Probably 9/11 for me as well. I was in high school when it happened and it was exactly like people talk about the JFK shooting. I remember exactly where I was and what was going on when it happened and for weeks I watched the news just soaking up everything about that event.

Then loose change came out and I was blown away. That was probably the beginning of it for me.

Yep. It was a crazy Psyop (much like JFK was) where we were all traumatized and just accepted whatever the TV told us had happened (and even when it was happening), and only a brave few who had seen this stuff before immediately called bullshit (see Cooper, William).

There are two awakenings, in my opinion. One is obviously the initial startling, where you realize that what really happened doesn't agree with what we were told had happened.

Then, you internalize that inner conflict, and run out and start consuming information. Memorizing details. I can rifle off as many inconsistencies in the Official Version™ compared to actual measured events and what was broadcast as TV programming.

But then you take a step back and really see the forest in the trees, and realize that America was attacked that day, but it wasn't 19 dudes with box cutters, it was the Military Industrial Media Complex.

They have done it before, but this had an accompanying media campaign that was far beyond anything we had ever seen. And the destruction they have wrought in our names and the wake of the self-inflicted tragedy have been equally massive.

And then you realize where things are going. You realize that the world is getting organized into a bipolar world (Anglo-American (5eyes)/NATO/Petrodollar) with BRICS/IMF-SDR, and nothing good ever happens when these forces start mobilizing and ratcheting up military spending and proxy war efforts to have control of as many natural resources as possible in the coming cataclysm.

And then you really wake up, and start visualizing the new world that will eventually be created (I'm more of a pessimist today and think it'll happen not only in my lifetime, but before 2020). And you realize there there's really nothing you can do about it, and stock up on whiskey, because that's the only currency I care about.

Great post, right along what my experience was. It's just a series of awakenings, each more astounding than the last. I'm also of the belief that we will see some sort of culmination of all of this imperialism before 2020.

Yep. It was a crazy Psyop (much like JFK was) where we were all traumatized and just accepted whatever the TV told us happened (and even when it was happening), and only a brave few who had seen this stuff before immediately called bullshit (see Cooper, William).

One video that always got to me was this one that was taken while the buildings were burning. It's these kids, probably high school age, around a basketball court talking about what's happening and one kid says how the CIA does this stuff and it was probably an inside job. They started nailing it right for what it was the minute it was happening.

It made me realize how damn naive I was growing up.

Great post, right along what my experience was. It's just a series of awakenings, each more astounding than the last. I'm also of the belief that we will see some sort of culmination of all of this imperialism before 2020.

Thanks buddy.

One video that always got to me was this one that was taken while the buildings were burning. It's these kids, probably high school age, around a basketball court talking about what's happening and one kid says how the CIA does this stuff and it was probably an inside job. They started nailing it right for what it was the minute it was happening.

I would love to see this - have a link? I'll try and find it otherwise.

It made me realize how damn naive I was growing up.

Yeah but that doesn't matter anymore. You know something's coming again, and I'll be ready to call bullshit. And that's why they want to shut down/regulate the Internet, why everything you hear these days is about Cyber attacks (which we have no evidence of, ever), and they're going to deputize/indemnify the telecomms and governments into sharing and blocking lawful content, which you know they would classify as hate-speech if they could.

And when this Event is coupled with the incoming Petrodollar collapse, nobody's going to want to listen to us shout that from the rooftops when they're little green rectangles printed from the Federal Reserve Corporation "doesn't buy stuff no more."

And that's check and mate, fellas. Hence the whiskey.

I would love to see this - have a link? I'll try and find it otherwise.

I remember seeing it in a youtube video that showed all sorts of footage from the ground that day. People's reactions right after it happened on the street. If I can find it again I'll let you know.

Likewise.

I will trade ammunition for whiskey. I prefer a double malt Irish variety, but after the collapse, I'll drink anything you've got.

belangp?

Are you asking if I'm belangp?

Apart from the defeatism in the final stanza, I wanted to say that this is a terrific post. The 'waking up' process is a process.

It seems to me that some people who think they are 'awake' haven't yet figured out why their fellow humans are asleep, and this understanding is at the heart of actually being awake.

There is a good reason why our fellow humans are asleep and once you understand that, it changes everything.

Yeah, maybe I was a little too pessimistic at the end there. But the process is what I was trying to emphasis and I am glad you read it.

It's something that is active, and the farther I go the more depressed I get (but maybe that's by design?) We all have our good days and bad, I guess. I've had more bad than good lately.

Watching the Zeitgeist movies. I know theyr not perfect or whatever, but i suddenly was able to identify all the bullshit and lies surrounding me all the time, everywhere. It made me question pretty much everything.

I happened to watch the Zeitgeist movies right before Snowden came out. Getting the Zeitgeist background, then watching in real time as the media crucified him while they told us that 1984-level government spying is good for us.

That did it for me.

Seeing the fnords

http://www.amazon.com/The-Illuminatus-Trilogy-Pyramid-Leviathan/dp/0440539811

I hate to tell you, but....

Will def take a deeper look at this. I know the Zeigeist movies has some smaller/bigger flaws, but it doesnt change the fact that for me personally, it's the movie that made me be more aware.

Also doesnt change the fact that the world today is fucked up, beyond repair im afraid.

Smoking weed and realizing the government had been lying.

I will say that was a small part of it. We had been taught, pretty much, that MJ is extremely addictive (smoke it once and you're a junkie for life) and that it will make you go crazy and jump out windows.

