Has Wikileaks Has been Compromised? MEGATHREAD

535  2016-11-11 by themosthatedone

I think it is high time that we address the elephant in the room. I am not saying to stop what we are doing, but we need to band together and get wikileaks to prove themselves, or we need to take everything read with a grain of salt.

Wikileaks just has not been the same since the silencing of Assange, in October

They created a PGP key for the very purpose of validating their authenticity, and have yet to sign a press release since this election fiasco...

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The Deadman's Switch

October 16, 2016: The official @Wikileaks twitter account posted a series of cryptic tweets:

pre-commitment 1: John Kerry 4bb96075acadc3d80b5ac872874c3037a386f4f595fe99e687439aabd0219809

pre-commitment 2: Ecuador eae5c9b064ed649ba468f0800abf8b56ae5cfe355b93b1ce90a1b92a48a9ab72: ecuador

pre-commitment 3: UK FCO f33a6de5c627e3270ed3e02f62cd0c857467a780cf6123d2172d80d02a072f74

This is something that Wikileaks has not had a history of doing. People have interpreted this as an encryption commitment scheme, and that these are SHA256 hashes, but none of the files on the wikileaks site, nor do the files in the wikileaks insurance torrent, check with any of these hashes.

The other speculation is that these are the actually keys or passwords to the encrypted files within the wikileaks insurance files. This however, is also false.

I think that the hash itself is a signature to the tweets that can be verified by WL partners who see the messages. I think that it is possible that precommitment is being used, in this sense, as a deterrent to a retaliation from an opponent (See Wikipedia/Precommitment)

It is possible that Assange had intercepted communications between Kerry and Ecuador. Or that he had caught wind that Kerry was going to leverage the FCO against Ecuador to extradite/give-up Assange. These tweets could have been the message for help. Was everyone who could have interpreted these messages also compromised? Is that why we have no official statement from the new controller of the WL twitter? No explanation except: Julian Assange's internet link has been intentionally severed by a state party. We have activated the appropriate contingency plans. They pretty much acknowlege a deadman's switch...but there seems to be more that we weren't told.

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John Kerry, the coup, and the Guantanamo Express

It is highly coincidental that the cryptic tweets talk about John Kerry. The Secretary of State just happened to be in Londan, near the time of the cryptic tweets. He was supposedly there in an effort to renow Syrian peace efforts. Any news on any treaties from that day? Nah...Kerry wasn't there for that. He was organizing a coup on Wikileaks.

Supporters responded to the dead man switch by meeting at the Ecuadorian embassy. One of the supporters setup a periscope live stream that had thousands of live viewers, when suddenly the stream was cut, and there were rumors that an "unnamed crew" entered the embassy during the outage.

Wikileaks even tweeted this photo...a few days later: PHOTO: Heavily armed 'police' appear outside Ecuadorian Embassy in London where Julian Assange has political asylum (photo, Tuesday morning)

I had come across several other tweets and articles indicating that other people in the area had been met by armed SWAT that confiscated their phones, and barred entrance into the streets neighboring the embassy. If someone can find links, I would appreciate this.

Subsequent to the deadman tweets, and the rumors of a heavily armed extraction team, we have a jet that mysteriously takes off from London and speeds off to the United States.

/u/JasperPennybottom posted a detailed explanation of the jet that mysteriously left London around the time that Assange was least heard from.

It looks as if a jet, that has ties to the CIA, had been tracked from Assange's location to Raleigh, NC. Raleigh is a stone's throw from several detention facilities known to be used for court-martials, war crimes, and other spook related stuff. The post by /u/JasperPennybottom has server good links, that give serious credibility to this theory.

Wikileaks tweeted:

BREAKING: Multiple US sources tell us John Kerry asked Ecuador to stop Assange from publishing Clinton docs during FARC peace negotiations.

The John Kerry private meeting with Ecuador was made on the sidelines of the negotiations which took place pricipally on Sep 26 in Colombia.

in regards to a meeting that Kerry supposedly had with Ecuador to turn off Assange's internet.

