Heading towards World War III
157 2015-11-26 by casperborincano
Heading towards World War III
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After World War II people around the world thought that it was last major war on Earth. This does not look appearing now. In 1944 major countries of world sat in New Hampshire(Bretton wood conference) to declare dollar as a world currency backed by gold(Gold Standard).US had reserve gold to print paper money.US started printing money and was enjoying the economy boom. From 1945 to 1965 everything was fine but in 1965 US had war with Vietnam and in effect of war US economy started tumble. Until 1970 US was printing more and more dollar to overcome financial crisis. This made countries to start disbelieving in dollar and asking for gold in return of dollar.US had printed more dollar than gold it had. Redeem of gold would have destroy US economy. There fore, US president Nixon ended gold back dollar and started printing more and more dollar to strengthen the economy.Dollar value in international markte was gradually plunging as it was only paper money not backed by gold. Nixon took very smart move, went to Arab and asked to take dollar in exchange of oil. US also promised to give protection and weapons(This is called Petro-Dollar system). This was first seed sow for current war. Other OPEC members (Algeria, Angola, Ecuador, Iran, Iraq, Kuwait, Libya, Nigeria, Qatar,United Arab Emirates and Venezuela) also followed Arabia exchange policy. US economy started emerge but other countries(China and Japan etc) had to make export oriented policy to get dollar to purchase oil.US economy is like a vehicle which can not run without oil.
In 1999 enemy of dollar had come into the picture "Euro". In 2000 Iraqi president(Russia-China pro) Saddam Hussain decided to sell oil in Euro and assured death warrant of him. US economy(dollar) might derail if Iraq and other OPEC members follow it. In 2003 Bush invaded Iraq pretending of chemical weapons to save their dollar and destroy the entire country. Iraq again started selling oil in dollar. Libya's Gaddafi declared to use gold Dinar for oil in 2010. He also tried to form African union and was planning to launch a satellite which was going to serve African nations. Gaddafi step was against US and European nations who have been sucking entire Africa continent for years. So US and EU invaded Libya and killed Gaddafi. Syria moved away from the dollar in 06 and Iran in 08.
Now US has to keep Russia and China away from natural resources(oil and natural gas) and has to compete Euro/Yuan/Rubel as well. Today the US-backed wars in Ukraine and in Syria are but two fronts in the same strategic war to cripple Russia and China and to rupture any Eurasian counter-pole. Natural gas has become the favored “clean energy” source for the 21st Century and the EU is the world’s largest growth market for gas, a major reason US wants to break the Russia-EU supply dependency to weaken Russia and keep control over the EU via loyal proxies like Qatar.
The world’s largest known natural gas reservoir sits in the middle of the Persian Gulf straddling part in the territorial waters of Qatar and part in Iran.China signed agreement with Iran to develop gas pipeline infrastructure to bring the gas to China .In July 2011, the governments of Syria, Iran and Iraq signed an historic gas pipeline energy agreement and this triggered US-Saudi-Qatari war to remove Syrian president Assad. This pipeline would run from the Persian Gulf(in Iran), to Damascus in Syria via Iraq territory. The agreement would make Syria the center of assembly and production in conjunction with the reserves of Lebanon. This is a geopolitically strategic space that geographically opens for the first time, extending from Iran to Iraq, Syria and Lebanon.
Shortly after signing with Iran and Iraq, on August 16, 2011, Bashar al-Assad’s Syrian Ministry of Oil announced the discovery of a gas well in the Area of Qarah in the Central Region of Syria near Homs. Russia, with Assad in power, would be a major investor or operator of the new gas fields in Syria. Iran ultimately plans to extend the pipeline from Damascus(Syria) to Lebanon’s Mediterranean port where it would be delivered to the huge EU market. Syria would buy Iranian gas along with a current Iraqi agreement to buy Iranian gas from Iran’s part of South Pars field.
Qatar, today the world’s largest exporter of LNG, largely to Asia, wants the same EU market that Iran and Syria eye. For that, they would build pipelines to the Mediterranean. Here is where getting rid of the pro Russian-Iranian-Chinese Assad is essential. In 2009 Qatar approached Bashar al-Assad to propose construction of a gas pipeline from Qatar’s north Field through Syria on to Turkey and to the EU. Assad refused, citing Syria’s long friendly relations with Russia.
That refusal combined with the Iran-Iraq-Syria gas pipeline agreement in 2011 ignited the full-scale Saudi and Qatari along with US assault on Syria and cause of rise of ISIS. ISIS is now war army of US+Israel+Saudi Arabia+Qatar and many other countries. US announced attack on ISIS but wanted to capture Syria. Now in counter attack Syrian president called his alliance Russia and China.
