Does anyone else believe in Reincarnation?
12 2016-04-30 by -INFOWARS-
Energy cannot be made or destroyed.
We are human beings that are a creation of cells interacting with one another and developing consciousness.
When we die, the energy is recycled and a new consciousness is born. We become a new person.
I am not taking this from a Buddhist perspective but a Scientific perspective. I have long thought this.
44 comments
10 ChrisP_VA 2016-04-30
Here's my take on it. Picture a large punch bowl full of water. That represents the essences of the souls of the universe. When you are born, a ladle is taken from it and that is you, pieces of many past souls. When you die, you are poured back in. When someone new is born, a ladle is taken out and maybe a bit of you is in it, along with pieces of many others. That's the energy of the consciousness of the universe. You're just a little part of it. The distinct you only exists in one incarnation and then is mixed back in. Just my thoughts. Not looking to debate them, just how I see it. (edited due to wine)
5 Putin_loves_cats 2016-04-30
That's actually a very interesting way to think about it. That could explain why some people remember "past lives".
1 xaali 2016-04-30
That's awesome. I actually like debating on this stuff but essentially this is what I believe in just in a very eloquent metaphor.
I'll leave this link here for those interested about spiritual stuff http://www.philosophyforlife.org/exploring-the-multiverse-of-spiritual-pluralism/
5 Putin_loves_cats 2016-04-30
That's basically my thoughts on the topic, as well.
4 -INFOWARS- 2016-04-30
I was talking to my friend who works in the Suicide hotlines and he said specifically that he met someone who died really happy because he believed in reincarnation and so would have another shot in life.
-5 Putin_loves_cats 2016-04-30
Well, that's just mental illness. I'd also imagine against the rules of the universe, also. He may of came back as a flea.
5 Rockran 2016-04-30
Dying is against the rules of the universe?
-4 Putin_loves_cats 2016-04-30
Well, the user mentioned a suicide hotline worker, so I'd imagine the person committed suicide, hoping in reincarnation. One could say that would be against the rules of the universe. But, one would have to be spiritual to understand that, and you don't seem like the spiritual type.
4 Rockran 2016-04-30
Why would the universe care?
-2 Putin_loves_cats 2016-04-30
The intelligent creator(s) may have a problem with it.
4 Rockran 2016-04-30
Considering how dangerous the universe is to life as we know it, I doubt that.
0 Putin_loves_cats 2016-04-30
How dangerous is the universe? You ever been off Earth?
6 Rockran 2016-04-30
Given there's no oxygen in space, that just proves my point.
Even being on Earth is dangerous, to survive you need to kill other animals, or if you can live off of plants, other animals are out to kill you. You can even die just from not chewing thoroughly and choking.
Shits crazy dangerous, but you think some god cares about how you end your life?
Oh i'll just pit the creatures of Earth against one another, but I better not see any of them dying by their own hand
1 Putin_loves_cats 2016-04-30
How does it? Also, how do you know. You said you never been off Earth, or at least implied it...
Why did you bring up God? I never said anything about God (religion).
The bold is the key point.
1 Rockran 2016-04-30
No oxygen in space = Inhospitable, dangerous environment.
It's more of a placeholder for a creator of sorts. Why do you capitalise the word 'god' anyway?
But why would they care? If they cared so much about life, why create such a dangerous universe?
0 Putin_loves_cats 2016-04-30
How do you know there isn't oxygen in space or if space even exists? You never left Earth, so how do you know?
Not true. Best research more. I suspect you're like Snape and only relate to your chemistry set. Lot more to life than that....
You were implying religion. Only seemed fit... Why bring the name up, anyways? I certainly didn't...
You keep saying the universe is dangerous, yet have not given me an answer on how the universe is dangerous. Earth may be, but how do you know the universe is? You've never left Earth....
1 Rockran 2016-04-30
Ever been to a high altitude? If there air is more dense at a low altitude, and it thins at a high altitude, it would logically follow that the higher you get, the less air there is.
Get high enough, there isn't any air at all.
Harry Potter reference? I don't get it.
God isn't a name as much as 'human' or 'bird' is. God describes what they are, not who they are. Zeus is a god.
I have though. You need oxygen to breath, right?
I've never gone into a volcano either, but I reckon lava isn't something I want to swim in.
1 Putin_loves_cats 2016-04-30
How high have you been?
10 bucks says you do ;)
Religion would like a word with you.
No you haven't. Sure, but how do you know there is no oxygen in space?
Why?
3 no1113 2016-04-30
No. I don't "believe" in reincarnation. "Belief" is what you have when you don't have valid evidence of a thing. I've studied Dr. Ian Stevenson and his work. Dr. Elizabeth Kubler Ross. Robert Monroe. Individuals of that ilk.
It's not "belief". What I have is an understanding of the evidence that exists regarding the validity of the phenomenon.
It's not belief. It's knowledge of it's existence.
