I'd respectfully decline their offer. There's nothing meeting with them can do for you besides satisfy your curiosity. There are several thousand ways that meeting with them can hurt you, however.

Anything you say can, and will, be used against you in a court of law. Nothing you say can, or will, be used for you in a court of law.

Assuming you have the privilege of being judged in a court of law and not a dark room somewhere redacted.

Hmm, depending on the level of fascism of their nation phase 2 could be being bundled into a van as a confirmed 'problem'...

That would have been phase 1 if they could have gotten away with it.

Probably right, yes.

Completely agree

Maybe they want to hire you to be a shill.

Jackpot!

I don't think there's ever a good reason to talk to LEOs just for fun. Wait until they have a warrant. Or contact a lawyer and ask their opinion. NEVER EVER go in to talk to LEOs unprepared and without representation. Nothing good can come from that, it leaves you very vulnerable.

Happened to me. Can conform. Fucking sucks

You mind describing what happened?

Still in legal shit so not gonna go into super detail.

In the military. Got buddy fucked for doing something involving a camera and a female. Dude who rated on me has sent me some fucked up shit but I never said anything because I abide by the bro code as long as nobody is getting hurt.

So I get back to my command. Immediately get pulled into an interigation with investigators. They tell me the whole line of its not that big of a deal, blah blah blah. So I talk just to get it over with.

They end up totally fucking me by what I said but no other evidence except what I sent the guy. Now I'm getting court martialed for mostly political reasons.

Damn bro military drama sounds harsh as fuck

It is. I had a similar situation except during my questioning I told my 1st Sergeant to mind his own fucking business. It got me arrested and my number for Staff Sergeant taken, but that's it. I've been a free man for years now. I'd never go back.

The military isn't like it used to be. I would never recommend it to anybody now.

I wouldn't either. I served before 9/11 as well as after and the difference is night and day.

When I was going through basic and they told me missionary position or nothing, I immediately regretted the decision. Sodomy is illegal according to UCMJ as well, I bet OP made a porno dogging his girl, shared it and it made its' way up the chain of command.

Good luck /u/DarthStem !

Negative. But they did remove the sodomy clause from the UCMJ when they repealed DADT.

It's nice to know that it's now actually legal for them to have their heads shoved so far up their own asses.

You have no idea. There is no standard for military justice. Just who your CO is, his political motivations and how he can use you as a political stepping stone by hanging you out to dry while he simultaneously backs up an E8 who had 14 counts of various degrees against him vice my 2 which are for the same thing and are less severe.

Rant over.

Sounds just like the corporate world.

Haha holy shit- letsgetmeta... Not to take away from the physical and mental abuse of the State literally owning you (IMO) ; but it is interesting how the politics and the psychology (macro/micro) of " personal growth " for most any significant positions of power within this contradictory socio-economic paradigm seem to be based on (mostly unspoken) principals of sociopathy , manipulation, coercion, violence and blackmail ect.

Why cant we each work within our communities and espouse things like mutal benefit, cooperation, collaboration and non-violence ; working together to enable eachother with Open Source, emulation encouragement with this awesome web2.0 style AMA-TIL-FAQ-troubleshooting culture. We all have unique interests and skills; we each have unlimited potential to build a better civilization. Okay, jusy saying OS CIV BLD COOPS should be a thing- we gotta just start operating reality with a different programing language, if that metaphore makes sense...

I just think geographic limitations are stupid; lets collaborate and crowd-source fund our way with alt currencies, OS collaboration, and chartered mutual benefit projects ! (bygod!!) Haha damn what a rant this turned out to be -- INDIVIDUATED UNITY should be our mantra.

Edit: wording and clarity

That's kinda not the same thing as a secret service investigation, though, is it? Sounds like one of those lessons learned...don't abuse other humans and don't videotape other humans abusing other humans...and if you somehow don't listen to those two little pieces of advice, don't for the love of $deity transmit those videos you took of other humans abusing other humans around the base...

No. Just don't talk to anybody associated with law enforcement without a lawyer. Learned my lesson. Trusted my command but they just ended up fucking me.

Yeah. There's very little way it can end well when someone has it out and you're prone. Lawyers are awful but having a few in the stable is always a good defense. :/

Bring a lawyer with you.

Or just say "no thanks".

They don't bother to ask if they have anything on you.

Don't talk to authorities without a lawyer.

True. Your lawyer will probably try to find out in advance what the secret service wants. Based on their response, your lawyer will advise you whether or not you should go to the meeting.

Regardless. Keep us posted. Please.

this , and do not even think twice about this being expensive

If you can not afford one - ask for one pro-bono - any representation is better than no representation

And do not open your mouth unless your lawyer tells you

Also see this "Dont Talk to Police"

to understand how important it is to keep your mouth shut if you have option to keep your mouth shut

^ THIS X 10,000!!! WATCH THAT VIDEO ^

Sorry about the emphasis, but seriously... there is a reason that they say "anything you say can and will be used against you in a court of law."

