Informal Q & A with "Enlightened"
10 2015-11-09 by _Quis_ut_Deus_
As most of you seem to have a misunderstanding about what "Illuminati" means, I will change the word to "Enlightened", to clear up some confusion.
The true Illuminati, have little to do with any Secret Societies.
The "illuminati" in Secret Societies are generally just people seeking hidden "occult" knowledge. The very high ranks have likely discovered the ultimate secret. The lower ranks are the ones willing to sell their soul in exchange for knowledge. These people are the damned.
Now, as I have not been banned yet, I will assume that I have the green light to answer questions.
I have provided no proof or evidence, and this thought experiment shouldn't require one. I will simply answer your questions to the best of my ability, and you can use the information however you see fit. I simply ask that if you are not ready to receive my message, do not prevent others from doing so.
I will answer questions for as long as this remains civil. I may be in and out sporadically, but I will do my best to supply as many answers as I am able to.
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2 the-black-sun 2015-11-09
What are the true laws of the Universe and the Creator?
How can someone own that which he did not create?
What is the purpose of your life, and our lives?
Have you ever seen the black sun?
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1 temnota 2015-11-09
One thing I never understood about this solopsistic fake enlightenment that "people who would sell their souls for knowledge" like you push, is that if you are really so enlightened you wouldn't be in the "fear" reality, a terrible world with dinosaurs, you'd be lucid dreaming some paradise. Or are you now claiming to be a time traveler creating shitty timelines so you can preach your fake enlightenment to them? Why would it even matter if those realities (the one we're in) are entirely fabricated by your intention? Looking forward to your snide chuckles response.
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1 temnota 2015-11-09
What does the duty to rebuke liars and false prophets have to do with anger?
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2 Ambiguously_Ironic 2015-11-09
So talk about it then. You haven't given anything at all besides short, vague non-answers that anyone could make up on their own.
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2 Ambiguously_Ironic 2015-11-09
Okay if you're gonna go that route I'll ask myself then:
Can you elaborate about it, the "ultimate secret"? What it entails, what it means, what the implications are?
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2 _Eat_More_ 2015-11-09
So Icarus and the sun? See I believe you may be more awakened than most but certainly not a heavy weight. The beauty in the fundamental concepts is that you can describe them in stories or whatever you choose, but only the reader with his eye open enough will actual see.
So could you expand on the death of the soul? More specifically your personal thoughts on driving towards the truth and driving because you love to drive? Do YOU wish to return to the source? To go full circle?
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2 _Eat_More_ 2015-11-09
Perfectly written up, thank you
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2 IntellisaurDinoAlien 2015-11-09
A wise man once said to me "The secret of life... is a secret."
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What are you trying to say?
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2 Semune90 2015-11-09
Let's assume you are who you say you are.
I would consider myself among the most enlightened, just by the sheer amount of thinking and research that I've done in my lifetime.
One thing I still cannot figure out. What is the meaning of life? Why am I here?
I am very...very anti-war and anti everything that is going on in the middle east right now, I'm sure you know the full truth of what is going on there too, and I am 100% entirely opposed to it. According to your philosophy, it shouldn't be happening in my reality. Why is something that I so openly oppose happening? Why are innocent people still dying?
I know how the world could be in a state of bliss, I can picture it and everything, yet it's not happening. Why, when I can picture a world of pure happiness for all, is there still extreme violence and deception?
I do fully understand how consciousness does play a role in my life, but I've only noticed small things happening that I focused on.
1) I wanted my Grandma to die so that she didn't have to see the world for what it truly was, she died a year later in a car crash, if this was because of me, it is one of the biggest mistakes of my life.
2) When I was 17 I stated over and over that my number one goal in life was to obtain absolute truth, knowledge, and wisdom - This ended up coming true, and possibly a major mistake as well, because with every bit of knowledge I gained the less happy I became, it is impossible to be happy as someone that knows most of the secrets of this world, but I have to continue. I am so driven to find out the truth of this reality that it can't possibly be a bad thing, in fact I think it's what I'm here for. If it is a learning experience, why do I not remember other lives? Why would I need to learn about a human existence for whatever type of existence I am when I die?
3) Every time I ask to be broken through a wall that I've hit (knowledge-wise) I ended up learning something ground breaking a couple weeks later that opened up a lot of different research topics.
Just about everything that I ask for happens, except that I need a new PC... I think reality played a cruel joke on me because I envisioned a nice white PC and I ended up getting it... only it ended up being a PC that I use at my college, so I do believe there is some truth there, but it's odd, because if it was true... why can't I just live without working? Live without going to school for some lame degree?
