oh yes MK ultra, wiping the minds of people with the help of LSD-25, trust me i know a lot but not everything, i was asking like how they set our own people against each other, there is just so much to say about it that i don't know where to start.

but you know, i want to hear every ones opinion not read up on it

wow thank you so much for the link, i got to reading about all the other MK's, but ill have to read it all later so i have it saved

oh wow, thanks :), its basically the study of what we've been talking about, i'll be sure to look into it more.

as a person who has used LSD to try and learn a little bit about the human subconscious, its pretty sick in my opinion.

oh yes its a wonderful thing if used in the right conditions, like going to the lake with some good friends, and i mean GOOD friends, the slightest word can fuck with you in a good or bad way depending the circumstances . Your innerself speaks to you in ways people can't imagine your subconscious can talk to you through your friends bodies which can really make you rethink your entire life, i could go on but there's so much to an LSD trip that you'd have to take it yourself to understand lol.

"what the fuck happened to the entire world" FTFY

really now? all the hate? i couldn't give less about spelling, they're just words man, all i asked was a simple question

shoo oppressionist don't bother me either

by an idea

nah i mean oppresive behavior

who cares? words can be made up, how do you think the english language was created?

idk about me, im not the one tripping out calling people unintellectual because i asked a question

alright lol if i must, besides that conundrum, what are your thoughts on the subject?

i like the way you think, it doesn't have to be so violent, what if the whole world or even half the U.S. spoke out against them? They can't get us all, all we can do is have a voice, we alone can make a difference like you said not everyone is so easily controlled but that sure as hell wont stop the "business" of america from trying to stop us cause they don't want to lose what they've accomplished.

ah yes the cut off the food tactic, then they put up all this starving people in other countries donate money, when its really for them in my opinion, when in fact they could end it all with just the snap of a finger. If I were to suggest a movie to watch for everyone in this comment selection it would have to be Killing Them Softly look it up.

i agree, when i have a child, actually before i get into that, i almost don't want to have a child because of fear of what they'll go through in this day of age, but i need to remember to be vigilant, for when i have a child i will prepare them for the path ahead not tell them what path they have to choose, i also understand about the TV, i was merely suggesting this movie because it tells of how the united states isn't the united states anymore its just a business, and the movie is all about psychological game play against one another.

oh boy i hope they don't do that lol, but i do feel confident that i can raise a good child, give them a more peaceful house life then my parents did, and not all this yelling 24/7.

i see you are lol, and my parents are kind of the same way, they really wanted me to go to the military, but it was against all who i was so i saved up money to go to college to become what i've always wanted to be, which is a mechanic/customs auto shop, i could never go into the military because well i don't really know how to explain this, i don't like killing, and i don't like the way they teach our military from what i've heard they break you down and build you into the soldier that they want, but i also get that they don't completely get rid of you, there will always be apart of you left, i don't know i didn't go into it so i can't say what i'm saying is true. My parents always tried telling me that they're always right, well at least my mother did, my father is kind of a wuss when it comes to having his own opinions because if he did it would end up in a huge argument that i sure knew i didn't want to hear.

sounds like you've had a full life :), haha the old i can hear the problems with cars i have that same ability, and about the boss lying thing its really the reason i want to become my own boss and start a customs shop/ arcade/chillspot, well because i know it would be good business for the area and sometimes you can't rely on anyone but yourself, especially when it comes to income, but only because income has been what this society has kind of been based on and who else better than yourself for to make up your own life right?

yeah the illusion of income lol thats what i meant, sometimes i have a hard time expressing myself.

