The amount of shills out over these incidents is almost the biggest giveaway. They try so hard to dismiss anyone questioning the story that they reveal themselves.

Only the JIDF are that persistent and plentiful.

What about sheasie who cut and pasted the same diatribe 30+ times in the comments over the last few days?

/u/ct_warlock yet again standing up for more Zionist bullshit, while spreading FUD. Pardon me while I wipre the great surprise off my face.

Even if I was spreading FUD (which I'm not because you don't even know what it stands for seemingly), at least I'm not doing it by posting the same fucking comment 30 times in every thread I can find!

Sure you aren't.

Look away from Mossad/Zionist Israel. The Zionist owned media had nothing to do with this. -/u/ct_warlock

That's a frankly pathetic argument. I don't write a load of shit, and then put your name at the end.

This isn't the school yard, and I would hope you're capable of better responses than that.

You're transparent. Not worth the time of day 99 times out of 100.

You're 100% right about everything.

I have a feeling this is gonna /whoosh, Tchocky.

Can't be helped, man.

Can't be helped, man.

You mean you're contractually obliged to post shit here?

Gig's a gig. /s

Come on, you see how stupid the original post is, right? No matter what the facts/interpretations of the argument are, only those paid to do so would bother to type anything to the contrary.

It's fucking juvenile and those defending it look like idiots.

Youclaim to be skeptics but you've already decided Israel is behind this attack based on zero evidence. All you have is a statement by Netanyahu that could be interpreted in a dozen ways, and you automatically opt for the craziest one.

Here's a conspiracy: Perhaps you and your fellow travelers are JIDF. Your goal is to make it so opposition to Israeli policies appears to be founded on racism and illogical bias / hatred. When a person sees a dead Palestinian kid murdered by an Israeli soldier or suspects something fishy is going on when Israel says it wants peace while expanding settlements, they suspect they aren't getting the real story and come here or to places like it, and what do they see? Jews sank the Titanic, tangled up your Christmas lights, and are responsible for everything that has befallen you in life. Wow, it looks like the ADL / AIPAC were right after all. At best you're a useful idiot.

Nice try, Benjamin. I'm on to you.

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His soul is already gone for it.

Youclaim to be skeptics but you've already decided Israel is behind this attack based on zero evidence.

Welcome to /r/conspiracy !

When comments like yours are upvoted quite a bit, it indicates that there is a high number of people that are only here to play the alleged 'skeptic' but who really just make this sub worse.

No, it means that there are still a few normal people left who have not fallen into the "everything is a conspiracy and it's the rothschilds fault" circlejerk.

Disavowing government propaganda doesn't make you a skeptic when you lap up all other sorts bullshit in its place.

You people are actively discrediting any opposition to Israeli policies, and anyone who disagrees is a shill. You make anti-Zionism synonymous with neo-Nazi, and anyone who disagrees is a shill. You legitimize Likud propaganda, and anyone who disagrees is a shill.

When apartheid ends and they're exposed it's going to be in spite of people like you.

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JIDF.

greetings friend. meet in the break room for challah and coffee in 10?

How can they trust the veracity of the IDs, if the men were masked?

Is there further corobberating evidence?

Owner of the ID's is confused about how it got in the car. His friends say he was in school all day.

http://news.yahoo.com/charlie-hebdo-suspect-s-classmates-claim-he-was-in-school-during-attack-220344110.html

He was fingered with false planted information, like the other shooters who are dead.

how do we know who was under the masks?

Wonder what would have happened to him if he hadn't turned himself in.

how do we know who was under the masks?

Obvious, they were yelling "Alluha Akbar". If they wanted to pin this on muslim extremists, why would they yell that. /s

Why would they bring (and drop) their IDs yet wear masks?

The masked men looked fair skinned.

Can't say definitely yes or no to any of these, but will remark that looking for Israeli perfidy rarely disappoints.

I find it strange that everyone knows Mossad and other Israeli agencies and forces are some of the best, deepest cover, most advanced intelligence agencies in the history of the world. My Israeli friends love to brag about it, and from a historical perspective, I love to hear their stories.

Israel has a history on extreme action, and I'm not putting a value on that. It can be argued that none are justified, but can just as easily be argued that many or most or all are. I don't care about that aspect of the debate right now.

