Anger is good, violence is not.

Yes, I believe you would be. His actions are because he feels disaffected from the group. For some reason he has dehumanised himself or others and by doing so he is able to hurt his fellow human beings. You must show him forgiveness and compassion and attempt to include him to a greater degree in the community so that when he feels that connection it is impossible for him to wrong others. Easier said than done, I know, but it's still the right thing to do.

Sociopathy exists, btw.

Not that this excuses murder, but you can't fix everything with rainbows and unicorns.

I'm well aware they exist and though myself and many others suffer as a result of their actions I still feel compassion and understanding for them as they do not get to experience the joy of meaningful relationships. It's the worst kind of punishment really.

And don't patronise me with that bullshit. Have you tried truly projecting a positive outlook or do you simply wallow in negativity and say there's no way it will work?

It's never worked before. You can change a sociopath by convincing them they benefit from acting proper, but not from rewarding them after they walk all over you.

Sociopaths actively seek those types of people out and abuse them.

Then I suggest you try again. If you perceive people to be good then you will see the good in them, if you perceive some people to be beyond salvation then you will dehumanise them and become cruel and callous yourself. This reality is a lesson for us. The ones who need love the most are the ones who ask for it in the strangest of ways.

I would request a citation for your claim but I know you don't have one. How would you know how many sociopaths have been redeemed through the unconditional love of others?

Have a squizz at this: http://abcnews.go.com/Health/scientist-related-killers-learns-psychopaths-brain/story?id=21029246&singlePage=true

The died to give you the opportunity to practice forgiveness and compassion to a race that suffers every day, in that they are disconnected from source and disconnected from love. These beings are simply at the extreme end of the polarity that exists in the universe. You may wish to exterminate them, but in essence you are only exterminating an element of yourself.

They have made themselves almost untouchable, they are not an element of myself, they very much want to rid the world of your polarity and people like you along with it. There is no reasoning with those who have no reason. Their boredom is not my responsibility and it is our natural born right to defend ourselves against an imminent threat. At this point in time your mindset is nothing less than suicide, which is the ultimate sin.

Worse than suicide. His argument is that we should love them while they torture our children.

Go ahead and love your enemies; just make sure they are good and fucking dead first.

Dude, you should listen to yourself. Maybe they can rid this world of my polarity, but the thoughts I project outwards are something that will exist in the universe eternally and that cannot be gotten rid of. We have SUCH a limited perspective from this vantage point. How can you make any of your claims with any degree of certainty? We are immortal beings, we have nothing to fear but fear itself, as it is that which creates and empowers the demons that haunt us.

While it seems these other facets dont, the piece that is me appreciates the wisdom you share.

The thing about the universe is that it zooms in and out but remains unchanged from atoms to solar systems. Our perspective is perfectly adequate enough to determine right and wrong, and cause and effect. No living being on earth goes down without a fight, even plants have some sort of defense mechanism. I'm nowhere near afraid but I do wonder about your depression. Your abnegation isnt fooling anybody.

I'm not saying you can't defend yourself or remove the offenders capacity to do harm to others. I'm just saying don't treat them like a piece of shit in the process.

You wonder about my depression? Dude, if you knew me you'd find that's so far from the truth haha. I love my life and everyone in it.

Id like to stick all of the people we're talking about into a locked basement with a fireplace and a single baseball bat. We'll see how that side of the spectrum naturally handles those circumstances.

Well then, I'd say that's pretty fucked up and you should have a good think about what you're saying.

Hahaha. I don't know where you're at regarding hyperdimensional entities, but this emotional energy that you're projecting outwards at them is exactly the energy they thrive off. As they are disconnected from source, they require generating negative energy to nourish them and maintain their existence. Once you accept that these entities exist, yet their very existence means that life/soul/spirit is infinitely more intricate than we perceive from this limited perspective. It's great that you feel so strongly towards the injustices of the world, but if there was no negativity in the world, how can we experience the relativity of goodness?

