While you're waiting for a repost, watch Sandyhoaxed 2 if you haven't seen it yet. Every minute of this video matters.

Thanks for sharing this. First time viewing it.

It's back up now, on front page but in case people end up here https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zv0SqjgKFkQ

Here's a torrent https://thepiratebay.se/torrent/11613087/We_Need_To_Talk_About_Sandy_Hook

Seriously: how can anybody buy this? I'll never understand how you self-professed "skeptics" manage to suspend every facet of disbelief for the sake of letting yourselves get carried away with these unsubstantiated theories. Sandy Hook was staged? An entire town? All those lives? They went to the trouble of calling all those "actors" in and then gave them nothing to do? Thousands of corroborating reports? Did anybody actually die? There are too many loose ends, anybody can see this. Obviously Adam Lanza was, in fact, an Agent of Change who had been groomed since puberty by the NWO, unbeknownst to even his family (did his mother find out? Is that why she was killed? Probably, yes). Was the intense conditioning and the duality of his repto-humanoid transformation due to NWO reprogramming the cause of his gloominess, aloofness, paranoia, antisocial behavior? I can link several sources proving his huge behavioral shifts after puberty. I guess my only question is: what did Nancy see? Sandy Hook was a true tragedy and 27 victims lost their lives there. Don't you see what a small price the lives of 26 children are to the NWO? You don't think they'll go to those lengths to push the globalization of their Zionist agenda on us all? Wake up people. This shit is real.

I'll never understand how you self-professed "skeptics" manage to suspend every facet of disbelief for the sake of letting yourselves get carried away with these unsubstantiated theories.

I ask the same of proponents of official narratives. it boggles the mind. at least we have something in common.

It wasn't an entire town. It was a few people and a lot of witnesses who saw nothing and people with their eyes closed.

Remember: the Manhattan Project involved upwards of 100000 people and that was kept a very good secret until it didn't matter anymore.

and that was kept a very good secret

Not really.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Office_of_Censorship#Censorship_of_the_atomic_bomb

Perhaps the worst press violation occurred in August 1944, when due to procedural errors a nationwide Mutual Network broadcast mentioned the military creating a weapon in Pasco, Washington involving atom splitting. The Office of Censorship asked all recordings of the broadcast to be destroyed... That was not the first request for voluntary censorship of atomic-related information. Price noted in comments to reporters after the end of censorship that some 20,000 news outlets had been delivered similar requests.

So...what you're saying is, there was a potential leak, but they still managed to keep it a secret?

20,000 potential leaks, which they were able to cap temporarily, by appealing to media patriotism, because there was a war on, and maintaining secrecy was clearly in national interests. Not the case with Sandy Hook. Of course, once the plan was executed, details came out the very next morning. Not the case with Sandy Hook, where two years on, there's little or no objective evidence to support the hoax theory.

There were 1,500 actual, investigated cases of information leaking. Not the case with Sandy Hook. And that's not even counting the very successful acquisition of data by foreign powers - no country has made any allegations about Sandy Hook.

tl;dr The Manhatten Project leaked like a rusty sieve. It's radically different from Sandy Hook, but actually provides good evidence for why Sandy Hook was NOT a government op.

Entire cities were getting their 'daily newspaper' edited to show the news multiple days later after the fact & edited for public safety for decades. People in general were none the wiser. Your theory is ridiculous. The general population was oblivious.

The media clearly wasn't "oblivious": I repeat, it took 20,000 gag orders, with official government sanction which is just not possible in a case like Sandy Hook. And so instead, of necessity, the conspiracy there now must extend to cover every single media outlet, without exception, that was present, from CNN to the Newtown Bee - because it would only take one to break ranks and the game would be up. Not one has. In fact, I do not know of a single person who was in Newtown that day who supports the hoax hypothesis. The entire town must be in on it!

Yep, there is a ridiculous theory here, that's for certain. But it's not mine.

goddamnit dude, i was with you til you said

Obviously Adam Lanza was, in fact, an Agent of Change

and then from that point I watched it unfold like a movie that i've seen a thousand times, just waiting for the words 'globalization' and 'zionist agenda' to be peppered in and a final "WAKE UP SHEEPLE"

I just can't get on board..everything before all of that though im with you on... the zionist agenda thing i hear a lot ..it is odd to me that so many people use similar phrases ehhh

I'm pretty sure that line was where his post went from honest disbelief in the fact that people believe this shit, and abruptly changed to sarcastic mocking.