Was it just the internet getting turned off, or was Assange in custody?

What sources does wikileaks have for this? I'm feeling like this was high up enough to where it was on a need-to-know.

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Pamela Anderson and the last meal So, how does Pamela Anderson fit in to all of this? She apparently visited Assange relatively close to time of Assange's disappearance. Some people are speculating that she was sent there to make the conspiracy folks look way out there. https://twitter.com/pamfoundation/status/787351204288430082

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The new feel of the Podesta email leaks, and the new attitude of the WL Twitter

For over a decade, the @Wikileaks twitter was pretty non-opinionated and was almost robotic in the release of leaks. Post deadman keys and "contingency plans", the twitter has re-tweeted bias articles by Politico, and even made veiled threats. It was almost like watching @KimDotCom

The Podesta dumps started to feel like they might be moderated. The dumps started out strong, picking up steam every day. It seemed like every day something BREAKING or SMOKING GUN was getting released. The post deadman releases seemed like...something was missing.

Speaking of missing: /u/Cellseat seems to have found a discrepency day-to-day on the email counts. It seems that a number of the emails get removed or hidden. This seems like someone is moderating the emails, and removing anything of substance.

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The Massive DDOS attacks

Packets have been flying, and breaking the internet, in record proportions.

http://www.welivesecurity.com/2016/10/24/10-things-know-october-21-iot-ddos-attacks/

Were these attempts at silencing the deadman switch and the other private deadman's switches?

Supposedly 4chan is being DDoS'd as we speak: https://np.reddit.com/r/conspiracy/comments/5celwx/4chan_under_ddos_after_finding_link_bw_doj_and/

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The lack of cryptographic verification (PGP Signature)

Wikileaks predominantly displays their PGP Public key on their website and their twitter. Why aren't they using it for validation that Wikileaks has not been compromised? We saw the deadman's switch tweets, we heard the rumors, the leaks became bland, and we are supposed to just take the new twitter user(s) word for it? Why would they even create the PGP key to begin with? This is from Wikileaks' website:

Why not Digitally Sign press releases, volunteer emails etc ? wikileaks.org seems to have forgotten that PGP is not simply about encryption for privacy purposes, but that it also provides a mechanism for Digitally Signing and verifying that, say, unencrypted plaintext wikileaks.org press releases or volunteer list emails have not been tampered with or forged. Surely a project which claims to be trying to be transparent and trustworthy, but which will inevitably come under technical and disinformation attacks by those who fear it, should make use of this cheap yet sophisticated technique?

So...none of the press releases have been signed, should we assume that the author does not have the ability to sign, and validate the authenticity of the posts?

I know there are going to be people who don't know what PGP is, but you can read the wiki. From the Wikipedia page for Pretty Good Privacy section Digital Signature:

PGP supports message authentication and integrity checking. The latter is used to detect whether a message has been altered since it was completed (the message integrity property) and the former to determine whether it was actually sent by the person or entity claimed to be the sender (a digital signature). Because the content is encrypted, any changes in the message will result in failure of the decryption with the appropriate key. The sender uses PGP to create a digital signature for the message with either the RSA or DSA algorithms. To do so, PGP computes a hash (also called a message digest) from the plaintext and then creates the digital signature from that hash using the sender's private key.

Wikileaks had started using cryptographic authentication for the Podesta dump:https://wikileaks.org/DKIM-Verification.html But can't verify one of their own press releases? This sure seems...odd.

Many people have been pressing for a PGP signed statement, and it is continually met with silence. The sole reason they created the PGP key was to verify that they are indeed not compromised. It is far time that they do it. It seems like they may be buying time, while a large cluster of servers chip away at cracking the private key.

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*The RT John Pilger Interview and the "Live" phone interview to UMET *

Julian gives an interview to John Pilger.

In this video, there is no defining shot to indicate that John Pilger is even the one interviewing Assange.

