Let food be your medicine.

Anything pushed in hospitals other than trauma care is poisonous snake oil.

Yeah they did a bait and switch. They took it out of routine pediatric vaccines, then immediately added the flu shot to the schedule, which contains 25 micro grams per dose. Other vaccines are also allowed to claim they are preservative free, but can contain up to 1 micro gram. The general public think thiomersal is long gone, which is simply incorrect.

Thanks for this post. I had no idea they moved thimersol to flu vaccines.

If you're wary of OTC drugs, I just wanted to give you a heads up to be careful with skin lotions, sunscreens in particular. Transdermal drug delivery is a thing. Your body absorbs stuff you rub on your skin. My rule of thumb is don't put anything on your body that you wouldn't eat.

3 months ago, I would have been one of those who roasted you alive, but, well, a lot has happened in 3 months. :/. Can you help me understand why the scientific community is so radioactively "pro" about vaccines? I'm only just beginning to understand that I know nothing, but "science" has been my go-to for so long it's difficult to face the truths I'm learning where that is concerned. Anything you have is appreciated.

Vaccines are there to induce highly profitable lifelong autoimmune diseases, which make you into a customer of pharma for life.

They can't make money out of you when you're healthy. So they come out with junk science, which is based mostly on assumption, that vaccines bring more benefit than harm, they avoid and refuse all real studies to assess the good against the bad. Propaganda gets pumped out from the top of the industry down to those below, some believe it, some don't, all they all have to repeat it or they get ostracized by the industry.

If vaccines were stopped there would be very few sick people, pharmaceutical profits would be decimated from current levels, that's why they are so pushed so hard.

For anyone interested in the latest research from the experts

Vaccine Safety Conference Session - Dr. Beatrice Golomb, PhD

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SZHyLODgUvs

Vaccine Safety Conference Session 13 - Dr. Yehuda Shoenfeld, MD, FRCP

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wf8sw3n7xrE

Vaccine Safety Conference Session 17 - Christopher A. Shaw, Ph.D, Professor

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fmgw3KNjEJ4

Vaccine Safety Conference Session 3 - Dr. Vicky Debold, PhD, RN

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GG2bfrrgvU4

Vaccine Safety Conference Session 18: Dr. Romain Gherardi

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ICQD9wuQmSc

Vaccine Safety Conference Session 16 Dr. Christopher Exley

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JKfbkeQyw84

Vaccine Safety Conference Session 20 - Dr. Richard Deth, PhD

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z1L84EQ9S5k

Can you help me understand why the scientific community is so radioactively "pro" about vaccines?

The scientific community is just another hierarchical system bound by funding.

Because the incidences of danger to health from taking vaccines, are a minuscule fraction of the incidences of dangers to health from the diseases they provide protecton for.

The dangers from vaccines are from unnecessary additives. These are not a necessary risks. These chemicals don't even need to be there in the first place.

But why can they add it if there is no benefits and why do they add it? Someone said autoimmune disorders. Can the additives really do that? Is there proof of someone getting sick? Or is it like fluoride where its supposed to dull your mind and make you more subservient?

It's actually a fairly simple concept if you think about it. Vaccines add adjuvants like aluminum because they invoke a massive antibody response from the human body. When testing for vaccine effectiveness they usually just test for the amount of antibodies produced. They really want to make sure that your body knows to reject the virus that is present. The problem is that sometimes the body can't recognize the difference between the virus and the other stuff in the vaccine. Vaccines routinely have ingredients such as soy oil, peanut oil, MSG, egg albumen, bovine fetal serum. Concurrently we've had an unprecedented explosion in serious allergies to peanuts, soy, and eggs. A lot of autouimmune conditions are related. Almost all children with serious autism also have severe gastrointestinal issues. There've been some studies on the GI tracts of autistic children, and they found hugely increased measles antibodies present. It basically looks like these childrens' bodies have been tricked into thinking they're battling measles. The result is a huge amount of inflammation in the gut, which means that nutrients are no longer absorbed and sent to the brain during a critical time in a child's development.

