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I posted the other thread. I agree that was an excellent analogy. However, it didn't address my real question & it doesn't fully answer /u/thoughtfulkitten either. I would genuinely like to see some serious opinions on crisis actors.

Why bother to set up fake scenarios, leaving room to be exposed, when it would be much tidier to actually kill everyone involved?

The people hired actually believe they're doing 'good'. If they were to wholesale slaughter a bunch of innocent people, these operations would not find the actors/players to commit such atrocities. You can see how short-sighted some fervent people can be towards abortion, gun control, feminism etc.. same with those who are patriotic. Look at how some people adore their sport's teams. Some are moved to actual violence over sports. Now if the stakes were higher, say, involving your country's future - you can only imagine what a person would do.

Also, money. Money can make a person do anything.

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I did see it & upvoted for hella interesting. It's an excellent example of the what, but I guess I'm still stuck on the why.

Maybe this is why we are all becoming more aware....we have the time to look and think....evolution

That's probably one of the best analogies I've seen regarding the topic and sheds some light on occultism:

1. http://andrewgough.co.uk/P3004.jpg (beehive above the eye)
2. http://dr-david-harrison.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/12/Screenshot-2015-11-17-11.04.16.png

The people behind this type of fraud now realize that one day they could be brought to justice, so it's in their interests not to kill people, also that allows them to bring more people in on their plans to back them up, and justify the stage shows as "For the greater good of society", but if they are killing people in false flags like 9/11 and 7/7, they will always be seen as scum.

The WTC7 screwup has taught them that their plans can never be perfect and there's always a risk of getting found out. So in the future they would prefer to be found out as 'social engineers', not as 'murderers'.

This makes me wonder if there are separate factions involved. One is absolutely muderous, as evidenced by 9/11. It would be far too late at this point to worry about how they'd be seen. Maybe a different group uses actors instead?

We are naturally complacent and have a myopic world view... we naturally just want to protect ourselves and live a good life. We ignore most of the warning signs, and just go along to get along.

But on 9/11, thousands of people lost loved ones in the twin towers, and those people were suddenly and swiftly snapped into a different world... a bigger world, and they want answers.

The parents and family of victims of 9/11 are probably the hardest to dismiss according to the mainstream narrative. Technical objections can easily be dismissed by parading a panel of experts, but general distrust of the story, delivered by an actual victim of the attacks or their family... that carries a lot of weight for many, many people who are hard to wake up, otherwise.

Imagine 50 actual kids getting killed at something like Sandy Hook... you would have 50 pissed off parents, and going by the numbers, about half or more will prefer the SOLUTION to the problem that they don't want.

Half of the parents might go along with "More gun control", but the other half are going to say, "Gun free zones are bullshit!"

All of the parents have the potential to question the narrative, openly... with the same shield that soldiers get when they criticize the military.

Imagine one of the children that died was the nephew of Wolfgang Halbig... They'd just have to kill him. That would be way too potent an investigative force. He's already getting so far on just the idea he's a school safety consultant... the link of being a parent or uncle would resonate with a completely different crowd.

They are able to completely monopolize that crowd, because they invented the victims. The narrative is much more controllable.

I've got a friend that lives near sandy hook. The funerals for those children were very real. So was the harassment several parents endured after their children were murdered and they had people confronting them saying they were acting and they never had kids in the first place.

I think 9/11 was the big test and we failed beyond their wildest expectations. Once they saw the public fall for it hook, they knew they were golden.

I have no doubt that real children were killed at Sandy Hook. There is no way that Adam Lanza did all that, at least not by himself, but I believe the victims were real. Why would they chance not having real victims?

If there were real victims, many would have been evac'd out by helicopters to the nearest hospital... even if they were unresponsive or had their guts spilling out. Not one helicopter.

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If it was a top down exercise there would be a lot less guilt for those involved if they were involved in a big lie/event vs the slaughter of innocents.

Psychopaths don't care about guilt, particularly when they are advancing their agenda. Look at how many they killed on 9/11.

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I think SH was the false flag that was finally going to allow them to revoke the 2nd Amendment. I think they were surprised by the pushback and quickly realized that armed resistance would be the result.

Honestly, I don't think it would be that hard to verify if the victims were real people. Surely, neighbors and classmates would know if they weren't real people.

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Sandy Hook - Neighbors Discuss the Lanzas [1:58]

When their kids get old enough they move? never heard of a neighborhood like that.

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Though the evidence makes it appear there were no children, the whole thing was just a stage show, here's a documentary that investigates in detail

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oD0z275nQnM

I've seen it and it is suspicious. The interviews with the coroner are beyond ridiculous. That doesn't mean the kids weren't killed. I firmly believe that SH was the false flag event that was going to be used to revoke the 2nd Amendment but they were surprised at public resistance. Parker may have been a plant. There were most definitely actors in the Boston Bombing, but that doesn't mean that it didn't occur.

I'm not sure why people think that the wealthy wouldn't murder a school full of children to advance their agenda.

One of the people above explains why. It isn't about being merciful. The greedy, retarded reptile-brain types learned that when you kill real people, living family members might get involved and question shit that doesn't add up. Fake victims, no family, no questions, no problems. Get it?

Yeah, but what if some pain in the ass reporter/investigator starts talking to neighbors, classmates or school employees? All it would take is one person to say, "The children killed weren't in my class/neighborhood as reported." To use fake victims, they're relying on unknown people to keep their mouths shut.

Well, I don't think they have much to worry about with reporters. And there are private investigators now who've tried to blow the whistle. Doesn't seem much different to me.

There is most definitely much government/media fuckery associated with SH. It is a lot like 9/11--numerous aspects of the story that don't add up and the government refuses to explain them. I hope I'm wrong and nobody was killed, but I doubt it.

You were good till you somehow got fooled into thinking kids died at sandy hook. Show me a death certificate. Show me any blood anywhere near that school on the day of the shooting. HELL prove that it was even an active school that had classes and teachers in it!

lol. I guess you must have all the death certificates for all the 9/11 victims, since you're looking at it that way.

Most of the 9/11 victims were fake also. Look it up.

When you say "look it up" do you mean I should find some fringe conspiracy article that makes the claim, and then take that claim seriously for no real reason? Because there really is no legitimate source or compelling data anywhere that suggests 9/11 had no fatalities. I live in Pennsylvania and have family in New York, I've talked to dozens of people since 2001 who personally lost family and friends in the 9/11 attacks.