upvotes.

Why do we need to unite behind certain reliable and good issues, and who decides what those are? I come here to see new ideas, not to "stand united" behind a ones we all already know about. I'm here to get informed and interested, not to form a coalition in order to convince other redittors to join my sub-forum.

Because a lot of people are afraid, so they find comfort in bringing others into a perspective of fear to make their own fear seem more manageable.

Nothing is "destroying" /r/conspiracy. It is alive and well and still constantly growing at a decent rate... in spite of people coming here and saying "ooooh, bad subreddit".

People have been coming here for 5 years saying the same things. In fact, you're the second one today. The simple fact that you use the term "conspiratard" to describe the people here gives us a good indication of where you're coming from so I'm just going to answer you with a link to a response I made in that other thread.

Yesterdays' 'fear porn' is tomorrows unsurprising facts. I want you to remember that.

A good example since you cited my Syria false flag post which probably helped contribute to the war narrative of the establishment eroding from underneath them. 'Fear porn' sites like Infowars were reporting on the false flag nature of the conflict in Syria over a year and a half ago, they were one of the only outlets covering it.

Infowars is a huge purveyor of fear porn, perhaps the most prolific. Jones himself is controlled opposition, a demonstrably compromised asset of the State.

I suppose it's no coincidence that /u/OWNtheNWO is one of the most prolific posters of Infowars content on this sub, and in fact created and pushes his own sub where I suspect there's even more Infowars content on tap.

TMYK.

And if there was legitimate information coming through the wire from one of the crazy sites?

You'd risk losing good intel on the chance that you might have to read one of Alex Jones's crazier stories.

In a sub like this, geared towards questioning the lies we're told, where exactly can we accquire information if not from the other side of the media?

We can't trust any of ht MSM, they're all suspect and might as well be a loudspeaker for the government. Shouldn't trust most of the prepers either, they're out to make a profit off of people's fears.

However, you should be looking at everything. See what they say, what they don't say. Take notes, compare your notes. If anything, this sub should accept any and all sources, there are enough brains heres to vet every source as much as possible.

There are multiple sides in the war for our minds and it is up to us to discern which are good and bad and everything in between.

And as a parting note, let them call it a joke. Seriously. It's better if they do. Hopefully, they'll all continue to see truthseekers as nothing more than neckbearded, basement dwelling nerds. Because if they actually thought any of us were a threat...we'll i doubt we'd be reading, posting and thinking any more.

The world is seemingly going to hell in a handbasket and I want to know why, who, how and what can be done to stop it. Those ends are not served but cutting ourselves off from potential sources of info.

I upvoted you for trying to make the subreddit better and for being vigilant about what is posted. At the same time, anyone can post whatever they want. Downvote and ignore what you feel is alarmist or low quality.

This is the only tenable course of action regarding alternative media. Reddit has been pushing lately to narrow it's acceptable source material. While I understand the motives (trust me, I do) it's a very easy way to kill any open discussion of events regardless of where it leads.

Perhaps the most important thing to remember about participating in this sub is that you are no less intelligent of a person for being able to entertain an idea without first accepting it as factual or true.

Perhaps the most important thing to remember about participating in this sub is that you are no less intelligent of a person for being able to entertain an idea without first accepting it as factual or true.

Great point.

Ding ding ding, this place is slowly being overtaken by the same idiocy as godlikeproductions and all the rest of the conspiracy sites. I've been watching the steady decline in this sub for the past several months. It's becoming utter trash of late, and I agree with you entirely. I'm not one for censorship, but it doesn't matter either way. That's how these organizations subvert communities like this, they blast them with idiotic rhetoric in an effort to make those of us real users as you said who uncover real facts, look like fearmongering morons.

We'll see more and more "predictions" and "My friend works in the military and said theres lots of talk about x situation" and "This comet is going to end all our lives" and all the rest of these unverifiable, idiotic claims flood in here over the next few months too.

/r/conspiracy was onto something, we became a threat, we called out too many people and too many examples of censorship on this very site. We were getting too much attention and gaining traction, and now we are being bombarded with disinfo. Anyone who thinks otherwise should go take a look at www.godlikeproductions.com for a glimpse into the future of this sub, mark my words.

Hell, one of these people calling (again) for mass defection from this sub pointedly said that we should go over to GLP and ATS.

Because they really think we're that stupid and uninformed.

Exactly. It's well obvious what's going on here.

I'm personally about done with all of it. I'm quite literally saving up money to buy land, start a sustainable homestead with likeminded people, and be the change I want to see in the world. I'm done living in fear and spending my energy on all this shit as I have for so many years, there is clearly no winning struggling against it. The time is now for us who want to see a change in the world, to START MAKING THOSE CHANGES OURSELVES, instead of pointing fingers and pricking the evil giants with a toothpick.

It's the perfect system for them really. They just pose as being in the same group of like minds we HAD here until recently. If anyone says "This is fucking unverifiable bullshit" to these crap links and stories, the shills call THEM shills, and get more shills to agree. It's simple and effective for them to do this and it happens everywhere. Classic subversion tactics.

not all who enter the octagon are aware of what they engaging in...to negotiate the perils of shills, agents and bore worms is standard procedure for some, for others, they're just chatting with some guy in Peoria...One mans entertainment may be another's education, one mans education may be a quest to save the world...there are very few rules of engagement, primarily only one must be understood, that is, nothing is what it seems, it is the one constant. People come here, they watch tv, unaware of the evil of controlled opposition all around them, washed out, spun and cleansed, fully taken to the cleaners permanently pressed into a box of mental manipulations. Only true psychic warriors negotiate, with trepidation, the illusions of evil laid before all like a trap in a muddy bog on a cloudy night.

I agree with you, there are too many articles from sources at the extreme end of the spectrum where they are forcing their own agenda upon you and citing equally poor sources but the people of the subreddit have a right to vote for what they like/dislike and that's the way it should stay.

However, the major problem is still censorship; content shouldn't be removed just because it is challenging. There aren't many rules about the content that gets submitted here due to the very nature of the sub "conspiracy".

Yeah well you also forgot his profile picture was Darth Maul. That's like, the second coolest Darth

Isn't the point of the voting system to weed that out? We are talking about censorship here.