ISIS beheadings are false flag attacks.
110 2014-09-14 by The_Opera_Guy
Let's be rational about this.
The latest beheading was justified by the ISIS as payback to England
for colluding with the USA to destroy ISIS.
Seriously, what's the logic behind it? "I'm going to kill a white dude to further
incite other white dudes to come here and kill me."
Even for a radical muslim, that makes absolutely no sense at all,
if the goal is to PREVENT western nations from attacking.
It seems, as if ISIS wants the west to invade (again) and wage war on their soil.
Well, why would ISIS want that? It is not beneficial for muslim locale,
however it is very beneficial to western oil corporations.
So, the members of ISIS are actually western agents, posing as radical muslims,
to give western countries a pretext to invade and wage war in the Middle-East.
Therefore, we should ignore all beheadings by ISIS and let them go,
to prevent us from playing ourselves straight into the hands of the oil corporations.
53 comments
38 SleazySnake 2014-09-14
Whats one person or three people being beheaded when compared to the thousands and thousands of Palestinians that have been murdered this year alone?
15 The_Opera_Guy 2014-09-14
Depends how the governments want their people to perceive the events as. A murder of a single man unleashed the World War 1.
7 spasticbadger 2014-09-14
And how the MSM reports it.
8 sudo-tleilaxu 2014-09-14
No one in the MSM even questioned the authenticity of the beheadings. No one in the MSM dared say they look fake as hell and why they cut away from the act itself if the goal was to shock people into rage and vengeance. Having them look too slick and over produced made them appear much more fake than they needed to be.
6 bandy0154 2014-09-14
Lap dog media. I don't take anything they say seriously anymore, you can't know what's propaganda and what's real.
2 ChakaLee 2014-09-14
Its such a head fuck
1 komidor64 2014-09-14
I thought I heard on some news show that the videos showed no blood and were thought to be staged?.. Staged as in he was already dead, not that it didn't happen
2 oomiak 2014-09-14
Ferdinand's murder was the excuse sold to the population for the war. It was a false flag like the subsequent lucitania disaster.
There are freemasonic fingerprints all over Ferdinand's death, not to mention the Zionist/Rothschild Balfour Declaration as a major factor in both world wars.
They wanted a war to scare the world into accepting a "League of Nations" as well as an Israeli state.
Neither ended up working out, so they created the conditions for another, even more devastating war. They succeeded that time, getting their United Nations and Israel.
1 Dtapped 2014-09-14
People don't relate as well to violence directed at other nationalities. When you visit it upon a fellow countryman's head, you get a more visceral reaction. It feels closer to home.
-4 bricks87 2014-09-14
ISIS has killed a lot more people this year than the Israeli's have killed Palestinians. I believe the Palestinian death toll is 1,400.
3 SleazySnake 2014-09-14
1400 Palestinians were murdered by July 31st of this year, are you saying that none have been murdered at all since then? I doubt it.
-1 bricks87 2014-09-14
Yeah sure more have been killed. Just saying ISIS hasn't just 'beheaded a few white people'. Over a million people in Iraq have been internally displaced because of ISIS.
7 SleazySnake 2014-09-14
I understand that ISIS has murdered a lot more folks than just those three. I watched the videos of them killing hundreds of young Muslim men, though I wish now that I hadn't. The point I was trying to make, is that the Government is trying to drum up support for a war with ISIS based on the purported beheading videos. Which is three people. Why are they not trying to drum up support for was where many, many more people have been murdered. I just don't understand how any sane person can conclude that those three lives taken in those videos are worth more than the thousands of deaths occurring all over the region. Or that somehow those lives are worth going to war over but all the other lives are not. It sickens me
1 ChakaLee 2014-09-14
You're dead right, its fucking hypocrisy. It is becoming more obvious that the whole thing is a huge media show. wag the dog. and we idiots just go along with it ;/ we will gladly take up arms against an evil ~BRANDED~ organisation. branded!!!!!!!! simple PR. brand it and they will believe it.! I feel stupid just being alive. but who the hell can you believe~?
