Anybody look at the stars tonight?
5 2015-03-17 by Bansquirt
I was looking at the stars tonight and I saw some strange shit moving across the sky. I could barely see it, but it looked like 5 little blue dots (looked like stars) in a v-shaped pattern hauling fucking ass across the sky. And then I kept looking and it kept coming around again and again from one corner of my eye and I could watch it for about 4-5 seconds before it was out of sight. Never seen anything like that in my day. Could it be surveillance or aliens? Idk, what do you guys think?
43 comments
7 _Raptor_ 2015-03-17
location matters the most in something like this.
3 Bansquirt 2015-03-17
Southern central Illinois, sir.
3 arynx 2015-03-17
As tensions rise between nuclear nation states... It does make one wonder...
3 METATRON713 2015-03-17
You saw a TR6 Telos courtesy of Northrop Grumman
Edit: You saw a few too. Interesting.
5 Bansquirt 2015-03-17
Whaat in tha fuck is that thing? Should I be tweakin?
4 METATRON713 2015-03-17
It's a $30 billion dollar continent destroyer that can change existence for all mankind with the push of a button. I know they can dock with each other too. Probably what you got to see.
5 quicklypiggly 2015-03-17
The information in the infographic seems believable except for:
An extant "electrogravitic" generator would have required a profound breakthrough in science similar to Leyden jars. Such a technology that would allow for seamless shifting between flight and even limited, extra-atmosphere space travel would require a new source of energy.
6 METATRON713 2015-03-17
It's still a toy compared to one of their motherships. The fastest plane we know about is over 50 years old now. The retired space shuttles were designed half a century ago. To think there isn't better yet is selling humanity short.
4 metabolix 2015-03-17
Where can we read more about this kind of technology?
0 METATRON713 2015-03-17
Just read everything about Northrop Grumman. You'll notice who runs the planet if you read enough. Their official site and YouTube channel had me locked in for hours. It's amazing and sad what they can do. Sad because we could all live in Utopia in hours if we got our hands on their tech. It's not even hidden either. They just know they out gun everyone and brag about it openly.
2 quicklypiggly 2015-03-17
You know there are five big defense companies, right? By descending arms sales:
Why are you focusing on the third largest player? They're not somehow more powerful, insidious, or a threat to our world than the other four. They are all worthy of heavy scrutiny.
1 METATRON713 2015-03-17
NG has Nuclear Supercarriers with nuclear arms on it. NG has the B2 Bombers that are nuclear armed. NG has the GlobalHawk drone that is nuclear armed. NG has directed energy weapons. NG has The James Web Telescope and its twins. NG owns parts of General Electric that put them way over everyone in your list on top of that. They own parts of some of the groups you listed too. I didn't even get into their survelience systems that are beyond belief.
Edit: Firepower
1 quicklypiggly 2015-03-17
The US government--DoD--has the B2 bombers, a contracted company builds them.
You're going to have to provide valid citations for the statement that NG owns parts of the other companies.
1 fomhoraigh 2015-03-17
You... do realize what company that is, don't you?
1 quicklypiggly 2015-03-17
You... do realize that doesn't mean that they maintain control over the operation of the aircraft well after construction, don't you?
1 fomhoraigh 2015-03-17
I'd be extremely surprised if B-2s were not outfitted with control electronics that NG commands.
1 quicklypiggly 2015-03-17
This just doesn't make any sense. I've never smelled a more rotten red herring than an attempt to blame all of the world's ills on a single, nefarious US government defense contractor. There are many players complicit in a larger game. The military-industrial complex is not a monolith and there is absolutely no precedent or justification for the interpretation that Northrop Grumman is a single, unduly powerful "Big Bad".
This is all not rational. Notice how I am not insulting you as a "conspiracy theorist"? I believe in lots of conspiracies. My point is that this posit is not valid. It is not falsifiable, it is not a rational assumption anymore than the idea that there is a cabal of less than a hundred exclusively Jewish men making unilateral executive decisions for the world.
