Mods, come on, sticky this already.

Agreed, but we need 3 mods to approve a sticky first.

Were I still a mod here, I would second (or third) this motion.

I've already asked the other mods.

For now the sidebar will link to this thread.

Good work OP, but I gotta stay away from some of the details here. Triggering.

Dude, thank you for the support on this story.

Was AFK on family duty....

+1

I second this.

thanks, excellent résumé, looks like this indeed touches the big ring

http://pastebin.com/pCtcpQ6G

This is trending on pastebin.com now.

that was a tough read, thanks

beyond strange

as Dieudonné puts it, "ass fucking little kids covered in feces while listening to wagner a cup of Champagne in hand" is just too out there for normal people to comprehend

Another entry in the file

Conspiracy theory sites often operate too much in the vein of news cycles.

We can't let this one go. We simply mustn't. Stories like these don't arrive often. This is an opportunity to rip out the roots right here and now. Keep showing support and follow the digging!

Agreed, let's keep trying to find out more.

I had a feeling there could be more to this than meets the eye.

That's why an invisible force is trying to silence this story from the internet.

Here are the first four 10 17 transcripts that were done by another forum (godlikeproductions) of the videos. I will leave them here. If someone takes the time to transcribe the other videos that would be welcomed. Just add them underneath this post.

• 231 Papa kills babies | Transcript | Video
• 235 Starbucks Pizza Express | Transcript | Video
• 236 SS and Cafcass | Transcript | Video
• 241 Please Tell the Truth | Transcript | Video
• 243 Appealing to A | Transcript | Video
• 299 Lots and Lots of sex (= 299 Sex on Wednesdays) | Transcript | Video
• 301 Distinguishing Marks (incomplete) | Transcript | Video
• 302 Distinguishing Marks | Transcript | Video
• 303 Killing babies | Transcript | Video
• 304 Tattoos | Transcript | Video
  
• 305 Baby skin shoes | Transcript | Video
• 306 Stars on shoes | Transcript | Video
• 31 Alisa – and James was in it | Transcript | Video
• 32 Naming children and Social Services | Transcript | Video
• 33 Supply of babies | Transcript | Video
• 34 Sweets, schools | Transcript | Video
• 09 Sep – School, women, Sheffield | Video
• 09 Sep – cutting heads off | Transcript | Video
• 09 Sep - Living room part 2 | [Video]()

14/02/2015 Transcript of Sept 09

F = Finbar A = Alisa

F: Don’t worry so the police that interviewed you told the other police? The, the police that were hurting you?

A: mmm (nods) My mum says that they didn’t interview my mum or Papa Ham(?) they only interviewed me and Gabriel when they should take like, like, the stamps and all kinds of stuff from my mum and Abraham for..

F: But the policeman that interviewed you yesterday has told the policeman…?

A: Why do you think there helping them?

F: (laughs) They’re not really helping them, well we know that, we know that, but it’s it’s part of the standard procedure you have to tell the police what’s happening.

A: Gabriel took…. the police to a place where we regularly go to do sex because my father does not have his own house

F: Right

A: He just goes and lives with Mr Hollings or Mrs Forsdyke

F: Right… but you found that house then yeah?

A: Uhuh

F: What about the babies skulls/ did you find the babies skulls?

A: No

F: You went searching for them? You didn't have a search warrant?

A: The police wanted to, to search in, they wanted to go to church today but… well Papa Ham he’s telling them to go tomorrow because tomorrows the sex day.

F: Well sooner its ha..the sooner we get them sorted out the better…..you know

A: The police, they don’t want to go tomorrow

F: What was the name of the priest? Father?

A: Father Paul

F: Was he a nasty piece of work?

A: (nods) and he’s fat

F: Fat as well? My goodness….very strange and Cafcass that’s another thing thats…?

A: Social Services, the GP, the Doctors…

F: They know about it?

A: Solicitor

F: They all in on it?

A: (nods head) uhuh

F: They do sex? they all do it? They all do sex? You’re talking about a major sex cult here, you know that? (Dog barks) oi shut up, that dogs nuts you know

A: That’s how she distracts, she’ll bark til we let her go too, that’s what we do when we, because we were eating here, she was barking and after mum was going to let her go off and Papa Ham said she's distracting no need to let her off the lead.

F: Oh, so you were saying your grandmothers in on it as well? Your father’s mother. Or?

A: Yes my father’s mother and my father’s grandmother.

F: They’re all in on it? Goodness me.

A: Yes well do you know papas family well RD’s family.

F: RD’s family.

A: They’ve got, they’ve got like black, black circles around the eyes like big patches.

F: Right.

A: Because of the sugar that’s what Abraham said.

F: Right yeah.

A: My mum knows because she saw them.

F: Mmm very strange.

A: And my mum said that when we were babies like that gra..my fath..well RD’s grandmother she was like she…she see mum ,mum. I remember mum saying that, that, that the grandmother she was like oooh look at that, look at that, like that when we were babies all the time at our private stuff.

F: Jesus, its all going to stop now.

A: That’s what papa ham said, he might, my father escape if he gets alerted.

F: RD, yeah yeah, he’s gonna run, they’re like, they’re gonna be like cockroaches scuttling for a rock to hide under. But there aint gonna be no rocks cos were gonna make sure there’s no rocks for them to hide under.

A: They’re like rabbits trying to get in a hole when there’s a fox.

F: Rabbits are nice little creatures. They are more like cockroaches than they’re like rabbits, you know….Very worrying that the police and the priests are in on this.

A: The good police, well ….. ….. friends don’t tell. And in fact is that one is called Zara she works with the ‘Clios’? you know this lady with the dark hair? Well shes got this kind of dark dark blue costume

F: Ok.

A: Yes, her partner Zara shes a fat lady shes got really red cheeks and shes actually one of them.

F: What do you mean partner? She’s a lesbian?

A: She works with her.

F: Oh right

A: And shes one of them. One of the paedophiles that’s why theyre not helping. We think that Steve and all the good police men they all do it.

F: They all do it?

A: That’s what we think.

F: Well it’s not good to think.

A: Well it’s not that we think that. Our Papa Ham says that he feels that…

F: He feels it? He just suspects, he suspects that theres something going on?

A: Because it’s like, if they did know they would have been in action they would have helped. Well they would have been in jail by now because they said on Monday, or Sunday or Monday they’ll get arrested.

F: Mad…What day is it today? Is it the 9th of September.

A: Today is now Tuesday.

F: Tuesday the 9th of September?

A: And I said to you yesterday they had to be arrested already?

F: So it’s Tuesday the 9th? Wait is it the 8th or the 9th?

A: No today is the 9th

F: Today is the 9th of September 2014

A: Saturday was the 8th

F: Saturday was the 8th, yeah yeah yeah yesterday was the 8th

A: No it was the 6th

F: Oh right

A: It was the 6th and now it’s the 9th.

F: So its 15;58. It’s almost 4 o’clock in the afternoon. 9th of September 2014. Very strange. We never believed, we never believed the children, we never believed .

A: And the children, there’s some children like doing it

F: Is there really?

A: Yes, er, Sophie and she’s a girl and she likes it. She’s got blonde hair.

F: How old is she.

A: The same age….she’s only 8 years old.

F: Wow, but she enjoys it?

A: Yes she likes it.

F: Is her parents into it as well?

A: Yes and she likes to do sex.

F: Right, and she’s 8 years old? That’s just….

A: And she gets a lot of sweets for this.

F: How much money do they get?

A: Oh a lot.

F: And do they charge for it as well? They charge… They charge for it as well don’t they?

A: Yes.

F: How much do they charge?

A: Like 1 thousand pounds, like, it looks like 1 thousand pounds a week they get or maybe 2. Maybe it’s a million pounds a week, like 50 pounds every single day in a whole year, 365 days.

F: Comes to a lot of money, yeah?

A: No that’s a lot of money like there’s no such thing as a number.

F: The number doesn’t mean anything, what you’re talking about these childrens suffering here you know.

A: Every year there’s, yes, 365 babies suffering every year, 1 a day.

F: 365, probably more if you multiply it by the rest of the country. This is… you remember? Its very strange……have you drank blood, have you drank blood?

A: Yes, tastes like metal

F: Tastes like metal….who knows

A: But I don’t like the taste

F: Well you’re vegetarian, you’re vegan

A: It’s a weird taste

F: They made you eat flesh as well? Babies flesh?

A: Yes flesh

F: Was it babies flesh?

A: Yes baby flesh and meat and normal animal flesh like chicken and beef

F: Right. Why do they cut the heads off the babies?

A: They hang it upside down and after this a big white bowl under. And after They cut, they don’t, don’t cut the head off so it falls on the floor they leave it on, they cut off the head but then it’s still on its just hanging on and the blood drips in. if there’s blood spilled on the floor or anything or blood splattered anywhere they get mops.

F: They don’t like to leave a mess.

A: They don’t want to no. No, no they would like to leave the mess but they know that just in case if maybe one of the children will tell a police or something.

F: Right. Well listen everything’s going to be alright. Everything’s gonna be alright it’s gonna change now.

A: But that’s why. That’s’ why the paper, when we had the school discos that’s why our sheet of paper said ‘no parents are allowed to be in the school disco’ but that was only the 1 page the only piece of paper that my mum had. Everyone else it didn’t have ‘parents are not allowed’ it says ‘parents are welcome to come’.

F: Because they are involed?

A: They are involved.

F: They’re involved.

A: And mother, she is not involved so it says ‘parents are not allowed’ the parents just have to drop off the child and go.

F: Wow.

A: That’s what kind of trick they is.

F: What about the secret language? What about the secret language that they use.

A: Yes.

F: Tell me about that.

A: They use it to, the teachers they use it, all of them use it.

F: What’s the secret language?

A: Acting.

F: Tell me? show me?

A: So as I said this aggressive move, that Yazzy(?) said was aggressive yesterday (pushes head and neck forwards).

F: Go on show me.

A: And this one, this one is like, um , like a fright one (arms held low with hands together in front of abdomen, fingers interlinked).

F: Right.

A: But this one (pulls head and neck back holding hands clasped to the chest) means like there’s, that someone my mum knows or like somebody who knows that who doesn't do it.

F: Somebody’s clocked? That’s right.

A: And that means that will alert them.

F: What about, what about.

A: Because yesterday the lady that we know she was one of them she was just walking, she was spying on us .

F: Ok.

A: Because that is her job to spy on us.

F: Right, right, right

A: She was spying in us and then after I was like, I was close about alerting her that I told I was really close I was like ‘Um Dad..’ but then I realised if I do I’ll actually get killed then

F: That’s right

A: And after I tried not to but I didn’t so I kept my hand like that (holds arms straight down) but I did do this one (chin tucked down arms extended down in front of body, fists clenched held in front near groin) which means touch.

F: Touch? What about the one where you wiggle your arse?

A: Yes that, that means touch quickly, like right this moment.

F: Well all them things are gonna to stop now.

A: But they’re all going to be took to court only if the police are helpful.

F: That’s right. Do you know how many children you have saved because of your bravery?

A: Two Hundred?

F: No but that’s only today that’s only, I mean in the future? If we can stop these people, You do realise that you've.

A: A lot

F: A lot

A: But they..no not two hundred, all schools. I don’t know how many teachers there are in, school children are in schools?

F: How many schools are involved?

A: Like all Hampstead ones all the Hampstead area, all.

F: How many of the priests are involved.

A: Highgate….Maybe about, maybe about twenty something like that but it’s a lot, lot of priests. It seems a lot but it’s not much.

F: What’s the name of the church?

A: Christ Church.

F: Hampstead?

A: Christ Church Primary School, that’s what our church…

F: And the name of the priest that’s involved?

A: Yes Father Paul.

F: Paul Who.

A: Father Paul, his names Father Paul we call him Father Paul.

F: Don’t know his second name no?

A: No. but his real name is Father Paul. Well it’s not his real name that’s what the children call him.

F: Is he a bad, does he hurt you?

A: Yes, a lot.

F: Right.

A: And Mr Morris, this big guy who is the child taker, not child taker, child carer.

F: Right.

A: Yes? Well he works so he sweeps up the floor in school. Well he a worker so he locks up the school gates. So when everyone has left he locks up the gates all kind of stuff like that. He’s got the keys to lock up the school.

F: Right.

A: That’s why.

F: And does Father Paul hurt the girls or the boys?

A: The girls he likes the girls.

F: He doesn’t like boys?

A: Well he does like boys but not like, as much as the girls because they’re much easier. They don’t scream a lot because there are more girls liking it than boys.

F: Right, quite bizarre, oh there’s mummy. Let’s go and see mummy.

Transcript of 302 distinguishing marks

Mother : Show, show

Gabriel : On here (points to where)

C: Where is the birthmark for Mrs Forsdyke please

Gabriel: Here, all down here and down her privates

C: And anything else, anything else that she's got there anything else you can remember?

Gabriel : Yeah she's got a little dot here (points)

C: A dot yeah? Where show me she got a dot

Gabriel : here

C : Show us

Gabriel : (pointing out) here, there (he points to inner top thigh)

C : So that's where she got a dot yeah? OK lovely. Anything else you would like to tell us about?

Gabriel : Yes and shes got pierced rings

C : Pierced rings?

Mother : All over

Gabriel : All over her privates and she's also got pierced rings on her lll on her privates on her lips.

C : Yeah

Gabriel : Yes.

C : OK and what abuse does she commit upon you?

Gabriel : She sticks a willy in my bottom, she touches my privates, she kicks my privates, she rubs until the white things come out she rubs it really nice, she flicks it really hard and she also erm like do that (hand gestures)

C : What does she do?

Gabriel : Um she like pushes it.

C : Who does that? The headmistress?

Gabriel : Yes really hard.

C : And what wily does she stick in you? A headmistress She's a lady she hasn't got a willy has she?

Gabriel : Yes she had, does a plastic one

C : Oh she has a plastic willy.

Gabriel : Yes

C : And how does she attatch it to herself?

Gabriel : With like a band

C : OK

Gabriel : Like um a trousers band.

C : OK Oh right a belt.

Gabriel and then they're like the shoes like this (sound effects)

C : Ohhh Velcro band ok well done so they tie... um Well done, is there anyone else you can think of that you would like to tell us about? Who has distinguishing marks?

Gabriel : Yes, um um Vanessa, she's got birthmarks.

C : Now who's Vanessa?

Gabriel : Vanessa's Clarkes Mum, Clarke is a boy in my class and he is my best best friend.

C : Oh and what's his mothers name Vanessa what?

Gabriel : Vanessa Patrick.

C : OK Thankyou

Gabriel : What was it .. Vanessa Fitzpatrick.

C : Oh Fitzpatrick ok carry on any marks distinguishing marks about her?

Gabriel : Yes she has um birthmarks on her boobs, boobies.

C : Yes

Gabriel : and also shes like really hairy her privates are really hairy, really hairy.

C : OK That's the lady you call Shepherds Bush...

~Gabriel : Yes

C : OK could you tell me more about Vanessa?

Gabriel : She's got hairy legs, she's got hairy boobies, she's got hairy arms, and um her hair is really wiggley and blonde

C : OK

Gabriel : And she's got white skin.

C : OK and any other distinguishing marks about her? apart from her boobies and hairy, any other distinguishing marks?

Gabriel : Yes she has like an um, she's got a verrucae here (points)

C : A wart?

Gabriel : No a verrucae

C : A Verrucae?

Gabriel : (grabs his foot and holds up) A Verrucae is what I have got here

C : ok and she's got one where?

