Yes, polls can be manipulated, or even just made up from nothing at all. Even the decision to report the result of a poll, or not, to report it on Page 1 or Page 23 is all political.

Trump actually keeps pointing this out.

most of the pollsters favor one or the other party. i got polled one time by phone all yes or no questions concerning obamas re-election, when i wouldnt answer yes or no they hung up. it didnt matter how you answered it was going to favor obama regardless.

Even if they are not manipulated, when the msm is all propaganda where its heavily biased one way or another, the polls reflect the mindset of a brainwashed people

We have reached the point where everything we know is wrong.

I worked, briefly, for a company that conducted polls. I was not there long, but I was there long enough to figure out a few things about how it worked. The people who owned the business were later convicted of fraud.

They would receive an order for a poll, the questions and criteria for participating, from a third party. Then worker drones like me would receive instructions when we arrived at work before grabbing a phone headset and logging in to a computer terminal. Then we would load up a survey and an autodialer would start calling numbers out of a database.

From time to time the poll would have a ( yes/no ), ( Repulican / Democrat ) type of question right at the start where one of the responses would lead to a "thank them and end the call" type of action. Basically these polls were farming for responses that would favor a specific group's interests. Our "data" would then be reported to whoever commissioned the poll.

I do not know how major polling companies work, I only worked in one small office with a few dozen other people, but I can't imagine the large pollsters have the staff and resources to conduct poll after poll after poll. My best guess is that they outsource the actual dirty work to companies like the one for whom I worked and then use their reports when finalizing their polls.

But working there was hell. Most people seemed to hate it, my guess is because of those apparently rigged polls. Those questions made me feel dirty, so I would ask to conduct a different poll or just pretend to be talking to someone long after they had hung up and just randomly answer the questions so I would have one more "completed" poll on my computer so it looked as if I was actually doing something. This itself was risking the 'loss' of the job, since the supervisor would plug in to random terminals from his desk and listen in from time to time.

People showed up drunk, high, some people drank while working or took "cigarette" breaks. We were constantly calling people who would get angry, say something like "I'm on the do not call list, how many times do I have to tell you people..." Even though I only worked there for a short time, the name of the company we were working for was not how we identified ourselves when we called. That information was in a script we had to read, word for word, on each call. I finally just stopped going in, it made me feel dirty.

Selling addictive drugs to children would probably not feel as dirty, and at least then I could call myself "doctor" or "pharmacist," or something respectable.

Since that experience I have not trusted a single poll.

at least you didn't have to ask people for money. I did that for a few weeks once years ago for a job. Door to door, face to face, worse than getting rejected on phone call. No one gives money to door to door salesmen except maybe elderly people who don't realize it. At least your voting poll thing is in theory for the good of people (I mean if politics weren't rigged, the polls weren't rigged)

They weren't all the way I described, but enough of them were to where I dreaded working there.

Of course. If actual votes can be skewed (and are) at great political and even criminal risk, to think that mere polls aren't skewed/faked is hilariously naive.

This is what I keep trying to tell people. I dont know anyone that supported Obama. My mother works with a lot of black women in the nursing field and they all cant stand him, in the fucking south. They can just say through the media that such and such is leading the polls and people wont question it because why would they lie. It's a fucking shame man.

Polls are misleading and there is a huge margin for error.

From this recent poll in Britain, the frontpage voting intentions are 29% Labour and 40% conservative. But looking at page 7 the raw data is 29% Labour 32% conservative.

They can justify changing the raw data because Labour supporters more often don't bother voting in actual elections. But its misleading to call it voting intentions and misleading to change the data by such a huge margin.

Bernie did very well and won every debate. There are a whole bunch of polls are showing that. The funny part is the MSM use a poll of a 160 people who said Hillary won the debate and then other MSM used that as a reference. They ignored several other polls. I will look for a link to it. Here it is New Proof The Media Is Lying To You About Hillary’s Campaign Another link that is interesting. The Secret Government that ACTUALLY Runs America

one problem is not many watch the debates and even less will vote

You contend that more people watch the debates than will vote? That seems quite off.

yeah you're probably right there, not sure how many watched debates.

That is because they have been brainwashed in a mind war. That is they don't matter. When you have to choose between lesser evils that don't represent even close to what you want, you get apathy.

Can you try to post your links again? They are just plain text

New Proof The Media Is Lying To You About Hillary’s Campaign The other is about the deep state. It is not as good as i remember.

The Secret Government that ACTUALLY Runs America

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ah okay.

The real manipulation takes place in how the questions are asked and how the numbers are spun.

Polls are scientific. At least they should be. But you can back door the results. For example, if you find land line respondents overwhelmingly vote a certain way you can simply use them and get the desired results. One has to really look into the methodology. I've seen polls with rand paul doing well. Whatever the real number is, 4% (what rand is polling) doesn't pass the smell test.

Of course they can and of course they are.

Definitely. The pollsters must be scrutinized for bias and methodology.

Rigged polls are crucial in a rigged electoral system. Firstly, they help manipulate people's intentions to vote the way TPTB want them to, and secondly they provide "independent" corroboration for the bogus electoral result.

You contend that more people watch the debates than will vote? That seems quite off.

That is because they have been brainwashed in a mind war. That is they don't matter. When you have to choose between lesser evils that don't represent even close to what you want, you get apathy.