Maxwell's credibility you mean, or Cooper's? Here's a video by Chris White debunking Maxwell as well. Largely White claims that while Maxwell appears to "expose" the occult, in truth he is actually promoting it.
Jordan Maxwell is a seething douche. Once you realize that his bullshit word play has no connection to etymology or philology he becomes a combination of laughable and pathetic.
I know a lot of OTO and Masons. The lower ranks are just dudes. As in all things the higher you go the more corrupt and the less like the spirit of the organization. For me it's not about the Masons or whatever; it's about psychopaths abusing whatever system they can to gain power - in this case it's government and corporations. If we lived under a different system the same psychopaths would simply try to abuse that other system. The systems are irrelevant. It's the people controlling the systems.
It's a psychological issue - not an ideological one.
I agree with you that they could use nearly any different system to achieve their goals.. but from what I have seen it's about more than them just being psychopaths or opportunists. At the very top there is some agenda or ideology that has driven this group for a very very long time.
I'm aware of the speculations regarding high weirdness.
Frankly I don't care anymore.
I'm more interested in breaking free from these people than analyzing and speculating about esoteric and hidden motives. At the end of the day it's more important to be free from these freaks than to understand them. I'm still interested in "understanding my enemy", mind you - it's just that my priorities and focus have shifted. I'm interested in solutions now.
What people need to understand though is that there is a reason these people keep so much information to themselves... because it has allowed them to maintain power.
Of course.. but what I am saying is that there is information that if it was revealed it would allow us to not be reliant on these groups or society in general. I am talking about technology.
It's not really secret information. Look hard enough and it's available to anyone. Just start reading ancient mythology. Start with Joseph Campbell.
Again, if you're still obeying these people it doesn't matter if you know their stupid handshakes. You have to start saying 'no' to them and you have to do something about it.
Great call! I have watched some of his videos and he has some of the most accurate info I have seen. Info no one else I have encountered has had. But he was still missing or withholding some from what I have found.
How did he describe Lucifer? Did he put Lucifer before god? Because even freemasons today will say they worship lucifer - but that it's symbolic of learning or something to that effect not that it's anti-god.
I have seen indications that the highest level is satanic.. but I am unsure if this is disinformation or not. I suspect they might be anti-religion and consider themselves "realists."
they see lucifer as represented by the snake in the garden of eden as the good guy because he wanted humans to have the knowledge of the gods, to eat the apple.
A few of my elderly relatives are Freemasons. Their wives are members of Eastern Star. (Their adult children did not want to join). They raise a lot of money for hospitals to help poor children. Their numbers are dwindling because younger people are less likely to join.
However, I have met a couple of younger Freemasons who are quite amused by the theory they are trying to dominate the world.
Yeah.. I find this funny. It's not the lower people who are involved though. It boggles the mind how they cannot understand this simple concept. It's why they are easily controlled.
That's a good point. But the important thing to me is how if you back track through the history of Freemasonry you will see the signs of the real power structure that exists.
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5 throwawaynameday 2015-06-23
Search for William Cooper's hour of the time series. He speaks with people who infiltrated the lodge.
2 DoctorMiracles 2015-06-23
One of them would be Jordan Maxwell (HOTT 24). However I've found that later Cooper himself 'debunked' him. Haven't made up my mind on that person's credibility.
2 stillbatting1000 2015-06-23
Maxwell's credibility you mean, or Cooper's? Here's a video by Chris White debunking Maxwell as well. Largely White claims that while Maxwell appears to "expose" the occult, in truth he is actually promoting it.
2 compliancekid78 2015-06-23
Jordan Maxwell is a seething douche. Once you realize that his bullshit word play has no connection to etymology or philology he becomes a combination of laughable and pathetic.
2 compliancekid78 2015-06-23
I know a lot of OTO and Masons. The lower ranks are just dudes. As in all things the higher you go the more corrupt and the less like the spirit of the organization. For me it's not about the Masons or whatever; it's about psychopaths abusing whatever system they can to gain power - in this case it's government and corporations. If we lived under a different system the same psychopaths would simply try to abuse that other system. The systems are irrelevant. It's the people controlling the systems.
It's a psychological issue - not an ideological one.
3 THE-1138 2015-06-23
I agree with you that they could use nearly any different system to achieve their goals.. but from what I have seen it's about more than them just being psychopaths or opportunists. At the very top there is some agenda or ideology that has driven this group for a very very long time.