Gabriel : On here between her two bones. (points to his hand)

C : OK anyone else you would like to tell us about?

Gabriel : Yes

C : Who has distinguishing marks yeah?

Gabriel : Yes like really strange marks and um Mr Hollings he has red dots all over his willy

C : Really?

Gabriel : yeah like really little

C : little red dots all over his willy and who is Mr Hollings

Gabriel : He is my Sisters Teacher When I was in year three Mr burnet used to be my teacher and Mr Hollings used to be her teacher but now I am moving to year four and now Mr Hollings is my teacher and now um my Sisters teacher is Mr Bennett

C : Thankyou and Mr Hollings has what on his private parts?

Gabriel : Like red dots

C : Just on his willy or anywhere else?

Gabriel : Mmmm yeah just a tiny like yeah here on his willy and like er here (points)

C : Thankyou very much, anybody else you would like to tell us about?

Gabriel : Yes

C : who

Gabriel : Mr Burnett he shaves himself

C : yeah?

Gabriel : Yeah willy yeah

C : and when you say shaves himself what can you see when he shaved it what is there to see?

Gabriel : willy and that's it

C : so he doesn't have any other marks any tattoos or anything?

Gabriel : YEAH he has tattoos

C : he has tattoos

Gabriel : tattoos and pierced rings

C : Really

Gabriel : ~yes and Kanye (?) my best friend he has a piercing on his willy on the end of his willy where it wees

C : Yeah?

Gabriel : Yeah and also on his balls, not on his balls but like down a bit

C : Really?

Gabriel : Yeah where your balls are

C : Very good

Gabriel : and and Mrs forsdyke really squashes my balls and it really hurts it hurts me all around here (points to his chest)

C : Can you tell me any other person that has distinguishing marks please?

Gabriel : yes Miss Unwin she um she got like, she got like a um like a tiny wart like um here (points to crutch) like a tiny wart there.

C : Has she? ok a tiny wart there.

Gabriel : yeah

C : And there is another lady apparently that has a big wart?

Gabriel : yes and there's another lady who has a wart um Mrs Marden she is the nurse teacher and she um got a wart here

C : and where else does she have a wart

Gabriel : on her privates right on her lips.

C : right on her lips?

Gabriel : yes

C : How big is wart? I have heard you mention it before

Gabriel : Its as big as a 5p cos I measured it

C : You measured it?

Gabriel : Yes

C : How did you get to measure it?

Gabriel : when she told me to er when I asked to measure it after the sex

C : After what sex?

Gabriel : After sticking the willy in my bottom and also after the licking

C : After the licking?

Gabriel : two yeah

C : Licking what were you licking?

Gabriel : the privates the middles

C : Who's privates were you licking?

Gabriel : Miss Mardens I asked her can I measure it and I measured it

C: And she committed sex acts on you as well?

Gabriel : yes

C : What sex acts did she commit?

Gabriel : she would stick a willy in my bottom and also sometimes people um stick um balls too of the willy in my bottom and when they come out it bleeds more than when they just stick the willy in it bleeds more

C : OK thankyou very much Gabriel

Transcript of "231 Papa kills babies"

Gabriel: We decided to stop touching other children...

Alisa & Gabriel: ...stop touching each other...

Gabriel: ...and stop touching ourselves.

Alisa: ...and face our urge.

Mr Christie: What else are you going to stop doing?

Alisa & Gabriel: We're going to stop touching ourselves.

C: What else are you going to stop?

Gabriel: We're going to stop killing babies.

Alisa: Stop killing babies. And we're going to face our fear and face our urge.

C: You're going to face your fear, because fear is what?

Alisa: Fear is the mind killer.

C: And who are you going to help us to catch?

Alisa & Gabriel: All the paedophiles.

Alisa: Papa, Mr Hollings, the school...

Mother: All the policemen, all the social services.

Alisa: All the social services, all Cafcass.

Gabriel: All the shopkeepers, all the cafes, all the pizza expresses.

C: Who did you mention just now?

Alisa: Cafcass

Gabriel: Caf-

C: Who's Cafcass?

Alisa: They're the people who work at Cafcass.

C: What is Cafcass?

Alisa: Cafcass is...

Gabriel: They work with children

Alisa: They work with the social services.

C: What did they do to you?

Alisa: They do sex. They touch each other. They touch me and Gabriel. They have plastic willies.

Gabriel: And they stick it in our bottom.

C: Who does? Who sticks it in your bottom?

Gabriel: The social services. Everybody does.

Alisa: Papa, Richy(?), Ella, all of them.

C: Who?

Gabriel: Everybody.

C: Does your mother do it?

Alisa & Gabriel: No.

C: Do I do it?

Alisa & Gabriel: No.

C: Who does it then?

Alisa & Gabriel: Papa, Mr Hollings...

Alisa: The school.

Mother: Parents...

Gabriel: My dad's family.

C: Tell me more people.

Alisa: Parents, policemen...

C: What about the teachers at school? Who are the main ones?

Alisa & Gabriel: Papa

Alisa: Mr Hollings, Mrs Forsdyke...

C: Who's Mrs Forsdyke?

Alisa: Mrs Forsdyke is the headteacher.

Gabriel: She's the headteacher of our school.

C: And what does she do?

Alisa: She does sex.

Gabriel: She does sex to us.

Alisa: She got a big [???] - she got a big birth mark with a big [???] on her privates.

C: What happens in the church?

Alisa: We do baby sacrifice and eat the baby.

C: What do you mean "sacrifice and eat the baby"?

Alisa: So we killed the baby and eat it, and drink the blood from it.

C: Is that true Gabriel?

Gabriel: Yes. And we dance with the skulls.

C: You what?

Alisa & Gabriel: We dance with the skulls

Alisa: ...in a church

C: What skulls?

Alisa: Baby skulls.

Gabriel: Skulls of the baby.

C: Pardon?

Alisa: Baby skulls.

Gabriel: The skulls of the baby.

C: You dance with the baby skulls?

Gabriel: Yes.

C: Who kills the babies?

Gabriel: Papa, me, and Alisa.

Alisa: Do not say my name!

C: Who kills the babies?

Alisa & Gabriel: Papa.

C: And what - he gets you to help him?

Alisa & Gabriel: Yes.

Alisa: He tells us to hold the hand with a knife, and then he holds his hand on our hand. So then he cuts the baby's head off. And he tips it upside down, and then we drain the blood.

Mother: And then what do they do?

Alisa: Then we cook it, and then we drink the blood. And then after [???] and dance with the skulls.

Transcript of 299 Lots and Lots of sex

C: Do you want to tell me about what happens on a Wednesday please?

Gabriel: Wednesday is the most busiest day of sex and er and today is Wednesday and um if I was right now in Wednesday in school they would have done lots and lots of sex to me and um Wednesday is the most sex day and the most busiest day and they do sex.

C: What else happens on a Wednesday?

Gabriel: We do lots and lots of sex and they give out lots of sweets , really much of sweets and this is also the day when they give us, when they give us lots of sweets and money too.

C: they give you money?

Gabriel: Yeah they have special days of money

C: Oh?

Gabriel: Yeah Wednesdays the day of money, they give you it for paying sex because it’s the most busiest sex day.

C: yes what when most people come?

Gabriel: Yes

C: How many people come?

Gabriel: Like a hundred like. Not all the parents, all parents cant come because there wont be not enough space. Well there can be all parents but they go erm they go in other houses, Mr Hollings house, they do go to their houses too and do sex too.

C: How many people abuse you on a Wednesday, on average.

Gabriel: Its Like a hundred

C: How many people abuse you

Gabriel: A hundred like, it’s the most most

C: How do they do sex to you, how do they abuse you?

Gabriel: They stick their willies in my bottom, they touch my privates sexually they kick my privates they um rub until white stuff comes out.

C: They rub your pen.. they rub your willy yeah?

Gabriel: Yes until the white stuff comes out

C: Really?

Gabriel: Yes

C: Who does that?

Gabriel: Mr Hollings, Papa, every.. Miss Mardon does it for sure, Mrs Shail, everybody does it.

C: They all do it to you? And where do you go? Does it all happen, does it all take place in the school?

Gabriel: No

C: where does it happen then?

Gabriel: It takes in school it takes in church it takes in other houses it takes in…

C: On a Wednesday you go to other houses?

Gabriel: Yeah

C: Really?

Gabriel: Yes

C: Ok, thank you very much.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wednesday

Transcript of 235 Starbucks Pizza Express

Gabriel : We also have a church our own big church and we use it for sex, eating babies, drinking babies blood, we kill, we sacrifice the babies we do sex to the babies we throw them, when we are dancing with the skulls after the babies are dead.

C : What skulls?

Gabriel : The babies skulls we put...

Mother : From before..

Gabriel : Yeah from before we put it on (gestures in a belt like way to his waist)

C : Where do the babies skulls come from?

Gabriel : They come from the baby

C : How do you get them from the babies?

Gabriel : We cut the babies head off we um, then we clean all the meat from the skulls, and then we um put all the meat and cook it, sometimes we roast it sometimes we roast it in an oven sometimes we cook it on a frying pan...

C : You tell me there is some restaurants...

Gabriel : Yeah and there's some restaurants; McDonalds in Hampstead, and East Finchley, and East Finchley is a, East Finchley is a swimming pool, and in East Finchley there is a swimming pool, and the whole um the whole of East Finchley does it, the boss does it, everybody does it.

C : Does what?

Gabriel : they do sex, eating babies and there's McDonalds there and they are also involved and there's Starbucks in there and they're also involved and there's sweet shops in there...

Mother : No no no don't rush ...You say McDonalds in Hampstead and East Finchley?

Gabriel : Yeah, yes

Mother : And you said Starbucks, Where which Starbucks?

Gabriel : Starbucks in Hampstead and oh no no not East Finchley in Hampstead.

C : So not ALL not all McDonalds are involved...

Gabriel : No.

C : and not all Starbucks ...

Gabriel : No.

C : Only the ones where ...

Gabriel : In Hampstead and East Finchley and also there's a ...

Mother : What about Belsize Park?

Gabriel : Yeah Belsize...no, (shakes head) no no they're not involved...

Mother : The Starbucks there do they do that or not?

Gabriel : (exclaims) YEAH THEY DO this is Pizza Express and Starbucks no just Pizza Express at Belsize Park and they do it (nods head)

Mother : and Starbucks does it.

Gabriel : Yes.

Gabriel :

Transcript of 305 Baby skin shoes

Gabriel : Well um so they also make shoes out of the skin of the babies skin.

Alisa : They got some special tool and they put it in the skin and like (gesturing with her hands) put it in the babies skin and they take it out..

Gabriel : Pull it off and then they stick it, cos the blood is kind of sticky and they stick it on the shoe

Alisa : and then they make they shoe and the sole and...

Gabriel : and the flip flops they stick it on the flip flops...

Alisa : They got flip flops and they do shoes, the ones that I like the ones I showed my Mum in the shoe shop in the Brent Cross, those ones, they have a big star and its baby skin and not like, its not like, you can do it coloured but its not like, its a bit see through though.

Mother : What the skin?

Alisa : Yes the skin.

C : OK

Alisa : Its got a big black star wait wait wait pause I have to go and draw this star picture on the shoe, the papers downstairs.

Transcript of 301 distinguishing marks

C : yeah, would you tell us about the marks or, any marks, distinguishing marks on the people who abused you at the school please?

Gabriel : Yes, Mrs Forsdyke she has a birth mark

C : Who is Mrs Forsdyke will you describe..

Gabriel : Mrs Forsdyke, she's the headteacher, she's the headmistress.

C: And whats the name of your school?

Gabriel: Christchurch Primary School in Hampstead.

C: Thankyou very much.

Gabriel : And also she has a birthmark all around...

C: Who are we talking about again?

Gabriel : Mrs Forsdyke

C : who is the ...

Gabriel : Head Teacher

C: OK

Gabriel : Of Christchurch Primary School and she has got a birthmark all around her privates and on her privates.

C : A Birthmark? What kind of birthmark did she have?

Gabriel: She has like a dark pink one

C : And where is it all where?

Gabriel : All around her privates and on her privates

C : On her inner thighs? On her inner thighs here (he is off camera but obviously pointing to a part of himself to Gabriel to confirm where the mark is)

Transcript of 32 Naming children and Social Services

C : Can you start again please, what's that when it's flashing? What does it mean when it's flashing?

Mother : Its still going.

C : It wasn't flashing before, start again, tell me more stuff, tell m tell me about this cult that you have been in.

Alisa : This cult is, because when the first time when ever we ever done it.

C : Did what?

Alisa : The first ever we saw Papa kill a baby and me and Gabriel done then when they done sex to me and Gabriel

C : who did sex to you?

Alisa : Papa and the others when we just came to school

C : Who are the others?

Alisa : Mr Hollings Miss For ...all the parents and the teachers and Papa.

C : Can you give me the names of some of these parents and teachers please?

Alisa : Laura, Sophie, Um Er

Mother : Sophias Mum?

Alisa : yeah Sophies Mum, Laura, Laura Hurlica

C : Give me their sirnames if you can...

Alisa : Laura Hurlica, Sophie Dicks, errr Jackie Cowell.

C : Who are the leaders of this cult?

Alisa : Papa...

C : and ...

Alisa : Papa ..

C : Who is Papa ?

Alisa : Papa is my Dad, his name is Ricky Dearman and he does and he does really um he is the boss of the whole whole thing.

C : Boss of what?

Alisa : Of the whole cult of the whole paedophile ring.

C : and what do they do...

Alisa : They do sex there they kill babies ...

C: Sex with who?

Alisa : They do sex to children they to sex to ever they do sex to each other.

C : and what are the babies for? Where do you get the babies?

Alisa : The babies? The social services do it unfortunately They get the babies from families who cant' look after the baby and who dont' want the baby.

C : Really?

Alisa : Yes sometimes ....

C : I find that a bit difficult to believe...

Alisa : Yes Richie, Ella ...

C : Richie who. .

Alisa : I dont' know his sirname...

Mother : The ones that came to our house...

Alisa : nods

C : He is your particular he is your social services person that helps you?

Alisa : Yes and Ella they are the lady who the first time, yes she came to our house in 47 Hollycroft Avenue

C : One second one second,

Great, thank you for this.

Transcript of 236 SS and Cafcass

Mother : Wait, wait wait, slowly ...don't rush

Gabriel : and Spike (?) The social service, um he sticks a plastic willy right inside my bottom and I can feel it on my belly and it was...

C : Who does this?

Gabriel : Spike the social service.

C : And what about this fella Richie from the social services?

Gabriel : and Richie there is a man called Richie and he is our social services...

C : Does he come to your school?

Gabriel : And he comes to our, yeah, he comes to our school yes that's true, he comes to our school and he does sex to us and he's um he knows Papa.

C: So that's on the social services?

Gabriel : yes and he comes also to the school.

C : He know's your Father? How does he know your Father

Gabriel : You know they met somehow when we wasn't with Papa they met and became better friends and better friends and better friends and better friends and also there's um a Cafcas a lady called um in um the whole building the whole building the building in...

Mother : Where, where?

Gabriel : Do you know that building we went to with Tim (?)

Mother : What do you remember from the building where is it located?

Gabriel : Where you went to back to home...

C : He doesn't remember

Mother : Yeah but where? You remember where we went next to what?

Gabriel : I don't remember next to what

C : It doesn't matter, you know you went to Cafcas yes?

Gabriel : Yeah we went to Cafcas and there is a lady...