There is no dialogue on Assange's part that would indicate that this interview even took place after "Julian's internet was disconnected"

Julian gives and interview to Confrencia Internacional De Software

This sounds genuine...for the most part. But there are the parts that sound very robotic. His speech does not flow well, and it reminds me of the soundboards we used to use to make prank phone calls. Manipulating audio is not a very technical feat. I don't trust it.

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The AMA, the lack of proof, and the overall fail

Yesterday, the "Wikileaks team" did an AMA. The proof was a couple of tweets and a failed attempt at uploading a selfie to imgur. The Imgur proof was never updated, and a mod by the name of {mod deleted their accoutn} verified that the image had also been emailed to the moderators of /r/IAMA. I created a dialogue with this mod, and they had told me that Wikileaks had never offered a PGP signature for proof. The mod has since deleted their entire reddit account. This is a /r/IAMA mod, so basically a reddit employee. They didn't just remove their comments...the account is deleted.Please see:

https://np.reddit.com/r/IAmA/comments/5c8u9l/we_are_the_wikileaks_staff_despite_our_editor/d9vtmh1/?context=3

Unreddit also seems to 404 on this page...can anyone try to find the deleted comments?

There were lots of unanswered questions, and the AMA basically fell apart. Very unlike the AMAs that Wikileaks had done prior to this one...

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I know there is a lot more. I am traveling, but I wanted to get this going. Mods, please sticky this is an important conversation that needs to be had. I have been notified of subreddit dedicated to this: /r/WhereIsAssange, but we have a whole lot more subscribed critical thinkers, here in /r/conspiracy. We need to get the attention of wikileaks. They need to sign a simple message with their PGP.

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I think it is fair to operate under the assumption that they are compromised until it is proven otherwise. You make a great point, why bother making a PGP key and not using it?

This was their canary.

What's a canary? (besides the bird) I am a semi-normie redpilling myself.

What's a canary? (besides the bird) I am a semi-normie redpilling myself

The Canary in the Coalmine. Little bird that was used in coalmines in case of too much gas. If the bird would pass out or die , there would be too much gas and everybody should get out ASAP.

https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/canary_in_a_coal_mine

Oh wow thank you. This is all so crazy, I hope Julian is alive.

His reference is to a "warrant canary" which is when a company might have something on their document saying "We have never received a request by the government for information" or something like that. Then when you do, because it might be illegal for you to say it you just remove that line. So in this case they add in the PGP key and then remove it to say that it's been compromised.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Warrant_canary

Reddit had this happen earlier in the year if I'm not mistaken

Close, at the end of last year. Here's the reddit comment that pointed it out.

https://np.reddit.com/r/announcements/comments/4cqyia/for_your_reading_pleasure_our_2015_transparency/d1knc88/

Warrant canaries are actually a reference to coal canaries. Bretty neat.

Also - warrant canary.

A signal in a document that's absence can be construed to indicate a flaw.

For example,

Apple used to write: "to date we have received no warrants for user data from the federal government" in their annual reports. They no longer do so.

Discussing whether or not an investigation is taking place is a no-no; but now one can assume Apple has had to hand over keys to the Feds.

A bit of a loose example, but canary just means "small signal" - from the coal mining days as the other fella mentioned.

It's used mostly in cases of when a company receives a National Security Letter. Since there is a gag order on the NSL, they cannot explicitly say that a NSL was issued to them. Instead, they use some kind of message that can then be removed if an NSL is issued. For example, Reddit "killed the canary" earlier this year. In their annual privacy report, there used to be a message that went something like "Reddit has never received any sort of National Security Letter from the Federal Government," however this message was removed in their most recent privacy report.

ooooohhhhhh

this is a good explanation, it's basically a sort of protection.

Also, how does Pam Anderson's visit fit into this?

And is anyone able to extract meaningful EXIF data from any of the photo attachments?

I swear I used to be able to get geodata, but not any more. I'm talking about the 14 Fish Podesta pic he sent three times. One of them has (had) geodata coordinates.

Can someone confirm if any of the 14 Fish pics have geo data coordinates?

If all three versions of the 14 Fish pics have zero geo data in them, I'd say something is up.