What bothers me is people that play coy with history and current reality, as if all Mossad ever did was wait for terrorists to attack and then try to stop them.

Is Israel behind the Paris attacks? I can't imagine that being true.

If you agree, make an actual point. There certainly seems to be standard delegitimization and obfuscation going on by accounts that are clearly here for that purpose.

I don't have much of a dog in the Israel/Palestine fight. Both sides do a ton of fucked up things.

But this is a sub about discussing conspiracies, and it's clear as day that in the last few months, but especially the last few days, this sub has been inundated with posters attempting to shift and control the debate.

Before you get your panties in a twist about me comparing people posting online with killing cartoonists, that's not the comparison I'm about to make in practical terms.

But attempting to limit and control the debate is ugly and dangerous, whether done by Muslim terrorists, the JIDF, the NSA, or paid corporate shills. And that's our current reality.

Israel attacked the United States in 1967

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USS_Liberty_incident

It's not exactly far fetched to suspect Israel and supporters as extremists as well.

I too have noticed. Seems like the same tactics used to make /r/worldnews what it is today.

Isn't everybody here a bot?

Was definitely wondering what Israel is doing during this. Very interesting links.

They would be involved either way. Muslim violence against the west is something they're always on like flies on honey. Doesn't necessarily mean they set it up, or that they didn't; they'd be doing what they're doing either way.

It actually funny, this sub is so mired in cognitive dissonance. One hand the mossad can plan this operation and make it so that no reputable outlet recognizes their hand and on another they are so careless, that a some amateur at a home computer can spot their fingerprint on the operation using publicly available news footage.

You cannot have it both ways. Why is it so hard to believe that some radicalized young men, usually fringe losers, who want an easy way to get purpose and fame (or infamy) would go out and do this? Its very much consistent with human behavior and patterns go back centuries. The mossad does not need to stage anything, there are plenty of losers in the islamic community who have shown themselves to be dumb enough buy into radical islam and hurt their own community' interests...

Every community has violent fringe elements... no need for false flags. Islam in particular, because its mainstream adherents raise their children to believe that women should obey them, that their religion is better coupled with the youth unemployment in Europe and the existing body of violent doctrine online, are particularly vulnerable.

When are people going to stop blaming 6 million Jews for the problems of 7.5 billion? Why, because its easier to drag out the elders of zion than to discuss income inequality, unemployment, globilzation and automation, decimation of the western middle class, assimilation vs multiculturalism, encroachment of western enlightenment ideals?

Its so much easier I guess, to state it dem zionist running the bilodenberg group stealing all the gold and running the world staging random false flag events to control the sheeple.... its so much easier to sit here and decry how blind the sheeple are, while corporations have more rights than you, our planet is heating up, our education system erodes... while the 0.1% literally runs off with everything including your and your children's futures?

And you know what, theses conspiracy theories are not so innocent. They impregnate the minds of the unstable and impressionable and then you get idiots like these acting on it... the arab communities, or the arab street as it is known, is really into these conspiracy theories.

Why not get politically active and tackle the real conspiracies threatening your future and mine? Why because it might mean meeting live humans and working with them for incremental change... working through a boring and unpleasant process that may or may not succeed? Or because you might actually have to logically reason a position and no associate your way to a conclusion ala glen beck.

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There are real conspiracies, just conspiracy theorists always rehash the same tired tropes and reflexively call every terrorist attack a zionist false flag... real conspiracies are more complex, more subtle but also less tight... the media is a market... they compete for a scoop, they published the snowden and manning files. They will report when they find things as they did with all the conspiracies you mentioned. Their analysis tends to be crap, biased and reflexive... but they do report the basic facts. Also glad you have friends and a girlfriend and maybe a job... glad the zionist have not taken that away from you...or is it bildenburg? or the illuminati? maybe its the rothchilds?

These conspiracy theories are literally rehashes of the same shit since elders of zion was published in the early 1900s or so by the russians.

its the target that was chosen, and the legal phrase 'cui bono'

Israeli editor taking picture at the crime scene.

Photo ids of the “suspected terrorists” also just happened to be found by an Israeli website.

hmmmm, fingerprints or somebody trying to pin the blame on them.

not to mention the body-armor clad 'director' on the roof with the video camera-person.

dude on roof apparently wearing body-armor

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There are still outlets like NPR and BBC who do investigative journalism. NYT, guardian, Washpo still do some as well.