Whatever is going on, they're NOT looking out for YOUR interests.

They say that because the US is a free country where you are innocent until proven guilty, so it is literally for the exact opposite reason everyone in this retarded sub thinks.

hahahaha.

that is all.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rutherford_Institute

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Edit: I was mistaken. She is actually a Federal assistant DA in the federal court located RIGHT NEXT DOOR to the Secret Service office. This should be interesting...

I hope she's a GOOD friend of the family... if she is, she'll probably advise you to do exactly what everyone here has been saying - invoke your rights under the 5th Amendment and STFU...

Also, cops lie. Routinely. They will tell you that "so and so said this or accused you of that" to try to turn friends against one another.

Don't fall for it.

Cops are literally permitted to lie in order to get you to admit to anything. So they will always try and leverage anything and everything they can until they have nothing left, so say nothing.

Not just permitted to, they are trained to. They will be the friendliest cop you've ever met too. Sympathetic, helpful sounding; they actually make you want to help them, and they are trained to elicit this response in people in order to absolutely stab you in the back later. They're fucking you with each breath they take and you don't realize it until far later.

Just remember that the most common crime that people are prosecuted for in federal court is Lying to a federal agent. Usually, it is something very trivial, but they can prove that you were recorded saying x, y, or z to agent M. The prosecutor then says "Ladies and Gentleman of the jury, here we have documents showing that /u/dovakin422 clearly knew it was actually x, y, and zede. He lied to a federal agent, minimum 18 months in prison. Case closed.

Also, remember there are 5 types of spies: (1) Local spies; (2) inward spies; (3) converted spies; (4) doomed spies; (5) surviving spies.

Never let them manipulate you into becoming a doomed spy. Negotiate up your position if they make you an offer. Honestly, inward spy is the job you want to be put into. Never let them talk you into being a local spy without a high degree of compensation. Seriously, make yourself a political prostitute. You'll have a better life.

can you explain what the different spies are?

Local Spies are the local dopes assets for an operation. They perform essential duties to make an op work and act as cannon fodder when the shit gets real.

Inward Spies are the middle managers of the enemy's organizational structure who have been turned to work for your operational objectives.

Converted Spies are the double agents who've been caught, turned, and returned to work on your behalf and against their original masters.

Doomed or "Dead" Spies are those that are either intentionally or unintentionally exposed as spies to the enemy. They are often used to give credibility to disinformation and psychological warfare campaigns. Also, they are often used to increase the prestige and credibility of other spies that can use exposing a doomed spy to elevate his or her position within the enemy's ranks.

A Surviving Spy is any spy that succeeds in his or her mission while also living to fight another day (not a common expectation for spies as it turns out).

Make sure that the lawyer who accompanies you to the meeting brings a tape recorder. The user who points out the way in which the feds use the statute which prohibits lying to an agent of the federal government is absolutely correct, and there is a very high probability that anything you say to the agents will be used as grounds to charge you with an offense.

To add on to this, if OP does this he needs to make sure that taping the conversation without the knowledge of the SS isn't a crime by itself. Two party consent laws, and all that.

Video and audio record that shit. Be forward about one form of recording.

"For quality purposes, this conversation may be recorded."

Don't seek permission. Make it known, then move on. He surely will be recording as well.

NOTE(!) I am not a law practitioner. Take your full advice on this from your actual representative. Good luck.

P.S. don't get suicided. Good luck, friend. We're thinking about you.

It's highly likely you know someone who is applying for a position and they are looking for a character reference which the Secret Service, among other agencies, do extensively (and yes that includes acquaintances like neighbors). Most of the people here are paranoid morons... If you were in trouble they wouldn't take the situation so casually. Unless you're Muslim or tweeting threats against the president, nobody gives a fuck about your belief that 9/11 was an inside job.

Did you actually read OP's other posts in this thread, you moron?

Nope it's not my obligation to search through every chain to see if he commented and I suspect it wouldn't my mind that he's not in trouble even if I did. He should have put more information or linked to his comments with an edit in the post itself if he wanted to give more details rather than assume we all have the time to go on a manhunt for them. Since you apparently did read them, why don't you be of some use and say why you think otherwise? I can pretty much assure you based on personal experience that they don't suddenly think the poster is some enemy of the state because he's an anarcho-capitalist or believes in privacy rights. You're allowed to hold a multitude of "extremist" beliefs in the US and based on how the Secret Service is handling the situation it's almost certain that they want to talk to him about someone else.

OP, deliver updates pls. Unless you're temporarily unavailable due to being waterboarded and whatnot, that is...