C: What's the ladies name?

Gabriel : Holly and was a Cafcas lady...

C : any other ladies?

Gabriel : No

C : Just Holly?

Gabriel : Yes

C : Didn't you mention who...

Mother : Ella Ella

Gabriel : Ella Ella too yeah but she's the one with ...

Mother : Ella from Social Services no?

Gabriel : Yes

C and Mother : not from Cafcas.

Gabriel : No um from Cafcas.

C : and what did they do to you?

Gabriel : and they do sex to me in a building where like a big office and they ask me all kinds of personal questions, they ask me "does your Mum feed you well?" and we say yes, yes yes everything yes and then they ask...

Mother : They ask you many times didn't they?

Gabriel : Yeah yeah to make me say uh ye no she doesn't

C : They want you to say no, that your Mother doesn't feed you...

Gabriel : So we go and live with our Dad.

C : Ahhh they are attempting ...

Gabriel : but um er they would say "Ohhhhh look Daddies really nice he doesn't do no.....

C : So do you think your Father knows these people?

Gabriel : Yes, my Father knows Everybody who does the sex, but not your friend who was following you.

C : Your friend that talks about who was following you and your children said "hey Dad there is something wrong with that child (shakes his head) no he's not inv, I don't know him....

C : So your Father doesn't know that one

Gabriel : (shakes head) no.

C : So that's one person doesn't know, that we know who does it.

Gabriel : and there is also ..

Mother : Wait wait wait.

Transcript of 33 Supply of babies

Alisa : and then the Social Services they get babies from other families and like, say if the family cant' afford a baby so if they got a baby but they cant look after it or anything like that so...

C : Who do they give the baby to do they sell the baby or just give it?

Alisa : They sell, they don't just give them they sell them because they cant really ... sometimes they give, but they don't just give like borrow for like a rent, they give it away because sometimes families are poor so they can like in Tangier there were people who had baby children and they were really poor they couldn't afford food for them so they the family doesn't have money and they get a baby they sometimes sell it.

C : what do they do with the baby?

Alisa : They eat it, do sex, first...

C : How do they eat the baby?

Alisa : they cut...

C : Alive? Was the baby alive?

Alisa : Nope they inject it, to make it go to sleep and

C : and then...

Alisa : and then after Papa tells us to hold the knife and then he puts his big hand on he pushes it into the neck and cuts it and after, when its upside down so like he goes like that (gestures)

C : how does the baby come to be upside down?

Alisa : So you get a string hang it up, and its upside down when it is asleep

C : so you hang the baby upside down after the injection?

Alisa : ~Yes Miss Marden the nurse she injects it.

C : Miss Marden? Who is Miss Marden

Alisa : Miss Marden is a nurse at our school, she does the injecting, she pretends to be kind to my Mum and tries to like say be kind and then after, she's a nurse and she pretends to be kind to Mum and say if me and Gabriel, say if I hurt myself she pretends to be like really kind to us and like look after us and give us ice packs.

C : Is she a member of this cult?

Alisa : Yes

C : and what do they all, is there a special something that they wear?

Alisa : yes they wear these special kind of shoes they make us...

C : What shoes?

Alisa : Shoes, baby skin shoes, ~Daniel Felix and Max they...

C : Who are Daniel, Felix and Max?

Alisa : They work at a shoe shop Daniel and Felix...

C : So they are shoemakers?

Alisa : Yes

C : What shoe shop do they work at?

Alisa: Daniel and Felix they work in the ot centre near the tube station,

C : Where?

Alisa : Just inside the tube station...

C : In the tube station where? what tube station darling?

Alisa : OT Centre one its on the corner

Mother : Which tube station?

Alisa :I think its next to Waitrose...

Mother : Finchley Road Station

Alisa : Finchley Road Station

C : What the tube station?

Alisa : Yes yes, so when you come in there is this shop there and a shoe shop

C : Tell me what they do these fellows?

Alisa : Those fellows they take off the skin I don't know how ...

C : The skin off who?

Alisa : The skin off the baby the baby.

C : and they make shoes?

Alisa :Yes

C : and who wears these shoes?

Alisa : Papa ...everyone wears the shoes.

C : Everyone in the cult.

Alisa : yes

C : Thankyou one moment one moment.

Transcript of 34 Sweets, schools

Mother : Anything you want to tell us about? What do they do to children?

Gabriel : They hurt them they do sex to them then they pay sweeties for them and they we.....

Mother : What did they do to you

C : Sweeties ?

Gabriel : and they pay sweeties like for sex them bumper bags of sweets, and we have Mentos we have Snickers we have Mars we have M and M's

C : how do they know which ones ....don't look at me look at the camera, how do they know which ones are your favorite sweeties?

Gabriel : They know do you know how they know our favourite sweets? like um my sisters um My sister Alisa she is in year 4 and theres a man called Mr Hollins and they were learning about sweets and Sophie that's her best friend and then um she speaks to um she speaks to all her friend all her best friend about her favourite sweeties and then Mr Hollings goes near them and peeks at which sweet they like and they say "my favourite sweet is..." Mars and my favourite chocholate is .....and then Mr hollings hears and then other classes start to talk about their chocolate and their favourite sweets cos they go on about sweets and chocolate so then other classes start talking about sweets and chocolate they were saying they are really lucky and ...

C : Are there other schools or churches involved?

Gabriel : Theres other schools and churches involved

Mother : Which ones?

Gabriel : St Margarets

Mother : What is your school by the way?

Gabriel : Christchurch School Christchurch Primary School in Hampstead.

Mother : and then which other schools?

Gabriel : Newen does it um Hampstead Parochial the one with the tree sign in ~Hampstead, Hamstead Heath School and all the schools in Hampstead do it.and St Margarets does it and you know um the big Church, you know the big church in the big Church in Hampstead they do sex there and that's why they go all together and they do sex.

Transcript of 241 Please Tell the Truth

C : Keep saying it to her

Gabriel : Please tell the truth please, Alisa please just tell the truth, look they are not here yet ...They are not here look look nobody is touching me none when we are with Mum and Uncle, please tell the truth Alisa its really important If you wont tell the truth then you will get in big trouble yourself, like into deep troubles yourself so please tell the truth whatever Mum or Uncle says tell the truth ok alisa?

Transcript of 243 Appealing to Alisa

C : Say that again

Gabriel : Alisa Pappa's not here Alisa look where is he Alisa, Alisa where is Pappa? Look this is not Pappa, Alisa, Alisa that's not Pappa and you have to tell the truth please Alisa please you have to tell the truth look is this Pappa? Is this Ricky Dearman? No (shakes head) look they are Mum and Pappa Hemp and they are protecting you and you have to help them protect yourself and to protect them and to protect all of us, If the group lies we will start to get wrong, things will start to um, things will start to happen wrong and you might, you might break a glass you might hurt yourself...

C : What about the babies?

Gabriel : and you might get back your payment for the babies. You might get killed by somebody.

_FB777.... I'm confused about the interview vids... The last 2 vids with the girl on the google play drive ... https://drive.google.com/folderview?id=0Byzy22cCtwpdRXVZVUFEMzBnbm8&usp=sharing.... The last 2 vids seem like she said it was all a lie?

Yes, that is right. There are 19 videos of the kids telling a consistent story. And by the police you have on two days the kids telling the same story. Then they went to a special doctor and six days later they retracted the whole story and had an excuse for every question the police man asked and papa Ham (Abraham) became the bad guy.

1. Why and how did they get the kids simultaneously to retract the story if they said before that only pain and punishment would help to say otherwise?
2. Why was the police man already aware of the changed story?
3. How come the kids had both nightmares in foster care?
4. How come Alisa knew police men by name and do those police men exist who she said before that they were part of the occult?
5. How come the Zorro narrative does not add up at all?
6. Why would the kids make up so much people involved if Abraham was trying to frame only a few?
7. Why did they end the interview after they got the first retraction out of them?
8. Why is there no footage of the transition between 11th and 17th?

This is getting stranger by the minute. The only way we will know if this is true or not is by examining the privates of the teachers by trusted entities and have a criminal investigation started. We have two contradicting stories and only one can be true.

Great questions. Did we get a transcript of the police videos? Or better yet, a copy of them? Thank you for your work here.

Transcript of 303 Killing babies

C: Would you tell us what happens in the church next please Gabriel?

Gabriel : Yes, the church um they um they um they cook the baby they do sex there they um and they also have secret rooms there...

C : They cook the baby?

Gabriel : Yeah and they have a secret kitchen

C : They cook the babies, they have secret rooms and secret kitchen?

Gabriel : Yes

C : And what goes on there? You say they cook the baby?

Gabriel : Yes

C : Is the baby alive when they cook the baby?

Gabriel : No its dead, they kill it.

C : Who kills the baby?

Gabriel : Me and er my Dad kills the baby, Other other adults kill the baby, the fathers...

C: When you say me, how do you mean me?

Gabriel : Papa helped me

C : Ahh your Father helped you

Gabriel : Yeah he never, I never did it on my own

C : OK and who are the other people that kill the babies?

Gabriel : There's other parent um father, the father from um Clarke's Father kills babies, he is really strong,

C : Clarke's Father killed the babies?

Gabriel : Yeah and Leons'

C : and Leons' Father?

Gabriel : Yes.

C : Who else? Can you tell me any of the other Fathers that kill babies?

Gabriel : Yes (nods head) Mia's ...Mias cos um Mias' Father kills babies, Ella's Father kills babies, Max's Father kills babies

Mother says something I cant make out

Gabriel : Yeah and also Ella from my class, also Ella from my class also Ella from Alisa's class, no Ella from Alisa's class already moved she's not there anymore she moved to Fitsjohns (sp?) because she likes lives the sex and she recently became star of the show because our Dad is the boss, Ella wanted to be star of the show in Fitsjohns

C : So they are doing all of this all of the abuse is happening at Fitsjohns School as well?

Gabriel : Yeah

C : Are there any other schools this is happening in?

Gabriel : Yes Hampstead Parochial the one with the tree sign.

C : Hampstead Parochial.

Gabriel : and the one with the words.

C : What school is that? The one with the words?

Gabriel : like attatched words like...

C : Is that Hampstead Parochial or another school?

Gabriel : Other school

C : and you don't know what its called?

Gabriel : no (shakes head)

C : and how many schools...

Gabriel : and also the schoolwhich is behind like, do you know that on umm where Mias house is? (looks off camera) Do you know that school where Mias' house is

Mother : Where Mias' house is?

Gabriel : Yeah, yeah its um like in Hampstead do you know that back school

Mother : hmmm no ...

C : How many schools have you been taken to? To be abused...

Mother : ~Hampstead Parochial?

Gabriel : No that's not Hampstead Parochial.

Mother : UCL?

Gabriel : No, do you know the one with, do you know the school which is hidden in like the cinema that cinema ...

Mother : Yes, yes that is Hampstead Parochial

Gabriel : Yeah and...

Mother : It is also a Christian Church, that is the Parochial School I wrote it down.

C : Thankyou very much.

Transcript of 304 Tattoos

C : Hi again Gabriel, sorry to disturb you while you're having your breakfast.

Gabriel : (nods) yes

C : We would like you to tell us about the tattoos please, can you tell us in your own words please

Gabriel : All the 20 special children have the tattoos except for me and myself (points to himself) no for except for myself and my Sister cos my Mum isn't a member of the Cult (shakes his head)

C : OK anyone else have tattoos?

Gabriel : Yes the 20 special children all have tattoos and also all the teachers have tattoos Mr Vanone (?) He have tattoos all over on his arms and Mr Good (Gudge?) Also go tattoos on his arms and also they have it on their pussies, privates

C : and ..

Gabriel : and also the teachers have it but not all parents (shaking his head)~

C : So all the teachers have tattoos on their privates you say?

Gabriel : Yeah

C : and what type of tattoos do they have ..are these the tattoos ...

Gabriel : (interrupts) they are devil tattoos.

C : Pardon what type of tattoos?

Gabriel : Devil and monster tattoos.

C : On their privates?

Gabriel : Yes

C : They all have them?

Gabriel : Yes

C : All of the teachers in Christchurch Primary School have devil tattoos on their private parts?

Gabriel : (nodding) Yes yes, no also monster ones, yeah the devil is in the middle but theres the monster ones and also they have pierced rings.

C : OK Have you are these the tattoos that you have drawn us pictures of?

Gabriel : (nodding) Yeah

C : You have drawn some pictures of tattoos are these the tattoos you are talking about?

Gabriel : Yes

C : Does anybody else (volume goes right down)

Gabriel : Vanessa, Vanessa

C : (again volume so low I cant really transcribe) I believe he says something about all 400 parents, 399 parents have tattoos.

Transcript of 31 A and James was in it

Mother : Can you tell me what you said again please?

Gabriel : You have to have a little bit of fear to face it and then your fear will be gone.

C : So you feel a little bit of fear? Why do you feel a bit of fear? Tell Mama look at the camera and tell Mama.

Gabriel : I feel a bit of fear cos its really dangerous and I um I ate babies.

Mother : Look at me

Gabriel : And I ate babies before and I feel really weak about it, really weak about it and not strong, but when I eat hemp I feel really strong.

C : Look at the camera

Gabriel : I feel when I eat hemp I feel really strong and really really ...

Mother : When you eat hemp?

Gabriel : Yes and I feel really powerful but when I eat meat I feel really really weak when I eat ....

Alisa : The first time we ever ever done it with Papa the first time when we were little done it we had fear so much.

C : When you done what?

Alisa : when we kill the baby first time and we knew about it ....

Mother : You killed the baby? You yourself?

Alisa : With with Papa, Pappa holded my hand he helped me, but he told me to cut the babys head off but he forced me to I couldn't so he held my hands yes.

Mother : Like what show me.

Alisa : This is my hand on the knife (she gestures) he put his big hand on and then he pushed my hand and then we cut off the head like that, and then when we got older and we got used to more used to it, but then we understood, but then my Mama , when my Mama found out about it she understood, she told me that that its wrong to do this kind of stuff so then I, me and Gabriel we had still been used to it but then we had understood that it is wrong.

Mother : and so what your decision is?

Alisa : and then after our decision we still had a lot of fear in our head but the4n when we read a book called Dune it said that fear is the mind killer so when we heard that we thought that it was not really true but then after there was a man called Abraham who came to help us, he said that it IS true that fear IS the mind killer and then after and then he said we have to face our fear. So then after we faced our fear

Mother : Look at the Camera the camera is here....

Alisa : And then we, and then we after ...

Mother : Camera is here (points)

Alisa : and then after we faced, we faced our fear.

Mother : So whats you decided?

Alisa : and we decided that we shall stop, we shall stop killing babies and we will stop doing sex its going to just be pointless and we just have theres just going to be hae to go to jail and just to go back.

Mother : So what we gonna do we gonna protect other babies and children huh? and those children who are involved those children that have been forced to be involved right?

BOTH KIDS : Yes

Gabriel : and when you face your fear ...

Alisa : and James was in it...

Gabriel : and when you face the fear you get less fear on you.

Transcript of 306 Stars on shoes

Gabriel : Um carving skin off and also um like Alex he is like really good...

C : At carving the skin from where?

Gabriel : From the baby and the, when the baby is dead.

C : When the bab, these are when the baby is dead, and these are the baby skin shoes we are talking about?

Gabriel : Yes

C : and who wears them and who keeps them and where do they keep them?

Gabriel : Well other, the parents keep them in ordinary cupboards and,

C : What the dead baby skin shoes they everybody keeps their own shoes?

