/r/worldnews secretly deleting posts exposing genocide in Ukraine

187  2015-03-20 by Balangan

Check my post history and you'll notice that all the posts concerning the genocide in Ukraine have been deleted without explanation, despite the fact that they broke no rules whatsoever. I didn't even notice until another redditor alerted me of the fact.

Something is seriously wrong with the entire global socio-economic system if the "free world" supports and covers up genocide in Europe's largest country, including on the Internet. You have to aggressively deceive yourself not to see it.

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This was my last post before I got secretly shadowbanned from /r/worldnews:

The US government is paying people to post anti-Russian propaganda online. Look at the profiles of some of these posters in this thread- they registered a year ago or earlier, and their only posts are anti-Putin and anti-Russian propaganda.

As soon as you post anything against the corporate media narrative, you get massively down voted within minutes.

Quite telling, I think.

Worldnews mod here. Just to let you know Balangan, you are not banned from the sub, your comments were being removed by the sub's automod because your comment karma is sufficiently negative... it doesn't have anything to do with your stance on Ukraine. Automod is set to auto-remove comments from users who have excessively negative karma... this is done to assist in protecting the sub from spammers, trolls, bridgaders, etc. Unfortunately, you got caught up in that because of your low karma. I went ahead and approved all those comments manually, but in the future, so we don't have to manually approve all comments you make to the sub and so you can interact with the sub normally, it would be good to try and built up your karma elsewhere on Reddit so this won't be an issue. If you are unable to, however, feel free to message the worldnews mods and we can manually approve any submissions/comments you make.

Edit: clarity

Question: why wouldn't the user know that the comment was deleted?

It seems sneaky that the user believes the comment is still up and only finds out by signing out of their account and clicking the permalink.

Reddit is not set up so that users are automatically notified or made aware when their submissions are removed by mods... not for just worldnews, but for any sub. I think some subs do had bots that send messages to users when that does happen, but I can't think of any those subs off the top of my head.

You don't understand what I am saying. I am not talking about being notified.

I am talking about the fact that YOU see your comment even though nobody else does.

If mods delete my comment because it breaks a rule, then I do not see it anymore. But there is another way to delete a comment, one that shows the user their comment but nobody else. That is what I am talking about.

As far as I know, there is no way in Reddit for a user to look at their personal user history and know which comments (that are visible to themselves) were removed from the view of other users by either the mods or admins.

Also, while I have you. OP has mentioned that he cannot make a submission to your subreddit with both the words Ukraine and Genocide in the title. Why is that?

Like I said above, that is not the case. His comments are being removed because of his excessively negative karma score... not because of anything having to do with specific words they use. In fact, the OP made a submissions to the sub HERE just last month that had the word 'Ukranian' in it.

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You are a fucking idiot for going on autopilot moderating a significant subreddit like that. Go fuck yourself.

I have had comments deleted before, they show deleted in the thread, to me and everyone else.

What you are doing in r/worldnews is basically shadow-deleting people's comments. So it appears to them and they assume everyone else see's it too. The only way to find out is to be suspicious, sign out of your account, and then click the permalink button under the comment.

Hmmm, as far as I have ever personally seen (and I have been on Reddit for awhile), comments removed by mods are not visibly removed by those users... they are only seen as removed if that user logs out. Can you show me screenshots of your comments from somewhere being shown as removed? That is not something I am familiar with seeing, but maybe some subs do that... but none that I am aware of.

If I had not seen the comment deleted with my own eyes (while logged in) then I wouldn't even know that it was deleted, and I have had comments deleted before and I am pretty sure it was even in r/worldnews.

Of course it would be difficult to go back and find them, being that they were deleted and it was a while ago and from a different account. Anyways, so I guess we will just have to end it there, thanks for answering my questions though, I do appreciate it.

Of course. Have a good day!

your comments were being removed by the sub's automod because your comment karma is sufficiently negative

What a perfect system to encourage downvoting brigades and allow the mob to push their version of "reality" by sheer force.

manually approve submissions

Lmao fuck off...

Honestly, they as a community are entitled to do whatever they feel like, right or wrong.
I also doubt this one mod could change much if anything of a sub that size.
The mod reaching out to this post and explaining how things work shouldn't be looked down upon, regardless if you agree w the justifications.