If they are looking for a Reddit shill, tell them I am interested. What?

Yes, let them know I love Israeli GMO and know it was those mean old Muslims who attacked us for nothing but bombing the shit out of their countries. Also, I like vaccines.

Does the secret service work to prevent illegal torrenting of copyrighted material? I could imagine if you are torrenting presidential secrets, but if it's just the latest episode of Better Call Saul, why would the Secret service get involved?

but two of the lawyers I have spoken to think this is a possibility.

spoke to my family friend. She was also confused but seems to think it may have to do something with my work or with illegal torrenting.

I did attend a Restore the Fourth protest on 4th of July in 2013, though.

Dude, I asked a lot of questions. I asked if it was regarding me, what it is about, is it a criminal investigation, do I need an attorney, you name it

I do own some btc. A really small amount though.

You do realize that you've basically admitted to a crime on this thread...you talk too much. Watch this and STFU! Don't be afraid to take notes. NOTHING YOU SAY WILL HELP YOU IT WILL ONLY BE USED AGAINST YOU! STFU!

You've talked to a lawyer and they've stated that it may have something to do with illegal torrenting. This implies that in your private conversations you've admitted to engaging in illegal torrenting thus the lawyer believes it could have something to do with this not because the lawyer is just making up things but because the client had admitted to them they were engaged in the act and the lawyer has verified that this is a possible reason for the contact.

Don't need to win me over, tell it to the judge. Also you must not have watched that linked video. It's very important.

SS you say?

Why would the Secret Service be involved in discussing illegal torrenting? That's FBI jurisdiction. SS is more concerned with presidential safety, etc.

Don't talk mother fucker! Do not talk. Get a lawyer and if they need to ask you anything, the lawyer MUST be sitting right there. Get off social media for a while. I would stop putting your thoughts online dude. They will all be used against you.

The secret service are awesome. You should be fine. Seriously, they're patriots and professionals. All the ones I've worked with have been great.

If you have any problems here's a tip: tell them you have reason to believe that a prostitute drugged you with scopolamine like their own agents in Columbia. It is always best to build rapport based on shared experiences with your interviewers.

If you have any problems here's a tip: tell them you have reason to believe that a prostitute drugged you with scopolamine like their own agents in Columbia. It is always best to build rapport based on shared experiences with your interviewers.

Fucking hilarious!

XD

This response was awesome!

Do you have friends who are active in demonstrations or protests?

Terrorist Confirmed

Why not just say no thank you?

That's what they want you to think. Rest assured that, if they actually could, they'd have thrown the book at you already. He ain't your friend and he won't do you any favors, period.

but that is at his discretion

It's a trick. He has nothing on you and wants you to give him something.

Never, ever, fucking ever talk to the cops.

Why is that so hard for people to understand.

Seriously pull out the blank stare ... Don't talk to them

Can I make a goofy face?

Literally this. I've lefty friends and family flabergasted at how effective it is.

Fuck that noise, get a lawyer

Seems like he has no proof but wants to trick you into giving him some so he can arrest you. Lawyer up.

Lawyer up, and give them your lawyer's number. Implement your 5th amendment right. Don't say a damn word without your attorney.

Refuse to speak with them at all, even if they claim to have probable cause to question you.

If you honestly feel that you might be taken into custody for questioning then consult an attorney. Start learning your rights from here...

http://www.reddit.com/r/AmIFreeToGo/

lol... rights. That's cute.

During an "Investigation", the officer/agent will intentionally word questions in a way to get you to give up your rights, correct?

"You don't have anything illegal on your person or car right? Would you mind if I searched you car?"

The above is 2 questions in 1 .. and if you answer "NO" then the officer can assume you answered both questions.

If you know your rights then you can stop the officer in his tracks, or at the very least force him to follow the laws to get probable cause to legally search.

So ya ... If by "cute" you actually mean being informed of your rights and exercising them. It's cute.

You are assuming too much if you think I don't know my legal rights. I still think it's cute that you believe we actually have those rights, though. Have you ever been arrested? As soon as a cop decides he or she wants to, your rights will be disregarded without much effort.

Please educate me on exactly how a Cop/L.E.O. can legally take away your "right to remain silent".

I never said anything about cops following laws. They don't do that. I said that your legal rights won't protect you from police in America.

Bitch boy steve is a piggy

Look you're obviously in a pretty serious situation and I really can understand wanting to cooperate out of fear...just don't incriminate yourself or your loved ones.

If they want to fuck you with their book they're going to no matter what. There's no reason to help lube it up and spread eagle.

They're very, very convincing at playing benign. I've been on the receiving end of this, trust me you have NO idea you're being fucked until they're done fucking you.

Under no circumstances would I speak to them voluntarily or without legal representation if I were you. No fucking way.