Gabriel : Yeah.

C : and who keeps yours?

Gabriel : Mr Hollings a teacher My Sisters teacher when she was in year 3

Mother : He keeps them for you?

C : He keeps your shoes for you?

Gabriel : Yes.

C : Right OK

They draw a star of David

C : There is a star on the shoes you said? Could you draw a picture of the star for me? Where was the star on the shoes you say the black star?

Gabriel : On the sides just here...

C : On the sides yeah...

Gabriel : Just here on an angle.

C : OK One moment ....So this is the star? and its upside down is it?

Gabriel : Um yeah its like this.

The Friar got a small dust up. I'll be damned.

Interesting that Kevin Annett isn't helping/involved with this case.

The Hampstead teacher link is 404. Have saved your post. Thanks for the update.

Good work here!

I'm still looking to see Kevin Annett link... I'll check back if I find anything.

The gaze on that judge...

if this doesn't deserve rioting in the streets......what does?

SO true it's scary

couldn't agree more

It has been suggested that this is all just a lie. The mother wants to lie her way into custody of the children. So why did she involve the school, the teachers, the McDonalds worker, and all the rest when this is only to target the father? Apparently the children have been found with signs of sexual abuse. The best she really could have done if she were trying to construct a lie would, clearly, be to accuse the father of abuse, back up with the marks, and leave it at that. She would not have needed to say any more. I honestly don't see how "accuse the teachers, too" would ever come up in her mind if she were just targeting the husband. What cause would she have to remove her son from the school?

Why would the mother publish hoax videos about teacher's birthmarks? What's up with that? It would be so easy for a teacher to just show everyone that there's no Satan down there and discount the whole tale. Why even publish that, under any circumstance, unless it is honest truth?

It would be so easy for a teacher to just show everyone that there's no Satan down there and discount the whole tale.

I'm okay with not setting the precedent of school officials disrobing every time a parent wants to construct a tale. This will either make its way through the courts or it won't. I'm betting on "won't" because it sounds absurd.

Sorry, I just don't have the confirmation bias to invest in this...

As expected, the MSM is silent... However, even the alternative media coverage is disappointing. Below is a list of Alexa Top 100k sites reporting the story so far (chronological order):

• Vigilant Citizen - Alexa Rank: 41,260
• Heavy.com - Alexa Rank: 3,746
• Sign of the Times - Alexa Rank: 24,938
• David Icke - Alexa Rank: 18,213
• Infowars - Alexa Rank: 3,440
• Anon HQ - Alexa Rank: 9,514

Any more? I have not included any BeforeItsNews articles on purpose. Other notable mentions:

• UK Column (as posted by Op), Youtube account now terminated.
• Local Hampstead Newspaper

UK Column Youtube account now back online, the video discussing these events has been removed. https://www.youtube.com/user/ukcolumn

This infuriates me to the core, I really wish I could get revenge on these pieces of shit who do this to innocent children who are helpless. I have been saying this for the longest, there are and always will be pedophile rings in high levels of government, Hollywood, churches etc. If we could somehow track these fuckers down and make them pay I would gladly risk my life to make sure they suffer and pay for what they have done. Fuck I am pissed!!!

What's going to happen after we get to the truth? This is not a secret and they are to big and powerful to be brought to light. I'm not q violent person really but this just does it for me, especially knowing that these people will always be protected from any type of punishment ever.

I'm watching the police videos and am completely sickened. If you want to see what a child behaves likes after she's been coached, the last 2 videos where Alisa recants her story it is very obvious. She can't keep her story straight as to why she made up those lies about cutting babies heads off. When she talks about going to the doctor for examination, she says "I was hoping the doctor wouldn't find scars so I wouldn't get in trouble." In the recant videos she is very un-enthused, whereas in the videos where she tells the stories of her abusers, she seems enthusiastic about telling the truth and getting this secret off her chest. She doesn't like lying, and she seems exhausted from the coaching she received to recant the story. Amazing.

Even more obvious is the video of Gabriel recanting. It's as if the interrogator is trying to get him to say it the way he was coached to say it, and Gabriel isn't following the program.

So, between 9/11/14 and 9/17/14 when they recant, someone trained them to recant their story. Who were they with during this time period? Who's care were they in? From what I've read, it wasn't either of the parents.

Thank for the impressions.

Some people would claim they felt the opposite. Me - I don't know, I missed the videos. But I do feel the same way about her in other videos. This one in particular. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OgUdq3s7ObQ

I don't blame the mother for jumping ship. The scary thing is, she probably knows more details than we do.

Well in the interview with her handler, she claims they both fled the country.

Yes and she has secret interviews with police on video.

The Judicial Review can be found here (2nd document): https://drive.google.com/folderview?id=0Byzy22cCtwpdRjkzX3IwLXRKUFk&usp=sharing#

Police are choosing to ignore critical evidence:
"However, the CRIS report, the interviews and the medical evidence have all been provided in the course of Court of Protection proceedings. The defendant's enquires have indicated that the claimant has not been granted permission to use the documents for Judicial Review"

What we really need are the documents that prove Ricky's abusive history.

And we need to make sure the documents are legit and not something written for a cover-up.

This needs to be a sticky ASAP. That video is horrifying. He had the children help saw off a babys head and drink the blood?!?! WTF?! These people need to be brought to justice. I don't think I can eat my dinner....

I feel your pain. In fact, I bear the pain of knowing this has been going on for ... thousands of years. The rituals, accompanied by human sacrifices are way more common than we are let to know. This is the tip of the iceberg.

About 6 months ago, a local cop here (Montreal) came out to denounce the fact that some religious premises where "out of bound" and investigations were dropped without reason when some specific religious cough catholic cough organisations were involved.

Internet is a game changer though, if just ONE case gets blown open full public, the church will have one hell of a PR operation on their hands. This case may have the potential to do just that. I hope.

Exactly! The one that that makes this era different from all else, is the internet. By using the internet, the human race finally has a way to organize against seemingly invisible or invulnerable groups of people.

This is the only time in history when we will stand a chance. Soon, blanket censorship will be the norm and small communities such as this one will be scattered to the winds. We will look back and wonder why we didn't defend the open internet until the very end. Future generations may quite literally live in the matrix. It's a good thing we exist now, because the truth cannot be destroyed, only hidden.

Pray we stay vigilant in our efforts to uncover these monsters. Someday, it may in fact come down to public assembly. We need to do all we can today to spread concrete stories like this all across the world.

"Truth cannot be destroyed, only hidden."

Wow.

And we've entered the age of Knowing, where all that's been hidden must be revealed, if you believe in that sort of thing.

I believe the opposite, that sin will increase. But God sees all and knows all. And all will be judged.

Isaiah 24:4-5 and 26:21 (ESV)

"The earth mourns and withers, the world languishes and withers. The earth lies defiled under its inhabitants, for they have transgressed the laws, violated the statutes, broken the everlasting covenant. For behold, the Lord is coming out from his place to punish the inhabitants of the earth for their iniquity, and the earth will disclose the blood shed on it, and will no more cover its slain."

If that isn't a description of the current state of the world, then I don't know what is. Murderers walk free, child rapists are pardoned and the corrupt receive praise. This world is on a collision course with God and it will not fare well when he unleashes his judgement in wrath. I eagerly await it for those who commit unspeakable evil against the weak and vulnerable, but I fear it for myself because I know my own sins. As /u/SomeSomeSome8 said: truth can never be destroyed, only hidden, for a time. For the wicked, their time will come, even if only in death. But God will have his revenge: Deuteronomy 32:35-36 (ESV) "Vengeance is mine, and recompense, for the time when their foot shall slip; for the day of their calamity is at hand, and their doom comes swiftly."

I didn't say anything about sin or God...

What I mean is I believe that evil will increase, but continue to be hidden and covered up. More and more people are becoming corrupt, including judges and members of law enforcement.

Fair enough but I'd argue that when this sin, evil, corruption, falsity, whatever you wanna call it - as it increases in magnitude, it will only become more obvious and thus easier to expose. These fools can barely cover their tracks and stay out of the public eye as it is.

True. What do you mean then by: all that's been hidden must be revealed, if you believe in that sort of thing?

I was referring to astrology, we've entered (or are about to enter, depending on who you talk to) Aquarius which is the "Age of Knowing", when all that's been hidden will inevitably be revealed, among other things.

The internet scrubbing is active. It should go without saying that safe archiving of the recordings of these children is paramount. Backups are needed and, quite obviously, google can't be trusted.

both have blonde hair and blue eyes, didn't Icke say those were the most sought after traits in children for these type of things?

You're right. Nice call. I think he mentions that in "The biggest Secret".

I think I remember it from his interview with Arizona Wilder, probably the craziest interview of all time.

Just thinking along the lines of blonde hair blue eyed children... Is it possible that Madeleine McCann was abducted by similar people?

He also says there is a race of shape shifting lizard aliens ruling the earth.

Edit: here's a vid, since people want to down vote truth..wow.

http://youtu.be/Sz91F2PdyPM

He also knows that he has to use metaphors/code-speak or he'll be suicided by TPTB before he knows it. Don't dismiss everything from Icke just because of something you don't follow properly.

Speak in code? No. These were pretty clear cut videos and radio shows describing shape shifting lizards.

There were no metaphors there.

don't know why you got downvoted for that, he literally means shape shifting lizards. I'm a huge fan of his by the way and don't look down on him for the lizard stuff even though I can't say I buy into it.

I'm not denying he's a good speaker, because he is excellent actually.

But after you drop a bomb like that on the general public it's hard for me to discern what's credible from him and what's not. I got downvoted because some people around here are FAKE. They say they seek truth, then when they get it they're upset it didn't fall into line with their own beliefs.

Your comment has kind of exploded my mind really opened my eyes to Icke somewhat.

Agreed but I find it a bit odd how he's seemingly been distancing himself from this story, apparently he has avoided posting any of the videos to his site. Could just be more of the same though, protecting himself as much as possible. He's been talking about pedos in positions of power for decades.

2+2=4, even if he has marbles in his ass.

yeah there is that bit as well

Let's keep this simple:
Aug: Children accuse Papa of sexual abuse.
Sept: Children accuse Abe of forcing them to make up the sexual abuse.

Which is the truth?

My super short summary... The medical scaring indicates sexual abuse and because only Papa has been accused of sexual abuse, Papa is still No.1 Suspect.

When talking about what Abe did, the children used the concrete past tense much more often: "Abraham said, 'Yes you did, you little c**t." When they talk about Papa murdering babies, they talk in general tense: "We hold the knives, we kill the babies, we dance with the skulls. Everyone does it." But in the final videos where they finally felt comfortable enough to talk about real things, they related specific memories about a friend showing them something on an iPad mini, how Abraham took them on a porch one day in Morocco and told them to say things, etc. Not a jury in the world won't be able to see through this. Despicable. And maybe the dad does abuse them for all I know; but what seems certain is that Abraham does, if only (mostly) mentally. Heaven forbid it's anything worse. According to Alisa, she has a habit of keeping her hands over her self for when he kicks her with his boots. "I hate Abraham. I don't want to see him any more. He's not even our father. I don't want to call him Papa Hemp." I don't recall Gabriel making these types of emotional rejection statements about his real dad.

Apologies, I have amended my above post to include the word "sexual", could you please delete your post and re-reply given the new context?

The children didn't just say Abraham coerced their accusations against their father. They also said (one, or both, I don't remember) that Abraham kicked them in their privates, and Alisa said clearly that he kicks her in her bum on a regular basis, to the extent that she maintains a habit of keeping her hands covering herself when she's around him. Further, both the mother and Abraham had videos of the children engaging in sex acts on their iPhones. Gabriel said Abraham hit him hard in his ear, and Gabriel has in fact been shown to have hearing loss in that ear. Posing the question in a way that removes Abraham as a suspect is disingenuous, as is limiting the question of abuse to only one type. The truly simple questions would be 1: Were the children abused? 2: Who abused them if so?

I said "sexual abuse". Please discuss in the context I have given.

The question most important to this case is whether they've been abused in any way, and who is doing it if so. But both of your statements are true: In Aug the children accused papa of abuse, and in September they accused Abraham Jemal Christie of coercion AND abuse--sexual, physical, and emotional.

I haven't seen Alisa's videos yet. The sexual abuse I am referring to is that which caused the anal scaring.

You are taking hearsay over documented evidence.

There is no documented evidence of "Papa" causing the anal scarring. Gabriel said Abraham told him about plastic willies and that's where he got the knowledge that there was such a thing as plastic willies (Abraham had first tried to get Gabriel to say real willies were used). Gabriel also expressed fear about being with Abraham, and said he hated him. He said no such things about his biological dad.

The evidence and is clear, so is your agenda.

Anal scarring is evident and cult members have been accused of anal abuse. Is AC in the cult?

You are on the right track it seems. Abraham is the villain is this story. The people questioning your theory just want to believe the cult story. It's pathetic. You are not making illogical claims, you are just questioning their preconceived notions.

Which is more likely? Satanist cult that eat babies or an overbearing, abusive step-father?

Your "likely" opinions only show you up.

Wow this has really become a divisive subject here now. Seems to me it's between those who can accept they were wrong, and those who still want it to be true. Conspiracy in general has lost a lot of credibility in my eyes now.

Discuss the facts or go away!

Like you'd really be able to have a rational, open-minded discussion. I'm gladly gone. Thanks for showing the true colors of conspiracy nuts.

"Likely" is not "Truth".

Shill slaying. +1

thanks for getting rid of that guy, he sucked

You're right that it seems more likely. But there's still plenty of reason to investigate.

so many fucking shills in the comments, you pieces of shit are pathetic. kids are telling the truth, scum are trying to cover it up.

"Publicity is the very soul of justice. It is the keenest spur to exertion, and the surest of all guards against improbity. It keeps the judge himself, while trying, under trial. In the darkness of secrecy, sinister interest and evil in every shape, have full swing. Only in proportion as publicity has place can any of the checks, applicable to judicial injustice, operate. Where there is no publicity there is no justice"

Well said.

Alisa police interview video:

https://vid.me/fXlt

That is only one of the several interviews carried out. The beginning videos also have more substance that this one video leaves out.

I am hopefully going to have access to the original videos soon.

that would be helpful.

All the police videos:

Alisa Interview (7 Videos)

http://zeeklytv.com/video/19751/Alisa-05-Sep-I-24-min

http://zeeklytv.com/video/19750/Alisa-05-Sep-II-24-min

http://zeeklytv.com/video/19749/Alisa-11-Sep-I-24-min

http://zeeklytv.com/video/19748/Alisa-11-Sep-II-24-min

http://zeeklytv.com/video/19747/Alisa-11-Sep-III-10-min

http://zeeklytv.com/video/19746/Alisa-17-Sep-I-27-min

http://zeeklytv.com/video/19745/Alisa-17-Sep-II-5-min

Gabriel Interview (7 Videos)

http://zeeklytv.com/video/19744/Gabriel-05-Sep-I-27-min

http://zeeklytv.com/video/19743/Gabriel-05-Sep-II-18-min

http://zeeklytv.com/video/19742/Gabriel-11-Sep-I-25-min

http://zeeklytv.com/video/19741/Gabriel-11-Sep-II-24-min

http://zeeklytv.com/video/19740/Gabriel-11-Sep-III-24-min

http://zeeklytv.com/video/19739/Gabriel-11-Sep-IV-24-min

http://zeeklytv.com/video/19738/Gabriel-17-Sep-24-min

I'm glad to see these turn up

Awesome work, stay safe.

