Don't put all rap into the same basket. Rap started off uplifting and positive. Although I've heard of a theory that gangster rap, a subgenre that basically took over, was created for the reasons you named. Namely materialism and murder.

Modern rap is shit for the most part. But there are a few exceptions. Immortal Technique is definitely worth a listen.

Revolutionary https://g.co/kgs/dlNXh

Hell yeah man. I was into sage francis, de la, tribe and stuff in that zone for a while and pretty much every song is positive and aware.

Strangely enough this coincidence appeared on my front page.

http://i.imgur.com/0KuyKN1.jpg

Not off hand, but I'll find out for you. After dinner though!

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Where the fuck did you get your info the weeknd is a Jew? He's an Ethiopian?

Race =/= religion

No shit, numb nuts. But the there is a minuscule amount of Jews from Ethiopia, a country dominated by Christianity and Islam.

So why would anyone assume he's Jewish?

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So everyone is Jewish until proven otherwise?

BAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA.

I speak German, so I must be German under your shitty logic. You're a fucking idiot.

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He speaks the Semitic language "Amharic".

Because that's the same as Hebrew. You're a retard.

You are so fucking stupid, dude.

So what about the time period before drake

Was tupac a Jew?

Was biggie a Jew?

Was Eminem a Jew?

Was jay z a Jew?

Lil Wayne a Jew?

Please list all the top Jewish rap artists who have controlled rap......ill wait

id guess that all those artists had a jewish manager,label,promoter,etc.....my guess would be they all had jewish help getting where they are...........my list contribution would be the Beastie Boys....all jewish

Maybe they did, I wouldn't blame them if they had a Jewish lawyer or accountant. Ofcourse I'm Stereotyping.

But so what?

You are trying to link, having associations with someone who is Jewish as being controlled by Jews

The lack of logic in this sub is amazing. Maybe it got taken away.....by the jooozzzzzz

And the beastie boys are the only top rappers you can list who are Jewish. Nice job, you deserve a cookie

Next time you want to support asinine claims, have more evidence. Beastie boys wouldn't even be considered top ten

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I actually wasted time and clicked on your links, please specify of the 102 pages in the FBI file where does it say that these actions were being penetrated by the JDL

and when did the JDL become a declared terrorist org?

and again, what percentage of the top rappers are Jewish?

Nicely thought out and written.

This.

There is and was a lot of positive hip hop but the sexy bling shit is what gets on TV these days. It became coopted by forces of $, plain and simple.

interesting thought, although i wouldn't say it was created by the government, it was probably encouraged by the record labels and validated by the world order.

I'm sorry but you need to do your research before you say something like this. Listen to some KRS - one, Immortal Technique, Lowkey, Akala, DISL automatic. Hip hop began as a voice for the lower class, It was a culture that spawned from a lifestyle. Modern day hip hop, the crap you hear on the radio is definitely influenced by major record labels and in turn the government. Hip hop began as a voice for the people, as a way to spread messages of love and unity. The government and so called powers that be realized this and were afraid of the lower class unifying through hip hop and so they took what was (and definitely still is if you find the right artists) a beautiful art form backed by loving messages and turned it into the ugly materialistic, consumer-friendly beast it is today. All mainstream hip hop, at least the vast majority of it promotes murder, drugs and most of all materialism. This is a direct result of the ghetto-bred capitalist mentality and the guidance of the new world order through record labels. Listen to some Immortal technique, listen to some lowkey, Akala and Disl Automatic if you are truly interested in this topic.

This is a direct result of the ghetto-bred capitalist mentality

lol, wut?

Meaning that in the ghetto all they see is poverty. If they want a good life they have to escape that poverty and surround themselves with material objects. No one in the ghetto is going "man, I wish I could get out of here and live a wholesome life of values and give my kids a good education" They just want out and they see being out of the ghetto is making $$$$. Listen to some Immortal Technique

There is no capitalist mentality in the ghetto. Welfarist? Absolutely. Parasitic? You'd better believe. Cat-and-mouse? All day. Capitalist mentality? That's straight-up retarded.

Maybe you need Immortal Technique to tell you all about the ghetto. I don't.

So they actually did something good for a change?

I read an article about this very thing, from a guy who was at a meeting that had to do with all of this. Sucks that I can't remember where I read it. He said that a lot of big time music people were invited to some mansion, and they pitched the rap idea. He supposedly didn't like where it was going and split.

I think it was linked here months ago. I read the same.

Nice theory. The only thing that didn't make sense to me is when you said that people weren't funding the Vietnam war. What do you mean by that? The other thing I would say, is that you need some evidence to back up your theory. I'm not trying to shoot your theory down. I'm just saying that your logic is sound, but you need evidence to back it up.

You have a very narrow view of rap. The radio tends to play only the catchiest tunes of any given genre so of course you're going to get a bad/shallow impression. Trust me I used to feel the same way but I gave real hip hop a shot and now it's my favorite genre, there's just nothing like it. The clever flows and metaphors, the intricate rhyme patterns, and a lot of rappers have real substance to their lyrics. Check out non phixion, Mos def, lupe fiasco, immortal technique, Ill bill, De la soul, earl sweatshirt etc.. then get back to me.