An entire town? All those lives? They went to the trouble of calling all those "actors" in and then gave them nothing to do? T

I don't think this is the case. I think that if any of it is staged almost no one involved knows it.

This is partly why the drills are important. But if you read the Operations Northwoods document you will find plans in there in which people who appear involved in a conspiracy were actually being tricked by the conspirators. People who are involved don't always need to know it.

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I lived in the town adjacent to Newtown, Connecticut. I know people who use to babysit a few of the children who died. They were real and they had families.

How convenient that you appear now with you unprovable anecdote

Nice comment trying to catch emotional responses. Prove it.

Nice account u have. You dont comment much,why?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1%25_rule_%28Internet_culture%29

Umadddhahahahah

I never thought I would actually see someone on /r/conspiracy sink so low they would say a person who disagrees is a shill.

Is that what i said

It's directly implied. Like what else are you trying to imply?

lol

/r/conspiracy suddenly getting a massive hard-on for sources and evidence. Oh my days

Please don't take shots at the sub.

Why?

Rule #10.

If we're enforcing rule 10 can we also blow the dust off rule 11?

I'm kind of new here and still leaning the culture. If you see something go ahead and report it and leave a reason. I'll mske sure to check it out.

I'm not saying nobody died. when people die, especially kids, these sick fucks believe it increases the power of the satanic ritual. People can die in government orchestrated false flags, we already know that (911). crisis actors WERE used at sandy hook and this was a staged event. Newtown is the east coast hub for the church of satan. This guy above us is a fucking SHILL!

Here it is. Probably wont last long: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zv0SqjgKFkQ

thanks downloading now

David Choe gets away with his videos on Vid.me

https://vid.me/u/dvdasa

Maybe we should try uploading to that site.

put copies everywhere.

Spread it on people!

And it's gone.

" "We need to talk ..." This video is no longer available due to a copyright claim by Lenny Pozner."

How is that even possible?

We have a large problem.

If the video was bullshit.....it should be kept up online so people can LAUGH at it......mock the subject and make light that crazy people like us are bringing up absolutel bullshit, right?

If the video was relevant.....if the video had information that people may find ODD or suspicious because of the circumstances.......then there would be a reason to want to have it removed.....

Which is more likely in this day and age?

We have a problem.....or, we've always had a problem and now its time to reclaim our rights.

Thank you!

Still up as of now. This is incredible to say the least.

Probably wont last long

This video is just a collection of stuff from 10 YouTube channels. YouTube hasn't deleted it before.

This is new material.

Well, the silhouette narration is new, but almost everything in the video looks like rehashes of things that have been posted before. Most of it is easily debunked.

I did learn one new thing from the video. The envelope that had the DNA on it from a convicted offender in New York was not found at either crime scene. It was sent through the mail, postmarked in New York two days after the shooting. The envelope said it was from Peter Lanza, but it was a hoax. It was one thing that was pretty mysterious, but now it's not.

Here's the news report that's included in video: http://wtnh.com/2014/10/01/after-long-battle-for-access-sandy-hook-letter-offers-little/

The report of the incident, 1 day before hand on the Newton Bee website is also a huge red flag...

If you want me to believe this documentary is bunk, tell me what the claims are that are false. The documentary itself exposed the letter and spent very little time on it but presented a fuck ton of other claims. Can you debunk the entire documentary rather than cherry picking a claim that the documentary debunked itself?

Please start with the bing and google cache issue first then reveal why there is no evidence of almost 500 kids being evacuated and why the dead bodies were left in the school for a couple days. Then continue on with the claims the documentary presents. I eagerly await your post, I have a feeling it should be extremely long. Thank you kind redditor.

I don't have time to go into detail about everything today, because I have work to do, but some things are easily disposed of.

Sherrie QuestioningAll complains that she can't see any children being evacuated on the police dash cam tape. The fact that there are numerous sections blacked out on the tape wasn't a big enough clue for her. She's compares the timeline (provided by the Connecticut State Police) to the video tape (also provided by the Connecticut State Police) and finds that they don't match up. The solution is obvious: the camera on the clock was off by about 80 seconds. In fact, if you dig through the police reports, one of them says that, "The times reported on LT (MSGT) Michael Davis' dash cam video were found to be off by One (1) minute and twenty-one (21) seconds. Therefore one (1) minute and twenty-one (21) seconds needs to be added to the times reported." Two of the other dash cams were off by smaller amounts.