Now world is on the verge of polarisation, Russia+China+Iran+Syria+Iraq... and US+Israel+Saudi Arabia+Qatar+UK...
US is trying to rapture EU economy to down euro using IMF by weaken its member countries economies. Greece is one of the victim recently(Spain, Italy, Portugal are in queue).
Saudi Arabia is manipulating oil price to weaken Iran indirectly Russia. China is in currency war with US. China did de-value its currency to compete with dollar(China market crash in Aug-Sept).
France voted against Israel for Palestine in UN in Sept-Oct 2015, recognized as a state and stabbed to Israel, and looking for 2 states solution theory. France had to pay for this by #AttackinParis
China is capturing African countries and making lot of investment. Mali is recently attacked because its President went to china door to ask help and get rid of US occupied gold mines.
100 comments
35 RMFN 2015-11-26
Well put my friend. The dollar truly is the US greatest weapon.
We export the majority of the inflation created through QE to developing nations.
What we are seeing in the middle east is the exact same as the Balkan wars of the last century. We are reliving the years leading up to the first world war.
We saw Russia testing its new equipment. This next war is going to be insane.
19 CelestialWalrus 2015-11-26
1 mycroftholmess 2015-11-26
It's a chilling thought
1 nogrim2 2015-11-26
well from the look of russias new Ewar capabilities there is a chance that they are able to just disable most of the US weapons systems so even if the US does end up starting the war they may not be able to do much once they do.
21 SkepticalFaceless 2015-11-26
These are all lies. I didn't see this in CNN. /s
9 activow 2015-11-26
This is great, and many of us here are well informed about it, but let me ask you something folks.
What are we doing about it?
4 RedditIsPropaganda23 2015-11-26
Educating everyone we can.
2 Sir_smokes_a_lot 2015-11-26
making contingency plans for when shit hits the fan
2 nogrim2 2015-11-26
resigning my self to the fact that no one believes us, and those of us who do are ostracized from society in general for it.
fuck it, yall want to march in to the camps for them, go ahead.
1 AstronautCliffTarpey 2015-11-26
I'm not marching anywhere. Anybody that tries to pull THIS hermit crab outta his shell, somebody's gettin pinched, if you follow my meaning.
7 HITLERS_SEX_PARTY 2015-11-26
Well presented and disturbing. But try telling this to your average porn-addicted dumbass. It's hopeless, and the War Pigs know it.
2 Pat1818 2015-11-26
Take it easy Pink. You don't need to remind use that your better than all the "porn-addicts" but the fact that your hand was probably on your dick when you typed this is unsettling. That Paris attack bit is quite a fucking reach as well but hey that's a theme in this thread.
0 HITLERS_SEX_PARTY 2015-11-26
I don't watch porn, but I see I touched a nerve. Maybe you should try meeting a real girl instead of a RealDoll.
2 Pat1818 2015-11-26
I didn't say you did but for someone who doesn't watch porn you sure talk about it a lot, But don't worry I assume all you need is a mirror to get off.
4 HITLERS_SEX_PARTY 2015-11-26
All I need is the memories of days gone by, there have been some great ones.
-1 NobleArchitect 2015-11-26
And here we have /u/HITLERS_SEX_PARTY putting down others to feel superior about himself, tip your fedora and lets move on to the next reddit exhibit.
-1 HITLERS_SEX_PARTY 2015-11-26
Who did I put down? Oh, you are a porn-addicted dumbass I guess?
3 NobleArchitect 2015-11-26
What? I thought you where putting down the general population by calling everyone a "porn-addicted dumbass". If not then why would you actually be trying to explain this to a porn adict?
0 HITLERS_SEX_PARTY 2015-11-26
Ah, go watch some more porn. Here you go http://www.pornhub.com/view_video.php?viewkey=1376549707
-1 jayjaydajettrain 2015-11-26
whoah whoah whoah, wtf is wrong with porn
3 HITLERS_SEX_PARTY 2015-11-26
as an addiction? Plenty.
7 holocauster-ride 2015-11-26
I have long believed that America's goal in the war in the Levant is to destroy Europe.
0 nogrim2 2015-11-26
evangelicals, and/or mormons, iirc they think they are a lost israeli tribe, starting WWIII would as some of them believe bring about the end times, and result in the second coming so they can be saved.
also the reason that Zionists with nuclear weapons are way more terrifying than ISIS
6 GuruApproved 2015-11-26
We're all fucked
6 endsieg88 2015-11-26
Our current situation is very alike what we saw leading up to the first world war. Like you stated, we are currently undergoing a polarization of the globe, countries are taking sides and making allies.