The reality of the suppression of the majority of the human populace is incredibly complicated. I do not claim to know every detail, but I do understand that it is not as simplistic as one evil power over all.
0 METATRON713 2015-03-17
I'm not here to jump when you say jump. Nothing will change your made up mind. I don't like hardheaded know it alls. Best wishes.
-1 quicklypiggly 2015-03-17
It's an example of supporting your claims. I am amazed that you didn't even link some fringe site.
Evidence would change my mind. You are describing yourself.
Don't post this specious nonsense anymore. You don't even discuss it with a modicum of sense. There are five large defense companies and you are irrationally, unhealthfully obsessed with that one. Many people in this sub think you are spreading disinformation.
0 METATRON713 2015-03-17
This makes me think of you as stupid. Prove to me you are worth more of my time and I can fill your screen with blue.
1 quicklypiggly 2015-03-17
I don't care at all. If you don't understand that the US government is the wealthiest company in the world, you don't understand anything.
2 METATRON713 2015-03-17
Money isn't shit to anyone that matters. Balls matter. NG has the US in its pocket right next to some nuclear launch codes they save for a rainy day. You aren't use to the real Mafia tactics that run the world I guess.
1 quicklypiggly 2015-03-17
Are you joking? Whatever.
1 METATRON713 2015-03-17
I'm dead serious. You act like the World plays by the rules. Get real.
1 quicklypiggly 2015-03-17
You're just not making any sense across your comments. The world is not as represented, but you are completely irrational. You are hostile and antagonistic to those who sympathetically attempt to understand your points and criticize where valid.
The only "rules" that I suggested were followed were the values in certain financial accounts and the contracts and treaties maintained between nations. Lawyers and politicians look for whatever holes they can, but the appearance of propriety is maintained at several levels.
1 METATRON713 2015-03-17
Let's start over. Please tell us what op saw. I said it was some TR6s. You said?
1 quicklypiggly 2015-03-17
...you can read through the comments. This isn't a spoken conversation.
1 METATRON713 2015-03-17
I did. I didn't see you mention what you thought op saw.
Practice what you preach.
1 quicklypiggly 2015-03-17
This is ridiculous and not even a cogent discussion anymore. I am done; go ahead with the last word.
1 METATRON713 2015-03-17
So what did the op see?
2 quicklypiggly 2015-03-17
You should point out not that the SR71 was invented fifty years ago (so was basic packetized data transfer over copper lines), but that it was officially retired in 1998. That is, to me, the salient point that illustrates the necessity--in the eyes of the military--for something better to have taken its place.
Still, I don't find it credible that any human beings are able to manipulate gravity contemporaneously as we do not yet have a dominant theory for the nature of its mediating particle nor is there even a consensus as to whether it even has a mediating particle. However, the idea of a "TR6 Telos" is interesting in that the V-shape of lights is often observed in the rare, clear night video recordings of UFOs.
1 whipnil 2015-03-17
Check out r/holofractal.
The geometry of the vector matrix is encoded in the flower of life that we see repeatedly in ancient civilisations. When you consider the potential that these civs were founded by ET's, makes you wonder what kind of things you could do with that kind of knowledge of the structure of space is organised.
2 quicklypiggly 2015-03-17
I don't mean to be condescending, but I would suggest that you do not really understand what that sub is about.
0 whipnil 2015-03-17
What do you mean by that?
I feel I have quite a good grasp as to what's going on there and the theory itself.
2 quicklypiggly 2015-03-17
You related the concept to extraterrestrials seeding ancient civilizations. Exogenesis (or panspermia) and holographic/fractal universes are... extraordinarily different as scientific theories and would require substantial work for sensible relation.
0 whipnil 2015-03-17
I don't think so.