I saw one theory saying that Pam is just there to make conspiracy theorists look crazy when they include it in theories

Reaching new levels of Meta

UFOs, ancient aliens, flat-earth, sea monsters, ghosts, all this shite is used to distract and attach the absurdity label to conspiracy websites or subject matter.

Pfff, you fucking round-Earthers, always denying the obvious right in front of your face...

Ancient sea-alien ghosts built the pyramids from their ethereal flying saucers.

^ That's the type of shit they want to paint you as believing.

Everybody knows the pyramids were just fancy grain silos

Those with wealth and power will do whatever it takes to preserve and grow their wealth and power - this is axiomatic.

So why am I labelled a 'conspiracy theorist' for understanding this fact? Details matter not once you understand this axiom.

This is funny. You're smug and think you're smart. You aren't.

Do you know what an axiom is, jackass? A self-evident truth, basically.

Those with wealth and power will do whatever it takes to preserve and grow their wealth and power

Absolute NONSENSE, proven false by history and reality. Putting the word "fact" in bold letters doesn't help you any. It isn't a fact.

Okay, SeƱor CIA; duly noted, you piece of subhuman filth.

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I wonder why he accepted her visit? She is so clearly Illuminati.

Maybe he got one last meal in trade for the John Kerry email leak silence?

Some of that polonium coffee

Yup, and now the focus is on child abuse and not the piecing up of american democracy.

its still lose lose for the Cintons/CF and all their 2016 election perps.

some are going to be indicted, some vanish, some have accidents. all their names are mud in the eyes of the public and political observers both domestic and worldwide.

maybe the disgraced apparchiks can find new job opportunities in Zimbabwe helping Mugabe be 'reelected', or North Korea.

It is incredibly hard to tell someone not to investigate child abuse.

Apparently not, as you can see from the lack of anything being done

Fair point, but there is, almost without a doubt at this point, pedophilia happening in the highest echelons and it's the greatest smokescreen of all time. The same thing they use to blackmail/control the upper echelon and then making them take the fall when shit hits the fan? "If you don't prosecute these on these charges I will make it public what you have done at the same party etc".

Milo is talking about it live tonight at Miami university in Ohio, should be interesting

Which is why it's so effective.

Could it be to verify a forthcoming data dump? That's been a suspicion I've had since the hashes first released. I've thought that they were just the first phase of the DMS.

Whey the hashes released there was a lot of discussion about the timing of the DMS. A lot of people (myself included) thought/hoped it would go off on a fairly quick timer. If the timer is longer, as many have suggested, then it may still fire off. Perhaps at the 1 month mark? 2 month mark?

So you think the hashes were for forthcoming leaks that coincidentally had to do with the odd circumstances surrounding his disappearance. John Kerry, UK FCO, Ecuador. I would think that forthcoming dumps wouldn't be so pinpointed. We haven't heard from Julian, since. I wouldn't expect the DMS time to be so long, because of the nature of the infrastructure it relies on. A month is enough time to dismantle the entire organization.

Ok, here is my solidly tinfoil theory (I'm also submitting it for the next Bond film)...

  • someone in the know tips Pam Anderson that Assange is going to be raided. -Pam scrambles to London to visit Assange to tip him off. The only 100% way to ensure the info is delivered to Assange.
  • Assange quickly assembles the data dump and corresponding hash files. The hash files names are targeted at us, the people, to let us know who was involved in the raids.
  • TPTB realize Pam was a tip off and organize the raid quickly before they are ready. This is why is was a little sloppy when it happened.
  • Assange releases the hash files and initiates the DMS just before losing his internet.
  • Assange, and all of Wikileaks is raided.TPTB find passwords to twitter and the WL website. Unfortunately for them the Stochastic Terminator is a program running on multiple servers whose locations are mostly unknown to Assange and the WL staff. TPTB are unable to lockdown the entire Stochastic Terminator network.
  • because the ST is still dumping data, and presumably also holds the DMS key TPTB assume operation of the WL twitter and website. They do this in order to buy time for investigators to locate and hunt down all of the ST server locations. They need to stop the entire network incase someone learns Assange and WL is compromised and instantly trips the DMS.
  • They thought they could end the network well before the election was over hence the misinformation we were fed.
  • The Nov.17 meeting and also IAMA thread are attempts to buy more time to find the servers.
  • ** added;** Anderson returns Nov 15. TPTB recruit her (under duress?) to maintain the alive illusion

I also have a theory how the Stochastic Terminator is running...