Autoimmune conditions happen when a body begins attacking itself, vaccine developers have gone too far to increase antibody response to make their vaccine appear more effective. The problem when you use aluminum/thimerosal to invoke an antibody response is sometimes the body goes haywire and starts attacking things you don't want it to.

You gave the most efficient, lay-person friendly summarization of how vaccines cause auto immune diseases. Thank you for putting it into so few, well placed words. If human cell lines were used in the development of a vaccine, that vaccine may induce some people's bodies to start attacking similar cells in overactive immune response.

That's completely fascinating. Wow. I'm blown away, truly.

So much for, "Do no harm."

There are many studies showing that vaccines cause autoimmune disorders such as MS, Diabetes Type 1, Muscle Wasting Diseases etc, the vaccines even warn on the inserts

They can add whatever they want because they are not legally liable for the effects of their vaccines.

Furthermore, they have basically no oversight on their research or testing. Nor do they perform actual double blind testing with placebo.

The information is all publicly available, ingredients, effects, etc.

They add them under the assumption that those adjutants will trigger an allergic reaction and help create anti-bodies. It's involves a bit of mental gymnastics, and is a brute force method that accepts that there will be some collateral damage.

Have you done a thorough research into this, or are you just regurgitating what you've been told?

The majority of the people recover from polio, most people get chickenpox and recover, I got it without getting vaccinated. On top of that vaccines are not 100% effective.

Bu-but, muh herd immunitay!

I got chickenpox without vaccination too when I was a kid because I am very old.

Because I am very old, I remember all the sad kids trying valiantly to hobble along in leg-irons at school who had "recovered" from polio.

They were like spastic kids, couldn't walk without their legs being strapped into the irons and the big clunky ankle-supporting leather boots the irons hooked into at the heels. even in the leg irons, they were jerking like marionettes and falling over often.

It was pitiful to watch, and the healthy schoolkids would ostracise them.

You call it recovered, I call it crippled for life.

No medicine is 100% effective, especially your "alternative" medicines and treatments, and also traditional medicines and treatments.

But you are the one talking 100%, I merely referred to the fact that the chances, or statistical odds, are hugely greater for being sickened, injured, maimed or killed by the diseases, than the chances of being sickened, injured, maimed or killed by the vaccinations.

Because I am young I've been able to watch cousins grow up who, thanks to vaccines and other barbaric medical practices of our times, will require assistance for the rest of their lives.

They'll never know the pleasure of human connection, and can barely stand human touch.

Because you are old, you've never had to witness claims denied in the kangaroo vaccine court, or seen family's torn apart due to the medieval practices that our society falsely calls medicine.

Because you are old you think with pride about how your generation eradicated disease. When all you did was make a few very rich and help out your own retirement by poisoning future generations.

You're willfully ignorant, and complicit in the medical rape perpetrated on the youth of the world.

Because you are old you got to see a few suffer due to nature. Because we are young we get to watch many suffer due to your own selfishness.

Thanks for your personal anecdote. Do you actually have any solid evidence of the causes of your cousins' unfortunate disabilities?

The vaccine court is a no-fault court! They will award damages even if you can't prove vaccines were a cause!

As for the rest of your hogwash - sadly, you are deluded.

Thanks for your personal anecdote. Do you actually have any solid evidence of the causes of your cousins' unfortunate disabilities?

Yes I do.

The vaccine court is a no-fault court! They will award damages even if you can't prove vaccines were a cause

Just because you're very old, doesn't mean you have to continue to be ignorant. How many claims do they deny again?

As for the rest of your hogwash - sadly, you are deluded.

Continue to think that, most old people will. You can't teach an old dog new tricks after all.