If you check out Graham Hancock's work, I think it's essentially conclusive that there was an earlier advanced civilisation that had spread across the world. By exploring that link further, you find it highly likely that many of the myths of Atlantis actually have some degree of factual accuracy to them. Many P Hall talks about the seeding of many of the civilisations that preceded this by a strange being that disseminated knowledge from the fallen civilisation. The presence of the flower of life pattern within these same civilisations suggests that this, along with the pyramidal structure and their rigorous understandings of astronomy may have been some of the knowledge that was passed on.
When you look at the fate of this lost civilisation, you find it most likely that it perished in a giant cataclysm some 12 500 years ago. This raises some interesting similarities with some of the events of the old testament, as well as the sources that the Sumerian's acquired their knowledge from. This Sumerian story also references sky people who descended on the planet and seeded the earlier civilisation.
Now when we start to look at some of the mysteries of this alternative archeological record, we discover extremely sophisticated and precise construction techniques and in a sense a coordinated global effort to position many of these mysterious structures in an astronomical map. The construction of these structures is also shrouded in mystery simply from the sheer force necessary to build them. The great pyramid of Giza would have required one stone to be laid every 3 minutes for it be constructed by the 100 000 slaves in the apparent 20 years.
If we consider perhaps that this earlier civilisation that precedes all the others had access to some advanced technology and were in fact sky people (ET's) as suggested by the story of the Annunaki and books such as the the lost book of enki (which has significant overlap again with the old testament) it becomes possible that some of the information that passed on through to the other civilisations was in fact information regarding the structure of the cosmos, that when understood could allow one to derive an abundance of energy from the vacuum.
Now when we look at Haramein's work, we see that this is indeed what is postulated from his theory. From his work, we find that the universe is indeed interconnected and at any point, there is the entire information of the universe encoded. From this it becomes possible to derive more information both about the micro and macro worlds, similar to the saying "as above, so below". This theory also posits the presence of wormholes through the fabric of space that it is possible to travel through and drastically reduce the travel time for interplanetary, interstellar or even intergalactic travel.
I can add more if you're interested, or if this is falling on deaf ears I might just stop here to not waste my time.
0 METATRON713 2015-03-17
I don't believe in ETs. Humans are all over the universe. If I had to mix the two topics I would say Early Humans taught Newer Humans how to manipulate time and space to keep most of us here.
-1 Drytruth 2015-03-17
But dude! This pattern is, like, really pretty! Ergo, all technology is real and wormholes and quantum flux and blah blah blah!
0 METATRON713 2015-03-17
We are not Northrop Grumman and they have it.
1 quicklypiggly 2015-03-17
You're talking about science versus technology. Most people would be surprised at any extant ability to manipulate gravity--not because the technology hasn't been invented, but because the technology is inconceivable due to a lack of scientific understanding. You're presupposing that they've researched and mastered an entirely novel branch of physics completely in secret for decades. Nothing that occurred in the mid-20th century and now-declassified comes close to that kind of revelation.
0 METATRON713 2015-03-17
The nuclear bomb was a secret too.
1 quicklypiggly 2015-03-17
But the physics behind the device was well understood for decades before its clandestine creation followed soon thereafter by its extremely public revelation. There is no real understanding of how one would even begin to go about manipulating gravity.
1 iamagod_____ 2015-03-17
It's funny. Those who promote the holocaust also promote fake as fuck aliens.
2 quicklypiggly 2015-03-17
I don't mean to be condescending, but I would suggest that you do not really understand what that sub is about.
0 whipnil 2015-03-17
What do you mean by that?
I feel I have quite a good grasp as to what's going on there and the theory itself.
-1 Drytruth 2015-03-17
But dude! This pattern is, like, really pretty! Ergo, all technology is real and wormholes and quantum flux and blah blah blah!
0 METATRON713 2015-03-17
I'm not here to jump when you say jump. Nothing will change your made up mind. I don't like hardheaded know it alls. Best wishes.
0 METATRON713 2015-03-17
This makes me think of you as stupid. Prove to me you are worth more of my time and I can fill your screen with blue.
1 fomhoraigh 2015-03-17
You... do realize what company that is, don't you?
1 quicklypiggly 2015-03-17
Are you joking? Whatever.