Then you try it, and it's like... huh. It makes me more creative, makes food taste better, makes sex better but it does make me kinda lazy. Then you compare it to alcohol, and think, "Why is this illegal again?"

Thanks for replying with what I was going to say.

It's amazing how much more bad for the public alcohol is versus marijuana.

Then you start going down the conspiracy rabbit hole and you start to see why revolution is required:

• First cars were designed to run on Hemp Ethanol (alcohol)
• Standard Oil helps start prohibition to stop alcohol from taking off as a fuel
• Marijuana is gone after by paper and cotton manufacturers which is why it was made illegal
• Due to marijuana being illegal medicine has not has access to a chemical/drug that could effect the whole industry.
• Manufacturing has not had access to hemp to create everything from durable clothing to car bodies to microchips.

Also when you smoke marijuana it does something the elite and corporate control HATES. You put yourself in someone's shoes more. You aren't as quick to judge.

Then when you take magic mushrooms and have full ego loss, well that's when you really start seeing how twisted everything is.

"Oooohhhh... This IS an afterlife. Why are all these people being dicks in my afterlife???"

This material reality is actually heaven and hell. If you can really design your own outcomes through belief, you can live how you want.

For example, the people you see at cashier checkouts who are just bickering or complaining about how terrible everything is. They are living terrible lives of their own design. If the same people chose to discuss good things and imagine good outcomes, they are shifting their view toward the heavens.

It helps to have a family which lays the groundwork for that, giving you optimism from the outset.

Those aren't people. And you aren't you. You're me and so are they. I'm floating in a current of constant change and suffering. There are no good or bad outcomes. There is only change. Next time don't be so self-centered and eat the whole bag ;)

Look man... I know that people should have a good attitude towards life, but don't throw delusional bullshit around either.

Don't sit there and pretend that the children in Palestine just didn't believe hard enough.

I know that you mean well, but well meaning delusions are what has gotten us into this mess.

Well there is also material context here. One new age theory is that each life is taking all of its experiences and helping to "fill up a bucket" with all the varied experiences there are. When the bucket is full, that soul moves on or something. It could very well be that the "chattel" and the "victims" have already experienced a blissful life, or perhaps they will in the future. I'm not saying you can just imagine it and it happens like poof - I think it is more like you have to guide yourself through the material world to positive outcomes. Like not joining the marines, and like not voting for Romney.

I like to think Dick Cheney is going to be re-incarnated as a pig a few thousand times. Be slaughtered by inefficient butchers. MMM. Cheney Bacon.

I try not to eat pork because Pigs are such intelligent animals. Not really concerned about beef or chicken, but Pork is just kind of mean. Those animals are smarter than dogs.

Yep. It was the entire drug war thing for me. Well-intentioned teachers were feeding us clearly incorrect information. Where did it come from? The government. And the government was inflicting far worse harm on pot smokers than the drug did. I began to wonder why, and when I found out, my view of government as generally benign (with a bit of corruption and self-dealing here and there) was shattered. Once I was confident in my understanding of that, I began to wonder what else they were lying about. I fell into a very deep rabbit hole...

Two comments; It seems to minimize the arrogance/aggression in me. The arrogance kept me moving forward and assuming I was doing the correct thing. My high stress levels kept me hyper-focused and unable to relax enough to see the big picture. [I was also highly successful in career and with women]

Secondly, when then relaxing and evaluating that picture, it seems to allow some plasticity which did not exist before. This is a dangerous path, however, as it allows you to make connections which are not completely rational. So it must be everything in moderation. [allowed me some lateral and forward advancement in career I never would have achieved otherwise, and allowed me to start having long term/meaningful relationships with women. but made it much harder to date casually]

You start with a completely irrational worldview which was fed to you by the powers that be [used to be the church controlling people through faith, now the governments/corporations controlling people through desire and fear]. If you are able to gain perspective from a place of relaxation you can then abridge that worldview with your own observations and critical thinking. However in order to continue to function within the system of the former [everyone else's bullshit reality] - you must hold on to some of that animalistic arrogance or you will cease to function in society. [aka become a crazy dreamer]

The fact that some of my core, basic realizations about how things are [including how the Fed is a system of usury] makes people of my Father's generation believe I am batshit crazy tells me the brainwashing system was in full effect and still is. Many will never escape it, and they will continue to feed the machine with blood.

Realizing the government has been keeping pot under ball and chain whilst big pharma makes massive profit on their patented meds.

This video was the start

The stolen 2000 "Election" of GW Bush is what really woke me up, the way the MSM whitewashed it after that then put the nail in the coffin that our democracy was really just an illusion and a big lie.

I immediately suspected 9/11 was a lie when the boxcutter narrative was immediately disseminated and they said it was OBL and Al Queda when they never claimed responsibility for it like they did every other attack. Why not claim responsibility for this one? Especially since, if they really did it, it would be the huge success of a lifetime for them. 9/11 was immediately fishy to me.

A big one for me was the still shot of the FBI agent standing on a pile of the rubble of the WTC holding a TOTALLY UNDAMAGED 100% LEGIT Arab hijacker's passport.

I saw that image once on the news, and then never again. But it remained in the narrative for years.

Since Kennedy, they all were. GHWB? Come on. GWB? Even worse. The man runs the US intelligence (quote) forces, then becomes the most voted for president. This is not reality.

Yes that is one I have not thought about in a long while. That and learning about how Israel gets away with everything is what started the spark.