0 bricks87 2014-09-14
Obama drummed up support for airstrikes and troops on the ground due to the potential genocide against Yezidis, the protection of Erbil, a city which completely supports the US and the people in the region who are taking care of over a million people of different faiths and ethnicities. If the Kurdistan Region fell it would have been a bigger disaster than the falling of Mosul.
11 JamesColesPardon 2014-09-14
ISIS my in fact be the real deal (initially funded by the US of course and then set loose). But that doesn't mean Jihadi John is. I'm convinced its some bullshit marketing crap to beat war drums and stimulate MIC spending.
And they'll get a great return in their investment, it looks like.
6 arynx 2014-09-14
Jihadi John, the archenemies of Joe the Plumber. Tune in next week to see what happens in Team America... fuck yeah!
3 Irradiance 2014-09-14
I think so too. I feel like the real ISIS is loosely controlled through funding, weapons, some agents in the leadership, etc. It's probably not that hard and you don't have to get your hands dirty.
The beheadings, IMO, are not done by the real ISIS.
3 spunions 2014-09-14
Then why wouldn't the real ISIS issue a statement that it wasn't them? As OP pointed out, it isn't ISIS' interest to have western superpowers coming after them. I guess that could make ISIS look unorganized and weak if they contradicted themselves like that though.
1 AyeEarnCoins 2014-09-14
Yes they would appear Co opted.
1 roogug 2014-09-14
Maybe there's a reasonable explanation but they're saying Isis makes at least 30 million a day through various activities. How has their income stayed the same throughout the past month of air strikes?
1 ChakaLee 2014-09-14
and where is the huge bank account situated? or do they just deal in massive tubs of cash
9 wantsneeds 2014-09-14
Or, they are someone who wishes for western countries to further weaken themselves in expensive wars that will also tarnish the prestige of those western countries, and they don't care who gets hurt in the countries that are attacked.
6 [deleted] 2014-09-14
In case you missed it: http://www.reddit.com/r/RedPillPolitics/comments/2fjp80/oc_two_beheading_victims_both_tied_to_the/
This guy was tied to an "NGO" too.
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2 SuzysSnoballs 2014-09-14
Go away. Nobody wants you here!
5 dmareddit 2014-09-14
The U.S. and Canada are the only two countries I know of that use orange jumpsuits. The U.S. military would also be considered a user of those same jumpsuits.
The hooded man is holding the knife with his left hand which means he's left dominant. His gun holster is under his left shoulder. Which means he would fire his gun with his righ hand. Which doesn't make sense. You should be dominant with a gun or knife using the same hand. So either he's wearing the holster for show or they didn't do their research before putting this show together.
2 The_Opera_Guy 2014-09-14
I assume the knife was held in the left hand so the camera could see it better.
If it would have been held in the right hand, the prisoners body could have obscured it somewhat.
Since I am familiar with directing a movie, I can assure you from my own experience that the video
is arranged to achieve the maximum theatrical impact possible.
1 ChakaLee 2014-09-14
movie- yes- a formulated picture- case in point
1 ChakaLee 2014-09-14
good call
3 jafbm 2014-09-14
yup
3 chucicabra 2014-09-14
Does anyone even believe there is an ISIS?
3 manthey8989 2014-09-14
Your point that the beheadings make no logical sense to prevent nations from attacking is perfectly stated.
When you jump to: "So, the members of ISIS are actually western agents, posing as radical muslims," you lost me. Your premises do not guarantee your conclusion. I am all for Conspiracy theories and questioning the reports, but I think drawing conclusions like that, based on speculation (albeit seemingly logical) is dangerous.
2 The_Opera_Guy 2014-09-14
I agree with you.
However, the speculation I made before this one was that the Estonian police agent was kidnapped by FSB agents before the FSB confirmed their involvement. My statement rustled a lot of jimmies, but eventually I was vindicated.
So, I've got that going for me, which is nice.
2 X-25Halo 2014-09-14
It all seems so convenient. Remember when they wanted to bomb Syria last year and the public came down hard on the idea? So now we get a beheading a week to try and turn the message around and FOX News and others are gleefully banging the war drums every quarter-hour.