The dates that are reported on the Google search page are often wrong. Lots of people found examples at the time (December 2012). In fact, it's easy to reproduce. Just go to Google, search for some news that happened recently, then use the Search Tools on the search result page to search for a custom date range that ends before the event actually happened. You'll find lots of web pages that seemingly could see the future: https://www.google.com/search?q=Karageorge+Found+Dead&source=lnt&tbs=cdr%3A1%2Ccd_min%3A%2Ccd_max%3A11%2F25%2F2014&tbm=

So that date error isn't at all unusual.

The Bing cache date error shouldn't happen, but Microsoft has literally tens of thousands of servers for Bing, and sometimes Windows Time Service doesn't work.

According to police reports almost 500 kids were evacuated at 9:58am. Give or take a wrong clock by 1 or 2 minutes, is it conceivable to you that you can evacuate that many kids in less then a minute? The redacted video content was when a detective ran across the parking lot with a single kid. The other redacted content lasted less then a minute. You can't evacuate that many children in any time frame that has been presented even if the clocks were wrong by a minute.

The Windows Time Service link you conferred details a localized issue and does not refute any claim. Those are synchronization problems between a computer and internet time. Microsoft themselves issued a statement that the web crawler dates were correct.

Either way I don't believe the crawler issues are a smoking gun. But interesting anomalies. What else ya got?

According to police reports almost 500 kids were evacuated at 9:58am. Give or take a wrong clock by 1 or 2 minutes, is it conceivable to you that you can evacuate that many kids in less then a minute?

That's not what the police reports say. There are children and redacted adults crossing the parking lot from 9:56 to 10:22, at least. And the timeline only has a record of those who passed in front of the car. Since the sidewalk to the fire station was behind the car, most children probably went that way.

09:56:16 Officer Chapman carries _________________, across parking lot toward triage station. Officer Chapman was assisted by Newtown Lt Vanghele (white shirt). (Lt Davis’ video)

09:57:40 TFC McGeever runs with _____________ across the parking lot toward the Sandy Hook firehouse. (Lt Davis’ video)

09:58:35 Officer Smith carries ______________________, to the parking lot. Officer Smith puts them down and then runs with them to the Sandy Hook firehouse. (Lt Davis’ video)

09:59:48 TFC Kick drives _____________, teacher and gunshot victim, room 9, in his cruiser, to the triage station. (Lt Davis’ video)

10:00:45 Teachers __________, and student run across parking lot with TFC Keane #401, to the Sandy Hook firehouse. (Lt Davis’ video)

10:01:42 CSP Det Van Ness arrives on scene and assists TFC Keane with the evacuation of the students and teachers from SHES to the firehouse. (Lt Davis’ video)

10:03:29 TFC Benecchi escorts _________________ from SHES, across the parking lot to Detective Van Ness. The children were taken to the Sandy Hook firehouse. (Lt Davis’ video)

10:06:46 __________________ and the women who were in the PPT meeting in the conference room #9 ________________________________) meet up with TFC Keane in the parking lot and he escorts them across parking lot to Detective Van Ness, who takes them to the firehouse. They were escorted from SHES by TFC Benecchi. (Lt Davis’ video and parent video)

10:07:07 TFC Cournoyer escorts _________________________) from SHES, across the parking lot to the triage station. (Lt Davis’ video)

10:12:32 Det Van Ness escorts children across the parking lot toward the SH firehouse. The classroom could possibly be the students in the gym. (Lt Davis’ video)

10:22:17 Det Van Ness escorts ____________________________________) from SHES to the firehouse. (Lt Davis’ video)

Interesting, thanks for the reply. A lot of those instances were single students and teachers crossing the parking lot without enough redacted content in the vid to verify them (even taking into account the wrong clock). Also, it doesn't make sense to me why they would go in the opposite direction of the firehouse just to stay on the sidewalk (behind the dashcam). But I can't say they didn't.

I guess one of the biggest hurdles for me was the amount of children and staff that evacuated without any pictures or evidence. Just seems like a shitload of kids not to get a picture. Anyways, thanks for the post.

Damnit I didn't even get half way through it. Hope it gets put back up soon.

Same boat here. Paused it last night to go to sleep and now it's gone!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zv0SqjgKFkQ

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zv0SqjgKFkQ

Per their twitter

"Twas the mean characters at Vimeo, my lady. Now switching to backup, but will be a few hours. A mere intermission."

https://twitter.com/IMSolidarity

I support what they're doing. But..."my lady"...tipping intensifies. So does cringe factor.