Why do I have to play by this reality's rules? I don't want to work 40 hours a week, what a terrible existence.
Can you adopt me? Well, wait, that might go over badly if you're one of the bad guys, but I don't know if you are or not, so meh. LOL
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3 Semune90 2015-11-09
I apologize, I rewrote my comment to a less...hostile one, while you were replying.
Also, I see no reason to believe in a "satan", he's not even really mentioned in the bible, let alone anywhere else.
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1 Semune90 2015-11-09
So... you're claiming to be this satan character?
The very idea of a character like that existing is absurd, there can be no living being that enjoys being "evil", it is simply illogical. For "satan" to exist, "god" also must exist, and both seem to be pretty evil, right? What's the point in even being evil in the first place?
Care to go a little more in depth? Why should I believe that you're the character people call "satan"?
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3 Semune90 2015-11-09
So then what is the point of life?
If that were true, then there is nothing to really "strive" for is there?
Is a reality where everyone is happy even possible? I despise seeing everyone being taken advantage of, especially the people in the middle east. I despise having to work, which drains my soul. I despise how everyone is indoctrinated as children. I despise how my air, food, and water is poisoned.
Am I just doomed to be in this type of reality forever? Why?
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2 Semune90 2015-11-09
So what is the endgame? Learn everything then experience "soul death"?
How does that even make any sense? Learn everything to no longer exist?
You said you were immortal, yet you mention soul death, which would mean that you're not immortal correct?
Wouldn't someone as "enlightened" as yourself be close to the endgame of soul death?
What happens after soul death? Just... nothingness? Do you at some point come back, or?
You said there's no possible reality where everyone is happy, but is there a reality where I am completely happy myself?
Do we ever experience our own death? Of the body or the soul? Or both?
Are there different degrees of "good and evil"? Take Lord of the Rings as an example, one day they're in the Shire all happy, then all of a sudden they're threatened by Mordor. Does the amount of oppression, deception, negativity etc... increase/decrease? If so, is it possible for people in this reality to be mostly happy?
Thanks by the way for answering swiftly, I don't know if you're the real deal yet, but your answers resemble the "hidden hand" answers, so there's some plausibility.
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2 Semune90 2015-11-09
So pretty much I could, if I wanted to, rise to a position of power and murder 2 billion people, and still have the same outcome as seeking the peaceful path?
Let's say... I focused hard on becoming a mastermind in my reality, I topple the current power structure (bilderbergs), then proceed to "cleanse" the reality of those I deem unworthy. In the end I murder 2 billion people.
Would the outcome be the same if I were to just do nothing and live life..."normally"...?
Also, is quantum immortality true? If I were to hold a gun to my head and shoot, would it malfunction? (I'm not going to try).
Why would we ever choose to have choice over eternal bliss? What the benefit to us? I personally (at least I think so) would rather have no choice and have a blissful ignorant life.
Last question: Who plants all the original ideas in our heads as kids? You say we have total control over reality, but I was forced into school (and don't say I had a choice), and forced into other types of indoctrination such as religion (but luckily, I got out of both on my own, but I'm still annoyed that it happened).
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1 Semune90 2015-11-09
To learn... for what? If it always ends the same, why should I move on? Why can't I just stay where I'm at? If my entire goal is to just learn everything then destroy myself to do it again, why not stay somewhere for a long time? I wouldn't stay HERE, but I would stay at a place similar that is more comfortable for a very long time.
How did you end up where you're at? Why can't I just reincarnate as part of the comfortable "elite" and stay there?
By the way, thanks for answering all these questions. I still don't really know if you're the real deal, but you have some very interesting ideas.
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2 R_Blythe90 2015-11-09
So what if I feel like I just want to play video games, out of boredom of reality?
I've read a lot of your responses, and they make sense, but every time I try to quit my job and do what I want (play video games and escape the bore of reality), I have nowhere to go.
Sounds weird, to want to escape and "play" in a different world, but to me all life is is working when I just want to play.
In fact, judging by your description of what life is, it makes me just want to play video games more. I love interacting with creativity and immersing myself in different worlds.
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Who is the demiurge? Do the oligarchs/invisible hand/The Cathedral/Illuminati, whatever you want to call it, worship the demiurge? Or metaphorically speaking, are they the demiurge itself?
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I prefer to think of it as a metaphor but perhaps it's somewhere in the middle. It is not The All but an arrogant half creator that wishes to remove every ounce of freedom/free will from humanity. It wants praise, power and control. For that is the nature of the arrogant, jealous demiurge. Which I believe sounds a lot like what the oligarchs want to do to the common person.