Or, leave your ego behind and conduct a thorough, rigorous inquiry into the matter. If you're willing to leave your illogical preconceptions behind you'll find the world looks very different than you one imagined.

You say you have solid evidence of the causes of your cousins disabilities but you are asking me to take your word for it because you haven't provided any evidence.

The vaccine courts started denying a large number of claims in around 2000 when they were suddenly deluged with people claiming that mercury in thiomersal caused autism.

They had to make their standards more stringent and reduce fast-tracking claims since there is absolutely NO evidence that vaccines cause autism.

Withered and paralysed limbs due to polio have been around for thousands of years, since at least Egyptian times. In countries where there is low rates or no vaccination there is still a high death rate from polio. Polio was eradicated in Australia and the USA due to widespread vaccination. All medicines have a failure rate, vaccines included. The rate of injury due to vaccines is still a small fraction of injuries due to the disease. The difference is, if you are injured due to a medicine or a vaccine, you can try to sue for compensation. If you are injured due to a disease, you cannot.

How many of those polio kids did you see at school? I've seen a lot of horribly crippled kids when I went to school. Partial facial paralysis, autism, dementia, and that's not even touching the side effects of psychiatric meds.

The majority of the scientific community that advocates for vaccines is either incompetent or has not done a thorough research and trusts the bought and paid for opinions of experts.

I think it's important to understand that the scientific community as it exists currently is a highly dogmatic organization. Research funding is paid for by either corporations, or government. Research that violates profitable dogma is either hidden, or researchers find themselves without funding.

I'd advise disregarding claims that the subject is too complicated to understand, it's not. Another commenter has given you a good place to start a self study, but honestly just understanding the published research is enough to reveal that vaccines as they currently exist are a joke.

Well said!

I largely agree. As an example, because the company I work for is still in the clinical stages we generate $0 revenue and all funding is provided from the government and a few organizations. The funding from the government is not entirely based on the safety and efficacy of our vaccine, but the private organization donations are.

I'd like to offer a slightly different perspective from someone who can read the science, and has read the package inserts. The additives are put into the vaccines because they would not work otherwise. Live viruses and whole (dead) viruses used to be used almost exclusively. But they found that a person will shed live viral cells for a long time after (if you read the package inserts, you will still find this warning in the MMR...viral cells shed for 14-28 days through mucus). So they started using fractions of the virus, but that made it much less effective. So now you have to add something to "prime" the immune system, so it recognizes that there is something to fight. Unfortunately, aluminum is common (this can be removed slowly from the brain with malic acid). I have read some papers on neuro-immunology, which said that this also primes the immune system in the brain to respond with brain swelling as a first response, and for an extended period (3-6 months after each vaccination). So if any other illness is contracted, brain swelling will likely occur.

Next problem....because of the previously mentioned viral shedding, anyone who has ever read their package inserts to their chemo drugs will read the warning to stay away from any individual who has recently received a live or dead virus vaccination (I was on 4 different chemo agents that said this on the insert). This means that, even though the dead virus vaccines don't carry the viral shedding warning, this does still occur.

Next problem....If you read the package insert to any vaccine, it says that patients with eczema or asthma should consult a doctor before being vaccinated, as adverse events are more likely to occur. That is because these people already have an immune disorder. This would suggest, to me at least, that any individual that already has an autoimmune disorder should also not be vaccinated.

Next problem...Herd immunity was only ever studied for natural immunity against measles. I have read the studies for the current argument for herd immunity that include man-made vaccines and they are flawed. Actually, there are some glaring flaws in their statistics and conclusions. These become apparent if you look specifically at mumps studies (since the vaccine only works for 10 years, and most adults are not given boosters of mumps).

Anyway, sorry for the length of my post. I really only hoped to provide more perspective on what is wrong with vaccines (apart from the money and marketing aspect).

