This is what I disagree with. I do not believe most of us have been tricked. I believe there is intentional disruption to make it appear as such. All it takes is shills or trolls to give such an appearance.
If you regard this community to highly why would you think it's so naive?
Not to be off topic, but couldn't you have started such a conversation in a less deriding manner, and one more open to discussion? Sorry if that's wrong in anyway.
So you would agree that humans are releasing so much carbon in the atmosphere that it is having an impact on the greenhouse effect of the earth, leading to climate change?
I would say that somewhere between Al Gore pushing fear on the masses in order to sell his carbon credits, (which basically allow large companies to pay to pollute) and people who say it doesn't exist, somewhere in there is the truth.
I used words like a "staggering" number of people here and "most of you". Depending on the post you click on, sometimes the bottom 3/4 of the comments are jokes about Al Gore and how we should run away from global warming...
The BS associated with manmade climate issues runs along both sides of the fence, the very folks who call for radical lifestyle changes are actively engaging in the very behaviors they are wanting to eliminate. That alone makes the argument specious. Plane travel, especially with huge entourages, vast amounts of equipment and security are not conducive to repairing the atmosphere if it is indeed broken. What seems to be most broken is the integrity of the politicians and funded science studies that produce predetermined answers depending on sponsors wish's. No one that has spent any time reading the huge amounts of information on climate change can be considered intellectually honest if they have arrived at the conclusion that current climate issues are or are not definable as cyclic or anthropogenic or both or for that matter is or is not correctable by our actions. One thing is sure, it was 10 degrees this morning and I haven't seen that in the third week of March for most of 35 year. Leave the name calling over where you are.
So you don't believe that humans are releasing so much carbon in the atmosphere that it is having an impact on the greenhouse effect of the earth, leading to climate change? Really?
It's just the best science being done right now, no big deal!
Shriek as loud as you want, reality is disproving the AGW hypothesis. Every failed prediction by the warmists disproves it. Every year that goes by without an increase in temperature disproves it. You are on the losing side, because you are WRONG. Get used to it.
Please refrain from making accusations of racism, as it is a violation of Rule 1. Consider this a fair warning.
If you see an example of racism here I would encourage you to report it. This sub does not tolerate racism. Any posts I see containing racism will be removed by me personally and will likely result in a ban.
Please refrain from making accusations of racism, as it is a violation of Rule 1. Consider this a fair warning.
If you see an example of racism here I would encourage you to report it. This sub does not tolerate racism. Any posts I see containing racism will be removed by me personally and will likely result in a ban.
We can't do anything about the Koch funded voting cabals. But it's not just on this sub. I posted an article about the Permian Extinction which was caused in part by global warming, posted it on /r/science and they rushed to down vote it there. The koches have their billions and Reddit allows them to operate on Reddit. There's nothing we can do.
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9 oblivioustoobvious 2014-03-24
You're addressing the subreddit as a community but fail to take into account that many users do see this. I don't enjoy the generalization.
2 [deleted] 2014-03-24
I agree completely.
-4 MarkBC 2014-03-24
I didn't say the entire community were climate change deniers or pollution appologists... I said a "staggering" number of people on her are.
0 oblivioustoobvious 2014-03-24
This is what I disagree with. I do not believe most of us have been tricked. I believe there is intentional disruption to make it appear as such. All it takes is shills or trolls to give such an appearance.
If you regard this community to highly why would you think it's so naive?
5 BAckwaterRifle 2014-03-24
Not to be off topic, but couldn't you have started such a conversation in a less deriding manner, and one more open to discussion? Sorry if that's wrong in anyway.
1 s70n3834r 2014-03-24
You seem like a denier of some kind; couldn't you have phrased your post in a manner more supportive of OPs views on climate change?
1 BAckwaterRifle 2014-03-24
probably, your point?
1 s70n3834r 2014-03-24
Sarcasm.
1 BAckwaterRifle 2014-03-24
You can't do sarcasm with text, its god damn ineffective. Sorry I suck, and now I get your point sorta.
5 yellowsnow2 2014-03-24
We must censor their views for not aligning with my mainstream views.. on a conspiracy sub .........lol
4 Kuleaid 2014-03-24
I'm against Al Gore and his cabal making billions off of the carbon credit scheme. Are you lumping people like me into your generalizations?
-3 MarkBC 2014-03-24
So you would agree that humans are releasing so much carbon in the atmosphere that it is having an impact on the greenhouse effect of the earth, leading to climate change?
