Meanwhile in /r/worldnews the top link with 4600+ votes is Unvaccinated Six Year Old Boy Diagnosed With Diphtheria In Catalonia Dies, and a massive vaccines are good circle jerk.

It's a team of people with tonnes of fake nicks, they are all paid to get that stuff to the front page and hijack the top comments

Yep. That's why I sort comments by controversial.

We have a winner!

You made that up.

That fact you're saying that means you're probably one of them

Either that or your're an idiot.

You are so stupid lmao.

You're another one of them I see

I don't agree with you so I'm part of the conspiracy... lol.

Because he got diagnosed with Diphtheria, which is easily preventable through a vaccine, and he died, which is total bullshit. You kill people with your paranoia.

Don't you mean, the infection kills people?

Look, no one is against preventing diseases. Vaccines are not fool proof, and personally I don't like unknown chemicals being injected into my body. This comes down to individual sovereignty; if you want to force vaccinations then you are throwing away your own freedom over your body.

Well said. You have no freedom or liberty left when the government can forcibly inoculate you.

Wow.

From Aj's site:

aLittleSlapandTickle • 21 hours ago Funny how we never hear of pharmaceutical company leaders commiting suicide, do we?

It's a good point. Only the good die (relatively) young. People like Cheney and Kissinger seem to just keep going and going.

Their hearts essentially are as cold as stone, cryogenically preserved for all eternity.

The devil walks the earth in human form.

The shills are leaving these posts alone for the time being, probably got a team of experts preparing 'The Official Shill Story'

They only work on weekdays.

We (shills) have finished making the official story!

You can find it here: http://howdovaccinescauseautism.com/

Thanks to this article, I can now afford an illegally settled apartment in the west bank!

Ahh...we have a troll

No, I'm a shill! I'm employed by the National Association of Zionist Shills! Isn't that what you think a shill is?

You know it's not, that's how I know you're a troll.

Most shills are based in US Military Bases

Man, it's too bad I live here in the good 'ol state of Connecticut. I thought for sure I was shilling... too bad.

Because you said you do

So I am a shill? Well thank god. I was afraid my payment of 100 shillings wasn't going to come in!

Were just waiting for payroll. They're office is in the anthrax research lab. Im sure they'll send your check

Awesome. Does that come with one free year of Shill: The Magazine? I heard they had a great article on how to make sure people don't find out the truth about GMOs.

Yep. You're from Connecticut.

He shot himself in the chest and threw himself in a river in order to warn other people not to challenge the government mandates, to shut up and go along.

Some people consciously or subconsciously are afraid to challenge the government now. They find it safer to be sheep. They remember what happens to those who rock the boat too hard. Unfortunately, this does not just affect vaccinations. People in all professions are affected, because the corruption is everywhere now.

Maybe an autistic population is easier to manipulate and control?

I'm not sure it goes that deep, I'm fairly convinced this is just capital based. if people figure out vaccines aren't some miracle cure that protects them from everything, sales will drop for vaccines; so those making and administering vaccines are lobbying for mandatory vaccination and the like.

Thats deep enough

I think you are on to something here.

The data is conclusive. We do not do double blind Randomized Controlled Trials for vaccines so we do not have independent authentication that most of them actually do what is advertised, and many, many health care professionals see the connection between injections and (often) severe reactions.

The only thing keeping the farce up is the bandwagon effect. These type of threads (pro-vaccine worship threads) are essentially to keeping the charade up. But the general populous of the world is by no means the make-up of Reddit. It only took one boy to point out the Emperor had no clothes.

Ah still lying after I called you out on it before?

If you are referring to the post where you confused a study measuring absenteeism in the workplace for vaccine efficacy, I feel the other poster did an adequate job in correcting your mistake.

No you keep claiming no double blind placebo controlled studies are done and I showed you were wrong. It had nothig to do with efficacy. You keep repeating the same lie about no studies being done

The study has to test to see if the vaccine works. This one tested if people who took the vaccine missed less work. Correlation does not equal causation. People sometimes go to work sick.

It was not measuring vaccine efficacy.

Now the larger question is why is this OK? All vaccines should be required to be proven to work under double blind RCT's, which then must be repeated by unaffiliated 3rd parties. Especially before we mandate that everyone, including children, are forced to take them.

Every single vaccine should be proven to work.

Lol dude double blind placebo controlled studies aren't required. That is a ridiculous standard and shows you aren't actually in any field that uses the scientific method. No one is forcing anything and vaccine are proven to work before they used. Hell they even optimize for the best antibodies.

Why should double blind randomized controlled trials not apply to vaccines?