Edit: Oh and should you be detained, remember that our lovely Supreme Court recently ruled that you must positively assert your 5th amendment rights or they can continue questioning you. It's not enough to simply say "no" when they ask you if you will talk to them. You have to actively invoke your Miranda rights: "I wish to exercise my right to remain silent and to have a lawyer present during any proceeding or questioning."

Whatever you do OP, do not volunteer any information at all.

He is not your friend, he does not want to help you. Please know this, and understand it.

Say nothing more to him of your own volition.

Are you in DC?

Do you own a firearm?

Why the hell does this matter, and why would you ask this?

I was wondering if it had to do with the SAFE act. Thanks for the down vote though.

There is zero potential benefit in talking to them.

If you do talk to them, be sure to record the interview.

If you don't record it, the only record of the event will be written by them and will say whatever they want it to say, irrespective of what actually happened.

Don't talk to them without a lawyer.

As person I'd say don't meet them.

As a Redditor, I say meet them up and report back here.

As a man-child, I say tell them to meet you at various locations and watch them wander around, trying to find you ...the hunted becomes the HUNTER

As a man-child, I say tell them to meet you at various locations and watch them wander around, trying to find you ...the hunted becomes the HUNTER

Then point them with a red laser from a rooftop and watch the surrounding blocks go into lockdown and SWAT teams swarming the buildings.

Actually that might not be such a good idea.

Is it confirmed that they were really SS? A phone call seems a bit amateurish. On the other hand, if it is SS, then they are probably monitoring you now to see what reaction they got from you by making that phone call to you. theres a few different scenarios that i get from this.

Agreed. The SS doesn't "call". They knock on your door.

OP obsessed that people are after him and someone that knows him is trolling.

I also agree. If an alphabet agency wants to talk to you (especially the SS) they come to you. If they were really interested in the OP or one of his associates, they wouldn't alert him with a phone call. He'd get a knock on the door.

I'm calling BS.

I promise this is not bullshit

Ok. I believe, you believe this is legit. The good thing here is that if it really was a SS agent that called you and asked you to come to them, they do not consider you a threat.

I would just chill, call them in the morning, and if it turns out to be real meet in a neutral environment. Like a coffee shop.

Edit: Never willingly walk into the vipers' den, and yes do bring a witness. Remember to arrive early.

i didnt mean to offend you, and i dont think you are BSing at all. all i was saying is that it has the potential to go awry, or worse, if it was someone impersonating SS in order to get to you.

if it really is them, then they probably want to talk to you about accidentally/unintentionally using a counterfeit note at a shop somewhere. it is weird that they did ring you.

Question: the number that they called you on, was it a blocked or private number?

It could be a prank by someone that knows you, and all they had to do was google where the nearest SS office was and put their number on private when they called you.

ok well, the next step is to ring the SS and ask them if it is one of their numbers.

By all means keep us updated and if you are not personally able to do that get a friend to report to us here as to your condition and whereabouts.

I looked through your comment history and see nothing that would interest them. Is it possibly a really shitty prank?

Some people pick up a gun and go kill brown people overseas and think of themselves as fighting for freedom. They are mistaken,

They are only fighting for corporate greed.

We here are the actual fighters for freedom, taking the ultimate chance the same as they are and we threaten no one in doing so.

All the best to you but keep in mind to keep us informed. That could be your best defense in a pinch

My guess it might be something like this.

http://youtu.be/Xjz-FzCVhXE?t=29s

They just want to scare you. Most likely you have not broken any laws at this point. But who knows what laws will be passed in the coming months. The feds are just getting accustomed to handling these cases, and eventually they can arrest people for "hate speech", "unlawful content" on the internet, etc.

Good luck. If you are unsure whether you have broken a law, lawyer up

Yes, I spoke to two FBI agents from the Atlanta Georgia area in 2003 after the Atlanta Journal-Constitution (a newspaper which had a total circulation of over 1/2 million) published a short letter I wrote questioning the wisdom of attacking a tiny country without cause.

One of them agent told me, "in war, we all have to be prepared to sacrifice some freedom for the security of our country."

That hit me like a ton of bricks; for two reasons: 1) I was under the lifelong impression that freedom was worth dying for and that was why soldiers died in wars, to defend that freedom and 2) I realized that if someone did follow through with those threats; say someone shot my cattle, burned my barn, or worse, much worse, I could not expect even the FBI to take my side, let alone the local constabulary or my neighbors.

That scared me badly. It was intended to.

I was alone. And that, more than anything, changed the direction of my life in the Spring 2003. I acted alone. And two years later, in October 2005, without even giving notice to my employer, I moved my family and farm here to Canada.

No regrets.

Hope you're enjoying your stay and our hospitality. Good move!

Thanks; Canada reminds me a lot of the America I was born and grew up in (I have lived in 6 Bible Belt Deep South states).