I'm so glad that all these comments haven't been bad and we've been communicating, unlike the first few comments, i can't explain how glad it makes me to know and experience that there are in fact really good people out there. It takes me away from all the negativity.

yeah i just wanted to know what peoples opinion were on this subject because i think its an important matter, when most people think problems are physical per say, its really hard for most people to see whats really going on, because most are only looking at the small picture and not the whole thing or the big picture.

yeah and like my dad who is an airplane engineer for lockheed, he isn't really good at much else but the way mechanical objects work or creating things, not saying he's a bad man, just saying i wish he got to know me better and not just conform to what my mother told him about me, who is forming dementia.

well i'm from Texas i don't know which coast it is to be honest cause we're kind of in the bottom middle lol

I'm originally from Texas, moved from Fort Worth to Waco, then moved to Georgia, Maryland, then all the way back to Texas to right down the street from the hospital from where i was born at, which is in Fort Worth.

Isn't it funny? The psychology of humans? The way they've learned to manipulate people to do things without a struggle? But there's also a way for people to be as free as they want, that's why they put down laws or "rules" when in fact reality, nature has no rules ever go to was and people saying you have to wait a certain amount of time before one shoots the other? Hell no

What people don't understand is that we shouldn't be fighting each other its as simple as that, its not about women's equality, gay rights, race rights, its about the rights of people in general, the right to have our own personal freedom.

Yeah psychology can get kind of confusing sometimes, makes you feel like you're crazy sometimes.

You sound like you have a great kid, and yeah one of my biggest pet peeves would have to be the school system also, especially from my experience, the idea for paying for knowledge when its everywhere, even in the air, its a ridiculous idea really in my opinion, think about it how did people learn from back in the stone ages? They learned through experience or with help with someone, not oh to learn this you need this many stones to trade for this knowledge.

I feel you, i'd be the same way, but i hope my kid doesn't have ADHD because going through school made that difficult very difficult, because what society has made it, but my child will have to find out, because i have ADHD and they will more than likely get it from me, its a blessing and a curse at the same time depends on how you look at it.

Speaking of ADHD, i'll never put my kid on that ADHD medication, my parents tried to force it on me and it wasn't too enjoyable, wasnt able to really think, more zombie like than anything, its just not something i want to give my kids, especially its basically perscribed amphetamine, or type of speed depending on which one you take, and i don't want my kid perscribed amphetamine.

worst part about it was that the meds took away my free thinking, almost as if it was intentional

Well yeah why shut it down if its only helping you gain more power right? Why would they give a shit? The symbolism of power can consume a person

They say freedom of choice is an illusion right? but only to some extent, they dont live by the "laws" they put down for the people of the nation therefore they have no limitations, but since there have been "mental walls" put up as i'll put it, people beleive that they cannot

When in fact the true reality of it is that almost anything the human brain can think of can become true if it isnt already

yeah i feel you man, i can hardly watch tv anymore unless its cartoons, cause everything else kind of makes me want to puke. but don't get me wrong i still love lots of things despite all the hate and lies going around can't get too discouraged in this day of time.

yes i love to listen to trance, its my favorite genere, i talk to my freinds experience life for what it is i can be in the room with my 2 other friends and not even talk and we just feel the good vibes of each other, we're so well connected to each other that sometimes words aren't even needed, which reminds me i took LSD with my friend and had another friend in the room who didnt take it, well the whole thing i thought me and my friend were talking, but according to my friend not tripping we were sitting there not moving our mouths, but we heard a conversation going on between the both of us even after the affects wore off, to my knowledge i can only assume that we somehow telepathically talked to eachother

oh yes, me and my friends quickly found out that they are not to be done day after day after day, in fact we haven't done any in about a year lol, and yes i understand completely.

and my favorite who used to be a trace artist would be DJ Cotts: lost in the mix

oh yes its a wonderful thing if used in the right conditions, like going to the lake with some good friends, and i mean GOOD friends, the slightest word can fuck with you in a good or bad way depending the circumstances . Your innerself speaks to you in ways people can't imagine your subconscious can talk to you through your friends bodies which can really make you rethink your entire life, i could go on but there's so much to an LSD trip that you'd have to take it yourself to understand lol.