Basically it's a program running on multiple hidden servers that is using torrent files to store and retrieve the data. The ST is using fake movies or something like that to hide the data. Randomly one of the servers on the ST network torrents some data, leaks the data, then sends a message to the entire ST network where the data leaks are in the queue. The next day another random servers runs ST and repeats the process. This will continue until the scheduled data leaks are complete. When no more data leaks are available the ST requests input from Assange and if none appears...bam! DMS key.

I'm probably wrong on all of this, but as I said, it's at least a good movie script I'm developing lol!

edit added more Pam theory

I think it took about 2 minutes of torture, and Assange cracked. Assange isn't a trained agent. They wouldn't have a hard time extracting the information they need.

He had to know the possibility of being tortured, this guy is privy to the leaks so he probably knows exactly what the gov(s) will do to him, with written proof. Chances are the data exists both online and offline. Plus who's to say that the public file dumps aren't a red herring? Maybe they're just decoys files with garbage data that can't be cracked just to waste their time while the real DMS is a person or persons who are holding the real dumps offline just waiting and watching for any news on whether he is dead or alive. When you're going to play cloak and dagger might as well go all in.

They got everyone. The FBI anon said they snagged 14 members of wikileaks.

Twitter probably gave up the account without any resistance either.

Idk, they knew what they were up against, I want to believe that they thought this through and will prevail, Trump is president now so I'm sure wikileaks will be sorely missed by the Dems now that the tables have turned.

I'm not sure that they did know. I'm not sure anyone fully understand the capability of the 7th floor group. Virtually unlimited monetary assets. Political control. Control of military, police, and even churches. They get to move any piece they want. They've been in control for a very long time.

7th floor group

That's interesting, I just Googled that and the top result shows that it had a Wikipedia page that has since been removed. Only part of the first sentence in the description is visible.

I just Googled that and the top result shows that it had a Wikipedia page that has since been removed.

http://web.archive.org/web/20161018050824/https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/7th_floor_group

Trump won pretty easily. No recounts from the Clinton campaign? A couple states were won by about 1% of the vote. You would think someone who spent their entire life working toward this wouldn't just give up like that.

I think that if it was just one or two swing states then it would have made sense for her to demand a recount, but it wasn't it was almost all of them, and then he also won Wisconsin which put the nail in the recount coffin. She never even campaigned in that state in the run up to the election.

Link?

LINK?

Were the names of these people published anywhere to be able to check up on them or was it all anonymous? What method of torture would they use?

Got a link to that information?!

Agreed. He isn't a stupid guy so he knows this too. It's why WL doesn't want to know who his sources and why the WL system is set up as it is. It's also why I think the ST runs the way it does, because that meathod jives with what Assange does with his sources. He likely doesn't know where the location of all the ST servers are or what file names the data is stored as. The password to the ST network likely changes also and would require something unique from Assange.

There should be college courses theorizing on all of this vs., well you know, the dumb shit the talk about in college now

Taught by Professor Professorson?

Game theory and I think some compsci and some international relations/national security courses teach on this.

I'm not kidding when I saw I think you have it down pretty accurately.

I really hope not :(

Solid theory, damn. Also, could explain a lot of the leaks lacking authentication, because it's misinfo while they are trying to discredit/damage control the situation. Figured they would be ready to shut down the hash files before raiding though. Doesn't really make sense.

Depending on how long we give them, we may fall for false proof. We've been asking for a month, met with silence. If they suddenly sign something that doesn't feel quite right next week, many of us may just see it as evidence they've cracked the private key. Given enough clock cycles, any key theoretically could be cracked.