Canada's changing, and I think rapidly, but it's not yet a lost cause! :-)

Or lawyer down, whatever works best.

Where you ever in chat rooms / image board threads / etc. where anti government or sketchy things may have gone on? Your IP may just have been one of many just netted in hopes of finding someone else, even if you were just lurking.

If you truly don't think you've done something wrong, and you know you haven't crossed the line when being vocal, then you probably have nothing to fear and its probably someone else that you don't even realize is tied to you (again maybe just something someone in /r/Anarcho_Capitalism said once or something.

So what you're saying is, people still don't use VPN's?

it only takes once, or logging in from your phone, or something like that to give reddit a real ip. and reddit logs and keeps all of that.

Have you ever gotten a call from them before? Did this just come out of nowhere? I mean what happened? Did you just get a call out of nowhere w/someone that said "Uh yeah. Hello. This is blah blah blah from the secret service. We would like you to come down so we can talk to you about..."?

I mean...that's not something that happens to just anybody for no reason and out of the blue.

Do you know why you were called and are being summoned? Did they mention it?

What's going on exactly here?

20 minutes to life bro....20 minutes to life

His promises mean nothing. This is, at best, a fishing expedition.

Do not go without a lawyer. Even better, just blow him off. Nothing compels you to show up.

And you just said "okay"? I mean...you didn't ASK him: "Why? What's this about? What have I done to warrant this? What is the reason why I am being summoned?"

You just said "Okay."?

What?

When are you supposed to meet with them?

All he would say is that he has "been doing this for 18 and I don't think it's anything".

So basically, he called, said "We want to talk to you" and you didn't get anything out of him as to WHY? All you got was "I don't think it's anything"?

Wow.

I just wonder if this is as absolutely random as it totally seems by what you've mentioned here. I mean...on one level, it totally sounds like a random thing IF YOU DIDN'T DO ANYTHING...but, considering I think most people feel that the secret service doesn't just go randomly contacting people for questioning, it does seem that they have some sort of "extra" reason to be contacting you in particular.

I guess I'm just trying to assess what that reason might be.

EDIT: Anyone in your family/parents, siblings, etc that you think they might be going after? Any friends you think they might be going after and want to question you about?

Edit: I am a programmer at a financial analysis company for banks. Maybe something to do with that?

United States Secret Service

The U.S. Secret Service has two distinct areas of responsibility:

Financial Crimes, covering missions such as prevention and investigation of counterfeiting of U.S. currency and U.S. treasury securities, and investigation of major fraud.[3]

Protection, which entails ensuring the safety of current and former national leaders and their families, such as the President, past presidents, vice presidents, presidential candidates, visiting heads of state, and foreign embassies.

Seems unlikely that they would be interested in talking with regarding their Protection Services, so it could well be work related.

Edit: I am a programmer at a financial analysis company for banks. Maybe something to do with that?

Ahhh. Okay, well damn. That might have something to do with it then.

This doesn't relate to your call from the SS, but...

I am a programmer at a financial analysis company for banks. Maybe something to do with that?

Seriously, run like hell from that industry.

Bank executives see a financial programmer as little more than a glorified fall guy for when SHTF.

And here is why they want to talk to you.

Actually, the secret service's main role is investigating financial crimes. I still would be very cautious though.

Do you have any friends or family trying to get security clearance? Could be an interview on that person's qualifications...

FBI does clearance investigations, or a contracted company does.

oh shit. dude .. don't you know about all the bankers that are dying?

I doubt anyone would be able to discern details when on the receiving end of these... inquiries.

Depends on what the inquiries and the responses to the inquiries are.

Maybe it's a scammer claiming to be SS to lure you somewhere, trick you into telling them things about yourself, or is practicing to see what they can get people to do before trying a real scam?

They could have given you the secret service's actual contact information so you'd think the call was real, for one reason or another. (Note: they did ask to meet you at your home first before you refused.)

Not really sure how scammers would think that would help over giving a fake address, because if you went in the SS might wonder who was trying to impersonate them and might investigate. Then again, if you were given a fake address you could be more likely to bring it to their attention. And maybe they'd think that the SS would just think that someone working there called the wrong person and it would look like a mistake rather than someone trying to pull something? Yeah... it would be pretty ballsy to impersonate the SS in the first place, so that wouldn't seem too much of a stretch to try to make it look like an agent accidentally called the wrong person.

Well, even if it is really the SS, the situation is still something to be leery of. :P

Did your lawyer call the secret service's office to confirm with them if and who in the SS called you and all that?

Sounds like you were basically a name and a phone number if he doesn't know your background. Doesn't sound like a big deal, still would not go though.