UBL did claim responsibility, and I believe he did coordinate the aircraft flights.

He wasn't so much a patsy as an Agent/Patsy.

No, he didn't. Al Queda never claimed responsibility either.

If you have proof, find it and post it.

Proof is not our government officials saying he did it. Proof is an official claim of responsibility from Al Queda. (No faked tapes either)

Well this is a whole can of worms. For some reason I was convinced he had made some statements about the reason he did it, but the only really contextual thing I can recall now is from David Cross making a joke about it.

It seems like they denied responsibility afterwards. I could explain that as even the black sheep of the Saudi family didn't want to draw too much attention on the Saudi family. [the ones we helped fly out of the US during the time when the skies were supposedly on lockdown]

I find this, but of course it is not "proof".

http://www.defense.gov/news/Dec2001/d20011213ubl.pdf

Based on what the FBI did, however, and based on all the intelligence I've read, I am personally convinced that the aircraft part of the operation was carried out by mainly Saudis/Al Quaeda. YMMV.

Learning about the northwoods documents. Late 90's. That blew me away. I knew if there were people who would plan and document terrorist attacks on their own people, that it could happen in real life and it probably happened before.

9/11 solidified what I was thinking before that.

Occupy Wall Street

Reading War is a Racket by Smedley Butler.

Sandy hook. And also getting interested in politics. I denied it was a conspiracy for so long until I looked at the inconsistencies. Then I started looking into other. My brother always said to me, never believe what anyone tells you. Always do your own research.

Of course. He passed away 2 years ago. I live my life living for him as well as starting his business. Such a huge influence on my life and got me to start questioning everything. At first it was questioning the American diet. Then from there to take down corporations with spreading the truth about corporations and getting people to live a healthier lifestyle. I will accomplish his goal.

I became libertarian last year so my ideology before that lines up with my new one. It's perfect. Change starts with one individual then snowballs if the message is great enough.

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Your not adding to the conversation. Why post here if your not adding to conversation?

Nixon. And the JFK assassination.

Johnson.

The Fed bailouts and the military industrial complex. Then big pharma.

First phase: Iran-Iraq war (Yup, I'm old school).

Second phase: Gulf war I

Third and final phase: Introduction of Salvia Divinorum into my life (serious upgrade to the processing system).

Ayahuasca for me. Its a process.

The meddling has been going on as far back as the Civil Wars. Even before that. That shit scares me.

Finding out where the phrase 'banana republic' truly originated was a real eye-opener. The fact that there's a consumer store called "Banana Republic" is so profane, it's almost unimaginable. A level of irony that could only exist in America.

The fact that there's a consumer store called "Banana Republic" is so profane, it's almost unimaginable.

It really is pretty crazy. A similar one for me was when I found out the whole background of the diamond industry - how they're kept artificially scarce, how almost all of the world's supply is owned by a small handful of people, and how there was an actual propaganda campaign to make girls desire diamonds and expect them as engagement rings (when that was never done historically).

Wait until you find out how much of the world's eyeware supply is produced by one company.

NOW do you understand why prescription glasses cost $400 at retail?

It's really the continual, casual discoveries that really drive the point home about how our world really works.

Wait... so you're saying it doesn't cost $300 to put an ounce of plastic together? Blasphemy!

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Still legal in Canada :)

...but yes, they do fear salvia, that's for sure.

Zeitgeist.

Identified as a Catholic and Republican who supported Bush with the Iraq war. That all changed after I watched Zeitgeist with an open mind.

Then became a proud atheist, Ron Paul fan (also discovered from Zeitgeist), and opposed any and all US imperialism.

Got fooled by Candidate Obama who campaigned on peace and restoring civil liberties, got exactly the opposite and in some ways worse than Bush on those issues, such as whistleblowers.

Now I see the inevitable future that Marx talked about where technology would make human labor obsolete, as being real and possible in our lifetime. So many jobs exist that don't have to because we are addicted to the consumption cycle and monetary system.

Technology improves, populations grow exponentially, the only future that involves a prospering human race involves acting not in opposition to progress and technology for the sake of preserving our antiquated system, but embracing it and using it to our benefit.

Obama is a Marxist. Look at Marxs 10 points, we have them in this government. You ever seen dreams from my real father?

Obama is a Marxist.

A Marxist with a love for big business?

Hey hey! That makes him not a Marxist!

Marx was also a pawn of the Rothschild/Illuminati cabal, who wrote his doctrine to get people to think they can be equal, but in actually, created an idea to fool people into totalitarian control.

You should read some Marx. I mean, actually read him. Not someone else's interpretation or analysis.

Then come back to this comment. You'll finally be able to understand the embarrassment we all feel for you right now.

Speak.

Obama.is the furthest. Thing from a marxist

I've always been awake. I've always had a healthy mistrust of government and corporations and religions... really, any individual or organization that would attempt to tell me how to think or act.

I've always tended to look behind the behavior - what's in it for YOU, if I do this thing you want me to do? In very few cases is the answer altruistic - true friends, life partner, parents.

Did you know about the role of media? Man, what a crazy life. Respect.

Yeah, it is pretty obvious when you can watch two different news shows and see two totally different stories about the exact same event.

1. Bitcoin. 2. Federal Reserve. 3. Kennedy.

God help us all.