Far more likely they crack a person with the key than the key itself but your point stands.

True, but who knows what kind of super computer(s) the NSA/FBI/CIA/DARPA has access to.

You underestimate the time and computing power required to break very strong encryption. That pretty much can't happen any more due to the ridiculous level encryption has reached; the person with the key is always the weakest link.

A public pgp key is how /you/ send encryted info to them that only they can decrypt with their private key. It lets a leaker guarantee their email won't be intercepted and understood.

It is not a means for them to verify information they send.

Your public and private keys are a pair, the math works both ways. If I encrypt a piece of information with your public key the only way to get back to that text is to decrypt it with your private. But it is also the case that if you encrypt (or more properly, sign) a message with your private key I can retrieve that message by decrypting (verifying) it with your public key.

The second one is what we're discussing here. If wikileaks tweeted a message encrypted with their private key that said "Assange Lives" and we decrypted it with their public key we would know that the person controlling the Twitter account has the original private key and thus is likely real (assuming they intend to protect their keys even under duress which seems increasingly likely as more time goes by without them signing something).

cant they take his private key and use it too?

Potentially, but there may be some hurdles they'd have to get through first. Personally, I think that the longer it is until there's concrete confirmation of his safety, the less valuable pgp signed evidence becomes.

Yes, if they could get their hands on it. So you have to protect your key both physically (hide it) and digitally (encrypt the key itself so they need your password to use it, if they do find it).

what stops them torturing assange to get it digitally (lets assume the physical bit was compromised day 1 he got captured)

Nothing stops them from trying aside from morality (haha) only his will stops them from being successful.

so basically this whole PGP think is bs. if assange has been taken, theyll have his digital key too? sad times. hope im wrong. have 0 understanding of how it works really.

Not sure who downvoted you, you are spot on. I was thinking of conventional cryptography, not PGP.

For the ignorant, like myself: http://www.pgpi.org/doc/pgpintro/

No they aren't. See digital signatures on the page you linked to.

Well shit, I'm getting educated as fuck in this thread. So the PGP could have been used to create a digital signature that let us, the public, know that we are dealing with the real-deal, legit Wikileaks folks? That only reinforces my opinion that we should operate under the assumption that they are compromised.

God help Julian.

You can also use it as a sort of crc verification that the plaintext is from the intended author.

Okay so what the fuck do we do. Ideas.

Honestly, I don't know. Raid the Ecuadorian embassy where he is supposed to be?

Could be infiltrators among the crowd.

Wouldn't the CIA or whoever be able to generate a PGP key?

A PGP key, yes. The wikiLeaks specific private key? Unlikely.

Three things are missing from the summary..

An airport in London (not Heathrow?) was evacuated due to multiple people coughing all of a sudden the same day armed officers were reported at the embassy. It was shortly reopened after. There were local press releases and then there weren't..

FBI Anon posted right around the time of the Wikileaks hash tweet.. I do not have a screenshot, but it was something to the effect of "This is horrible! US Gov't has simultaneously captured Jullian Assange and 14 other Wikileaks staff. He is most likely dead or being tortured right now. Wikileaks is compromised. Everything you read from them after this point will be filtered or changed. I am most likely a dead man."

Also, the next morning, (a Friday.. don't remember what day) the Internet was more screwed up than ever for the US. They said it was a dyn-dns server failure.. but I think it was more of a state-controlled propaganda system that seemed to send old copies of social media to people in order to prevent dissemination of information. For example, Drudge report didn't update for me from 8am until after 2pm.. That never happens.

That's basically what I remember.. I'm wishing I would've grabbed screenshots. Maybe others can back me up or correct me if they remember otherwise.

If FBI Anon was right and they had actually captured 14 of the Wikileaks staff, wouldn't there be tons of people who could verify that they were missing? These people were probably cautious as fuck and must have had people around them to go public if they were ever to get disappeared. But I agree, it seems really sketchy and the canary does look dead.