A previous boyfriend of mine was called by a detective and he basically said the save thing. Had he went, he would have been arrested on the spot for a crime that he didn't commit. The charges were eventually dropped, but the warrant was already in effect at the time he was requested to talk.

so they lied to you about being from the secret service? That sounds really shady...

oh, i misinterpreted what you were saying about your DA friend.

I'm back to my original theory that they are investigating someone you know for a threat that was made.

NEVER - TALK - TO LAW ENFORCEMENT.

This isn't some hipster fad spawned by the internet on accident by punks that want to sound edgy. It is the most useful survival tool a citizen can deploy against police or other law enforcement agents these days: SILENCE. If they want a happy, chipper meeting with you, that's nice. They can get a warrant for that. You have rights. Use them. Do not even talk about the weather or the fucking superbowl with them. Doesn't matter Secret Service, local PD, FBI, whatever.

NEVER - TALK - TO LAW ENFORCEMENT.

Maybe it was /u/George_Tenet posing as the SS looking for a pal.

BUUUUUUUUUUUUURN!!!

Just say no. There is absolutely no way talking to them does you any good.

All of the suppositions here fall under more of an FBI AoR. USSS get involved in two kinds of cases and two only: counterfeit money operations, and threats to the president and his family.

I think there might be three options. Someone thinks OP is involved somehow in funny money, Someone thinks OP has expressed thoughts of violence towards their human charges (they have a LOT of leeway here), or that was not a secret service official you spoke to (perhaps another agency or 'other' identity intent on cashing in on a patsy for political coin.

Federal agencies operate out of the same buildings, and often share the same building infrastructure- depending on the size of the region in question. That often includes sharing first floor meeting rooms, so that one never really knows who they are dealing with at the department level.

Based on your post mentioning your relatives... Have you considered the idea someone you know is trying to join the secret service? They could very well be hoping to inquire about them? I can't imagine they'd call you in for an investigation. They love showing off their modded cars. Pulling up on a suspect is their favorite part of the job.

Only experience I had with service was a customer using fake 20's and they weren't waiting in an office. Surprisingly enough, the suspect was the brother of a fed.

That's my guess, it could be about fake money.

As your attorney, I advise you to rent a very fast car with no top. And you'll need the cocaine

careful... this is bat country.

Better call Saul!

Have them do an ask you anything on reedit.

They probably want to interview you about someone in your circle making what could be construed as a threat against the president.

I'm no lawyer, and the general rule of "anything you say canand will be used against you" is probably sound, but as far as I understand, the Secret Service is not in the habit of charging people who aren't guilty. I would personally feel comfortable interviewing with the Secret Service.

If you do feel that something YOU'VE said could be construed as a threat or if their line of questioning seems to be headed towards accusatory- you need to lawyer up.

Do they also investigate identity theft and credit card fraud?

Lawyer the fuck up.

Which nations secret service?

(Doesn't the US Secret Service officially apply to just the President's security?)

Edit:

The U.S. Secret Service has two distinct areas of responsibility:

Financial Crimes, covering missions such as prevention and investigation of counterfeiting of U.S. currency and U.S. treasury securities, and investigation of major fraud.[3]

Protection, which entails ensuring the safety of current and former national leaders and their families, such as the President, past presidents, vice presidents, presidential candidates, visiting heads of state, and foreign embassies.

If you are an American then I would assume it is something financial. You one of them whackadoo Rand Paul supporters son? Know any? Any that might have ... pissed you off in the past you might wanna tell them about?

He said he's an anacho-capitalist, very similar

Most likely, he unknowingly deposited a counterfeit at his bank or maybe local grocery store. Something to do with fake notes, I'm sure.

Or that someone he might have been associated with by a clueless third party did something stupid that the Secret Service don't actually think has anything to do with him and they are just politely asking him to go through some formalities to clear it all up.

Maybe they want to warm him that the president is planning to assassinate him.

Edit: If I wasn't on a government watch list, I certainly am now. It was nice knowin ya.

I would say that the obvious answer is do not go and do not say a word to them, unless required to.

New York? Bring a tape recorder with you, or use a smartphone app: http://www.dmlp.org/legal-guide/new-york-recording-law

I call BS. So BS so many ways. "Hi this is the secret service, uh... we'd like you to come to our em, "office", yes that's it! We have an office on MLK blvd next to the 7-11. Fuck off.

I don't think he was suggesting that it was not a real address. It might be, but how can you be sure the person on the phone was really SS.

I think that would be your best move. Call first.

Secret Service Mall Security, LLC.

Please do.

be careful could be a social engineering thing ... ik people who've had this done to them before ... told it was fbi and wasnt but they were trying to get info off them over the phone. I'd phone the offices and check if you're worried ... and also contact the EFF

Cool, see if they'll do an AMA.

Can confirm op's post. Reason : he's my brother and the asst DA is my girlfriend's mother.