I don't know why you're getting downvoted. Bitcoin also led to my awakening. At first I just thought it was a way to get rich quick, but after learning about it's utility and what the fraudulent reserve is all about, I delved into a lot more information regarding conspiracies. In fact, this subreddit is the first one I ever started frequenting outside of /r/bitcoin because someone linked to it from there.

You think bitcoin is a government creation?

The question was, "what caused you to wake up?" Bitcoin was what woke me up. It caused me to read about the Federal Reserve and economics. Then, wondering what else I had wrong, I looked up Kennedy. Mind blown.

i highly doubt it, the key to power is money creation, bitcoin by design prevents centralized money creation so they would have to earn any bitcoins they would want to spend instead of just pulling it out of thin air infinitely. If it is such a deception, it is a beyond poorly thought out one that is going to cost them their throne.

I read the illuminati trilogy by Robert Anton Wilson and that was it. Mid nineties

Good stuff. I eventually got my hands on a physical copy of The Principia Discordia. True to form, I read it once, and then snuck into a high school library and randomly shoved it in the stacks where it could do the most damage.

Im decently educated, though I hide it well and after learning the history of the federal reserve quite recently it enraged me.

A paper I wrote in "the 90s" that got me disqualified from ... some type of competition (this might have started a trend until I was barred from competing...maybe). My proctor and I were allowed to discuss the decision and attempt to have it overturned. That process exposed me to politics, bureaucracy, and tyranny all at once.

That's what I get for disagreeing with the writing prompt's provably false claims...

At first I was genuinely confused. Why would I be disqualified for performing the requested work. Is it not my job to extrapolate and explain my persuasive paper? Apparently only 1 kind of persuasion was allowed...real persuasive.

After that occurred, I realized that even my proctor was upset, and probably embarrassed by the whole ordeal. It inspired me to be more concerned about how "free speech" was interpreted around me. It probably inspired me to debate. It might have been the synapse that made me pick up a couple books I might have otherwise ignored.

The next year, next competition cycle, I made sure to be in the same writing competition. I'm sure the talking heads were looking for a change, if they could be compelled to care. Either way, they were screwed that year, as the prompt was about 1st amendment interpretation, what I had been reading about for a full year.

I needed two extra sheets to get my "persuasiveness" on to paper. Apparently, someone had tested a pen on a corner of the back of one of these sheets of paper. I was disqualified again, but this time, it was due to a pen mark on the back of my work...and I had no pens on my person. There was no recourse, and I wasn't allowed to resubmit, even by hand. Of course, by this point, I'm now a "troublemaker" and have to nearly beg to be allowed to go the next year.

All this while cutting my teeth in programming...but I digress.

Iraq War. there were just a lot of things that didn't add up, finding no chemical weapons was just the icing on the cake;

• no plan for reconstruction
• no plan for keeping the peace between various groups
• no plan for how to get out
• torture, we don't do that
• no spies on the grounds, just satellite images, it just seemed wrong that we didn't have anything but fuzzy camera images
• no plan for Afghanistan either
• why would the US invade a country two countries on its own, and have no plan for what happens next in terms of leaving? How was it that the Taliban and whoever we were fighting in Iraq were far more challenging of an enemy to defeat than the Nazis, British Empire, Confederates, Japanese Imperialists, Viet Cong... wars dont take this long...

Then I just looked at a map... whats sandwiched between Iraq and Afghanistan!?!?

I travelled to Central America, lived there twice, got my minor in Latin American Studies. the shit thats swept under the rug about what the US did there during the Cold War. Not that the 'other guys' were much better, but this wasn't part of the narrative of "we're the good guys"

it kind of just came together, a slow connecting of the dots internally. then 2008 came around.

Something that has driven me further (further into the rabbit hole of consipracies as i've been told) is global warming, or for that matter the anti-global warming narrative. I have a masters in Environmental Science, and just seeing the bullshit that is spoon fed to people (and then seeing those same ass wipes eat it up) is one of the most surreal things I've ever witnessed.

Whatever. But something happens when you talk to people about these problems, there is the glossed over look that hits their faces. Hold that thought.

Now jump with me to Tower 7. Lets assume for fun that it really did collapse due to fire... a fire that couldn't be put out by its sprinkler system. Think about that. The fire sprinkler system failed. At the most financially important area of the world (lower Manhattan, let alone the World Trade Center), a modern counter measure to the most basic threat to urban areas failed... Fucking nevermind the Illuminati or Rothschild, how does this not get front page coverage!? You would think that the inability to put out a fire, in a building, a modern built building in a densely packed city would big a big deal. Even with a 'terrorist attack' going on.

Either this loops back to the false flag narrative, or an equally terrifying reality... that the infrastructure millions rely on is a joke and many of us work in death traps. Neither outcome is something anyone wants to deal with, since the scope of failure by fellow human beings is so great it eats at your confidence in simple things like that car next to you not running a red light. So what do people do? remember that glazed look i talked about earlier!? Yeah, boom. Glazed look for 9/11. Global Warming. Elections. etc...

It seriously makes me feel like I underestimated the magnitude of a message just in the song title Wake up from said song by Rage Against the Machine. Wake up.

It actually was 9/11. I studied and researched all day that day, digging through pictures, news on in the background (frequently changing the channel when they went off on unnecessary tangents), and recalling every second of high school physics class I'd ever attended. I think THE moment when I called bullshit was when they were talking about how hot the fires were (even before the global collapse) but I kept coming back to this image, and I was telling people that were looking at pictures with me, "you guys, that's a woman standing there in the impact zone! If it's so hot, how is that possible?" And people told me I was seeing things, that there was no woman standing there at all, that it was just an optical illusion from the rubble, even though we were all looking at the same image. It was my introduction to how well grown, functional adults can convince themselves to ignore things that don't fit with how they understand the world to work.