Good point. How does one protect his ass when dealing with "delicate" issues?

The only thing I could think up was sending a registered letter to a trusted friend, stating you are NOT suicidal, perfectly happy and if anything happens it is related to the fact you were looking into "x" issue. Tell the friend NOT to open the letter, this way the date on receipt of delivery and the fact it is sealed is lasting proof you are mentally stable.

If anything happens, the letter would need to be opened by a sworn person (lawyer, notary, cop, judge).

This would discredit any unexpected "suicide" we sometimes see in high-profile issues.

My 2 cents, I was just thinking out loud.

A real-life warrant canary. Interesting. I may have to remember this idea someday.

Good point. How does one protect his ass when dealing with "delicate" issues?

https://tails.boum.org

Buy a handgun and rifle, with plenty of ammo instead.

Be very careful with this story, it could very well be used as a weapon to control the net. These kids named people, there is an obviously controlling mother involved and the whole thing could be total bullshit. The fact that the Google drive is still there and open shows that perhaps the powers that be are happy for this story to grow. Why?

If this story gets bigger then it is only a matter of time until an individual or group decide 'to do something about it' and attack one or more of the named people. They might do severe harm or even kill one or more of the named people. Only then will the truth of the twisted controlling mother come out, and everyone will be aghast that 'conspiracy theorists' believed a couple of fucked up children's quite obviously loony stories. The gvt will step in to control all websites that are available in the UK, possibly Europe wide laws will be introduced.

Think sensibly about it. Firstly, these websites are pulling information on Hampstead from the last two decades. Hampstead is a densely populated area and just like any other densely populated are, given a 20 year period to examine legal strangeness, activities that have gone on etc you will dig up a lot. Secondly, just be calm and look at what these kids are saying.

The children say that every parent of every child at their school is a member of a pedophile gang. Other members of this pedo network are Police, Clergy, Social Services, shop workers, and lastly every teacher at their school. Who do these mostly extremely wealthy people choose to be their leader? That's right, an unemployed actor who is in receipt of welfare. This master pedo happens to be the father of these two children, oh and his mother (the children's grandmother). Now, ask yourself, what is the likelihood of this being true? One in a billion? More? Is the more likely explanation simply that the mother is the queen of all cunts and she has manipulated her own children to say these things?

Or do you really believe that the parents who can afford to live in Hampstead, where the average house is worth a couple of million dollars for a fucking lease, would follow a welfare scrounger and his mum, and sit back offering their own children up to be fucked in the ass?

Down vote me all you like, but if you want to believe total lunacy that's up to you.

there is an obviously controlling mother involved

Also that statement by the mother is clearly the work of a fantasist.

I guarantee this is not true.

They might do severe harm or even kill one or more of the named people. Only then will the truth of the twisted controlling mother come out,

but if you want to believe total lunacy that's up to you.

You sound like a shill. I'm not saying you are a shill, because that is against the rules, and I wouldn't want to accuse you of anything without evidence. But out of courtesy I'm obliged to tell you that your post takes on the tone and attitude of someone who is interested in actively discrediting this story, rather than simply discussing it. You may want to change your wording so that you don't sound so dismissive and condescending.

Generally when children come forward with allegations of physical and sexual abuse, one takes them seriously. But I've noticed that threads about this story get the attention of users who are keenly interested in discrediting the mother by using personal attacks and calling her names. Strange, don't you think?

Edit: How do you know the father is on welfare?

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What's Forest Gump's Facebook password? 1forest1

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No, this sub is about analysing evidence to form our own opinions on the world and not taking the mainstream narrative at face value. With a few exceptions, the people on here generally demand a higher level of evidence before they are inclined to believe something.

No that's the rest of reddit

This reads like a misdirection post.

i didnt even bother to read it

This reads like common sense.

The common sense dictates that 9/11 was blown up by Muslim cavemen who hate freedom, children with Aspergers are prone to shooting up kindergartens, and that the thousand-or-so witnesses who have come forward with allegations of satanic ritual abuse are just making it all up. So yes, you're right.

Thanks glad you see it the same way :)

no it doesn't. you just believe that's what everyone else thinks because the TV told you. yet here we are...

I don't own a TV.

you don't have to, plenty of other people do.

Oh I see what you mean. Not common sense. Common sense.

you can get the news without a newspaper. just ask any person that walks down the street what happened today. they will "tell you their informed opinion"

Huh?

I just find it a huge stretch to believe that the only parent at the school who is not a child fucker happens to be their mum. They also say the CAF team sexually abused them too. CAF has nothing to do with the school, it is entirely independent from it. So the school cannot selectively recruit CAF staff.

I would share your belief if the kids said one social worker, a couple of the parents and one police and social worker. However, they clearly say all of them, just not their mother. Also that statement by the mother is clearly the work of a fantasist. I guarantee this is not true. The social services have removed the children from the mother already and that speaks volumes.

Edit: What I mean is that a pedo ring, or any organized criminal activity can be arranged. However, it needs a central hub. The BBC or even Westminster are prime examples - they can easily have pedo rings within them because they can select who goes there. Look at the BBC, they actively employed pedophiles exclusively. Jimmy Savile got his job at the Beeb not because he was a great DJ, but because he was a pedophile and he fit in with the rest of them. He was moving in the pedo circle long before he worked at the BBC. The same thing can happen with politicians too. You can't just represent any party you feel like, there is a selection process that you must go through, this too can be influenced by pedophiles, they want a pedophile just like them to come and join them at Westminster. It's much like how the 'Gay Mafia' used to work many years ago, there were companies that only employed Gay people. Nobody outside of the organization knew that was going on, but being gay used to be illegal, and they'd meet in secret clubs, if a gay was looking for a job one of the people at the club/bar would tell them to get a job with them. There were exclusively gay cafe's, offices, gvt departments etc. The same thing can happen with any organization.

However, a modern school is a very different kettle of fish. Sure, the Headteacher could be a pedo, and they could employ exclusively pedo teachers, but they can't control what the local authority do, nor who the local authority send as CAF officers, similarly they can't control the Police, Social Services nor any other external body. Where it would get even more difficult is in pupil selection. How on earth could you ensure that the LEA accepted only pedophile's children to attend your school? If the area were poorer I could maybe go for it, but this is a very expensive area. You're pickings are out of a tiny pool. Sure, there are people on Welfare in Hampstead, just as there are people on Benefits living in Mayfair and Park Lane - usually because they moved in a few years ago and the Gvt pay the rent for their properties. However, these are a tiny minority of the residents of Hampstead. Most people who live in Hampstead will have very high independent incomes. Even the Prime Minister doesn't earn enough (officially) to afford to live in Hampstead. I doubt most Hampstead people have the time to fuck kids on a Wednesday. These kids said that Wednesday is sex day at the school.

Another thing to remember about the narrative, if you're going to critique it (and not some incomplete, broken form of it) is that the pedophilia starts at some absurdly high level and flows downwards. It would be very hard to establish this ring, sure, if it were going the other way up, which feels like your point. It would run into hurdles with the CAF. But before it reaches to the school, it's already been through the police, the CAF. There is a HUB, it's somewhere above all of those things, and it's suggested as much in the videos themselves. We don't know if Hampstead is meant to be a one-off place, where they focus on controlling a large amount of what's there compared to what's controlled in other areas, but that's not entirely relevant.

Your other points are fair enough, though they're not particularly convincing as they're more like suggestions into investigations that would be built on.

I know I will get eye rolls from this, but R.E. "You're pickings are out of a tiny pool."- It's a fallacy to blindly assume any kind of local pedo-to-rich ratio in Hampstead is going to be uninfluenced by organisation. Given the nature of the narrative, rich pedophiles flocking to Hampstead is well within the realm of possibility.

Be careful.

I expressed similar sentiments to you and was accused of being a paid "disinfo agent" as well as receiving numerous abusive messages. My favourite being the one that repeatedly said it was "people like me" are the reason things like this happen.

For the record, I completely agree with you. The scariest thing is how so many people have accepted this on face value with no real concrete evidence or any real facts to back it up. For a subreddit that is supposed to question what they are presented and dissect all the information to come to a logical conclusion, this is honestly quite baffling.

"Oh but Savile and Rotherham and the other people in Hampstead are proof" are usually what I get told but this is all circumstantial. The signs of sexual abuse are also used to prove that their claims are factual. Can these be faked? It is likely and has been done before. If the children are as intelligent as they seem then why is it not feasible that they could do this?

And listen to the claims! Ritual beheading of babies that are then cooked in the McDonalds in East Finchley (in a secret kitchen), children helping with this and drinking their blood, a shop near East Finchley tube station that makes shoes out of babies skin and (as you mention) every school in the area being in on this as well as police, social services, the courts and God knows who else. Some of the people here are even accepting this simply because the children are blonde haired and blue eyed!

It wouldn't be the first time that children and parents of said children have concocted outlandish stories so as to either wrestle away custody of the children from the other parent or, because the children themselves feel the other parent is more lenient for example and accuse people in authority or parents of abusing them for their own gains.

People's real names, address and phone numbers are being freely given out too in the various links that have been posted about these claims. I would have thought that would be against the Reddit ToU to facilitate doxxing because it will happen eventually and then, if something untoward were to happen to one of these people, all "conspiracy theorists" will be tarred with the same brush and the person we have to blame is one of our own.

Stickied post on /r/conspiracy containing some of the most libelous allegation I've ever seen in my life against named British nationals including teachers, police and members of the clergy.

Way to go Reddit - don't worry about the potential to destroy innocent people's lives... you just plow on son.

Anybody ever consider the main stream media is not printing this story because has been investigated by the police and thrown out (as fabrication)? Occam's razor.. no? Because you would rather believe people are out there turning dead babes into flip-flops than some mother lost her god damn mind.

• Reality: The mother is the abuser.
• /r/conspiracy: Yeeehaaww, grab me some rope Billy Bob!

Because you would rather believe people are out there turning dead babes into flip-flops

I think this is one of the major things that make me disbelieve the story. The secret McDonalds kitchen, babies being grilled next to Big Macs and the baby skin shoe shop.... please!

I completely agree. My only question is, why didn't she have them lie about something more believable? She'd have far better chances of getting her way if she'd just told them to lie and say they were just molested by the father.

Maybe she has some form of Munchausen's.

Exactly right

I'm glad someone agrees. This is a very bizarre allegation and the amount of people who are just believing it blindly is just baffling.

I dont think people are believing it. I think people are questioning it and pursuing if its true or not. Its important not let something like this sink into oblivion simple because there isnt any evidence. Kids are involved and we have to do what we can to protect them.

If we are wrong, Id gladly be wrong in the pursuit of protecting people. But we also need to keep an open mind that this could be a setup too. I also have a hard time believing this story could get the kind of traction it is, and the question everyone should be asking is: Why now? there have been tons of this going on for a long time, all of a sudden it starts getting big attention and right around the time governments are pushing an agenda to censor communications online.

I dont think people are believing it.

If you check some of the comments in this and the other threads then they are believing it outright without questioning it and anyone who questions it is being accused of being a shill or, in my case, a paid disinformation agent.

Comments such as:

This reads like a misdirection post.

You sound like a shill

i didnt even bother to read it (on a comment questioning if this is the truth)

This needs to be a sticky ASAP. That video is horrifying. He had the children help saw off a babys head and drink the blood?!?! WTF?! These people need to be brought to justice. I don't think I can eat my dinner....

Blue eyes blond kids. That is what "they" want.

The "facts" are not being questioned at all.

You just proved that you have no interest in looking at this a balanced way by ignoring the second part of my comment.

The first paragraph of what you wrote I have been thinking for a while

Let them dig their mass grave

I understand the faith a lot of us have in the children's words can be frustrating. You're right to be skeptical. It's unfortunate that people are attacking you for it.

I think there's some context supplied for Hampstead. Apparently Hampstead is a theorized "hotbed" because big-name pedophiles operate or live there, or something. Hence the ridiculous amount of pedo infiltration. And it does follow a kind of twisted logic. If an entire school is going to be invaded, then it makes sense to invade the social services that tend the children, too.

And off the record, I know how this sounds, but don't be turned off by the community believing the children. It's kind of beautiful that the faith does exist in the the community. If this IS real, or if one day something like this comes out that's real, then literally no amount of cover-up or "logic" like what you've given example of will swade us, and the secret, impossible giant ring of pedophilia that crosses schools, and many different local stores. and government organisations will be unearthed, simply because we were stubborn and illogical enough to believe in it. It sounds absurd but that's our role, really. I know not everybody will like that I've used "our," "we," here and I apologize for that.

In the end, it will come down to the birth marks/tattoos.

AND the mum just happens to be wanting to take them back to Russia.

https://drive.google.com/file/d/0Byzy22cCtwpdaFBaWFZIUDRyNms/view?pli=1

d. To avoid high level embarrassment, the following possible arrangements might be worth considering:

1) Instead of starting public law proceedings against the school, the children are returned – with immediate effect – to live with the maternal grandparents in Russia.

3) Instead of joining the Russian government to the proceedings, the children are released to their mother and maternal grandparents with immediate effect.

Agreed. These kids are clearly rehearsed and have been peppered with leading questions. That is not to say that pedophilia is not a serious and pervasive issue among the upper echelons of society, especially in England. But this poster is hitting it right on the head with his main point. This is bait.

This is what I think too. If there are beheadings and whatnot, there has to be blood and the police can find it if they are not a part of it. The story is just too crazy. It is just a custody battle.

It's a possibility that if the school and social services are in on it that the police are, too. I'm all for critiquing the story, but if you're going to run with the story's logic for such purposes, you kind of have to respect the possibilities that it opens up. If the pedo group is real, the first thing it would infiltrate would foremost be the police.

Ok, but how do you "infiltrate" the police? You have to get them involved, along with the teachers and social services. No body can talk, no body can have second thoughts.

This is why it's such a good conspiracy theory. Going by the theory's logic it wouldn't really need to be infiltrated. It would be set up with the system already intact. Its supervisors would have been set up too. They'd make sure only people in their club succeed in the job interviews. Going from the top-down makes it a lot easier for them to do that.

As for second thought holders, the system has murder threats, and enough blackmail material to ruin any doubter's career + life. It's doubtful that whistleblowing these rings even has a meaningful effect, so that'd be there to de-motivate everyone too. Why risk your life for a grass-roots campaign that will ultimately get beaten - that, mind you, you've probably seen beaten time and time again in your position.

Yes, what you describe is certainly possible. A woman who is upset because she had her kids taken away from her in a custody case, and tries to defame her ex is also possible. Which is more probable?

Have you ever looked into past cases of child trafficking/ritual abuse/pedophile rings that have been actively covered up by law enforcement? It isn't like this is all being pulled out of someone's ass, these things have been going on for decades and have been documented.

It doesn't need to be the entire police force, a few well-placed detectives/chiefs/etc. is all you need.

I know a little bit about it, so I know that it is possible. But, as I have said before, it is also possible that it is just a custody case where the wife is trying to make the husband look bad. Have you ever heard of such a case?

Of course both are possible, as are any other number of explanations. It's still too early to say for sure but I think there's more than enough to warrant investigating the claims further.

But, as I have said before, it is also possible that it is just a custody case where the wife is trying to make the husband look bad. Have you ever heard of such a case?

Never one that even remotely resembles this one to be honest.

I agree that this case is so far out there that there is almost no coming back.