Thank you for this, very informative! Herd immunity appears to be a near total farce. You mentioned vaccine derived mumps immunity only lasting 10 years. DTaP derived whooping cough immunity only lasts 5 years and wanes significantly each year. Tetanus also lasts less than 10. The vaccine derived immunity from most vaccines is short lived at best, yet we have hordes of uninformed people berating "anti-vaccers" over herd immunity, yet these people are likely no more protected than the people who didn't vaccinate. That is, unless they've been getting a multitude of boosters every 5 years.. and nobody does that.

What really got to me was how the news jumped all over that story about the man who was trying to protect his child (who was undergoing chemo and still attending school) by asking for mandatory vaccinations. I was tried on 4 different chemo meds, and each one specifically stated I could not be around anyone who had recently been vaccinated. I guess the father didn't read the insert. His child shouldn't have been in school and exposed to all of those newly vaccinated children. I felt sorry for the child.

Excellent, thank you.

Nobody reads the instructions anymore :(

Thanks for the info! I've been telling people that "herd immunity" is a concept that seemed to pop up out of nowhere when mandatory vaccinations began to be pushed. Now it's being brandished as if it were a self-evident fact.

Excellent comment, thank you for the great information.

roasted you alive

correction: you would have tried to roast us alive...you would not have succeeded

Letting that go I am glad that you have started to think straight. The reason I am skeptical about vaccines is simply based on the populist view of vaccines (pro-vaccine or your literally hitler) lining up with the government and big-pharma view of vaccines (if you haven't had your shots you are hitler). Vaccines are a medicine and we all need to scrutiinize very carefully what we put into our bodies and the bodies of our children...and mass vaccination is no exception...in fact the very reason that it a mass big-pharma pushing scheme is because everyone has bought into the fear. Fear of not doing something and getting a rare disease versus taking something and having your chances of getting sick skyrocket because of side effects...known or unknown.

Sounds like it is YOU who is the one who has bought into the fear.

You are vastly misrepresenting the chances and consequences of ill effects from taking the vaccine, versus the chances and consequences of ill effects from contracting the disease.

Yeah, I'll accept crippling auto-immune disease for the last 2/3 of my life to possibly avoid getting measles... sounds like a good decision!

97% of Polio cases are completely asymptomatic. Autism is an absolutely devastating lifelong condition that also puts a massive strain on the people who have to care for you. 1 in 50 children now.. but the rates are skyrocketing. It used to be 1 in 20,000 a couple decades ago. Yes, they changed the diagnostic criteria for ASD. This change would realistically see the prevalence double. We've seen the prevalence increase 400x. People are still trying to say autism is genetic.. a 400x increase in prevalence of a genetic condition over a couple decades simply doesn't happen.

Dr. William Thompson, head scientist of the CDC blew the whistle and made available the CDC's data on MMR and autism. There IS a causal relationship. He was forced to falsify the data.

You need to take a break from reading wacky sensationalist clickbait antivaxx agenda websites, and do some actual fact-finding research with an open mind. Your parroting of the bullshit about Thompson reveals this starkly.

Anyone who says definitively autism is genetic doesn't know what they are talking about because the causes are still not yet understood.

BUT, what IS understood is that vaccines do not cause autism.

Thanks to Wakefield, SO MUCH research has been done into finding connections between vaccines and autism that now, the only certainty we have with autism is that it is in no way connected to vaccines, except coincidentally because the age range at which the first symptoms of autism begin to appear is around the same time as many infant vaccinations are given.

Actually, fuckwad, I only read peer-reviewed science. Oh, and the original documents leaked by CDC head scientist Dr. William Thompson which demonstrate a clear causal connection between MMR and autism. You get your information from the study he was forced to falsify.

I'll try to phrase this in a way so simple, that hopefully even you can understand.

Encephalitic brain fever is an admitted side effect of MMR
Encephaliitc brain fever can cause brain damage
Brain damage is a known cause of regressive autism (wait.. do you even know how autism is diagnosed? Purely behavioural diagnosis. Many types of brain damage result in ASD diagnosis)

Can you connect the dots or do I have to make it easier for you?