Also, as much as RT is a government propoganda organ, if they even smelled false flag or cover by the west, especially given the current tepid state of Russia and NATO relations, they would be all over that in a heart beat... even before much evidence was in at all.

As the other stuff, you mentioned the beers, the friends and girlfriend with whom you discuss conspiracy stuff.

So much for France supporting the two-state solution.

One has nothing to do with the other.

Hey, we got attacked by some non-Palestine-related Muslims a month after we recognized Palestine. Clearly we shouldn't support Palestine because of this!

That makes no sense.

While I appreciate all the effort here, it kind of seems like a group of users here have immediately dismissed the Official Version™ (I am OK with this of course) and have immediately jumped on the Mossad/anti-Israel idea.

It is not a surprise, considering the amount of anti-Israel/Zionism/general Jew stuff you see this place bombarded with day in and day out.

Now, with that being said - I am not dismissing these alternative theories - as the seem at least more credible to the MSM's narrative - I want to caution all users and lurkers here that just because the Truth will likely be incompatible with what the MSM is propagating, does not mean we should lower our threshold of evidence we use to disprove MSM narratives (if evidence you first find seems to agree with your pre-conceived notions of the classic whodunnit research mentality).

Happy hunting today - it seems like Terror Thursday has bled into Friday and we'll be busy here once again.

It is not a surprise, considering the amount of anti-Israel/Zionism/general Jew stuff you see this place bombarded with day in and day out.

Give it a rest cry baby.

It's no surprise considering Israel has created a concentration camp full of Palestinians whom they periodically kill en masse.

See? everyone can do it!

I totally agree man. The US has one in Cuba, and several black sites all over the place.

I just want us all to be as unbiased as possible when dissecting the propaganda and bullshit today. This theory is entirely plausible and what I would bet on so far (especially compared to the Official Version™).

Peace.

My theory, for the time being, is that this is a false flag op by the French government. The purpose being to generate outrage and eliminate potential opposition to increased police powers of arrest and detention.

If there's an Israeli/Mossad connection, it's probably because they were brought in to assist the op. They're supposed to have a great deal of expertise in this sort of thing. I honestly don't see this as being some sort of retaliatory thing over French support for Palestinian independence.

nah if it was by the french gov they would have got away and disappeared without trace

I tend to agree. If you look into it from the perspective the Mossad is the equivalent of the US's Blackwater/Xe/Academi, and they just have different style.

I have get to see anything definitive as of yet, however.

www.jimstonefreelance.com

Pretty bang up job, definitely a mossad op.

Israeli editor taking picture at the crime scene.

That picture you linked is definitely a screenshot from that "police headshot" video. That twitter account has also been posting a lot of news updates/pics so how is that an "Israeli fingerprint".

Current Hostage situation just happens to be inside a kosher shop.

lmao. just in case they get hungry.

That is a LOT to be just some coinkidinks.

Dots connected!

What fingerprints? If Mossad is so slick and can carry out false flags on this scale, why would Bibi go out in public and actually say THIS? There is absolutely no connection between Mossad and the attacks in Paris. Yes, you are anti-semitic if you believe every single fucking problem in this world has to do with the Jews.

What about the fingerprints of Al Queda in Yemen, who repeatedly called for the death of one of the satirists at Charlie Hebdo?

Al Q is a CIA asset

This sub is crazy. Some of you have this assumption that Israeli spec ops and intelligence are made up of bionic james bond/hercules type people. It must be flattering to be a mossad agent with all this hype surrounding them.

Now we've just seen the videos of their covert ops with large staffs and plenty of misdirection as they showed the world in the Dubai assassination videos.

haha yea I recently discovered this sub and it's a gold mine of humor. It's probably fucking flattering for tiny Israel as they make it as this immense force that controls the entire universe with special agents everywhere.

Even if I was spreading FUD (which I'm not because you don't even know what it stands for seemingly), at least I'm not doing it by posting the same fucking comment 30 times in every thread I can find!

Now we've just seen the videos of their covert ops with large staffs and plenty of misdirection as they showed the world in the Dubai assassination videos.

haha yea I recently discovered this sub and it's a gold mine of humor. It's probably fucking flattering for tiny Israel as they make it as this immense force that controls the entire universe with special agents everywhere.