Anyway, the kids are making very clear accusations: there are 4 torture rooms at the school with a secret door and beheadings and blood and skulls. All of these things, if they exist, will be easy to find for the police. This all should become very clear very quickly.

This all should become very clear very quickly.

Only if the claims are investigated properly and quickly which, if past cases are any indication, is not a guarantee. But I agree in theory, it would be fairly easy to confirm or deny some of the allegations.

If the police are slightly clean. And I think there is enough info and interest to sorta keep them clean this time.

The girl mentions in one of the videos that some police are part of the ring. If you think that's unbelievable, you probably didn't see this.

I totally believe that it is possible. But, as I have said before, you have to believe that ALL of these people are involved. It stretches the imagination. I am not saying that it is impossible. But, it does require that no one talk.

You'd be surprised. groups like these use fear of discovery and intimidation to keep the system going. Someone said the bigest lies are the easiest ones to get away with because nobody believes them. Adolf Hitler I think..

Man, what in the world was his password?

yoloswag420

something along the lines of fuckdeadbabies69

I was wondering the same thing..

I don't want to know.

FYI, there's a live interview with Sabine tonight.. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1i2lCSziZn4

Interview on archive page: http://truthfrequencyradio.com/the-kev-baker-show-49650/

New documents have just appeared on the Supportive Documents link, click the Judicial Review Folder. Wow!

The Medical Reports reveal Ricky Dearman's (Papa) abusive history of domestic violence and shows he was arrested.

Thanks for your good work.

:) Appreciated.

Judicial Review Folder in the Supportive Documents, 5. Medical Report 150914.

What you are entirely omitting is that there is no record of Dearman being violent towards the children, but the very document you reference indicates a police call in July 2014 on the mother's boyfriend Abraham Christie for being aggressive not only towards Alisa and Gabriel, but towards "other children at the school." Not only are there no records of the biological father being neglectful or abusive towards the children, there are multiple, multiple calls and records indicating that the boyfriend was neglectful and aggressive toward them, and that they were "crying on the balcony for long periods of time," hungry, etc. This is ALL after Abraham Christie moved in with the mother.

AC has NO history of abuse prior to the allegations made by the children in their final interview. Ricky's abuse spanning several years is now documented. You are mistaken with the balcony crying as this happened in 2013, AC did not move in until 2014. Please be more careful with your words.

Like I said before these facts are simple... Ricky is accused of anal abuse and anal abuse is confirmed in the medical report. You constantly ignore this fact and chose to focus on hearsay instead.

As far as I am concerned, abuse against the mother whilst the children are in her care is abuse against the children! If only you were more concerned with the children's welfare, rather than promoting the agenda of shaming AC. People here will not be fooled by your attacks.

No record of it on paper, maybe, but in the 4th police video, starting at about 8 minutes, Alisa describes Ricky Dearman beating them "all the time" and that Abraham, from what I can tell, was trying to understand what Ricky was doing to them by imitating it himself. Alisa says that she didn't have a problem with it. I gather that means that Abraham wasn't doing it to hurt them. It's a bit confusing, but if you watch the video of Alisa explaining, she doesn't seem threatened at all by Abraham.

Well, if there is any truth to this, it should be easy for the police to find evidence of it.

There are 4 secret rooms in the church where the cult members perform the rituals. The ritual involves wearing special costumes: children wear 10-13 babies skulls (sometimes with blood and hair still on the skull), adults - 20, - on their bodies, leader - 30 skulls.

Everybody has skulls worn around the neck (4), on breast, front private, belly, knees, arms. All wear shoes made of baby skin by Felix, Daniel (owners of the shoe repair shop in Finchley Road underground station), Max (Sportec shop on Finchley road).

Babies are supplied from all over the world. They buy them, inject and send by TNT, DHL service or the parents bring them from other parts of the world. For example Sophie's parents bring them from America, Hawaii; Vanessa (Clark and Lindsey's mother) - from South Africa, Cartney's parents bring babies from Portugal, Spain; Millie's parents bring babies from Gayana, China, India, America. Baby sacrifice, blood drinking, dancing with the Baby's skulls happen in the church on Tuesdays and Thursdays. Main day is Wednesday, ritual performance is at 11 am in the secret church rooms.

Skulls, baby skin shoes are kept in the secret rooms.

East Finchley swimming pool is amongst other meeting spots for Satanic peadophile ring. The members of the ring attend swimming sex sessions satanic ritual blood sacrifice. The ritual is permed in an upstairs room in McDonald's on Mondays & Fridays. Frank, boss of the McDonald's (within the complex) allows the child sacrifice in the McDonald's secret kitchen behind the mail one and is member of the cult.

Human babies are prepared and cooked on the cookers and ovens.

The entrance is via main kitchen. The door with the key lock at the back leads to the secret room.

How do you come by this Information?

there is a link in the comments.

The police videos are not there (empty folder).

Could someone please reupload those police videos

Why haven't the police asked Mrs. F, the headteacher, to allow a doctor to examine her? If she has a tattoo above her privates and evidence of piercings, how else would the kids know that if it isn't true? Seems to me this is the key to ALL of the allegations!

Exactly. That teacher should voluntarily allow a doctor to photograph just above her junk to disprove their story. If there is a tattoo there (or evidence of a tattoo once being there,) well, we have corroborated the kids story and the arrests should be made and the trial(s) should begin.

she can probably refuse. Besides, concealing the tattoo and piercings is easy with cosmetics. Therefore, whether innocent or guilty, the woman would have to have her genitals washed and thoroughly inspected to reach a conclusion. Even if she is innocent, I wouldn't blame her for refusing that

We're at the point now where any new information will potentially be misleading information, created by pedophiles.

Perhaps the investigators/believers of this sub might want to begin gathering information independently. The narrative gives us names and stores. But poking around and asking people at these locations might be too dangerous or just plain too creepy/stalkerish (?). But what we can do is inform people of the story, and we can inform people, say, who are working at that McDonalds hat there is momentum building at the moment and there is this story. Maybe somebody will say something interesting in response.

I think we should also be archiving as much info as possible as soon as it becomes available - download all videos and documents before they get removed.

I'm willing to bet the satanic abuse the children describe is what happens yearly at Bohemian Grove. This is how real satanists practice their religion.

Catholic priests have been found guilty of such crimes. Why do child rapists have to be Satanic?

Have you been following this story? The children are being abused inside of a Catholic church, in-part by a Catholic priest, who are clearly practicing Satanic rituals. It's starting to become clear that Satanists have infiltrated the Catholic church, assuming it wasn't a Satanic institution masquerading as an institution dedicated to Jesus Christ to begin with.

I have been following this story, yes. It appears that the cult story was a lie, and that the mother's boyfriend (ex-boyfriend now it seems) may have been abusing the children and made them tell this story for whatever reason. My point is, you don't need to be a Satanist to want to rape and kill children. In fact, I don't believe that there are actual Satanic cults that perform actual Satanic rituals because there has never been an established "religion" dedicated to the Biblical Satan. There are no rituals, it's just people trying to add some drama and performance to their child raping parties. God and the Devil have nothing to do with this. It's a human disease.

Comment from Sabine K McNeil, McKenzie Friend of the children's mother: http://www.reddit.com/r/conspiracy/comments/2vvekm/uk_child_abuse_whistleblowers_papa_kills_babies__what_we_know_so_far/cor67s3. The police have issued a warrant for her arrest...

I thought the 12 day hearing was to begin today?

Fact finding hearing to begin on the 16th in the Family Court in secret.

Good interview from Ground Zero Media : https://soundcloud.com/groundzeromedia/f2015-02-11

The P.I in this interview connects the dots.

This goes all the way to the top people. Royal family, Clintons, Hollywood, etc...wow.. This is it people.

Looks like the soundcloud got pulled while I was listening just now - anyone else confirm / disconfirm? edit: nvm, looks like it's back - was definitely gone for a few minutes there

The below is a short transcript from the 17th Sept interview between Steve and Gabriel starting at 5:35:

S: We talked in two other interviews before, didn't we?
G: Yes
S: Was what you told me the truth?
G: Yes
S: So all the stuff about the babies...
G: Yeah
S: and the church and all that...
G: No, No... the babies... um... the baby... he um... no, well there is some of the babies killed, yeah.
S: Ok.... Are you sure?
G: Yes, but not much. Not every single day, not every single day... like... killed no, not like that.
S: Ok, because I heard you watched a film....

Steve then brings up Zorro and leads Gabriel into foster care. Absolutely disgusting! Gabriel is only eight and in this interview has real trouble explaining the new version of events.

In summary, according to Gabriel, the murdering of babies was still carried out, just "not much", "not every single day".

Unbelievable how people can take this final video as gospel!

That video is disturbing, to say the least. Gabriel can't get the new, recant story straight.

Kev Baker Interview with Sabine McNeill - lawyer who has worked on this case and is trying to expose the 1,000 missing children / month in the UK alone. She goes on to talk about this has become systemic and how she fears for her safety. Very pertinent and informative

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QBwoOq3_FjU

Pictures drawn by children portraying abusers can be found in this article:
http://www.hotelneptune.co.uk/#!Hampstead-Abuse-Whats-Going-On/c847/468F1A9F-F248-40B6-8955-955BAEBEA3FC

Blue eyes blond kids. That is what "they" want.

There was a a thread here from a year ago by LawofAttraction33 (?) who has researched these pedo rings

r.e: "The one thing that bothers me about the video is that I can't work out why it has been allowed up on youtube for so long."

This is my view on the matter; the government/evil/whatever doesn't actually need to worry about deleting genuine videos and sources because it has faith that these videos will end up being incoherent vessels of information to the general population. They know the minority group of conspiracy theorists will see and believe the videos, but they're okay with that, because we're one of the most disliked and isolated "white" sub-cultures in the Western world. If anything, keeping this video up helps their agenda, because the non-conspiracy theorists that do see it, will see that we're supporting it and we're not really questioning the kids, and then they'll say something like, "Wow, those people really ARE batshit crazy to believe this insane story from 2 kids." It's set up so that the content that aids us also harms us. The work done is perpetually isolating.

The Interview with the lawyer for the Mother of the kids, http://truthfrequencyradio.com/the-kev-baker-show-49650/

I sure hope that lawyer doesn't disappear or go to prison like the others that have tried to do something. Apparently caring about children can get you killed.

none of the videos work any more

Same here. Everything is being scrubbed, these videos are about to become very hard to find.

What is also noticeable is this case is that the infos (videos/text) are being taken down quite quickly from websites whenever they get posted.

A resonable explination for that is, there is a on going police case and videos revel a lot of personal information

All videos now taken down. Yikes, I was looking at them yesterday. Suppose that means this is in the wrong hands now.

Hopefully the independent media sees how big this is and runs with it. Shills all over and the scrubbing is on, that tells us something

Two posts regarding alternative media coverage: http://www.reddit.com/r/conspiracy/comments/2w4tdy/update_on_whistleblower_hampstead_uk_paedophile/coo8der http://www.reddit.com/r/conspiracy/comments/2w4tdy/update_on_whistleblower_hampstead_uk_paedophile/cop61pj

Basically, there is a severe lack of independent media coverage :(

Here are the interview videos:

http://youtu.be/mMJo67g2jeo

Here is the text supposedly posted by the mother:

http://google-law.blogspot.de/2015/02/kids-describe-sexual-abuse-and-murder.html

Those are the random clips of informal interviews put together, but the real interviews with exact names, and professional conversation are the police interviews.

People back up all these video and docs. They are coming out in force to scrub this.

My god, these people are sick. It's like the UK child "protection" system is built around child snatching for these Cults that torture/rape/eat children. These demons must be brought to justice. If we allow these PSYCHOS to do this? What are we?!

I believe in any Society the Children MUST BE PROTECTED. These creeps in power make me sick.

/endrant

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"Sorry, that message is no longer in the database"

Here comes the CENSOR MACHINE! They are trying to scrub it from the Internet.

They are back now. I will make a backup now before some info gets really lost.

"Some trolls false reported this thread and got it deleted but Ghetto Monk stepped in and restored it. Nice try troll but this info will spread."

The school/church website the children attended is now down. Hmmmm.

http://christchurchhampstead.com/ -church

http://christchurchschool.co.uk/ -School

UK Column Youtube account now back online, the video discussing these events has been removed. https://www.youtube.com/user/ukcolumn

Yep, but what's not great is the lack of input from users to discuss and explore these issues :(

Nice work for getting this stickied! :)

Your effort is much appreciated.

Makes me wonder why the head satanist in the Eyes Wide Shut orgy had a British accent... Wow, this stuff is real...

Disappointing to see so few established Youtube channels reporting on these events. List of channels with over 10k subs:

• Subliminal Proof
• Empowerment 2015
• TruthTube 451
• The Vigilant Christian
• PrisonPlanetLive
• ExoPolitics

Any more? Where are the rest? :(

NEW - > >>> POLICE VIDEOS:

Alisa

https://drive.google.com/folderview?id=0Byzy22cCtwpdRXVZVUFEMzBnbm8&usp=sharing

Gabriel

https://drive.google.com/folderview?id=0Byzy22cCtwpdR0wzbThja0YtMGc&usp=sharing

Yikes. This ought to put a new spin on things.

I don't know if you have any contact with the police who are conducting this investigation, but I believe Alisa may be referring to "Zoroark," [a Pokemon thing] not "Zorro." She clearly says "Zoroark" in the 17 Sep interview at 10:33:51; she then refers to it again as "Zoros." There is in fact a piece of Pokemen fan fiction called "Alyssa the Zoroark" which involves all kinds of sexuality and killing and (I would call it) vulgarity--even though the protagonist is supposed to be 13 years old. At any rate, because Alisa clearly said Zoroark, I think this movie thing may have nothing to do with Zorro, and police should be made aware of this.

That's 17 Sep (1), the first video of that day. I realize that she then goes on to talk about Mask of Zorro; however, this seems to be a trait of hers--mentioning a concept but then quickly switching to a similar-sounding but different concept. Like she's trying to purposely go off-track from the (possibly more genuine) original reference.

No, I have no contact with somebody from police. My original source this time was the David Icke forum where it was posted. I was just the quickest to post it over here. I just came back and until now I saw only 30 minutes. The beginning of two videos and the middle of the last video of Alisa where she retracts everything. I will watch them no to get an impression. At the moment I find it odd that on the 11th the kids seems to be happy and on the later videos they seem to be tired an depressed. Just my first quick impression based on a few frames.

Looks like the someone who doubts the mother decided to fight fire with fire.

Watch the last Gabriel video, 17 Sept.

Also the 17 Sept Alisa. Looks like that's the day they told the truth.

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I don't think so, this reminds me of when I was like 13 and was with a guy who stole a power board from a hotel - the police nabbed us, separated us and they threatened to beat me up, I admitted to the other guy taking it then they took us to the police station, they kept hassling me over and over, are you sure he did it? you know you'll have to go to court! etc etc eventually I caved into what it seemed they wanted me to say, I said ok no he didn't do it and right then and there we were free to go.

It seems they've been through a drawn out process, they're being offered a way out and are taking it.

This was from last year too, if it were conclusive we probably wouldn't have even heard of the story.

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Just finished watching Gabriel's videos...

To summarize, after being in the care of social services Gabriel totally changed his story and implicated the boyfriend as opposed to Papa. This fits in with everything we have already been told by the source so far.

In the 17th Sept interview it's obvious to me he is struggling with this new side of the story and has trouble with the truth. This is especially evident at around the 5:45 mark when discussing the killing of babies.