All we need now are for the super-powers to arm up and an incident (I'm thinking a false flag on scale with the 9/11 attacks) to set off the powder keg.
1 year? 2 years? 5-10? Hard to say, but with the current escalations, I wouldn't be too optimistic. Remember, this war will have the combined nuclear arsenals of all major super-powers, so the need to have a standing army with the state-of-the-art-technology is not really a priority this time around. First-strike scenarios are key.
2 AstronautCliffTarpey 2015-11-26
Homie I can see it happening before the year is out. If not, then DEFINITELY the first half of 2016.
1 endsieg88 2015-11-26
I'm really not much for 'painting the devil on the wall', at least not before we have more substantial evidence to go with.
What makes you think it will go off that ''early''? The Minsk-cease-fire-agreement that expires, and Ukraine going hot? Or more 'accidents' in Syria?
6 JimmyJaimes 2015-11-26
This is a very good explanation of events leading to the current situation. Well done.
5 BenYahoo 2015-11-26
You missed Golan Heights http://www.reddit.com/r/UKtalk/comments/3u450t/syria_what_you_arent_being_told/
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5 khantzaey 2015-11-26
So why don't Russian scientists just come up with an alternative to oil for energy then team up with China to mass produce the items for the Western masses. If there is no dependence on oil then the demand will fall and so the dollar wars happening don't even need to be fought?
I think I've probably missed something major here though...
4 _ferz 2015-11-26
I don't think there is any alternative for energy at this point that is as efficient as oil. But I'd like to know if there is one and why it's not being implemented.
1 EyesClosedInMirror 2015-11-26
There isn't one yet, but I believe advancements in solar energy combined with wireless energy transference could take us closer to a non-combustible energy source.
1 nogrim2 2015-11-26
solar has really been a thorn in the side of TPTB, who needs governments or central authorities when you can provide everything for yourself. i mean with an unlimited source of power like solar why would i need to pay taxes in the first place, centralized utilities are really the core purpose of a government anyway, once we can do that for our selves and be actually self sufficient what would we need to listen to them for?
1 tksmase 2015-11-26
I'm nuuuuuucleeaaaaaar
2 NobleArchitect 2015-11-26
And what would that alternative be?
1 khantzaey 2015-11-26
A decentralised power system that can be used from home?
1 Nutricidal 2015-11-26
You've missed nothing. Their argument falls apart.
3 Thegingerbread_man 2015-11-26
Remind Me! 1 year
3 ColinFeely 2015-11-26
Hey remind me too
2 newharddrive 2015-11-26
Well, dude, you missed the Cold War, which was a hot war. You caught Vietnam, which was one of the battles. Other than that, pretty good.
0 FREETHOUGHTSOPEN 2015-11-26
The cold war wasn't a hot a war, it was a war that was basically espionage agents killing espionage agents. Assassination on different key figures on all sides. It was less BOOM and more PEW.
3 peter__venkman 2015-11-26
The cold war was just the continuation of proxy wars between the soviets and the US. Vietnam was one huge proxy war.
3 _Tyler_Durden_ 2015-11-26
The cold war was pretty hot in the theaters where it was actually fought, i.e. the 3rd world. Most Americans really do not understand the "Cold" War at all, and what role their country played. The Cold War was also a misnomer, IMO, it really was WWIII.
1 newharddrive 2015-11-26
No, you are wrong. The Cold War contained the Korean War and Vietnam, Cambodia, and Laos etc. It was a hot world-wide war that many people do not understand correctly.
2 DavidBotaks 2015-11-26
Time to start gathering bottlecaps!
1 Stormy_knight 2015-11-26
Imagine if Nixon didn't thwart thorium reactor research. We could literally probably be exploring galaxies by now. All I want is Obama out of the White House before anything happens. He does need any more power because he does not know how to use it.
2 drk_etta 2015-11-26
Same goes for the oil empire buying up battery patent tech.
1 PsychedelicFryBread 2015-11-26
US and UK didn't go to war with each other when the dollar replaced the pound and US and China aren't going to war with each other when the yuan replaces the dollar.
If there's a WWIII, it'll be all the same players as the last one but they'll all be allied against a stateless, common enemy.
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1 dr_phill17 2015-11-26
I hope that wasn't a reference to US destroying Europe. Let me remind you something, most of the major world conflicts happened on European soil. We can handle them. You guys get 2 skyscrapers torn down and act like it's the greatest tragedy in the world. It might just happen that the highly possible upcoming war happens on US soil. I would watch my language if I were you.