EDIT: Fixed autocorrect word. My phone can control the temperature in the house and start my car from across the parking lot, but for some reason when I type "support" it thinks I mean "airbursts." Two steps forward...a thousand backwards...

Oh God the language.

jesus goddamnit what the fuck u were actually serious, dude i come here to maybe catch a glimpse of some real shit that's going down that people should be talking about , it is so predictably cringeworthy...

Lenny Pozner strikes again! He deals with his grief by spending his time verbally attacking and silencing anyone and everyone who has any questions that deviate from the official (and ever-changing) narrative.

This is the only time I'll ask for upvotes, I promise...

https://thepiratebay.se/torrent/11613087/We_Need_To_Talk_About_Sandy_Hook

A torrent for the film is up. If you have fast internets, seed!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zv0SqjgKFkQ

It's been so long since I've been in the loop with this stuff. I will seed. What is the best program for this right now?

uTorrent is a very easy to use and relatively lightweight client. Thanks for seeding my friend.

My pleasure.

Wow, that didn't take long.

Makes a person wonder what it could contain that would get it deleted so quickly

So much good information. I was nearly finished and I pray someone else will upload it.

it was a really good watch, sat through the full 2 hours and 40 minutes with my SO last night, really opened her eyes and mind.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zv0SqjgKFkQ

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zv0SqjgKFkQ

Or it's just a really good marketing strategy for the video creators. Now people REALLY want to see it.

Except it's not being sold as the creators/vid host has stated its for full disclosure and truth. No ads on the site either. Good try though.

I don't necessarily mean for profit...just for attention. I have no idea though. Like I already said in this thread, I got about halfway through last night and when I went to finish it today it was gone.

If you do it for personal reasons, its profit. Anyone who continues to dig up this story definitely wants the truth because the whole thing stinks. Frankly I don't contest it much because 1) there are bigger fish to fry 2) they are coming for your personally owned firearms whether you like it or not.

This doesn't mean I question it. One could question ANY big story heavily covered by the Mainstream Media, because by the time it reaches that point its become a life of its own. If its separated from reality, it can be manipulated. There was also the rumblings of propaganda/lies now being legal on news programs. So there you have it.

The main thing I'M concerned with is how modern conspiracy theory is mostly based off of what the Main Stream Media covers instead of back-alley forums and IRC rooms teeming with hackers or journalists that are sharing gathered intelligence, AKA true non-mainstream information that is legitimate, well researched, and thorough.

Unfortunately, "info" that reaches this far has two forms: true legit down to earth people who get wiped out before they can repeat their message enough times, either through threats, intimidation, professional sabotage, and "suicide". These seem like nice people with spooky and sudden changes in luck.

The second form is a media outlet that unfortunately has to make its money just like any other media company out there. Because they need to maintain viewership to retain cash flow to fund the operation of the "message," they have to pump out a 24 hour conspiracy news cycle and the "bar" for what they pass off as their original "info" craters. They lose credibility, they are attacked by the establishment as profiteers and fear mongers, and the world moves on. These are your infowars, your thecommonsenseblog, shtfplan, zero hedge, the list goes on.

So with Sandy Hook you get all the reactions you need, both from the mainstream and the independent media. The fact that the "sense" about "Sandy Hoaxers" is that they are all conspiratards just proves the point. For every 1 person a Sandy Hook video changes or convinces, it re-inforces 100 that the original story they heard is true. One could almost think the conspiracies are what gives the establishment its credibility.

Thanks for the perspective my friend.

I hadn't thought of it like

For every 1 person a Sandy Hook video changes or convinces, it re-inforces 100 that the original story they heard is true. One could almost think the conspiracies are what gives the establishment its credibility.

that before, but you're right.

I guess the hope is that some sort of tipping point is eventually reached and people, en masse, start calling bullshit.

the people doing the narration are hiding in shadow. they have been threatened physcially. they don't want attention, they want the truth to out and justice to prevail. they aren't 'ghoulish' at all.

Hiding in shadow... behind their YouTube user name, are you fucking kidding me? That's like hiding behind a letter with a return address.

Great vid. Keep an eye out and it will be reposted shortly (too much work was put in to have it vanish forever).

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zv0SqjgKFkQ

What video are you referring to?