I'd always liked shows like Sightings, Unsolved Mysteries, and X-Files... but I guess until 9/11 I really at my core thought they were just fun things to think about and assumed reality was far more mundane than that.

I miss those days sometimes.

When Arabs were blamed for 9/11 and then we invaded Afghanistan a non-Arab country instead.

Listening to Ron Paul before the Invasion of Iraq. Seeing the vote count for the invasion of Iraq. Seeing almost every other country try to stop us from doing it. Then we did it. And it was exactly like Ron Paul predicted. I had my second helping of "wake up" when Ron Paul was shut out by the media for presidential elections, and had ballot boxes return with "0" that were obviously not 0 in Massachusetts.(lost hope in fixing the system from within), and when Obama extended Bush tax cuts and Patriot act. From then on I knew Democrats and Republicans are two sides of the same coin.

It was definitely watching Ron Paul during the 2008 election that "woke" me up. The fact that he was the only one speaking the truth about U.S. foreign policy, and how he had predicted the economic collapse made me realize how full of shit most politicians are. Since then I question everything I hear or read in the news.

I think it was The Arrivals. I had always a feeling though, that something isn't about right. I mean, I thought like " What retarded, dumbass monkeys are ruling this world? Why does nobody care about the more important stuff like: Erasing World-hunger, finding cures for several diseases. Instead: this is the bad guy!".

It makes so much sense now after I did quite some research.

The jewish terrorist attacks against Palestinian civilians.

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Definitely 9/11. I was into several conspiracies at the time and was eager to discuss 9/11. But after a lot of research and seeing how close-minded to learning a lot of conspiracy theorists were, I woke up to the fact that a lot of conspiracy theorists just want to be different, not expose some grand truth.

Then you've been hanging with the wrong theorists. Don't let them deter you from finding like minded people who seek the truth. We exist.

9/11 got me started but I feel like I have been on a never ending quest towards the truth ever since.

There was a day that people were mocking this 9/11 documentary and I decided to go watch it, assuming it was foolish and mockworthy and within 15 minutes the worlds that left my mouth were "Holy shit they did it!"

I nether believed one way or the other, I had simply never had evidence brought before me to examine. But that was a pivitol moment in my life.

Fundamentally no. Knowing has allowed me to see how fucked up humanity as a whole is. I get to sit back with answer to lifes problems, solutions to world problems, and watch as the rest of humanity allows us to go right off the cliff.

If not for my absolute love of knowledge it would be rather depressing.

It was Alfred P Murro building. I was still in high school. I couldnt belive it was one guy that pulled that off. Then was dumb enough to not put plates on his car to get cought.

Then what woke me up about this sub being bullshit was all the posts of pics for the dc truckers strike. I was there all day making loops around the beltway. Did two in one direction and then two the other. Repeated that for 6 hours.

I saw 4 trucks and nothing of the pics people were posting.

Also had a friend downtown and nothing of protests like people were talking about. So the people of this sub were being just as bad as msm

I would say the Waco siege was the slap in the face that made me realize that we Americans are only free to do as we are told. After that, the OKC bombing and the hard to swallow narrative awakened me to the fact that people were going to kill or die to maintain control over us all. Then, 9/11 was proof positive that there is so much at stake that thousands of lives don't matter to the powers that be.

Ha! In my initial response, I had used that exact word, "strange" to describe my feelings about the OKC bombing. I changed it to "hard to swallow" afterwards. It was very strange, almost as strange as Building 7 falling into it's own footprint after some office furniture burnt inside. So strange...

Farenhype 9/11 senior year high school

Just a gradual shift over time. Once I cut my cable chord I feel like I was able to spend more time thinking and less time being entertained and my views started to shift. I never bought into the 9/11 being an inside job when I was a kid because I was just unable to fathom that kind of criminal negligence coming from the country that took out Stalin and Hitler. I still don't know if I would consider it an inside job, per say, but I don't think it was an organic attack. After the Snowden leaks came out and he broke the story on PRISM, I became instantly jaded against those in charge and couldn't believe the scope of this abuse of power, and the fact that NOBODY WAS PUNISHED OR REPRIMANDED FOR IT, really fucking ticked me off.

I always knew about MK Ultra since I was younger and have kind of been a UFO believer after I read a few books on Roswell / UFO conspiracies, so I guess I already had a skeptical bias, but they were really nothing to me other than neat parts of history.

Can't say for sure if it was any one thing. But watching different news channels is a big part of it for me. I'd watch a story on CNN, then see the same story being covered on the BBC, CTV (Canada), Al Jazeera and RT.

After a while, I began to realize that everybody's news is biased and has a certain amount of propaganda built into it. CNN is really bad. What truly amazes me is how many Americans still actually believe their own news is the absolute truth.

If there's anything else that woke me up, it's all the alt stuff I've read over the years online. This kind of goes along with what I've already mentioned about the news. There'd be so many interesting (and seemingly important) stories presented online. Yet somehow, these same stories never get coverage on TV. A couple of years went by and I noticed this more and more.... there's a lot of things you never see on television. What's more, it became apparent that TV (compared to the web) is a very restricted medium.

Once I noticed this, I started questioning what I was seeing. I stopped being a passive receiver for the official narrative and that was it.