2 compliancekid78 2015-06-23
Acquisition of power and control.
That is their ideology.
3 THE-1138 2015-06-23
There's more to it though.. the surface stuff is not their ideology. But dig deep and you will see indications of it.
Check this out to get an idea - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wo8BPAUzIo8
5 compliancekid78 2015-06-23
I'm aware of the speculations regarding high weirdness.
Frankly I don't care anymore.
I'm more interested in breaking free from these people than analyzing and speculating about esoteric and hidden motives. At the end of the day it's more important to be free from these freaks than to understand them. I'm still interested in "understanding my enemy", mind you - it's just that my priorities and focus have shifted. I'm interested in solutions now.
2 THE-1138 2015-06-23
What people need to understand though is that there is a reason these people keep so much information to themselves... because it has allowed them to maintain power.
2 Dogezil 2015-06-23
Or because they've achieved that power partially through remaining so secretive....the tautology is strong with this conversation.
2 THE-1138 2015-06-23
Of course.. but what I am saying is that there is information that if it was revealed it would allow us to not be reliant on these groups or society in general. I am talking about technology.
2 redorblu 2015-06-23
science was once seen as magic, some of it still is.
1 compliancekid78 2015-06-23
Meh.
I don't care.
Telling them to fuck off is more effective than "studying their ways."
In the end you have no choice but to say 'no' and then do something about it.
Or we can all read their books and keep obeying them.
2 THE-1138 2015-06-23
Don't think of the info as being theirs though. It's humanities. They have just hijacked it.
3 compliancekid78 2015-06-23
It's not really secret information. Look hard enough and it's available to anyone. Just start reading ancient mythology. Start with Joseph Campbell.
Again, if you're still obeying these people it doesn't matter if you know their stupid handshakes. You have to start saying 'no' to them and you have to do something about it.
1 texasbarbque 2015-06-23
Good reply.
2 LordMandrake_ 2015-06-23
If you want insider info into freemasonry check out the writings of Albert Pike.
He was the most highly decorated free mason involved in the craft.
He didn't leave freemasonry and then started writing about their secrets, no, he wrote about freemasonry while he was still a mason.
He was a confederate general and he has his own statue in D.C.
His writings left nothing out. You wanna read about what goes on, read from him.
2 THE-1138 2015-06-23
Great call! I have watched some of his videos and he has some of the most accurate info I have seen. Info no one else I have encountered has had. But he was still missing or withholding some from what I have found.
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2 THE-1138 2015-06-23
How did he describe Lucifer? Did he put Lucifer before god? Because even freemasons today will say they worship lucifer - but that it's symbolic of learning or something to that effect not that it's anti-god.
2 [deleted] 2015-06-23
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2 THE-1138 2015-06-23
I have seen indications that the highest level is satanic.. but I am unsure if this is disinformation or not. I suspect they might be anti-religion and consider themselves "realists."
3 redorblu 2015-06-23
they see lucifer as represented by the snake in the garden of eden as the good guy because he wanted humans to have the knowledge of the gods, to eat the apple.
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1 THE-1138 2015-06-23
Interesting info thanks!
1 FortHouston 2015-06-23
A few of my elderly relatives are Freemasons. Their wives are members of Eastern Star. (Their adult children did not want to join). They raise a lot of money for hospitals to help poor children. Their numbers are dwindling because younger people are less likely to join.
However, I have met a couple of younger Freemasons who are quite amused by the theory they are trying to dominate the world.
3 THE-1138 2015-06-23
Yeah.. I find this funny. It's not the lower people who are involved though. It boggles the mind how they cannot understand this simple concept. It's why they are easily controlled.
1 godiebiel 2015-06-23
Most of them are only navel gazers, luckily there are still some lodges involved in charities and social works.
Masonry has lost much of the power it once had. Today as am group there is a lot of cronyism, there power is far from what it was a century ago.
2 THE-1138 2015-06-23
That's a good point. But the important thing to me is how if you back track through the history of Freemasonry you will see the signs of the real power structure that exists.
2 redorblu 2015-06-23
rofl coming from you tells us all we need to know. when are you guys going to realise saying something says something.
-7 OneTimeIsAll 2015-06-23
Did you consider Steel Beams?
1 yellowsnow2 2015-06-23
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thought_Reform_and_the_Psychology_of_Totalism#Thought-terminating_clich.C3.A9
1 THE-1138 2015-06-23
Interesting info thanks!