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I understand what you're saying and I agree to an extent. Something to ponder about. Thank you for your time. Have a good night.
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I've read all of your answers and learnt a few things, so thank you.
Here are some questions I have:
1) You're saying that I am the perceiver who projects my own reality from my consciousness. If so, how does that interplay with other people? Are they merely what I project them to be? Do their projections of me have an impact on me? (hope that makes sense)
2) From what you've been saying, sounds like an enlightened individual (having the knowledge of how things work) has the power to influence their reality a fair bit. How much of this power do you take advantage of? Can my consciousness have a global impact? If so, how does that work? Is it through a rippling effect where I change the ideas of those around me?
3) As an enlightened individual, how do you feel about the way the humanity is living in our times?
4) This fear of ours. What are we, the consciousness, afraid of?
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that's chilling, and intensely sad. How do you deal with the full understanding of being utterly alone? Just enjoy this 3D tangible world you've created with ying and yang concepts and emotions, and watch your creation hop about?
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Thank you, that helps.
2 Semune90 2015-11-09
So basically we just learn until there is nothing left to learn, destroy ourselves then start over, over and over and over endlessly just so we're never alone?
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2 the-black-sun 2015-11-09
This is not the black sun. There is a higher meaning behind the symbol. Essentially the black sun is Kether on the tree of life, it is the radiant darkness that is the source of all things. Think of it this way, where does the light of the sun come from??? From the fusion reaction within the sun right? No, the true source is from an infinite number of chain reactions that all emanate from the original source of light and creation, and that is the black sun beyond time itself. It is eternal and we are all rays of it's eternal light. The material realm, the light of the physical sun, is actually a shield meant to conceal the spiritual truth that lies behind it's bright light.
There is a short book you should read by Manly P Hall called "Melchizedek and the Mystery of Fire" and it will describe this in great detail as well as give you the most adept understanding of the element of Fire that I am aware of.
I have no idea what this 3 day eclipse is that he is referring to, but the idea of the black sun is alchemical and yes, it was taken by the Nazis who were heavily into the occult and therefore found the most powerful symbol they could in order to represent them because after all they did believe they had God on their side.
It is also rumored that those who can see the light of the black sun, which I would assume would require a true opening of the third eye, are able to see with their eyes closed, the light of the world becomes irrelevant and all things become visible in their true spiritual forms.
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1 Calivano 2015-11-09
What is the true history of Humanity? Why has our history been changed? At what point did our ancestors become sentient and what instilled that "spark of light?"
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1 Calivano 2015-11-09
what do you know about the moment of creation?
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Our ancestors
1 Calivano 2015-11-09
Do you feel that the population of mankind must be reduced to 500,000, and if so, what deciding factors determine who remains?
0 Ambiguously_Ironic 2015-11-09
You aren't being censored. You're using a new account and our auto-mod removes comments from new users automatically to cut down on trolling from people who make new accounts specifically for that purpose.
I approved your comments in this thread and made you an approved submitter so you should be set now.
If you're still having trouble, you can simply message the mods instead of saying nothing to us at all and then claiming you're being censored (which you aren't).
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1 Ambiguously_Ironic 2015-11-09
Yes, and this thread was approved. Then every additional comment you made also needed to be approved, which they now have been. And you're now an approved submitter so everything you post should show now.
And it's no problem at all, cheers.
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When did the Simpsons start to suck?
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I'm gonna say it started to lose it tonally around mid-season 9.
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1 zamboni_soundtracks 2015-11-09
That's when I joined the illuminati and became a shill for big pharma/zionism. Pay is pretty good, but money is a meaningless trifle next to the all-encompassing power, amirite?
0 Geralt23 2015-11-09
Who do you claim to be? Who is your God?
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0 Geralt23 2015-11-09
Who is your God?
0 Geralt23 2015-11-09
Felt responsible to say this, but don't believe any of this user's claims. He is siding with the false truth. Look at his answers. He claims he is God, he claims he is the devil. Distance yourself from anyone who claims such things, nothing good can come out of it, I guarantee you.
1 Semune90 2015-11-09
So... you're claiming to be this satan character?
The very idea of a character like that existing is absurd, there can be no living being that enjoys being "evil", it is simply illogical. For "satan" to exist, "god" also must exist, and both seem to be pretty evil, right? What's the point in even being evil in the first place?
Care to go a little more in depth? Why should I believe that you're the character people call "satan"?