They do but they are not required and that's besides the point. The point is I caught you lying. They do do those studies and are honest about the results

So vaccines should have double-blind random controlled trials, but suggesting it means I am holding them to an 'ridiculous standard?' I'm very confused.

I have still yet to see even one RCT that is designed to prove any vaccine does what it is designed for, but I don't think we, the public, deserve one. We deserve multiple trials for every vaccine in existence.

Okay you fund it then. You find the participants. I don't think you understand how the world works. You sound really entitled and you are still missing my point about you lying.

A so-called Harvard grad should understand basic principles of immunology and that the solid vaccine science is built upon those principles.

Come on, be honest. You're not really a Harvard grad, are you? The only sub you spend any amount of time in is /r/conspiracy. You have yet to post in a sub such as /r/science, /r/medicine, /r/immunology. You just regurgitate the talking point from anti-vaccine sites such as naturalnews. You have not yet posted any sort of scholarly work published in a recognized specialty publication such as the NEJM, JAMA, BMJ, etc. Correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe the Harvard curriculum would include at least one research course that would have taught you to be more rigorous in your ehm "research," no? No, I highly doubt you went to Harvard. In fact, I doubt you have any sort of higher education.

Now, go ahead and report this post to the mods, but know one thing: the only place you're taken seriously is /r/conspiracy

Harvard grad - LOL!!!!

Ad hominems across the board - truly the mark of an inferior mind.

Congratulations!

That's not what an ad hominem is. You just committed a fallacy fallacy though.

Hahahahahahahaha, did you intend to call yourself an inferior mind, or was that purely accidental & hilarious?

I mean if using an Ad hominem is a mark of an inferior mind & you just made an Ad hominems by declaring him an inferior mind, doesn't that just mean you announced that you ALSO have an inferior mind?

My remark wasn't an ad hominem though, it was fact.

And it only applies when ad hominems are the only thing present - hence why I said "across the board".

Buuut, I can already see you skipped that in your eager attempts to play the "GOTCHA!" game.

My remark wasn't an ad hominem though, it was fact.

Except it was: An ad hominem is an argument that attacks a person's character rather then their argument. If you had pointed out that one had used an ad hominem that would have been fine, but the second you used that to attack the speaker you yourself were committing the same ad hominem fallacy, their by insulting yourself.

Those with a brain would say its calling out an obvious liar. But then again this IS /r/conspiracy ;-)

You mean the brain of a mosquito? Yes, I imagine they would.

I would have much rather seen you expend all that energy explaining why there is not one series of repeated double blind RCT for any vaccine currently on the market.

Maybe they've allowed this to get near the top on the front page to try to scare us off discussing the dangers of vaccines, it wouldn't surprise me one bit

It sure looks like a warning to Doctors who think the truth is something we deserve to hear.

By the sound of it he had a research paper which he would soon release proving once and for all that vaccines are causing Autism

You're an idiot. Autism isn't a disease that can be caused but a spectrum of communicative and social "disorders" that are scorned because they are different. You're "disease/cure" is just as flawed as the boogeymen you invent.

You're the only idiot here.

Yet somehow correct. Kind of sad.

How is it correct to claim that autism is scorned because it is just a bunch of disorders which people try to cure because autistic people are "different"? It is correctly viewed as a flaw because it prevents those afflicted with it to function as socially and psychologically normal human beings. Or are you one of those people who only accepts the existence of autistic "geniuses", and completely ignores the retards whose mental and emotional performance, whose entire lives have been ruined by living with autism?

Your use of the word "retards" shows that you have no actual knowledge of the subject and aren't worth talking to.

Retard Definition: used to refer to a person or individual who is cognitively impaired in some way.

I dare say I have more knowledge of the subject than you, but whatever, keep flinging those ad hominems.

No you don't.

Keep living in denial, sunshine.

Another doctor that didn't go with the flow of mainstream medicine has been found dead in Florida.

http://www.news-press.com/story/news/local/bonita-springs/2015/06/29/the-sheriffs-office-investigating-death-in-bonita-springs/29474437/

Don't you mean, the infection kills people?

Look, no one is against preventing diseases. Vaccines are not fool proof, and personally I don't like unknown chemicals being injected into my body. This comes down to individual sovereignty; if you want to force vaccinations then you are throwing away your own freedom over your body.

So vaccines should have double-blind random controlled trials, but suggesting it means I am holding them to an 'ridiculous standard?' I'm very confused.

I have still yet to see even one RCT that is designed to prove any vaccine does what it is designed for, but I don't think we, the public, deserve one. We deserve multiple trials for every vaccine in existence.

Retard Definition: used to refer to a person or individual who is cognitively impaired in some way.

I dare say I have more knowledge of the subject than you, but whatever, keep flinging those ad hominems.