I don't know about the circumstances of your life, but I myself definitely experience goodness that is not itself just goodness relative to shitness. I share wonderful connections and experiences with beautiful people. I believe there is a certain universality to these moments of goodness as they are fundamentally expressions of love.

I do totally agree with you that it's all a matter of perspective though. That's why it's so important to choose what perspective you examine things from. This experience is itself, so far removed from the universal neutral that when we are connected with our true nature, the contrast will be like nothing we've ever experienced before even in our most ecstatic moments. This is happening too. It's hard to choose to perceive this when you solely focus on the negativity, but if you spend some time looking at the potential for transformative action from other arenas you may find there is still many reasons to be optimistic.

Namely, get acquainted with Nassim Haramein's work and the implications of it. Zero point energy is coming, plato was right, lost knowledge will be rediscovered, financial reset, the end of cabal rule, disclosure, connections with our intergalactic family will be made, ascension.

There is still love. Romantic love and love are different aspects of the same phenomena. Everyone experiences love to a degree, and it's the reason why they attach a value to their life. If there was no positive experience, then there would be no reason to fear nothingness as it would be a reprieve from the endless suffering they endure. They experience it from their family, for their pets, for nature, for themselves. It's an irrational force that makes you endure the shitness of this world of suffering.

I don't dispute that most don't experience it to it's full extent though. That's why I try to radiate it in my life and surround myself by people who do likewise. The results are profound. But as I said before, this is by design. There's been technology deployed that interferes with our capacity to experience it. We've been subsisting on a diet of way less love than we are actually supposed to be receiving. That's what's going to make the transition so dramatic when it occurs and this technology is eliminated ;)

You're an amazing human being. Keep spreading this wisdom friend.

Thanks friend. You must be too if it's resonating with you :)

At some point the lose of your own self in the action has to take center stage, unless you are willing to die for this person to continue being as they are. All people cannot be saved. Humanity is neither good nor bad, we are at our core inherently selfish. It has to be that way evolutionarily or we would not survive as a species. The only time we are not inherently selfish is with children, which also furthers our species survival.

I agree with your premise, but there is no way to know if said person can ever feel that connection, how long that connection would take, or how great the loss while you wait for him to accept that connection. If he is beating everyone else up, there is a good chance he has suffered in life already and the part that would make a connection is broken. In a perfect world we could save everyone. But sometimes the risk of loss is too great.

And thats when the selfish need to survive and thrive takes over and violence becomes necessary. While I simply love your outlook, humanity cannot thrive with that type of principle. A sociapathic killer could kill dozens, even hundreds, before finally making a connection with his/her fellow man. Are those peoples lives expendable to reach one person? The greater good would dictate the person has to go. The selfish desire to survive says to choose my own well being first over his. Violence is a means to an end if necessary.

You've presented a false dichotomy there. I'm not saying I would just lay down and say kill me, I love you. It is possible to apprehend this person and remove them from society without having to murder them. In removing them from society it's also possible to still treat them with compassion and respect rather than just an animal that we want to hurt and maim in retribution for their actions. That's some primitive shit right there.

Humanity has survived with this kind of principle in the past. The Australian Aborigines survived as a continual culture for 50 000 years and the laws they practiced were essentially ones that tried to re-include any offenders back into society (though with some kind of physical punishment as well). Sure they killed others in tribal warfare etc, but that in my mind was due to a limited perspective, seeing those of another tribe as different from themselves.

I think violence is good when it is necessary for survival. In fact, life you could argue that life is basically half predicated upon violence. After all, no life would exist without catabolism.

The amount of downvotes for stating that I'm against violence surely is interesting.

Violence isn't inherently bad. It depends on the cause and what the other options are. This nation should never forget that it was formed in the violence of the revolutionary war. Violence for the sake of violence is wrong. Violence with a purpose is a tool.