After seeing the blatant corruption and childish nature of the mods over there, I wouldn't entrust any of them to "manually approve" any narrative. Even more so when his submissions clearly go against their pre-constructed reality they want the reddit hivemind to believe. The fact that he gave that sissy bullshit answer is a slap in the face to us.

When one cop watches another abuse his power and does nothing about it, doesn't that make him an accomplice?

I see, and I don't disagree. I guess after hearing this topic come up consistently, I quickly brush it off because it's how reddit functions.

Honestly, they as a community are entitled to do whatever they feel like

No, they actually aren't. And if you don't understand this then I feel sorry for you.

Fuck you, take your sympathy some where else I don't need shit.
Reddit consists of subreddits. You fucking understand that? And you can go make a subreddit, and enforce whatever the fuck you want to. That is what reddit is. Not some pure ethical news source. You don't take an ethics class to become a moderator.

You missed the part where worldnews was a legit subreddit and then got taken over during the past 5 years and turned into a propaganda outlet run by psychos.

But I guess that is all okay with you because "hurr durr, people can do whatever they want guise".

Yes people can do whatever they want when it comes to enforcing subreddits. Whether they should do those things is not the same.

FYI, you can't be shadowbanned from a sub, only banned by a mod. A shadowban is site wide and can only be done by an admin.

And remember: you can bypass even shadowbans simply by using Tor browser. I've been IP shadowbanned twice :D

Spread this around.

You're doing it right! Keep up the good work, it's important to upset the status quo.

What do you call it when your posts show up to you, but not to anybody else? And not to you either when you log out of your account?

I guess automod banned, sub-shadowbanned. You absolutely can set a user's submissions to be removed by default, although it is different to an admin level shadowban.

This is correct, many of the larger and default subs use this tactic.

Which is why I believe reddit should be replaced by something else, why the fuck are posts deletable anyway? at most downvoted to shit, but not deleted...

They always have been, mods have had the power to remove posts and ban users since I've been on this site. I don't think that in and of itself is the issue, the issue is when these powers (like all powers) are abused.

Rather.

Keep fighting the good fight!

That's also the case on this board, I posted these videos and got massively downvoted- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9cQ2ddv4qQU https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T65SwzHAbes

100% agree

Honestly, /r/worldnews is full of paid shills. Are there still normal people frequenting that sub?

Just report them here: /r/Shill

I used to, till I decided to check out r/conspiracy. So glad I found out about it! Almost everyone on world news believes all the MSM talking points and all kinds of other hogwash

The very few times I visit that toxic place I actually saw a post or two that told the truth about things and it actually had a fair amount of people supporting the non-MSM-view.

But yeah, usually it's some weird, shill infested circle jerk.

/r/Ukrainianconflict would appreciate your posts.

/r/Ukrainianconflict like /r/worldnews auto-deletes my posts without an explanation. I sent a message asking what rules I've broken, but didn't get a response.

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Make sure you ask BipolarBear0, he's usually very fair and quick to respond on theses issues.

Heh! He's the Poster Boy for mod corruption in Reddit.

This must be the evilest thing I've seen today.

how dare you expose the genocide is Ukraine, you should know better you will be downvoted. I think a site where there are no mods or other forms of controls alwoed. Everyone should have an opinion doesnt matter if it is bad or good

Do you have any screenshot proof?

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Can you provide any news links about the genocide?

Thanks for the link.

You do realize that global research is a straight up propaganda site, right? They disregard actual facts to fit their agenda, and have been caught flat-out lying to try to justify/deny the Bosnian genocide.

Thanks for posting. It gives a little more visibility to your excellent posting history.

Many people talk about conspiracies such as WATERGATE, IRAN-CONTRA, THE S & L (Savings and Loan) SCANDAL, THE FEDERAL RESERVE, OCTOBER SURPRISE, KENNEDY, THE FREEMASONS, THE COUNCIL ON FOREIGN RELATIONS and THE TRILATERAL COMMISSION, and even GREY ALIENS, but very few people know the real facts enough to explain them because they are not researched themselves. As information comes down the pipeline it becomes distorted and confused because most of the people passing along the information do not know the entire story, they have not researched much information themselves, and they tend to be biased as well.

I thought world news was on our side then in the the comments on an Israel post everyone is playing the anti Semite card

You're in better company here.

Posting the truth to /r/worldnews is about as rewarding as banging your head against a brick wall, but if you MUST then I suggest you either create a new username or do something (prostitute yourself) to shake off your negative comment karma - it is almost certainly this which is causing your posts not to be visible.