3 inertiatic_ESP 2015-11-26
I think he meant all mankind....literally no one left. Maybe it's for the best
2 datpurp 2015-11-26
Being shocked by war and being shocked by s terrorist attacks are two different thing
I agree with you on it shouldn't of been said and it can easily be on our soil next
1 judgementaldesigner 2015-11-26
Oh course we are, Republicans have serious plans to arm Israel with planes and arms. We know that Iran had a nuclear program and they are funding the n. Koreans to build war heads for them. We can't see what's going on in n.korea so while everyone was busy searching for wmd in Iran and Syria they are being manufactured somewhere else.
The real problems gonna start when Israel, using an American plane, bombs the crap out of the wrong person. Then we will get blamed.
1 Volotron 2015-11-26
Do you have any good information on the economy of Greece, Spain, Portugal, and Italy? Also China's roles in Africa?
1 DubstepStairs 2015-11-26
I'm living in the middle east. Fuck.
1 IronMeltsinmyHands 2015-11-26
I've read about half of this, and I've got a question.
This means that if the US is to lose a single war to Russia and China, the dollar will collapse. And with that in mind, the US will indeed, again make use of nuclear weapons.
Am I right?
1 mycroftholmess 2015-11-26
Absolutely brilliantly put. I wish more people knew this. You're one of the few people that really gets it
Unrelated, sort of, but where would Germany be in all of this? Which 'side' ?
0 Observer1993 2015-11-26
Just a peasant lurker here.. Our world is in deep complex shit for one world gov't. Now we choose to be divided or be in unison with one world governance. I choose one world governance, but in what cost and will it benefit us more?? I'm not sure. Just a peasant lurker with personal problems that blurs my thinking..
7 Kami7 2015-11-26
If one world government had the goal to level currency wars and basically make the playing field equal where countries can once again use their own resources with out getting toppled over for going against what the powers that be have ordained. I would have been like yeah, sure One world government great. But what is happening is the elite want to topple governments and regimes that aren't onboard with their plans, all the countries who at one point had freedom for its citizens are changing their laws to be more controlling. It's almost comical that folks don't see what's happening. Terrorist attacks are followed by the country's constitution changing, more surveillance, more control. All these countries that have had these attacks are also involved in trying to pass Cispa type laws. All of this should matter to us on an individual level.
3 Observer1993 2015-11-26
I'm kinda insecure with my English. Please excuse me. I have a bullshit idea in my mind. Someday it would be better if we are divided for peace. Half of our world is freedom loving governance for the sake of our primal instinct be fulfilled, while the other half of the world is fine with pure control and efficient improvement of our overall society. Good bullshit idea right??
2 Kami7 2015-11-26
So crazy it just might work, lol. I have no idea...
PS: your English is perfect
-8 HITLERS_SEX_PARTY 2015-11-26
wat
2 e546h45e6h54e 2015-11-26
I'm ok with your choice if your one world government is a true democracy (perhaps you want to review Solon and Cleisthenes in Ancient Greece), which it won't be if it's organized by the people organizing it right now (the very ones convincing you it's for peace, when really it's for global scale slavery).
Short of having a true democracy, i'd rather work the other way, maximum decentralization, down to the individual in many cases, and to the municipality in most cases.
1 Observer1993 2015-11-26
Shill downvotessss yey! I'm a neutral. No pressure.
*edit typo
-1 homerdick15 2015-11-26
Josh???
-4 NewtonianCooking 2015-11-26
no one cares if ur a lurker
4 Observer1993 2015-11-26
The fact that you cared i'm a lurker. :(
-2 NewtonianCooking 2015-11-26
i was pointing it out cause its so annoying when people mention they are lurkers. being a lurker isnt a big deal so can everyone just stop mentioning it when they post? mentioning it does not mean that i care.
3 Observer1993 2015-11-26
You have a point. I'm sincerely sorry. Kudos!
-2 HITLERS_SEX_PARTY 2015-11-26
stop apologizing.
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1 SovereignMan 2015-11-26
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1 SovereignMan 2015-11-26
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1 HITLERS_SEX_PARTY 2015-11-26
Ah, c'mon...he started!
1 SovereignMan 2015-11-26
And he had comments removed too.
1 HITLERS_SEX_PARTY 2015-11-26
True..I will always fondly remember him as 'that young, late November cuck'.