TV is a PSYOP tool. Back when we were transitioning from analog to digital signals, the government gave away coupons for the digital converter boxes. But in the inner city, people didn't care enough to take their coupons to get the new Boxes. Somehow, the government was tracking the adoption to digital signals. The government hired contractors to literally go door to door and install those boxes for people in the inner city. I realized that Govt brainwashing starts with the TV.

The meat and dairy industry and big pharma

I'm nineteen now, but I'd say I woke up in 07 when the housing market crashed. I know what your thinking in that, there's no way I'd only be 12-13 years old at the time. But I was the oldest of three, my mom lost her job and we went through some shit. It prompted me to learn and research everything about the economy and politics at a very young age. I absorbed all of the information and figured it out eventually

Thanks, and no it does not

Sandy Hook. None of the evidence presented fits together and the secrecy for "privacy of the families" stinks to high heaven. Watching the initial news reports made me feel like I was in the universe of 1984 or V for Vendetta. From that day on, I always try to look past every false appearance in everything for the truth.

I became full of fear as a kid after 9/11 that any building I was in could have be blown up next. I fell for everything the media spoonfed us because I didn't know any better and my parents did the same. I even had a few memorable episodes of panic/anxiety in that following year. Now that I look back and study 9/11, I'm filled with anger that I was wronged and tricked into fear for so long. That's what fuels my curiosity. I refuse to take what is told to me at face value.

For me, it was the ISIS beheading videos (and subsequent media response) that made me feel like I was in a dystopian movie.

The videos were so obviously, transparently fake (no one is killed onscreen, the acting is terrible, and the 'insurgent' is a caricature who speaks fluent english) but for some reason, the media coverage was more schmaltzy and emotional than to previous (obviously fucking real) beheading videos.

Next was an unprecedented storm of censorship as Liveleak/Twitter began deleting the videos and banning accounts sharing them, respectively. The UK government actually threatened to prosecute their own citizens if they shared the videos, under anti-terror laws.

Of course, all of the oddness and inauthenticity just led me to figure out that the whole thing was a PR blitz to justify war with Syria - a conflict we've been trying to start for a few years now with very little popular support.

Had those videos not been so poorly made, I probably never would have retroactively questioned other events (Sandy Hook, etc) with suspicious media coverage, strange details, etc.

Excellent post. I have been wondering how many new people have been awoken by these amusingly-dodgy 'ISIS' 'beheadings'.

I think that one important part of the waking up process is realising a false narrative for oneself, and then seeing how easily other people - including those who one previously thought of as intelligent - fall for the very same false narrative one easily saw through.

Then one realises just how gullible people are, and the entire false paradigm of 'how could the government successfully lie to so many people' falls apart.

Which then leads to either depression/suicide/drug addiction, OR a journey of questioning everything one previously believed. I have personally found the latter path to be more rewarding and enjoyable.

then leads to either depression/suicide/drug addiction, OR a journey of questioning everything

Or both... Now this is purely anecdotal, but it seems to me like drugs are often the most attractive to the personality types that are most prone to questioning the narrative.

Ever sit back and wonder how many bright kids with a fire in their heart ended up killing themselves with drugs over the latter half of the 20th century? It's been a bit of a slow-motion holocaust... As I grow older, I am fairly convinced that the prudish, "abstinence-only" attitude towards drugs in our society is a social construct designed to push all blame on to the user, label them, jail them, etc.

This trap is set for most volatile, fiery, 'threatening' personality types, and the gutless cogs who are afraid to use drugs (or otherwise challenge authority) are satisfied to collect their paycheck, eat a cheeseburger and go home to an endless stream of internet porn.

In a dominator culture, followers and sycophants are more valuable than personality types that rock the boat...

Some very good points in there.

Or maybe it's all paranoid rambling.

... I'm not sure it matters, really.

Great thread. I'm going to do a video of this exact topic and throw it on YouTube. I hope others will jump in. There are thousands of people waking up every day and they're scared shitless. They need to know they're not alone.

What is your youtube channel? I think it would be terrific if this subreddit began to foster its own network of awoken people making independent videos. People like [Freeradiorevolution](www.youtube.com/freeradiorevolution) and his ilk are doing incredible work to expose the msm lies.

1. You can spare the extra couple of seconds to type, "people." It's not going to hurt.

2. Learning about how the Federal Reserve was established.

Also, definitely read up on the Federal Reserve and the pressure that was put on Wilson to approve it.

:D

No worries.

When I heard Bill Cooper for the first time.

Channel 1

http://www.ascd.org/publications/educational-leadership/may93/vol50/num08/Channel-One@-Good-or-Bad-News-for-Our-Schools%C2%A2.aspx

The truth is that channel 1 is a trojan horse. Whittle communications buys a TV for every classroom as well as some other equipment if the school agrees to require students to watch 15 minutes of propaganda every day.

And that is exactly what they broadcast.

Several years ago there was some controversy over channel 1 airing ads for junk food, tip of the iceberg.

Watched a David icke lecture and it blew my mind up lol. Haven't looked at reality in the same way since.

Peter Joseph really put things in perspective. Carl Sagan's Cosmos series and Richard Dawkin's Christmas lectures also gave me a very useful understanding of Science.

not buying the impossible official sept. 2001 conspiracy. but probably it was Iran/Contra.

Sandy Hook was my wake up.

Recognizing my own consciousness. I've been awake since I was old enough to question.