One thing we should be clear on before moving forward is that these children have been abused and the medical report proves this.

YouTube removed the original "Papa Kills Babies."

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LtncDnCRPYo

Who uploaded the police videos?

For anyone wondering, it was the 'McKenzie Friend' of the mother, Sabine K McNeil. Saw it under the details of the Google Drive link.

the most important thing here is the children.

Then why are you parading the exploitative videos and adding to the hysteria? One of the links tells me that the UK courts have been trying to take them down to protect the children's identities and protect them from the hysteria. The other reason is that this is an ongoing child abuse investigation and UK law has always prevented the publication of victims and the accused in an ongoing investigation. So this is all very interesting but it is also a little messed up to see it promoted in a sticky and on the sidebar of a major subreddit. Some of your links even have phone numbers, addresses of those linked to the abuse. This seems strange that it is even allowed.

Did you not hear the children in the original interviews? They implicated the Police and Social Services! At what point do "we the people" conduct our own investigation if these government entities can no longer be trusted?

Background research: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QRH1grAgvtc

Let me know if you would like to see more evidence of baby snatching/forced adoption in the UK?

Mine is more a knee jerk reaction to seeing this information dump on something very current and on a large forum like this. I don't think have these kids faces all over the internet helps them or their school. Having the names and addresses of suspected abusers released alongside these videos is dangerous for both the guilty and innocent given the hysteria.

I think the police and social services isn't one entity and it will be kept in check one way or another. There is a case of the people making their failures a priority and political issue but the cases need to be sanitised to protect the innocent.

You have brought up forced adoption and the trend of social services to be too proactive and reactionary to childs protection. This is kind of the opposite to some of the issues that might brought up here - i.e. social services and the police not doing enough.

At what point do "we the people" conduct our own investigation if these government entities can no longer be trusted?

I think "we the people" can force the investigations, accountability and public inquiry. UK just got that judge from new zealand in to head up a public inquiry into paedophilia to heighten trust. But it is interesting when we do abandon the system altogether. It makes me think of things like the 911 truth movement.

It's called whistleblowing and no, it's not pleasant. The mother has already lost her children and may never get them back, hence the release of this information. What would you do if pedophiles took away your child?

I suggest you research Lowell Goddard before jumping to conclusions. Where is here statement on these videos?

911 truth movement? You do know you are on r/conspiracy? Please dont use ad-hominem attacks. Please stick to dicussing the facts about this case.

911 truth movement? You do know you are on r/conspiracy? Please dont use ad-hominem attacks. Please stick to dicussing the facts about this case.

I mentioned it because we are in /r/conspiracy. It is an example of how people have taken an investigation into their own hands after everything else is exhausted. It was a specific answer to your question and an example of when trust if lost in government entities. My point is that a citezens investigation is what should happen a very long way down the road and not the first point of inquiry as the internet seems to encourage. I thought you asked a general question which might be a misunderstanding

It's called whistleblowing

Dumping exploitative videos of your own children on the internet is not careful or caring. If the videos are true, then the children need to be in protection. If they are false, then the child need to be in protection. The children need to be taken out of this fucked up situation.

It was because the children were in protection that this information was released. This is not the "first point of enquiry" but a last resort. I don't think you understand the history of this case.

Please answer the first question in my last post... Put yourself in the mother's position. What would you do if your child confessed to being sexually abused at school and implicated the police and SS too. Next thing your child is being taken away from you, but you have these video as proof of the testimonies. What would you do if pedo's took away your child?

I would complain to the police complaints commission, social service, my MP and various child protection charities like the NSPCC.
Getting your children back means showing you can offer them safety and is not a matter of proving that there is some widespread abuse. The mother is most likely some sort of victim here too.

The main signal I looked at when glancing at this case was to see that the school is still open and no further action there. I know how seriously paedophilia cases are taken once the ball is rolling especially in a school environment where other children could be at risk. So I have come to a conclusion on this even though some of the video evidence is fascinating and compelling. My main reason for posting here is that there is too much personal info being dumped here about real people and some kind of idea that this is helping.

I would complain to the police complaints commission, social service, my MP and various child protection charities like the NSPCC

1. After you've done this, got no where and now your life has been threatened, you have two options left... release the videos or do nothing. Which one?

2. You admit the evidence is "compelling", yet complain that we have access to the evidence (in its original format). Which is in the best interests of society, Transparency of Secrecy?

   For the record, I believe ALL information should be available to everyone, no exceptions! May I recommend a book: http://www.amazon.com/The-Open-Source-Everything-Manifesto-Transparency/dp/1583944435

I guess release the video. It sure is an act of desperation that might be real or percieved. There is definitely a story behind this.

I find the kids testimony compelling as in it is really interesting and better than a lot of fiction .

However, I have some first hand understanding of the UK system and the safeguards for child protection. Even with all the commotion about historical sex abuse, something as big as what those kids told us or even just a fraction of it could not be covered up when the police, social services and school have been involved. Hence, I am a little worked up about privacy than knowing the actual truth behind all this. Those sidebar photos burn with emotion.

That book looks interesting. It blows my mind to think how the whole world would work and so would have to read it. I may be missing the bigger picture but that philosophy of ALL information is available for everyone does sound like a good one for online communities like reddit (thinking about those secretive moderators and all things like alt accounts that we cannot idenity).

Nice reply, shows integrity...

"better than a lot of fiction"
"Truth is stranger than fiction".

"UK system and the safeguards for child protection"
I recommend this presentation: http://youtu.be/OWjRXezM_Gc

"philosophy of ALL information is available for everyone"
Philosophy is the key word... Secrets are the root of all evil.

You're on a roll Ted. You're making the Shills work for that $10 a hour.

You must be blind, you ever watch serpico? When corruption reaches a high enough level theres no such thing as accountability

Most of them.

The newsinsideout.com has the name and address of the vicar. It has the address of the kids father. It has the address of the school. Even just the videos have real names and specifies location and workplace details throughout.

When the investigation is over and this makes the mainstream news, I expect they will severly mask the idenities of the children in the video or just use actors. This is because protecting the children is paramount.

FACT: The anal scarring has been ignored by the Police.

No it hasn't, the children were put in to care!

They just cannot be sure who did it (father, partner) because of the changing stories and lack of further evidence.

From the document named "DETAILED STATEMENT of GROUNDS for JUDICIAL REVIEW" in the Judicial Review Folder.

On 22 September 2014, the CRIS report says that the case was closed “Crime not confirmed.”

I suggest you read all the documents before making any more posts.

Yes precisely. They cannot determine the time place and people of the alleged crime, and it would not be sufficient for a prosecution.

However the evidence DOES prove abuse took place in the mother's care, thus they were removed. Both the father and partner have a history of violence.

... also somebody fucking remove that picture to the right. How exploitative do you want to be?

FACT: The anal scarring has been ignored by the Police.

"Yes precisely" Classic!

FACT: Ted is wilfully delusional.

Go rant somewhere else. Some of us here are genuinely trying to figure out the truth.

He wasn't ranting, just offering an opinion that went against the circlejerk

1. He tried to prove the above FACT wrong and failed, then tries to insult me!
   
2. We are not interested in just opinions.
   
3. We are interested in discussing the evidence.
   

Given this, the fact that you come to his defence is very strange.

We're all just discussing. There's nothing strange about that. Give the tinfoil hat a rest.

Calling us circle jerkers is hardly a discussion! Also, tinfoil hat insults do not go down well on r/conspiracy :)

How about you discuss the evidence and share your conclusions?

Well its apparent some people here don't even know how to interpret the documents. There can be evidence of abuse without having specific evidence of the culprit. It's that simple.

They were clearly not safe with the mother and her partner so they were removed.

There's some more things to probe, but this fucker thinks he's being smart by repeating ANAL SCARRING, like it proves Satanists are eating babies in secret rooms.

Get some perspective people!

Also REMOVE THE DAMN IMAGE FROM THE SIDEBAR YOU MORONIC MODS

I suggest you remove yourself from this sub-Reddit. Your disrespectful attitude towards others is not welcome here.

I'm sorry you're disrespected by rational and critical thinking, and genuine care for children.

It's telling you would call to shut down free speech so easily.

You're just rude. We don't need bad vibes here.

This whole thread is bad vibes. And showing the children's images is gross.

Prove it! :)

That's another shill down. Good shot Rouge 6!

Not that its directly related, but has anyone ever heard of the Franklin coverup?

Here is a link to a post that I made that received no attention, but is on the topic of the exact same thing:

http://www.reddit.com/r/conspiracy/comments/2vtkxn/this_makes_me_think_of_the_slc_saga_that_was/

I'm willing to bet there is a direct connection, I hope we can find it

Full text from mother of children:

http://pastebin.com/pCtcpQ6G

16 February at the Royal Courts of Justice in London:

http://pastebin.com/fY8VtHjY

Thread on GLP:

http://www.godlikeproductions.com/forum1/message2787479/pg1

Pedowood - other pedophilia cases amongst the "elite":

http://pastebin.com/ZAFi8xZa

I just wish this was more main stream but we know that main stream news won't touch this subject because it goes after people with more power then they have. This should teach us that news (outlets) are just a slave to the powers that control everything. Its a wake up call for people that are not aware of what is really happening in this world.

Because it's illegal and immoral to print names and details of innocent children in care proceedings. And judging from the hysterical reaction of people on here, it's the correct system to use.

You guys just can't handle transparency without running around like headless chickens.

Your UK laws don't apply here. You are nothing but a TROLL trying to sow seeds of doubt through self promotion. You are not welcome here.

FACT: Anal scarring has been ignored by the Police.

illegal and immoral to print names and details of innocent children

Right, just keep hiding behind the veil of dumb!

New information from around the web:
- Ham&High Local Newspaper. Article relevant to the case
- School teacher just jailed for multiple rapes in UK school, Guardian Article
- Richie Allen (David Icke radio host) interview with Sabine 190215

Keep up the good work. Why isn't this a Sticky anymore?

Royal Courts of Justice - Day 1 of "Fact Finding" hearing on Satanic Ritual Abuse with Belinda Mckenzie: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q-u1VzxWQoo

horrified

I really wish that I would never have read this. I'm physically ill.

These scumbags will NEVER be brought to justice. Who's fooling who?

Yeah, the establishment here in the UK seems to be fairly twisted. I'm particularly disturbed by the apparent foot-dragging in investigations into Rotherham and the parliamentary thing. And whilst it's been in our newspapers I don't think these stories have seen nearly as much coverage as I'd have expected. . .

I totally get that the children in the "we dance with skulls" debacle may have been abused by someone.

But if what the children are saying is true, there are literally hundreds of babies at risk at this very moment of being murdered. The children themselves confessed to participating in the murder of dozens or more children.

This can all be sorted pretty quickly (and MUST be!) by swabbing the mother's and father's apartments and vehicles for DNA that shouldn't be there. The children would have brought home literally hundreds of pieces of DNA evidence on their clothing, shoes, skin, hair, etc.

The current judge seems disinclined to believe the children; the discovery of DNA in the mother's and/or father's homes would immediately reverse her stance and launch a vigorous inquiry.

People are going on and on about custody issues for the living children, but we are talking about many, many other children facing death at this very moment if what Alisa and Gabriel are saying is true. Preventing future deaths must be a priority in this case.

Yet when I bring this up, no one ("no one" consisting largely of the mother's online internet team, I believe) seems interested. "How dare you distract from the issues!!" they scream.

Sorry, but the impending murder of hundreds of children--which is what is imminent according to Alisa and Gabriel--is literally an emergency. Not only that, evidence supporting past murders would be the fastest way to get people to listen to Alisa, Gabriel and their mother regarding their own abuse.

The original YT vid ("Papa kills babies") just went poof.

The silence speaks volumes.

this is "almost certainly a hoax". The youtube comments are overwhelmingly in disagreement. ... UK establishment appears to be awash with sexual child abuse ... over 100 articles from the mainstream press over the last couple of years

So, over 100 articles and a lot of youtube comments constitutes evidence of a pervasive activity?

I think I could demonstrate that cell phones cause emphysema if those were my only constraints.

Both of the kids had scarring on their bottom/anus? Yet both say they don't know how it happened. That part it is a little confusing. Also, how did the police videos get out?

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In the videos dated September 17 that you apparently watched and decided was enough to close the case, so to speak.

My bet's on Abraham or some former, unnamed boyfriend. Or, more sadly yet, the mother herself. Alisa also refers to a girl friend at school who allegedly pressured Alisa to touch her; maybe the real abuse was by this girl? I don't know what the medical report said as far as the age of the scarring.

Maybe it's Abraham since Gabriel said he yelled at them, hit them hard with his hand, hit with a spoon, 'water torture' etc. and they just didn't want to talk about it. It's possible Abraham made up the story to cover his own sexual abuse of them. Abraham sounds like an abusive person, also a bit of a nutcase. Alisa said she thought he was an idiot. She seems smart, definitely the better liar. Not to say anything bad about her though, she was coerced by Abraham to lie.

Again, people time to buy some ammo and a gun or two! Don't wait until its too late!

How is that relevant here?

It is relevant here in order to protect yourself against sick paedophiles and tyrannical governments.

No joke. A shotgun and a handgun is all most families need to defend themselves. Unless the 'mass consciousness awakening' happens soon, we're looking at war. Prepare yourselves friends.

Amen brother. IMO you need a combat rifle before a shotgun or pistol. No idea why we are getting down-voted.

I would recommend everyone gets that milling machine that you can plug into your computer to make your own AR15.

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Redditor for 10 days. First post shaming someone offering no evidence. Jimmy should be outlawed!

There is ample evidence, I haven't worked out to post links yet. Just Google or use whatever search engine you use 'Iran Aid Fraud'

If you can't work out how to post links, I doubt your research skills are up to much either.

I'm concerned about disseminating childrens' faces and other identifying material in relation to a sexual abuse case. There are serious matters of privacy, particularly considering that the allegations made here will follow these children for life. I think it's incumbent upon the community here to protect these children first.

There is also the matter that these are allegations. And while there appears to be some physical evidence of abuse provided by physicians, there is no proof that the claims made by these kids are anything more than confabulation and/or coaching. So, along with protecting the privacy of these children, I think it's also incumbent upon the community to protect the identities of those alleged to have committed crimes.

Remember the Boston Bombing witch hunt fiasco? Reddit should not be the go-to place for organizing vigilante justice.

With that in mind, I've been editing videos as I can. Blurring faces, altering voices, and redacting names and addresses. The fact that this information is in the videos is probably why police have been working with Google et all to remove them from public access. I hope that these redactions will allow dissemination according to the standards of professional newsgathering, thus both meeting the public good and protecting privacy.

So far I've got five done. I'd like some community input before I change them from 'unlisted' to 'public' on Youtube.

09 Sep Cutting Heads Off

09 Sep School Women Sheffield

31 Al and J was in on it

33 Supply of Babies

31 Naming Children and Social Services

I will edit this comment to add links to further edited videos as I can make them. Suggestions for improvement welcome.

EDIT:

34 Sweets, Schools

231 Pappa Kills Babies

235 Starbucks, Pizza Express

236 SS and C------

241 Please Tell the Truth

243 Appealing to Al----

299 Lots and Lots of Sex

301 Distinguishing Marks

302 Distinguishing Marks

303 Killing Babies

304 Tattoos

305 Baby Skin Shoes

306 Stars on Shoes

They're Coming to Kill Us

Police Interview: 11 Sep IV 24 Min 15 47

In the event that these children are being harmed publicity is their protector. Without public attention this case will be swept under the rug -- as it was before the mother desperately reached out to the public.