If you are not confident of your ability to successfully demonstrate the logic of your position you will resort to calling people bad names to make you feel better.

As for the rest of your contentions, you need to learn to distinguish lies and bullshit from reliable information.

You are connecting the wrong dots and getting a scary picture that doesn't represent reality.

yeah... but you are a fuckwad. try to not be one anymore. seriously, get the fuck off your ass and STUDY.

so lazy.

unfortuntaely you are incorrect....the flu shot gives a 1 in 100 000 chance in developing guillain barre syndrome...so do the math...for 1 million people to not get the flu that means that that 10 people will develop GB...for 10 million people given the flu shot then 100 people are likely to develop GB and for 100 million people taking that toxic experimental poison, that means they are willing to risk 1000 people getting a crippling life changing disease...so that the other 100 million don't get flu and miss work!

Please.

Here is a little more sophisticated analysis ....http://www.dailycamera.com/guest-opinions/ci_28283397/robert-f-kennedy-jr-doing-math-meningitis-vaccinations

And in last few years the flu vaccine hasn't been working either as was officially admitted, the people I know who took it got sicker than ever for months

I haven't gotten the flu since I was 12 or 13(18 now), and that was around the last time I took a vaccine for it too. They don't help at all, I think they might even make it worse. The worse disease I've gotten is strep/sore throat, but that didn't make me bedridden.

Very similar situation myself. The skeptics around here should aim their well oiled skepticism at the company line's of these big pharma giants.

The flu vaccine is the most blatant cash grab of the lot.

Still, people line up for their shots...

They so do. I have to question something so routinely administered literally everywhere profit can be made: Walmart?!??

guillain barre syndrome

That is complete bullshit.

You are trying to mislead by making it sound like a vaccine is the only cause of GB.

In fact, influenza itself is one of the causes!

Your figures are totally wrong.

Guillain-Barré syndrome can affect anybody at any age, afflicting only about one person in 100,000, REGARDLESS of whether they were vaccinated.

Usually Guillain-Barré occurs a few days or weeks after the patient has had symptoms of a respiratory or gastrointestinal viral infection.

"Two thirds of people with Guillain–Barré syndrome have experienced an infection before the onset of the condition. Most commonly these are episodes of gastroenteritis or a respiratory tract infection. In many cases, the exact nature of the infection can be confirmed. Approximately 30% of cases are provoked by Campylobacter jejuni bacteria, which cause diarrhea. A further 10% are attributable to cytomegalovirus (CMV, HHV-5). Despite this, only very few people with Campylobacter or CMV infections develop Guillain–Barré syndrome (0.25–0.65 per 1000 and 0.6–2.2 per 1000 episodes, respectively).[8] The strain of Campylobacter involved may determine the risk of GBS; different forms of the bacteria have different lipopolysaccharides on their surface, and some may induce illness (see below) while others will not.

Links between other infections and GBS are less certain. Two other herpesviruses (Epstein–Barr virus/HHV-4 and varicella zoster virus/HHV-3) and the bacterium Mycoplasma pneumoniae have been associated with GBS. The tropical viral infection dengue fever and Zika virus have also been associated with episodes of GBS. Previous hepatitis E virus infection has been found to be more common in people with Guillain–Barré syndrome.

Some cases may be triggered by the influenza virus and potentially influenza vaccine.

An increased incidence of Guillain–Barré syndrome followed influenza immunization that followed the 1976 swine flu outbreak (H1N1 A/NJ/76); 8.8 cases per million recipients developed the complication.

Since then, close monitoring of cases attributable to vaccination has demonstrated that influenza itself can induce GBS.

Small increases in incidence have been observed in subsequent vaccination campaigns, but not to the same extent.

The 2009 flu pandemic vaccine (against pandemic swine flu virus H1N1/PDM09) did not cause a significant increase in cases.