HW Bush's New World Order Speech at the UN

I must have been born awake because as far back as I can remember I knew things were f***** up

I stumbled across this and I've never been the same since discovering that a huge number of powerful people in law enforcement, the military, politics, etc. are either pedophiles themselves or are directly involved with pedophiles and that there is a global, protected network of these psychopaths. There was no going back after that.

I knew the scale of this was exponentially larger than MSM was leading us to believe, but ugh... that Disney quote.

But then practically every damn paragraph, I was like, "that's the worst thing I've ever read" reads on "Nope, wait, that's the worst thing I've ever read".

Blood hell. Thank you for sharing this, and for the inevitable sleepless nights : \

BTW WOT (Web of Truth) users, the link is fine (right click the red circle and click the pop-up for details) /patronising

No problem man - the only way to stop this shit from happening is to spread the word wherever possible and let people know that this is going on on such a massive scale. Most people either have no idea or choose to ignore the signs in order to protect their psyches.

If you want to read a little more on this subject, here's another eye-opener. It's a speech given in 1992 by a prominent psychological counselor at a convention on multiple personality disorder - and it's very disturbing.

First 9/11, now I focus mostly on vaccines

What about vaccines is a conspiracy?

They are inducing autoimmune diseases for profit

Shroooooooms

Mike Rupperts Truth & Lies of 9/11

First year of college my American history teacher asked us of we knew about the masons. We didn't. So I went to my friends house cause he had aol dial up 2.0 and we spent all night looking up Freemasons and reading about the fmords it wasn't until 9/11 when everything clicked!

I didn't look seriously into the 9/11 thing until after I had seen the following documentaries;

"The Century of the Self” by Adam Curtis (BBC documentary) History of mass market advertising, public relations, and propaganda. Edward Bernays (Sigmund Freud's nephew) and his tremendous impact on modern society.

“The Money Masters” - by Bill Still (documentary) A must see. A shocking rewrite of American financial history. And his follow-up award winning documentary - The Secret of OZ

The concept of "Manufacturing Consent" as detailed in the this documentary

History of the last 100 years started making more sense when viewed through the lenses of that information.

What really sealed the deal was that when I starting looking into 9/11, I found out about WTC7. I was already very familiar with what a controlled demolition looked like.

I was 16 when 9/11 happened, so I really didn't pay much attention to the world at the time. I remember fox did a special on the moon landing hoax a while back, I thought it was interesting, but didn't really buy it. As I got older I started to question a lot more about what we are told. I knew our government was fucked. Obvious the game was rigged. The rich play with the world the same way my brother plays monopoly, that's why I would never let him be the banker. I think Sandy Hook was kind of the breaking point, where I decided I can't trust anything the media/government officials say.

For me, it was when Barack Obama bailed out the financial institutions. I live in Canada, and was in high school and college through the Bush era. Ontario public education has a heavy liberal bias, so the idea of the american war machine, and the military industrial complex was not foreign at all. Nevertheless, i retained faith that it was just certain individuals taking advantage of a broken system. But, after Obama's campaign, and having my expectations risen to such a level. It made it very difficult not to see the contradictions in his words and actions. It was abundantly clear there was no "change" coming, and i had to completely reevaluate the system i was indoctrinated into.

9-11 and the book on neuroscience "incognito" by David Eagleman

The documentary Loose Change. I was at home sick, and aimlessly browsing through Netflix. Saw it on there and had a laugh with it wondering how anyone could believe such a thing. Watched it, and then wanted to do my research to maybe debunk such claims. I dug deeper and deeper only to realize that I was completely wrong. I know that some here want to crap all over it, but like a lot of the material out there, it is a stepping stone in the right direction.

The live footage of the pentagon on 9/11... that hole was not made by a 747...

DXM tripping and meditation. I've always been curious, and the disassociation allowed me to take in information that I'd always not be interested in, or went against my personal beliefs. I started getting into math and science, learning about history, studying religions of the world, and those paths kept leading me further down the rabbit hole.

This was all post-high school too.

Discovered Art Bell in the late 90s

I was pretty late. Obama saying that bankers need to be rewarded for their 'savvy deals' during the bailouts was the first step. Finding out about NDAA 2012 (and the near-total media silence) was the tipping point. After that I started looking into 9/11 research and went ho..leee.. shit.

For me it was Zeitgeist. It had a massive impact on me because it was the first time I had been exposed to a piece of media that opposed the narrative of the establishment, what actually happened on 9/11.

Now after 11 or so years i realise this shit has been happening since before WWI.

It's only a matter of time before the british stasi start kicking down doors and killing us free thinkers off.

Depends what you mean by wake up.

Discovering 9/11 was a false flag operation.

Discovering the moon landing hoax.

Discovering the elite's involvement in secret societies.

Discovering the banking conspiracy.

Discovering the global warming fraud.

Discovering the truth of the Bible.

Discovering the evolution fraud.

Discovering the Holocaust hoax.

Those are the one's I can think of and in roughly that order.

Could you elaborate on the 'truth of the bible' part?

Pretty self explanatory really.

The Gospel is the truth.

Whether you believe it or not, Christ is the fulfillment of the Savior prophesised in the Old Testament who would pay the debt for the sins of mankind to save the world.

This is what the Bible points to as well as the testimonies of many people of various beliefs that have had near-death experiences.