Also you mention that people were not "funding" the war because they were taking lsd. Could you elaborate? I believe wars are paid for through taxes and debt obligations if I'm not mistaken so I don't think their was really much choice in the matter for the average citizen on whether they wanted to "fund" the war or not

here's a link to a book -- called weird scenes inside Laurel Canyon -- that supports the entire musical revolution of the 60's was a government agenda to flood the anti-war movement with druggies and hippies, in efforts to weaken and dissolve it. http://www.davesweb.cnchost.com/ summaries of chapters are found in links on the site. you will probably find it pretty interesting.

also, rap, totally meant to destroy the black community. -- look at Jay Z -- selling drugs turned out to be the best investment in that guys life. how many "oh-zee's" did he have to sell, before he cashed out and got a record deal where he could rap about it for the next thirty years. -- I wonder. crime is encouraged, so they can fill the prisons. (with slaves). before the '60's, the black family unit was very strong, divorce rates were low. they were trapped in ghetto's where opportunities were low, the black man was denied work -- and aid was given to families that did Not have a man in the house. the father was cut out of the picture. children were raised with no fathers. yeah, I wonder when the black community will stop supporting rappers that rap about drugs, objectifying women, exploitation, self-indulgence, apathy, consumerism, and crime-life, etc, etc.

Exactely, and yet a growing amount blame "white-Privelidge" for their Ill's. I also think THAT is a covert gov't sponsored front to cause trouble and distratc people from more important issues. NOT that racial inequality and things like that Aren't important, because they are...Every race of people should be treated equally b/c its the right thing to do, but thats my opinion. Anyway...I agree with alot of what you said. When the Black panthers were established, the gov't did everything they could to destroy them. And eventually they succeeded, with GANGS and CRACK. Crack was distributed thru inner city 'hoods and peoples lives were fucking destroyed. That shit was purposefully made strong, likely maybe even engineered in a lab, to kill and get people hooked.

Before I even read this, there was a lot of shit in the 40s and 50s that was "rap" as we know it. Scat etc. etc. and other countries have rap-like tunes from the past. Rap "as we know it" that is shitted out of TV onto your eye balls, that was created by some sort of fraternal order / government, but I am not sure the exact group. There is a few theories that bad rap music increases criminal behaviors, and raises stock prices, of publicly traded prison stocks like $GEO and $CXW. http://www.complex.com/music/2013/11/rap-conspiracy-theories/record-labels-own-stock-in-jails
Big picture though: The labels thing non-elite are pigs and will eat and fuck them, and don't give a shit about you.

Something to keep in mind. A lot of America's radio stations are owned and/or controlled by Mormons via Mobile Romney and Bain Capital.
That should tell you a lot about what's going on in the music industry.
Btw, rap is not the only genre of music this has happened to. Country music is another genre that, imo, has been hijacked by the corporatistas. Don't believe me? Ask the Dixie Chicks.

One other thing. IMO, the rise of the whole two turntables and a microphone thing is the result of the cuts to music education in schools.

Truth RAP is good https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TUtexPejtA4

Rap music actually originated in places like jamaica, kinda ..the beat and dancing was taken from that type of tribal music/dancing, and when started in america, rap was very very positive and all about the troubles these people faced and how they were gonna overcome their situation. NOW, its the exact opposite. Its all about things that oppress people..Money and material objects. Theres no personal style anymore, its alla bout "fashion and trends" in everything from clothes, to art, to tech. Everyone is consuming instead of creating. Everything now is bought. Nothing is made. While their may be a few out there like Holtz, who go out and do things and build stuff, most have been condiitoned to always buy, buy buy. People dont even buy albums anymore, they download them. Easy to delete, make room for more. No feel anymore, nothing permanent. Thats the way TPTB want it. Easier to remove or take away, and start anew. Like 1984, The news always changes, papers are burned. I really think i was born in the wrong year. Ive always wanted to be a part of the 50's, when america made shit and we exported things. Cars were cooler, and had style, and so did people. They all dresses nice, button up shirts. Nowadays, were all a walking billboard. Why do we wear t-shirts with a Logo on it now? Whats that for? What are we doing? It's like having a logo on your car, or tattooed on you is cool now. Why?

No totally dude, I've never liked "rap" in the mainstream music industry sense. Rock of various kinds and electronica have always been right at home for me, but raps message is all wrong. You nailed it.

Nicely thought out and written.

This.

There is and was a lot of positive hip hop but the sexy bling shit is what gets on TV these days. It became coopted by forces of $, plain and simple.

Where the fuck did you get your info the weeknd is a Jew? He's an Ethiopian?

So what about the time period before drake

Was tupac a Jew?

Was biggie a Jew?

Was Eminem a Jew?

Was jay z a Jew?

Lil Wayne a Jew?

Please list all the top Jewish rap artists who have controlled rap......ill wait