It is considered that the benefits of vaccination in preventing influenza outweigh the small risks of GBS after vaccination.

Even those who have previously experienced Guillain–Barré syndrome are considered safe to receive the vaccine in the future.

Other vaccines, such as those against poliomyelitis, tetanus or measles, have not been associated with a risk of GBS.." SOURCE

Occasionally surgery will trigger the syndrome.

In 1976 there was a small increased risk of GBS following vaccination with an influenza vaccine made to protect against a swine flu virus. The increased risk was approximately 1 additional case of GBS per 100,000 people who got the swine flu vaccine.

The patents on all the most profitable drugs are expiring shortly or have already expired. The Pharmaceutical industry is preparing to take a massive hit to their profits and are looking for more revenue streams. Vaccines have an insanely high profit margin because they are classified as a "Public health measure" instead of a drug, they don't have to go through nearly as rigorous a testing phase as prescription drugs. In fact, no vaccines at all are even studied vs placebo. And their revenue is essentially guaranteed because they're mostly bought by governments, not people.

You're going to see a massive string of overhyped viruses in the next couple decades. Zika is the first. It's a farce.

As someone else mentioned, scientists need funding too. The problem is, corporations that need studies to obscure the dangers of their products pay a lot more than non-profits trying to uncover dangers. "Science" is the new buzzword used to push corporate bullshit on us, just remember: scientists have absolutely no say in the running of these corporations. They are run by greedy psychopaths who don't give a fuck about real science.

Real science is still on your side. Check google scholar, there are a multitude of studies done by real, independent scientists that expose the dangers of certain vaccines. It's important to not treat this issue as black & white. A lot of vaccines have done a lot of good for this world, the problem is greedy psychopaths have taken over what was once a humanitarian endeavour because they saw the profit to be made.

I'm curious what happened 3 months ago. Share your experience?

Thank you for asking, although it may be anticlimactic. While I am a middle aged woman, I have been your typical checked-out American who was inspired by Bernie. That has become an epic rabbit hole that has taken me from anarchist-capitalist reddits to conspiracy sites to prepper pages. I'm trying to take in everything and judge nothing, as I THOUGHT I was a rationalist. Turns out, I was a product of my environment above all else. So, a difficult time, but once one accepts election fraud as a fact, pretty much anything goes.

Edit: FTR, I wouldn't have actually roasted anyone, simply ignored any anti-vax posts, which, somehow, now seems worse...

It's awesome that you're on the journey!

I don't know if you ever listen to podcasts, but I would highly recommend checking out Mark Passio's 'What on Earth is Happening?' He gets into a good amount of speculative stuff later on, but starting from episode one there's a great deal of basic truth that's worth ruminating on.

https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/what-on-earth-is-happening/id435571316?mt=2

That's great; thank you! I'm forever looking for interesting material while cooking/cleaning and the like.

First, welcome aboard. :) Second, much respect. It's not many people who can see beyond the limits of their environment and upbringing. It's really an amazing thing to see past oneself.

1988 vaccine injury compensation act

it would be a good idea to go back and apologize to those you abused over this.

If you read my answer above, you'd have seen that I never even discussed this issue with anyone, instead I ignored it. I was simply replying by quoting the hyperbole in the original post.

However it would probably be a good idea to be aware that it's rude to assume that I need to apologize to anyone. That kind of smug behavior actively discourages others from considering your opinions. I'm an adult, and as such am perfectly capable of moderating my behavior.

at no point did you say you never discussed it with anyone. "would have been one of those who roasted you alive", you said. you should apologize for anyone you did that to. online or otherwise.

stop whining. and you're coming across as a purposeful misleader. and you are losing.

https://m.reddit.com/r/conspiracy/comments/51r7ji/comment/d7ez64o

Do you want to be an influencer of ideas, or do you want people to ignore your stances due to your delivery? You are actively subverting people who are genuinely open to discussion and debate with your insulting behavior. It's clear from the link above that I stated to u/Scroon that I never abused anyone, just ignored the issue. Yet you continue the kind of behavior that actively discourages those who are willing to learn from you from even listening to you. It's unfortunate that a person who has the ability to expand an important message behaves in such a way as to prevent others (who are uniquely willing to listen, as that is a rare opportunity for activists) from hearing that message.