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There was a thread created about the film shortly after its release.

http://www.reddit.com/r/conspiracy/comments/2nvvnm/we_need_to_talk_about_sandy_hook_independent/

Awesome, thank you.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zv0SqjgKFkQ

Posted this in the other thread but, Watch the video with Wolfgang halbig and then listen to a comparison of the 911 calls from columbine versus sandy hook and you'll be convinced it was all fake

Un fucking believable

Ladies and Gentlemen, I would like to offer a service for the holidays.

If you have missed this video and cannot find a copy, if you are interested in a hard copy on disc, I will provide one for you.

I have a habit of downloading these as soon as I can. I managed to get it in Mp4 format.

Please PM me if you would like your personal copy. I will try and arrange for shipping and assuming costs aren't friggin' crazy through the roof, I will cover them as a gift to you for the holidays! Win, win!

Information is free. The knowledge of what happened that day should be made available through to you at any time.

Think about what this means for you in your world, and in your life. If this information can be so easily taken away from you, imagine what they are able to hide when they aren't trying to trick you on camera.

This is critical that you see this information, and then....act on it. The time for action is now and forever. We must start now or this will never end.

it's still hosted at their site, media solidarity:

http://mediasolidarity.com/watch_video.html

Dat Illuminati eye

Do you really believe the Illuminati would leave fucking hints?

Why hint to your own crime? Almost all "hints" are BS because of this. Why the fuck would they leave a trace to them for no reason.

Almost all

All. There's no such thing as the illuminati lol

/r/montageparodies disagrees

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hAAlDoAtV7Y

Not surprised the nutter who went on a rampage a month ago or whatever has been swept under the rug by /r/conspiracy. Yet Sandy, Boston Marathons, The Navy shootings, that guy who was basically a Red Piller who killed women for not fucking him AKA people into Not Conspiracies....all false flags by big bad gubbermint

You mean the guy who claimed to be a "TI"?

The TI thing is a red herring, I think. Did you see the "witness" worked directly for a crisis pr company.

No I actually didn't look into this specific case too much to be honest, I just remember reading someone posting about the guy claiming to be a TI and member of TI forums or something like that and I think there is a lot more to the phenomenon than meets the eye.

TI are largely schizophrenics who latch on to this dangerous theory through the internet. The more they are mentally ill, the more they believe.

TIs may speak of hearing voices, but also see ridiculous "hints." They see people making gestures towards them to "trigger" them. On youtube you will find tons of videos of "TIs" videotaping people just standing around scratching their nose or other things.

I have also seen videos of them video taping normal glares of light that they claim are from a machine of some sort, or dust that is a shadows people.

Sadly these people mostly likely do not seek help because of their illness. I mean the mostly likely people to also be in on "it" is a therapist or doctor. This leads to things like that FSU shooting.

It's a really horrible mental illnesss.

I agree that schizophrenia is a horrible mental illness. What I question is whether every single "TI" falls in that category, especially with all of the research that's been done into psychotronic weapons, ELF, mind control, etc.

A lot of their stories seem to have parallels - can they all be making it up? This is the same sort of logic that created the false memory syndrome foundation to protect obvious pedophiles from persecution and convince people that hundreds of kids and therapists all conspired to lie about the crimes committed against them for some reason.

What I question is whether every single "TI" falls in that category

That's a reasonable conclusion to make.

I browse /r/conspiratard and am skeptical of all conspiracies. Things skeptics like me always say, why hasn't anyone come forward? (usually when a person "comes forward," its just someone writing BS on a blog site or just a unsubstantiated lie for attention)

But who's to say someone did try to come forward, but was called Schizophrenic and directed to a therapist. This is different because of how they might have evidence, but are viewed as delusional. (Saying all these people are following me, that they hear messages). The evidence might be actually real, but un-provable.

Either way at the moment it's speculation but an wonderfully terrible idea to think about.

Might have been. It's the one who said he had voices in his head and something about the government. Fairly low kill count. Very recent. Then /r/conspiracy huddled around in the comments (specifically one redditor) and said it was a psyop experiment from the government (micro speakers that you point into someones ear and it's like a laser...except for sound. It was an actual 60s experiment to0).

I was actually surprised his rampage wasn't really shared here. I mean, you have some experiment from the 60s, throw in the CIA and a little ambiguity here or there and bam....perfect conspiracy.

Perfect reason to help others disregard the effort.

Smooth. You go stick the one's that will end up crashing and burning. We're talking about Sandy hook right now, and how this video was taken down, obviously because of the content it brings.

ifl

"There was a 'conspiracy' on the way to a conspiracy."

Awesome, thank you.