You say you can confirm OP's story because...

he's my brother

This reason I get.

the asst DA is my girlfriend's mother.

Good for your girlfriend's mother... I guess? What does your girlfriend's mother have to do with this? Also, can you confirm that the person who called was actually a government agent?

If you look through the posts, op said he was getting legal advice/ assistance through a family friend that it's an assistant DA for a federal court near the ss office he is being asked to go to. On that note, no I can not at this time say without a doubt that the man who called him was ss but it does appear to be true as of yet and will likely soon be confirmed.

op said he was getting legal advice/ assistance through a family friend that it's an assistant DA for a federal court near the ss office he is being asked to go to.

Dude... Really? Where does Kevin Bacon fit in? OMG someone who knows someone, is working next to some building some random person said to go to.

Sounds to me like someone is fucking with you. If indeed any of this is legit to begin with.

As a person who values truth and honesty, I believe I owe you an apology for my initial reaction to your brother's post. I wish you well. Namaste.

Thank you good sir.

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i think she is onto you bro

Just turn up so you don't get fined.

If you're ex-military it might very well be part of a routine background check on someone you served with. At my office we get requests to meet with agents from various agencies all the time. Frequently it's "we heard so and so likes to drink pretty heavily".

That or John Malkovich is setting up as the fall guy.

Take a lawyer with you.

Never talk to cops

It honestly might have to do with counterfeit money. The Secret Service deals with that

Tell them their authority is a construct. They shit and jerk off just like the rest of us.

Make them come to you. You don't owe them anything and if they come to you then they are liable for anything they do.

I honestly have 0 idea what this could be about.

Let's see if we can help you figure it out.

Aside from being extremely vocal about my anti-government views

That's it.

If they ask why you are antigov, say you are a Republican.

Where did they say to meet them?

which office?

There is absolutely no upside for you. None.

If you are compelled, bring a lawyer.

Do you have directions to their secret !

It's most likely something to do with a fraud investigation. I tried to buy some brewing equipment off eBay ~8 months ago and it turned out to be part of an extensive fraud/theft ring. Talked to the SS, they told me what happened and that I probably wouldn't get my money back.

You're obviously a stoner. Tats, heavy metal, Ron Paul...they're probably just trying to scare you

Don't it can't do you good in anyway way. if you want to know more about why you should never talk the the cops or in your case the secret services look at this : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6wXkI4t7nuc

Don't even think of going there without a lawyer.

could be a prank call

RIPOP.

Sounds like you deposited a counterfeit into the bank, or something similar.

Everyone here is mad paranoid but I'm pretty sure it's something harmless. What I think it is is that you used counterfeit cash and they want to ask you how you acquired said money.

Do you do drugs? Sell even? You don't have to answer just ask yourself. My friend was a drug dealer and the secret service left a note saying they want a meeting. He bugged out but it was only that he had used counterfeit cash by chance and they wanted to know how he got it. He told them from selling drugs and they were on their way continuing to trace it.

It sounds odd that the secret service contacted you but they actually handle counterfeiting. They're under the department of homeland security and treasury.

So yeah you probably accidentally used counterfeit cash and they are tracing it. They give zero fucks if you sell drugs or whatever as long as you aren't involved in the counterfeiting.

Fuck 'em. Let them arrest you, if they've got anything to arrest you on ... but it's obvious they don't or they would already have done it. You don't owe them two minutes of your time.

Dont trust them

They don't call if you did something seriously wrong. They would be at your door.

Fact

Shh.. They're listening.

if they come to you, thats when you know you might be in trouble

You are against the government? TERRORIST

hey just thought about this.... bitcoins?

they could come from anywhere though, of course you have lost your keys :)

"Am i under arrest? Then I must be free to go. Is that illegal officer? What crime do you suspect me of committing? Dont you know its against the law to hold me up here if im not under arrest? Wheres your supervisor? Im video recording you to hold you accountable to your actions." That is how you approach every pigster in the United States. I love the bill of rights BITCH!

Tell them not without a lawyer present

If they called you to come to their office for a talk, that's probably all it is. If they thought you were a legit threat, you'd have been dragged out of your house by a SWAT team by now. No, what likely happened is you made some comment on the interwebz that somehow drew their attention, and now they are going to attempt to intimidate you into being a little less outspoken in your online activism.

I look forward to your post-interview report.

A phone call doesnt seem threatening... Then again it IS the SS . Id be a little nervous but more curious too

You must have said something ill of the fearless supreme emperor , may he forever reign, and may the Gods who have given birth to our emperor have mercy on your soul.

Enjoy your bath time with Cheney's old goons. I wish you a short stay in their "rehabilitation camp."

Dont forget they can always do this.. And this while being awesome. Would suck.

I'd just say sure and then not go

free speech may exist - but it doesn't mean you won't get noticed or targeted.