1 coder_lyte 2016-04-30
There are three parts to an organism: Matter, energy, and information.
The organic matter, and energy contained in the molecular bonds of some of that matter are reused by other organisms, thus reincarnated.
Genetic information is transmitted to offspring, and so is reincarnated. Cultural information can also be passed on to future generations, and that would apply as well.
However, when most people talk about reincarnation, they are talking about their memories, experiences, and personality that are preserved and reused. That is the only one of all of these which isn't possible, because the matter, energy, and genetic information may persist after death, but the others do not. When your brain dies, all its information storage and the products of its functions cease.
You can write down your memories, knowledge, behaviors, goals, etc. and someone can later incorporate all that into their own personality, and if they emulate you closely enough some of that can be imperfectly reincarnated in a sense. I believe that is the idea behind archetypes, programming the Christ consciousness into someone.
Your mind does not exist as a thing that leaves your body upon death and gets reused in another organism, no.
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0 coder_lyte 2016-04-30
If that's what you believe, then you are a robot being controlled by something else, and I don't talk to robots.
1 Shivadxb 2016-04-30
Is there a great big warehouse with new souls just waiting around to be born or reborn?
1 aLiEn23ViSiToR 2016-04-30
It seems to me for most sentient beings... Body is a Vessel, Soul is Pure Energy and Mind is Consciousness so add to this DNA and Memories (Information, Experience, Knowledge etc.) that can be "saved" and you basically have immortality anytime/anywhere in know Universe or what ever this time/space it.
1 V1NC3NZ0 2016-04-30
Short answer; Yes.
1 gearhead454 2016-04-30
Some will say that time is a thread in a tire. Always repeating in "almost" the same place as long ago. If you can grasp what infinity really is, you will understand that reincarnation is a mathematical certainty.
1 Avatar1909 2016-04-30
Not really scientific, though.
1 sweetabix84 2016-04-30
Just recently started listening to this guy... he sums it up nicely
https://youtu.be/mMRrCYPxD0I
1 911bodysnatchers322 2016-04-30
Not only do I believe it, I know it. My childhood visionariy dreams suggested, Ketamine khole and psychedelics verified
the soul is not in the body
the body is in the soul
thats what the movie avatar is about
0 Rockran 2016-04-30
How?
3 Putin_loves_cats 2016-04-30
I'd imagine it depends.
-1 Rockran 2016-04-30
Not if OP wants to put a scientific perspective on it.
4 Putin_loves_cats 2016-04-30
That's true, I guess. However, if you want to go down the simulation theory route, which science is starting to lean towards that possibility. That very well could explain re-incarnation, just not in the way we traditionally think.
2 -INFOWARS- 2016-04-30
Decomposition.
0 Rockran 2016-04-30
But through the whole process you're losing energy.
You die, you get buried under a plant, that plant feeds off of your body and some fruit grows - But it took energy to grow the plant and produce the fruit. So the production from the plant is less than what you put into it.
It's not like you can just decompose, feed a plant to bear fruit and feed a person, who then dies, decomposes and keeps feeding the plant in an endless closed loop.
1 -INFOWARS- 2016-04-30
I think it's a perpetual flux though. We eat animals that eat the plants so the energy is transferred. We have never gained nor lost energy.
2 potxolo 2016-04-30
We're gaining and losing energy constantly, as we speak.
Or perhaps you meant "we" as the universe as a whole, in which case you're correct.
1 Rockran 2016-04-30
But that's literally against physics.
You're losing energy at every stage of the cycle. 1 body cannot feed a plant enough for it to provide food sufficient to keep 1 human alive. You need a lot more energy.
0 Jedy_hacker 2016-04-30
It takes millions of years if not billions for matter to go from cooled state(matter) to heated state( energy , think of plasma inside of stars) and back to cooled state(after the star goes super nova). So , no if you die , you will never "reincarnate" back on Earth.
One interesting thing to ask yourself , is what happens with "information" or in oher words , our memories , after we die.
Do they get saved somewhere? Is there an archive out there?
2 Ihopeitsround 2016-04-30
Are you suggesting we live in some kind of computer?
1 Jedy_hacker 2016-04-30
No , i'm considering the universe might be a super inteligence , and someone , something might be recording universal hystory.
0 potxolo 2016-04-30
Why would the memories be preserved, when the events clearly aren't?
1 Jedy_hacker 2016-04-30
Clearly aren't ? How do you know that . That's literally imposible to know considering we still don't have a clear definition of what "space" , really is.
0 Chief_Slumlord 2016-04-30
Our energy is turned into heat through decomp; the insects and critters that feed on us absorb that energy and if sealed up then our energy is transferred through the walls of whatever container we are in.
So no, I do not believe in reincarnation in the way religion or spiritual belief systems portray. Our consciousness doesn't get recycled.
0 Putin_loves_cats 2016-04-30
How dangerous is the universe? You ever been off Earth?