2 Kuleaid 2014-03-24
I would say that somewhere between Al Gore pushing fear on the masses in order to sell his carbon credits, (which basically allow large companies to pay to pollute) and people who say it doesn't exist, somewhere in there is the truth.
3 GNUgamer 2014-03-24
I'm a liberal that believes in climate change and enjoys this subreddit, I guess I don't fit your stereotype.
-2 MarkBC 2014-03-24
I used words like a "staggering" number of people here and "most of you". Depending on the post you click on, sometimes the bottom 3/4 of the comments are jokes about Al Gore and how we should run away from global warming...
3 tossertwenty 2014-03-24
The BS associated with manmade climate issues runs along both sides of the fence, the very folks who call for radical lifestyle changes are actively engaging in the very behaviors they are wanting to eliminate. That alone makes the argument specious. Plane travel, especially with huge entourages, vast amounts of equipment and security are not conducive to repairing the atmosphere if it is indeed broken. What seems to be most broken is the integrity of the politicians and funded science studies that produce predetermined answers depending on sponsors wish's. No one that has spent any time reading the huge amounts of information on climate change can be considered intellectually honest if they have arrived at the conclusion that current climate issues are or are not definable as cyclic or anthropogenic or both or for that matter is or is not correctable by our actions. One thing is sure, it was 10 degrees this morning and I haven't seen that in the third week of March for most of 35 year. Leave the name calling over where you are.
3 NameTaken410 2014-03-24
Climate change is a hoax. Global warming has been happening since the end of the last ice age.....
-1 MarkBC 2014-03-24
So you don't believe that humans are releasing so much carbon in the atmosphere that it is having an impact on the greenhouse effect of the earth, leading to climate change? Really?
It's just the best science being done right now, no big deal!
1 NameTaken410 2014-03-24
*fixed
3 streetyouth 2014-03-24
Thanks for marginalizing the sub reddit
2 archonemis 2014-03-24
"Denier."
Not a loaded term at all.
2 Mrg13 2014-03-24
You do realize you can not generalize 200,000k worth of subs as one.
Look at the vote count on the front page.
usually around 1,000-2,000+...Not 200,000k
People post things, it makes the front page...not all of us believe it.
2 [deleted] 2014-03-24
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0 MarkBC 2014-03-24
Lol, really? This isn't a political thing, it's a science thing. Conservative republicans have some how turned this issue into a political issue.
1 quantumcipher 2014-03-24
Your post was inappropriate. Please refrain from attacking the sub and/or its users. You have been warned.
1 4to3 2014-03-24
Shriek as loud as you want, reality is disproving the AGW hypothesis. Every failed prediction by the warmists disproves it. Every year that goes by without an increase in temperature disproves it. You are on the losing side, because you are WRONG. Get used to it.
0 [deleted] 2014-03-24
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2 quantumcipher 2014-03-24
Please refrain from making accusations of racism, as it is a violation of Rule 1. Consider this a fair warning.
If you see an example of racism here I would encourage you to report it. This sub does not tolerate racism. Any posts I see containing racism will be removed by me personally and will likely result in a ban.
0 quarkle 2014-03-24
Hi /u/quantumcipher, I know what I said was kind of rude, but can you explain how it's an accusation of racism?
2 quantumcipher 2014-03-24
Could be considered either a) an accusation of racism, or b) a personal attack.
Either way, it was removed. You are not banned, nor would you be over such a remark.
What I find more concerning is this:
-1 youareahomo 2014-03-24
What's wrong with that sub?
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3 youareahomo 2014-03-24
Like I originally said, this is not the place for such talk. I could debate you on this but this sub is not the place.
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1 quantumcipher 2014-03-24
Please refrain from making accusations of racism, as it is a violation of Rule 1. Consider this a fair warning.
If you see an example of racism here I would encourage you to report it. This sub does not tolerate racism. Any posts I see containing racism will be removed by me personally and will likely result in a ban.
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0 alllie 2014-03-24
We can't do anything about the Koch funded voting cabals. But it's not just on this sub. I posted an article about the Permian Extinction which was caused in part by global warming, posted it on /r/science and they rushed to down vote it there. The koches have their billions and Reddit allows them to operate on Reddit. There's nothing we can do.
http://www.reddit.com/r/science/comments/20wim8/extreme_global_warming_may_have_caused_largest/
-3 The-last-upvote 2014-03-24
We've known Al Gore's been in bed with the scissor lift people for years.
-1 TheHighestEagle 2014-03-24
Scissor me timbers!