Source, re-source, find and use original sources, a lot of misinformation is from false and sometimes wildly twisted quotes and manipulated numbers.

I recently saw a paraphrased quote on Washington Post, in quotes, as if it were a real quote.

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this is known as "herd mentality", if I recall. It happens in any community, so yes, all subreddits, all, get "circlejerky". That's just human nature.

Just like there are "groups" on reddit that instant downvote anything that even mentions "x" and instant upvote anything that mentions "y"

It this free-thinking? No

Is it smart? As to say, taking one's own time to become educated on something? No

No, sadly most ppl will take what they are fed by the herd and follow it straight off the cliff.

Mock that, oppose that, do anything but jump, and yes, prepare for downvotes.

Fortunately, I don't believe my "karma" is always the quality of my content (though some of my lamer ducks got what they deserved.), and neither should anyone else who truely wishes to express their God given right to speak thier mind on an issue.

Just remember to keep that mind open, cause someone might know something you don't.

That's the rule I apply to myself, anyways ^{.^}

Thankfully there is a sub for everyone. Start a new sub called /r/100%provenconspiracieswithsources. Problem solved.

Dont use a %, bad things will happen.

I don't think this is so much a matter of there being "shills".

There are people that come here and argue against, for example, 9/11 being an inside job, or the Aurora theater shooting having more than one shooter, or the Boston Marathon bombing being just a bunch of crisis actors, or the Sandy Hook massacre being a staged event, or pharmaceutical companies otherwise ordinarily engaged in trying to bankrupt one another are in reality secretly colluding to prevent the cheap and easy cure for cancer leaking out, or the oil companies who work hard to make sure that tesla generators don't become household items, or the WHO poisoning people systematically through vaccines with chemicals that will be activated by chemtrails to cause autism, or hundreds and thousands of soldiers with families at home who gladly participate in anti-American operations ranging from highjacking foreign or domestic airplanes and killing all the people on board so that the powers that be will have a vehicle to fly their stolen nuke into New York City creating the impetus for a war with Russia, or the bankers who enter into suicide pacts to protect some pedophile pipelines, or the central banks who have overseen a century of the greatest progress in human history actually being owned by one family who is hell bent on making you sick, fat, broke, brainwashed, uneducated, imprisoned, and impotent.

I think there's a reasonable chance that these people aren't shills, and that they just think that the above opinions are wrong, and that the people who believe that are gullible.

I mostly agree with you, but there are exceptions: mainly those who only post on /r/conspiracy (obviously they have a specific account to troll/shill), most posts/comments are solely "NWO, Illuminati, Lizard People" without (unlike you) posting a >100 word post with your opinion and insights.

Everyone has the right to their opinion, but unfortunately there are many abusing credulity of those here, for either the "lols" or with some other agenda in mind

Redditor for 2 days with neg karma, lol.

Well spoken.

I think there's a reasonable chance that these people aren't shills, and that they just think that the above opinions are wrong, and that the people who believe that are gullible.

I think you may be right, but you forgot that they are assholes about it. They can circlejerk in their own sub

And that's why many of them feel compelled to ridicule and call them names. They look out, see gullibility and attack it because they hate their own niavity. Some people are interested in alternative ideas and some are interested in understanding how what they've been told is true. Some actively attack alternative ideas. People who aggressively attempt to dominate people and their ideas are disturbing because they are disturbed.

And that's why many of them feel compelled to ridicule and call them names.They look out, see gullibility and attack it because they hate their own niavity

That's a great strawman. Do you think people here don't do it every bit as often?

That's a great strawman.

It's not a strawman at all. I don't think you understand what that actually means. I wasn't talking to you. But your defensiveness against the comment says a lot.

Do you think people here don't do it every bit as often?

No i don't because that's completely illogical considering the context. We are IN a conspiracy sub. An alternative information sub.

One group attacks alternative information because of the naiveté they recognize in themselves. They want to make what they've already accepted as true, true.

The other group actively seeks alternative information because they recognize naiveté in themselves. They want to confirm what they've previously accepted as true is actually true.

Conspiracy theories often come after an event has been presented by the mainstream. Not before.

All good points. Points 1, 2 and 3 are especially important.

Its also important to be able to sense when someone or something on TV or other media is lying to you. Learn to watch the face and eye movements. They practice and with lying there will be signs to watch out for.

Pamela Meyer: How to spot a liar

http://www.ted.com/talks/pamela_meyer_how_to_spot_a_liar

Same thing with Facebook too. So much trolling and disinformation people fucked up the truthers agenda.

Question everything and be prepared to change ideas based on new information.

Things are going from bad to worse here, I'm about ready to jump ship.

I'd rather see the mods shut this subreddit down than allow it to become 90% disinformation.

What do people think about turning this into an "approved submitter" subreddit? I'm just brainstorming.

I also liked the idea someone posted that you have to comment in order to vote on a story. I don't know if reddit's mod system can do that.

Participation is down here, probably because people are paranoid or just smart enough to start talking about this stuff secretly, not online. Shill activity is rising, it could get to a point where this subreddit is doing more harm than good, despite the mod's best efforts /r/conspiracy becomes a parody of itself.

Well spoken.