A fascinating perspective. By your logic, I lack "courage" and "perspective" for blurring the faces and altering the voices of children giving statements in relation to a sexual abuse case.

"Every little consequence". You mean those death threats by a mob brought against innocent people during the Boston Bombing witchhunt right here on Reddit? Because that happened. Really.

Furthermore, disseminating the likeness and identities of these children is a violation of child privacy laws here in the United States and in Great Britain. Furthermore, it's also a violation of Reddit policy to not release personal information nor dox the identities of people.

You are wrong on just about every level.

Fair enough. I'll edit my post.

Why do you only have two comments ever? Seems a little strange...

Because this is a new account. Why does a moderator of /r/conspiracy use the handle 'assuredlyathrowaway'?

I've been on reddit since before the Digg migration, before ViolentAcrez, before it's sale, basically when it ran on lisp out of spez's Davis Square apartment.

Why not judge the work itself rather than the age of this account?

If you've been on Reddit since then, why are you using a new account?

Why not?

Either you've been lurking for years, or you created a new account just to respond to this (which would be strange) or you're lying. Which is it?

First comment?

Another person that sees sense ... I think that makes two of us.

I agree; regardless of whether something bad happened or not, associating kids with allegations of this sort tends to end bad for the kids. Even more so when it's made public.

This post is currently top of r/conspiracy: http://www.reddit.com/r/conspiracy/comments/2wmb0i/i_reuploaded_the_video_of_the_two_children/

I wish there was new info on this

Polygraph tests have a 100% accuracy rate when done properly. Google "The FBI uses polygraphs to eliminate suspects"

You're dreaming if you think anything will be done about organized underground child abuse. People don't want to hear about it, and the media is silent. The law won't do anything, except screw over anyone that comes forward.

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I imagine that real sex rings are not stupid enough to let it get out. They aren't going to scare a kid not to talk, only to have them get courageous one day and spill. That's something a dumb family would do, not a professional criminal organization. Real sex rings probably keep the kids away from anyone on the outside.

Like all organizations, they're made up of people.

People are sloppy, and make mistakes. Especially when emotion gets involved, which I'm sure it does when you're fucking and killing children.

God those poor kids. Gabriel's last video clinches it for me.

http://wideshut.co.uk/judicial-review-hampstead-abuse-allegations-reveal-coaching-likely/

Judicial Review Of Hampstead Abuse Allegations Reveals Coaching Likely

Children retracted their allegations of satanic ring but accused mother’s partner of physical violence – history of abuse recorded.

Check Skater's post history, the links shared on this subject are all from same source. Way to go genius!

I wrote them genius.

:) Ok then... In the spirit of open debate, let me come comment on your pages, but as uncensored/unmoderated user? PM me the account details.

"Fear is the mind killer".

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Good job this isn't the UK then!

May I ask how old you are?

How about this evidence: https://www.scribd.com/doc/256133577/

Again, it contains names and addresses. Please redact the personal info, it's against core Reddit rules.

Too late... All I see is your failure to discuss the evidence, which indicates high chance of shillary. Prove me wrong!

Good God. Alisa, Sep 17 (I), 10:42:50:

Interviewer: You told me about all like, "They all danced 'round with baby skulls." How did you think of that idea?

Alisa: Because he [Abraham Christie] went like this [lowers voice, changes to different accent]: "They dance around with baby skulls in the church don't they?" That's what Abraham told me, and I said, "No they don't!" And he said, "Yes they do, stop lying, little brat," that's what he told me. So then after, I kept on arguing with him that I didn't, and then he said, "I'm not arguing with you, you did do that, stupid little c**t."

It appears that both Gabriel and Alisa changed their stories on September 17, saying that Abraham forced them to lie.

However in all of the previous interviews with the police, dated September 5 and 11, both Alisa and Gabriel confirm -- with considerable detail -- the ritual killings, sexual abuse and so on.

So both of these children changed their stories on the same date.

It's interesting to note that both Gabriel and Alisa are terrible liars. In the videos from September 17 they exhibit all of the hallmarks of a child who is coached or coerced into lying; e.g.., Gabriel fidgets nervously, he evades the questions, he gazes downward before answering, his body posture is guarded, and so on. These mannerisms were strangely absent in the previous videos where he spoke candidly and fluently about the abuse. You can sense the frustration on behalf of the interviewer, who frequently interjects with guiding questions, to get Gabriel to stay on topic. In the previous interviews you will notice that the interviewer does not need to interject nearly as frequently, as Gabriel speaks about his experiences freely and stays on topic.

Furthermore Gabriel gives some very strange, inconsistent answers. When the interviewer asks him if Papa kills babies, Gabriel answers repeatedly, "Some, but not many." Minutes later he states that it's not true, Papa does not kill babies.

People really need to watch these videos and draw their own conclusions.

Edit: I forgot to add that both Alisa and Gabriel say they have "no idea" how they got bruises and scars near their genitalia when asked by the interviewer. Before September 17 they explained that it was due to sexual abuse.

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Exactly.

It's just the opposite. When children are discussing things that truly bother them, they are fidgety and uncomfortable. When they're imagining away, encouraged by an adult to basically have a competition with each other to see who can make up the best story, they're animated. Also, in the final police videos, they quote people saying things--in other words, the remember specific moments, rather than speaking in generalities. "Yes you did, stupid little c**t," as opposed to "We hold the knives..." Someone pointed out elsewhere that an overwhelming number of people telling the truth speak in the past tense ("And then I took the knife and I...") instead of a general tense ("And then we take the knife and we...")

When they're imagining away, encouraged by an adult to basically have a competition with each other to see who can make up the best story, they're animated.

Assuming you could manipulate siblings into playing a "game" where they lie about their father sexually abusing them and so on...

That is not what the children are claiming in the last interview. They claim that they were physically and verbally coerced by Abraham into telling deliberate lies. There was no mention of a light-hearted game, according to both of them Abraham threatened them when they did not give the answers he wanted.

In which case it is exceedingly bizarre that the children appeared to be at ease with telling their stories, despite that they were apparently coerced to do so.

You need to examine your own reasoning more carefully.

I didn't say they were happily animated, and I think it's obvious they were (at times, when together on camera) competing to be the one to tell the stories Abraham was so clearly demanding of them. All I know is that I believe Gabriel when he said he didn't want to see Abraham again and that he hated him. It was heartbreaking when he then voiced his worry that his mother would be so angry she would hate him (Gabriel) in return. I've seen all I need to see. I am well aware that lawyers will attempt to convince a jury that Steve was "leading" the children; all that jury will have to see is the other set of videos to know who's doing the true leading. So I guess you'd call releasing the videos a bad move on "Papa Hemp's" part. I hope the guy is put on trial, like, yesterday, and I have felt that way pretty much from the first moment I saw his or Ella's hand come out of the side of the frame in one video and shove Gabriel's face back toward the camera.

Interesting, I don't find your conclusions to be reasonable at all.

Alisa said she was scared to tell the truth because she'd get in trouble for lying about the babies, dad abusing her, etc. Gabriel probably felt the same.

They obviously aren't terrible liars, people believed them. One (I forget which now) said they lie all the time.

They changed their story because the interviewer said they won't get in trouble for telling the truth. Alisa said was afraid she'd go to jail for lying.

When they're making the satanic abuse claims, it's like they're excited to be telling a story. But when they tell the truth, their demeanor changes when they come clean.

That's what I see.

They changed their story because the interviewer said they won't get in trouble for telling the truth

That was already established in the previous interviews, where the children stick to their story. In the September 17 video the policeman reminds them that they can tell the truth, as he's told them throughout the process. So that does not explained why they changed their stories.

I've never seen any child make up such a vivid, consistent and realistic fantasy. Of course people will laugh when I say that allegations of ritual satanic abuse are "realistic"; but I'm referring to how to is described. For example, the children detail in explicit, practical detail how to kill a baby and drain it's blood. In the same manner they describe horrendous sexual abuse.

Yet in the September 17 videos they appear evasive, nervous, fidgeting. Gabriel appears especially shy and nervous, even though in the previous interviews he's established a comfortable rapport with the policeman.

It's quite clear to me that these children were in touch with their father or an authority figure who coerced them into retracting their story -- but that's just me. As I've said many times, it's very difficult to get children to lie effectively; you can always tell when a child is telling the truth and when he is not.

Poor kids, really. My heart goes out to them. Whatever the truth is this is an awful situation.

In the video she said she was afraid to tell the truth because she thought she'd got to jail for lying. If the kids were lying, don't you think they'd be nervous when coming clean? You have to allow the possibility they were lying in your thinking to see that.

If she was afraid of going to jail for lying she would have been nervous about lying in the first place. I'm sorry but children simply do not tell lies with such confidence and consistency. When they are (knowingly) lying they look guilty and nervous because deception is a learned trait. It does not come naturally to young children.

Again, I remember one said that they lie all the time. When I was a kid I could lie pretty good. And when a kid lies they can seem a bit excited about it. Kids aren't dumb, they know if they look like they're lying they won't be believed. They know if they seem confident they'll be believed. I think you have it kinda backwards.

Lol so you think its possible to violently coerce two young children into telling heinous lies about their father in front of a policeman without sounding coerced, nervous, and so on?

You understand these children aren't making up stories about their teacher or their friend... But their father. And they do so with the utmost confidence in several interviews with the police.

You're not considering the context.

I hear you, but I think it's possible they could lie without being too nervous, especially if they're experienced like they said.

Do you really think all the teachers as well as parents could be killing and eating babies, molesting 20 kids at a school for so long without it getting out earlier? If something like that was happening in real life, the kids would never be allowed outside of the criminal group. Even if you threaten their lives if they tell, there's a chance they still might.

The boy Gabriel is 8 years old. So I find it highly unlikely that he is a well trained liar.

And yes of course its possible -- if not likely given the overwhelming evidence that this has happened in the past.

The children claimed to have killed dozens of other children. A thorough DNA swab of Ella's house will put that to rest. DNA doesn't go away, and if even ONE missing child's DNA is in that home it would be enough to substantiate Gabriel's claim--which, as you suggest, was the honest statement of a boy who had really killed dozens of babies. If he had, his room, clothing, hair, shoes, Abraham's car, Abraham's friend's black cab, and all the rest would be absolutely covered (by forensic standards) with the DNA of dozens of murder victims. Gabriel put it best: I hate Abraham. I don't want to see him.

Exactly the school, church and homes of the accused should be raided by the police.

You have to show probable cause for a raid. However, a DNA swab of Ella's house should be something she welcomes, requires no warrant, and can be acted on immediately. This will swiftly substantiate the children's claim to have participated in murders, and the judge will not hesitate to then issue a warrant to examine the other homes.

En verra.

If Ella were sincere about proving the children's story, she'd have had the apartment gone over with a fine toothed comb by a professional and/or state forensic service. Never noticed it before, but in the image for this very topic, you can see the wound on Alisa's chin which she says Abraham gave her in Morocco. She says he did it with a metal spoon.

Okay, so I just watched those police videos. The girl says in the later video that Abraham, the stepfather, told them to say those things and even told her to lie for the first police interview and she was too scared not to lie. The children were coached by the stepfather and mum to lie, it's only after a few days away from the parents she felt comfortable in telling the truth. Having studied psychology, you can tell in the latter videos, the girl is more relaxed and not afraid to speak the truth that the stories were all made up. Look at the facts people. There is no Satanic cult going on here. Just mental abuse by parents to get custody of the children and move them back to Russia.

What about the medical report proving anal sexual abuse?

Agreed.

Have you considered the step father as the child rapist? Or is a Satanic cult more believable?

Have you considered the step father as the child rapist.

1. There is no evidence to suggest this.
2. If this was true there would be a police investigation already.
3. AC is not the stepfather (one word).

1. What about the medical report proving anal sexual abuse?
2. There is an investigation underway. That's why there are videos of interviews.
3. Step-father or mother's boyfriend, you know who I was referring to.

1. This indicates sexual abuse has taken place, not who did it.
2. Please refer to the document "DETAILED STATEMENT of GROUNDS for JUDICIAL REVIEW" in the Judicial Review Folder:
   "On 22 September 2014, the CRIS report says that the case was closed “Crime not confirmed.”"
3. Doesn't matter what I think you were referring to, state the facts!

I recommend you read all the documents before making any more posts, they might disappear soon too.

Take your own advice dude. Recent articles point to the mother's boyfriend having a history of abusing his own children. Not to mention, as soon as these kids were taken out of their home, and away from Abraham, they changed their story. That's because he couldn't hurt them anymore, so they didn't have to lie for him anymore. Think more critically. Your mind was made up far too early in this story. You would be terrible on a jury...

Aww, no more 1,2,3? Struggling to rebut the facts I laid out?

Show the me the evidence to support these new claims of your's instead of just typing a load of drivel!

This article was in the header. You are not as smart as you think you are, you come off as a pretentious douche when someone doesn't believe your point of view.

That is only ONE article, you said "articles" as in more than one, show me another otherwise you are talking nonsense!

Ha ha... fuck you and your semantics. I'm not playing your stupid game anymore.

:) My "stupid" game of truth.

A balanced view

http://wideshut.co.uk/children-speak-abuse-murder-creepy-youtube-videos/

Please note this account is only here to muddy the waters. Redditor for 10 days, no post history.

The link being referred to is from one of the most bias sites I have come across, also just so happens to be the top google link when searching using "Hampstead Abuse". Try with duckduckgo.com for balanced search results :)

I was referring to astrology, we've entered (or are about to enter, depending on who you talk to) Aquarius which is the "Age of Knowing", when all that's been hidden will inevitably be revealed, among other things.

Also the 17 Sept Alisa. Looks like that's the day they told the truth.

I said "sexual abuse". Please discuss in the context I have given.

En verra.

From the document named "DETAILED STATEMENT of GROUNDS for JUDICIAL REVIEW" in the Judicial Review Folder.

On 22 September 2014, the CRIS report says that the case was closed “Crime not confirmed.”

I suggest you read all the documents before making any more posts.

1. What about the medical report proving anal sexual abuse?
2. There is an investigation underway. That's why there are videos of interviews.
3. Step-father or mother's boyfriend, you know who I was referring to.

1. This indicates sexual abuse has taken place, not who did it.
2. Please refer to the document "DETAILED STATEMENT of GROUNDS for JUDICIAL REVIEW" in the Judicial Review Folder:
   "On 22 September 2014, the CRIS report says that the case was closed “Crime not confirmed.”"
3. Doesn't matter what I think you were referring to, state the facts!

I recommend you read all the documents before making any more posts, they might disappear soon too.

It's called whistleblowing and no, it's not pleasant. The mother has already lost her children and may never get them back, hence the release of this information. What would you do if pedophiles took away your child?

I suggest you research Lowell Goddard before jumping to conclusions. Where is here statement on these videos?

911 truth movement? You do know you are on r/conspiracy? Please dont use ad-hominem attacks. Please stick to dicussing the facts about this case.

How do you come by this Information?

I think we should also be archiving as much info as possible as soon as it becomes available - download all videos and documents before they get removed.

You're just rude. We don't need bad vibes here.

This whole thread is bad vibes. And showing the children's images is gross.

1. He tried to prove the above FACT wrong and failed, then tries to insult me!
   
2. We are not interested in just opinions.
   
3. We are interested in discussing the evidence.
   

Given this, the fact that you come to his defence is very strange.

If you've been on Reddit since then, why are you using a new account?