Jesus is the "Lamb of God, who takes away the sin of the WORLD!" - John 1:29

"The Son is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn over all creation. For in him all things were created: things in heaven and on earth, visible and invisible, whether thrones or powers or rulers or authorities; all things have been created through him and for him. He is before all things, and in him all things hold together. And he is the head of the body, the church; he is the beginning and the firstborn from among the dead, so that in everything he might have the supremacy. For God was pleased to have all his fullness dwell in him, and through him to reconcile to himself ALL things, whether things on earth or things in heaven, by making peace through his blood, shed on the cross." - Colossians 1:15-20

"For as in Adam ALL die, even so in Christ shall ALL be made alive." - 1 Corinthians 15:22

"ALL people will see God’s salvation." - Luke 3:6

"For God has bound EVERYONE over to disobedience so that he may have mercy on them ALL." - Romans 11:32

"For God did not send his Son into the world to condemn the world, but to save the world through him." - John 3:17

"We have put our hope in the living God, who is the Savior of ALL people, and ESPECIALLY of those who believe." - 1 Timothy 4:10

Those are just a few passages from the New Testament, for more verses outlining universal salvation, including many from the Old Testament, click here - Universalism Is Not In The Bible?

The book of Revelation perfectly details the two evil powers that are at work today.

World Jewry - "Behold, I will cause those of the synagogue of Satan, who say that they are Jews and are not, but do lie; behold I will make them come and bow down at your feet, and make them know that I have loved you. - Revelation 3:9

&

The Catholic Church - Described as the Whore of Babylon or Mystery Babylon the Great.

If you study the secret societies and beliefs within the upper echelons of Catholic Church and Judeo-Freemasonry you'll find they have most of their origin in Babylon.

Man, it was a long but steady process for me.

For personal events and influences, I was a peace time volunteer in the Army in the 90's, between the two "wars". During that time, I found The Punk Rock. and after that time, I started just living a fairly 'counter-culteral' life-style. I also read a shit-ton of all sorts of stuff.

as far as social influences go, man, I cannot deny the importance of the X-Files TV show.... they hit so many things big and small, and just really had folks question things. At the same time was the advent of this thing called the internet, so I could immedietly watch, read, or hear something, and then go clicky-clacky on the internet and come up with some answers... Soon my life was teeming with thoughts about the bilderbergers and the NWO, and the originators of the Illuminati, and the bohemian grove, and false flags and subcultural social plants and vote rigging and media control and financial control, and the IMF and the World Bank and how they engineer modern international serf-dom.

Oh, and aliens. Definitely the aliens.

Weed.

the 2000 election and then the first frames of video released from the pentagon security cameras that supposedly showed a plane striking the building.

Beyond 911, which was called out as fishy a few days after the events on national tv by a rather intrepid journalist who would later exile to Syria and build the voltairenetwork.org... and like many of my fellow frogmates, through the story of our brother. Plus he really is funny as fuck.

edit: gah i'm finding more that's translated this is great.

Reading the Octopus by Kenn Thomas and Jim Keith. The book really has opened my mind so much.

satoshi nakomoto

Howard Zinn. Clinton and Bush were bad enough, but realizing that it wasn't just bad eggs, that it was all the institutions, the system, etc, Zinn's writings really helped drive that home and open my eyes.

When I stopped watching television. That's all it took.

Have you seen 'They Live'? There is a reason the protagonist plans to take out the television broadcasting system...

Zeitgeist opened my eyes to our banking system and govt, but other books such as Confessions of an Economic Hitman, Creature from Jeckyll Island and Ishmael by Daniel Quinn.

Did someone come through here and downvote every single comment? Because I'm pretty sure they did.

Anti-male feminism made me realize there was one big lie.

Exposure to harmful pharmaceuticals made me realize there was another.

I then sought to find out what other big lies were out there.

Turns out everything is a big lie.

The question was, "what caused you to wake up?" Bitcoin was what woke me up. It caused me to read about the Federal Reserve and economics. Then, wondering what else I had wrong, I looked up Kennedy. Mind blown.

Obama is a Marxist. Look at Marxs 10 points, we have them in this government. You ever seen dreams from my real father?

Marx was also a pawn of the Rothschild/Illuminati cabal, who wrote his doctrine to get people to think they can be equal, but in actually, created an idea to fool people into totalitarian control.

Obama is a Marxist.

A Marxist with a love for big business?

:D

No worries.

Also, definitely read up on the Federal Reserve and the pressure that was put on Wilson to approve it.

You should read some Marx. I mean, actually read him. Not someone else's interpretation or analysis.

Then come back to this comment. You'll finally be able to understand the embarrassment we all feel for you right now.

Obama.is the furthest. Thing from a marxist

Yeah, maybe I was a little too pessimistic at the end there. But the process is what I was trying to emphasis and I am glad you read it.

It's something that is active, and the farther I go the more depressed I get (but maybe that's by design?) We all have our good days and bad, I guess. I've had more bad than good lately.

i highly doubt it, the key to power is money creation, bitcoin by design prevents centralized money creation so they would have to earn any bitcoins they would want to spend instead of just pulling it out of thin air infinitely. If it is such a deception, it is a beyond poorly thought out one that is going to cost them their throne.

TV is a PSYOP tool. Back when we were transitioning from analog to digital signals, the government gave away coupons for the digital converter boxes. But in the inner city, people didn't care enough to take their coupons to get the new Boxes. Somehow, the government was tracking the adoption to digital signals. The government hired contractors to literally go door to door and install those boxes for people in the inner city. I realized that Govt brainwashing starts with the TV.