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-1 FREETHOUGHTSOPEN 2015-11-26
Line up is wrong a bit, you watch by action not by words when thinking military strategics. A politician can lie to the news reporter but through action show their real alliance.
USA+Russia+China+Iran VS CIA, Israel, Saudi, UK,
Even then, most countries will be at war within themselves.
I.E the polarization propaganda you speak of seems to be race and religion based as well. Meaning Christians won't be gun ho to kill Christians, Muslims won't be gun ho to kill Muslims, white will not be excited to kill whites blacks not excited to kill blacks etc, etc.
I wouldn't be surprised if at the same time, civil wars breakout within countries as well.
This also doesn't even account for the outliers.
1 Observer1993 2015-11-26
Our world is ambigous AF
-3 ajaytech 2015-11-26
Maybe your post will be taken seriously when you start using basic grammar.
-4 DumbledoreSays 2015-11-26
Nuclear bombs are known to be fake. Just search for 'nuke hoax' on youtube. You will laugh at how comically amateur the faked 'nuclear testing' footage is. War propaganda they forgot to stop peddling once the job was done.
4 Flatwoods 2015-11-26
What you're saying isn't true.
-6 DumbledoreSays 2015-11-26
Where is your evidence?
7 Flatwoods 2015-11-26
Yeah cause I'm the one makin the outlandish claim that just begs for evidence.
I've handled trinitite. I've spoken with the families of Hiroshima survivors. I've been in the room where Truman made the decision to drop the bomb. I've met countless federal employees whose entire professional lives have revolved around the subject. Is this evidence? No. But my lived experience tells me you're full of bullshit.
-8 DumbledoreSays 2015-11-26
None of that is evidence that nuclear bombs exist, bro. Have you seen the footage of 'nuclear tests'? It is embarrassing. Look it up for yourself.
4 Pat1818 2015-11-26
How are nukes not real again you answer didn't really specify anything and if your evidence is YouTube well then I guess you don't really have any evidence.
-9 DumbledoreSays 2015-11-26
You are saying that devices exist which can instantly kill hundreds of thousands (millions?) of people, via the process of nuclear fission/fusion (which basically means the process of atoms splitting or fusing). It is an extraordinary claim. Where is your evidence? The burden of proof is on you.
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2 theFATHERofLIES 2015-11-26
Thank you for being a logical person and getting a thread I was enjoying back on track. Even though it kind of ended at that point any way lol. Still, good form.
1 Pat1818 2015-11-26
You made the initial claim but I'll propose a test anyways because you don't seem to wanna try to validate your claim. The sun is so bright and all that jazz because of hydrogen fusion and I'm no nuclear physicist but nuclear elements have a heavier atomic mass than hydrogen and nuclear fission couldn't kill anyone for some reason you didn't give exactly, then hydrogen fusion should be no prob. So how about you go stand on the sun and take notes about how it's no big deal and your totally alive.
-1 DumbledoreSays 2015-11-26
How do you know that the sun is so bright because of 'hydrogen fusion'? Which scientific experiments have been done to validate this claim?
1 Pat1818 2015-11-26
Atoms splitting and fusing generates energy, your microwave cooks food by making water molecules rapidly switching poles from pointing up to down this action alone generates enough energy to cook your food really fast so picture how much energy is generated in fast movements or fusions. How about you address the whole there are no nukes thing now or I can keep explaining shit you should've learned in school.
0 DumbledoreSays 2015-11-26
I asked for your scientific experiments, not regurgitation of the nonsense you read in some book.
1 Pat1818 2015-11-26
Put a moist food that contains a lot of water molecules in it in the microwave. Then put a very dry food and microwave them for the same amount of time. One will come out of the microwave a lot hotter than the other. I gave you the information to do your own experiments but hey apparently you couldn't think of trying that for yourself. Seeing how you could so easily believe the nukes don't exist thing it's clear that your just incredibly stupid and afraid of living in a world were such a weapon exists. I'm done responding now I've tried and like your parents I given up there's just no helping you.
3 Flatwoods 2015-11-26
Yeah okay thanks I'll do that immediately and then check back in with you for more discourse.
1 Observer1993 2015-11-26
Our world is ambigous AF
1 Pat1818 2015-11-26
You made the initial claim but I'll propose a test anyways because you don't seem to wanna try to validate your claim. The sun is so bright and all that jazz because of hydrogen fusion and I'm no nuclear physicist but nuclear elements have a heavier atomic mass than hydrogen and nuclear fission couldn't kill anyone for some reason you didn't give exactly, then hydrogen fusion should be no prob. So how about you go stand on the sun and take notes about how it's no big deal and your totally alive.