You're feeding a stereotype of activism that does harm to the message, by stridently fighting issues that don't exist. u/Scroon said to me, "Welcome, and congratulations on your journey," because he/she understood the unique opportunity to sway a convert to a new belief system. Your comment actively discourages such conversion.

TL;DR If you want your message heard and considered, DBAD while delivering said message.

I saw this response I think because you mentioned my username. /u/CourageousCauliflowr is being an idiot. You hear that Cauliflowr?

She mentioned that she "would have" roasted someone, not that she did. That's the subjunctive mood. It means it's a theoretical situation that did not actually occur. It's also obviosly hyperbole as she said.

Do you understand these rhetorical techniques?

Thank you, much appreciated! It's true, though, that you clearly understood the truth about humanity, that we all learn on our own time, and that those who have already learned truths that can help others should go about sharing that information in a way that facilitates the discussion. It hurts the message otherwise, and after all, isn't that the whole point of these kinds of posts, to share knowledge that improves health?

exactly my point. sugarcoating presents a false message. time for folks to stop attempting to gaslight those of us who tell it like it is.

you're such an ass nobody even reads your shit and you get blocked, but you keep fighting the good fight

you are indeed "no one"

Damn dude, it's been 45 days. Get a life. And I believe I wrote "nobody" mmmkay?

damn, dude. if you don't like reddit archive policy, whine to the admins.

stop lying.

"would have" is bad enough.

and "would have".. but never did? then you wouldn't have... OR ELSE YOU WOULD HAVE. that's the reality of past conditional language as it coincides with action.

this isn't rocket science.

You're right. It's not rocket science. It's grammar.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Subjunctive_mood

Subjunctive forms of verbs are typically used to express various states of unreality such as wish, emotion, possibility, judgment, opinion, obligation, or action that has not yet occurred

"would have" is bad enough. and "would have".. but never did? then you wouldn't have... OR ELSE YOU WOULD HAVE. that's the reality of past conditional language as it coincides with action

grammar ain't rocket science.

haha. you condescend to someone who is far more advanced in research and practice than you. if people want to "tone police", they only distract from the point to salve their egos. YOU ARE WRONG. deal. or don't. doesn't matter to me whether you join my side. any joining of my side that is as a result of nicey-nice-nice nonsense is fake anyway.

just. stop. whining.

It's hard being smart and being wrong; I understand. I proved my point: that I already said I didn't abuse anyone. It's just too bad that someone so advanced in their research and practice, who could really have an effect on the public perception regarding vaccines, can't simply admit it and move on.

I'm sure you'll find somebody else to condescend to, just try and make sure you're correct in your assumptions first. Peace out.

i'm not going to read that; but you should stop whining.

Thanks for this post, it's a touchy subject for a reason. Having kids myself, there are certainly incentives for the vaccines, as in my state, kids need them to attend school.

One anacdote I can share is my 12 month old daughter had a bad cold at the time of her one year visit. Since her previous 3, 6, and 9 month vaccines had made her out of it and cranky for couple days, I asked to delay the administration of the vaccines until she was better from her cold.

You would have thought I asked them to do something horrible. They were very defensive about the request. I asked the doctor if the efficacy of the vaccines was dependent on such a short period of time, like a week. I asked if it really mattered if we waited a week till she was better. Ultimately, they admitted that there is more like a few months window and that we could reschedule to bring her in another time.