Plus, giving weapons and training to Syrian moderates? Is there such a thing? What about the reports that these journalists that are being beheaded may have been sold to ISIS from these so-called moderates?
Also while I am at it. I wish I never hear the words, "Islam is a religion of peace" ever again. I even heard David Cameron lead with this line this morning and it must be some kind of cruel joke.
2 TPbandit 2014-09-14
Also extremely convenient is how they willy-nilly walk around Texas with body armor covered in ISIS logos. We're seriously expected to believe this nonsense?
2 keleynal 2014-09-14
Do all conspiracy theories start with the phrase "Let's be rational about this"? Reminds me of someone that says "In all honesty" before a sentence. It's like they are apologizing beforehand for being otherwise dishonest, which calls everything they say after that into question.
I say, declare you far fetched theory proudly and without equivocation. The truth stands on it's own. It needs no disclaimer on the outset.
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2 The_Opera_Guy 2014-09-14
Sure they are real.
The US does not mind sacrificing its on citizens for a greater goal.
Take 9/11 for example.
1 bandy0154 2014-09-14
It's just the rationale being fed to us to lead to more war.
The endgame with IS, or ISIS, or ISIL, or whatever the fuck they're being called today, is Syria. Syria leads to Iran, Iran leads to Russia, than viola, WW3!
1 funkarama 2014-09-14
Why can't it be crazy Muslims who want to throw a little fear into the hearts of Westerners and hopefully keep them out of the ME?
3 CaughtInTheNet 2014-09-14
because it will obviously bring about the very opposite effect. The West is more powerful than the mid-east therefore does not feel intimidated. This behaviour by "ISIS" and the media coverage only encourages further war and destruction in mid-east-- this is the zionist agenda. It is designed in a way to keep you clueless and supporting the cause- "fighting extremism".
1 funkarama 2014-09-14
Yeah, I understand the story. I just wonder why it can't be crazy assholes like Jim Jones or whatever. There are a lot of people in the area who would like to set up a Sunni controlled area. Killing a few Westerners might keep some out.
1 sleaze_bag_alert 2014-09-14
Maybe because we are the most "out of the ME" we have been in ages, and anybody with a pulse knows that doing those things will only bring the west back in again.
1 sir_lurk_alot07 2014-09-14
And plus there not worth watching since I can watch scarface and it is basically the same thing just more entertaining.
1 JeffersonFeather 2014-09-14
Some men just want to watch the world burn.
1 Sepandkhatar 2014-09-14
in all honesty i think they just wanna get rid of all extremists
0 Kjordann 2014-09-14
Because it's faked propaganda from our western governments to ignite a war they want, iraq part 3
0 Meistermalkav 2014-09-14
"Seriously, what's the logic behind it? "I'm going to kill a white dude to further incite other white dudes to come here and kill me.""
How about
"We gonna bomb a country full of random brown people, based on the assumption that then, no more brown people will randomly attack us?"
Exactly the same logic.
Treat that retard George W Bush and Dick Cheyney as the war criminals they are.
4 JumboReverseShrimp 2014-09-14
If ISIS were legitimate, they'd make a video stating that they had no quarrel with the West (even if they really did) and that they just wanted to control their own lands, free from colonialism. Any beheading they did would be kept on the down low for now.
And Bush and Cheney lied about a lot. The idea that all these wars are design to decrease attacks on the West is insane. They are trying to stir us all up against one another with false flags and indiscriminate killing. They want instability.
1 ChakaLee 2014-09-14
I think you missed the point
0 500Rads 2014-09-14
lets just make decisions based on our own logic without evidence
-6 [deleted] 2014-09-14
It's not about oil this time bud, nice theory though.
2 The_Opera_Guy 2014-09-14
I assume the knife was held in the left hand so the camera could see it better.
If it would have been held in the right hand, the prisoners body could have obscured it somewhat.
Since I am familiar with directing a movie, I can assure you from my own experience that the video
is arranged to achieve the maximum theatrical impact possible.
1 ChakaLee 2014-09-14
good call