It wasn't the Secret Service. Someone is pulling your leg

I wouldnt go, but keep us updated

IT'S A TRAP!

Just curious as to how it went today.... Hopefully, you haven't been disappeared or anything!

You will NOT be meeting with them, but it really was the SS? I know you've been advised not to comment, but is this the gist of what you're saying? A simple yes or no will suffice.

The only way I would meet them would be at my attorney's office.

Smart. I believe I owe you an apology. My bad on doubting your initial post. Skepticism does have its faults at times. I wish you well, and please do post again if this develops into something more.

Good luck, friends. Glad you played this correctly. It can only benefit you. Trusting the federal fuzz is never in your best interest. Fuck the one time.

Looking forward to your update.

Good luck mate.

Well, good luck! And yikes about your comment history waiting for you at his office.

Any update!?

No update? Is OP in prison? Did they throw him in a hole and then throw the hole away?

This one reason they don't and will never know any of my person information. I always forget about the SS!

Commenting because I'm interested in updates.. If you survive.

Could be about using fake money. I knew someone who had this situation happen and it turns out they had been involved in distribution of fake money.

i think you're looking for /r/thathappened

i dont believe you

If you "really don't care" that anyone believes you, why are you (and your "brother") trying to convince others that you're telling the truth?

Why would I waste my time to come up with some bullshit like this?

To laugh at all the dumb asses who believe your story, and to distract people from real shit that's happening. That's the same reason media, governments, and corporations lie.

Damn just cooperate some, u have nothing to lose in the big picture. They just ask questions, if they pertain to comments u make on reddit, i see no reason to worry.

Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence, but on the bright side, if you haven't done anything wrong, then you have nothing to worry about ; )

/r/thathappened

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No they didn't.

They have your number but don't know where you live??

Sorry, doesn't work that way.

If the Secret Service wants to talk to you, you get a knock on the door, not a phone call.

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If they invited you, rather than detained you, that's a good sign.

That's what they want you to think. Rest assured that, if they actually could, they'd have thrown the book at you already. He ain't your friend and he won't do you any favors, period.

but that is at his discretion

It's a trick. He has nothing on you and wants you to give him something.

Never, ever, fucking ever talk to the cops.

Why is that so hard for people to understand.

Look you're obviously in a pretty serious situation and I really can understand wanting to cooperate out of fear...just don't incriminate yourself or your loved ones.

If they want to fuck you with their book they're going to no matter what. There's no reason to help lube it up and spread eagle.

Whatever you do OP, do not volunteer any information at all.

Fuck that noise, get a lawyer

Hmm, depending on the level of fascism of their nation phase 2 could be being bundled into a van as a confirmed 'problem'...

Lawyer up, and give them your lawyer's number. Implement your 5th amendment right. Don't say a damn word without your attorney.

Seems like he has no proof but wants to trick you into giving him some so he can arrest you. Lawyer up.

Refuse to speak with them at all, even if they claim to have probable cause to question you.

If you honestly feel that you might be taken into custody for questioning then consult an attorney. Start learning your rights from here...

http://www.reddit.com/r/AmIFreeToGo/

Jackpot!

Are you in DC?

They're very, very convincing at playing benign. I've been on the receiving end of this, trust me you have NO idea you're being fucked until they're done fucking you.

Under no circumstances would I speak to them voluntarily or without legal representation if I were you. No fucking way.

Edit: Oh and should you be detained, remember that our lovely Supreme Court recently ruled that you must positively assert your 5th amendment rights or they can continue questioning you. It's not enough to simply say "no" when they ask you if you will talk to them. You have to actively invoke your Miranda rights: "I wish to exercise my right to remain silent and to have a lawyer present during any proceeding or questioning."

Completely agree

He is not your friend, he does not want to help you. Please know this, and understand it.

Say nothing more to him of your own volition.

To add on to this, if OP does this he needs to make sure that taping the conversation without the knowledge of the SS isn't a crime by itself. Two party consent laws, and all that.

Anything you say can, and will, be used against you in a court of law. Nothing you say can, or will, be used for you in a court of law.

I promise this is not bullshit

Ok. I believe, you believe this is legit. The good thing here is that if it really was a SS agent that called you and asked you to come to them, they do not consider you a threat.

I would just chill, call them in the morning, and if it turns out to be real meet in a neutral environment. Like a coffee shop.

Edit: Never willingly walk into the vipers' den, and yes do bring a witness. Remember to arrive early.

Hope you're enjoying your stay and our hospitality. Good move!

Not just permitted to, they are trained to. They will be the friendliest cop you've ever met too. Sympathetic, helpful sounding; they actually make you want to help them, and they are trained to elicit this response in people in order to absolutely stab you in the back later. They're fucking you with each breath they take and you don't realize it until far later.