I didn't reschedule, but just brought her in for her 18 month checkup. We had a different doctors and nurse who said it didn't matter that we skipped 12 month administration since there are so many, the efficacy periods overlap.

In short, I am really on the fence about this whole process and the different information that is presented by multiple health care providers. And how easily they get frustrated with you for asking relevant questions.

Don't let them bully you. They pushed DTAP on me when I was pregnant so hard you'd think I was criminally negligent for saying no. Turns out DTAP had never been tested to be safe for pregnant women.

Turns out DTAP had never been tested to be safe for pregnant women.

Same with flu shot ... It's totally insane they are pushing this on women.

Thank you so much for the reminder to be my and my children's advocate. Have a great day!

And how easily they get frustrated with you for asking relevant questions.

This is because they don't have the answers. Remember, Doctors are people who memorized and regurgitated information for at least 18 years. They've got a lot of ego, and debt, invested in being right, but usually have completely lost any ability to think critically.

They've been told that vaccines are good, because of x, y, and z. But, they never took the time to look into the foundations of these beliefs because they were being bombarded with a huge amount of information that they had to memorize and regurgitate.

Even assuming that the fundamental suppositions behind vaccine effectiveness were true, giving them to a child before 12-18 months would be worthless because before then you don't possess the sort of antibody response system used to justify the administration of vaccines.

If ever you want to get the full story from the experts, here are presentations given at the Vaccine Safety Conference, anyone who watches these will never vaccinate again.

Vaccine Safety Conference Session - Dr. Beatrice Golomb, PhD

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SZHyLODgUvs

Vaccine Safety Conference Session 13 - Dr. Yehuda Shoenfeld, MD, FRCP

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wf8sw3n7xrE

Vaccine Safety Conference Session 17 - Christopher A. Shaw, Ph.D, Professor

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fmgw3KNjEJ4

Vaccine Safety Conference Session 3 - Dr. Vicky Debold, PhD, RN

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GG2bfrrgvU4

Vaccine Safety Conference Session 18: Dr. Romain Gherardi

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ICQD9wuQmSc

Vaccine Safety Conference Session 16 Dr. Christopher Exley

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JKfbkeQyw84

Vaccine Safety Conference Session 20 - Dr. Richard Deth, PhD

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z1L84EQ9S5k

Thank you so much for the response. I will watch them.

You're very welcome!

school is a brainwashing system, top to bottom, full stop.

I was recently informed that they have a different manufacturer for the shots given to welfare recipients.

I work for a company making a vaccine funded by Bill and Melinda gates. Aluminum phosphate is a common adjuvant and some of the testing I do requires that I remove the adjuvant.

Help me understand what this means for the uninformed masses.

Vaccines are first developed without adjuvants in a buffer used to maintain the product. Through development I can tell you there is nothing malicious about the formulation. We test the product, if it demonstrates the characteristics that we need then we'll produce a new formulation with adjuvant. Aluminium Phosphate is perhaps the most common and adjuvants help stimulate an immune response. Our data proves greater titer levels of IgG production with the use of an adjuvant. If there is a conspiracy anywhere in this, it would be at CMO facilities. Edit for grammer.

Wow.. blow the whistle!

Just did some digging into our materials database, we do use thimersol.

In which vaccines? The CDC factsheet shows that thimerosal is still used in a bunch of flu vaccines and a few others like meningococcal. Hopefully they aren't adding it without specifying in the ingredients..

I can't say, I don't want to lose my job. We aren't on the market yet.

you don't need to have insider access to know about the thimerosal anyway. time for you to get another job.

Easy for you to say.

not at all. i've completely left my FAMILY, let alone a good job for activist reasons.

I have no evidence of foul play. However, knowing who funds us and seeing the depopulate videos tied to vaccines it makes me anxious.

I think these things can be harmful, but not all vaccines contain it. When explaining we should be very clear about amounts.

not at all. i've completely left my FAMILY, let alone a good job for activist reasons.