Thousands of people go missing every day. I'm sure if you worked for wikileaks you kept it a secret to protect your friends and family

Yep, ma and pa probably reported Billy/Jane/John went missing but don't know anything further. Good luck tying a missing person's report to a specific WL user as they are likely impossible to ID..

I've said it before and I'll say it again, if they wanted to remove Assange with no fuss there are other airports that could be used. No need for a distraction, no need for the press to know anything.

The whole plane thing taking off from City Airport is not credible. If there was proof it took off from one of the other airports I'd be more inclined to believe it.

They don't want discretion they want us to feel like they are in control and make us feel insignificant.

London City Airport is small and discrete. Not the same as Heathrow which is technically outside of London. London City Airport is completely plausible to anyone who's been there.

Not compared to where I'm thinking of.

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The airport I'm thinking of is used all the time by intelligence organisations

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What is this?

Any luck finding the FBI anon 'horrible' comment?

I remember seeing this around the same time: www.theindychannel.com/news/local-news/2-killed-in-fiery-crash-near-downtown-indy

It specifically mentions a FBI member in the Tesla (yay, autopilot!) crash, and any other sources that came after it conveniently left out the details of who the crash involved.

For example: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UrT5MA_iTXs

Yeah was it a tweet or what? Only FBIanon stuff I can find is his 2 AMA threads on pastebin

I used to live near London City Airport. It's tiny, only used for private jets/business planes/gov. Its near the famous Victoria Docks in east London. This area would be very easy to move in and out undetected

I think that we should start a memorial movement for Julian Assange. Assume that he's been murdered and call them out on it!

I really like this. It would be great if people in London would help with the movement, and build a memorial outside the embassy.

i pass once per week, i could always drop a bouquet out front.

Sure. Start one of those memorial things where people pile up a ton of candles, flowers, stuffed animals, and notes in front of the building. If I lived there I'd be staging sit-ins. Get the media involved.

Start a gofundme and I'll donate to it!

May as well, be interesting to see what happens.

Yes

If we collectively agree to pretend that we have sufficient evidence, we can bluff and call them out. Keep hammering them until something viable comes out. Either an admission of capture, death, or proof of life.

good idea, shame them to release him, or shame them for the murder.

either way, worth doing, drop an additional wreath off at the BBC too, with a 'TY BBC' addendum as well Assanges name on it..

reinforcements from r/the_donald have arrived

Time for autism to start digging.

powers and principalities

Half tempted to go the Embassy and just ask if i can see him... isnt far away tbh

Do it! We need to know!

do it! Get an inconspicuous body cam and get their reactions on tape. Post that shit for the world to see

No matter if OP is right or not - keep digging. Always ask questions.

I am not suggesting that you do not dig. I am suggesting that wikileaks is moderated, possibly by the opposition.

In the recent interview, Assange specifically said he thinks the most damaging emails in the leaks are the ones about Hillary being funded by Qatar and Saudi, having the same funders of terrorism fund her.

We've seen that in the Podesta dumps, so they werent holding back what were in his words the most damaging stuff.

The other stuff in your post are suspicious for sure, but I'm not convinced Wikileaks is compromised.

Probaby just different staffs managing Wikileaks now.

Yes, he did say that. That doesn't prove anything. For starters, he had the leaks before they were leaks, and could have formulated that opinion before we even saw the leaks. Furthermore, the leaks incriminating Hillary were released almost immediately, and well before Assange's disappearance. None of the dialogue leads me to believe that the interview was recent.

What i meant is, even if Julian is dead (which I doubt), Wikileaks isnt compromised, because they still released the "most damaging" email.

It would be counterintuitive for the CIA (or whoever) to cease control of Wikileaks but still let the worst emails leak out.

They probably decided that silent control over WL worth more then Hillary's campaign.

This was my theory. Toss her to the wolves, and preserve self.

The other guy makes the point that Assange said that the Hillary corruption was the meat and potatoes. So regardless of what time it was, if they were suppressing emails, it wouldn't be to protect themselves because there was nothing more damning than the Hillary bombshells. I think though, that Assange may not have made the pizza gate connections.

Aha, I see. That is a good point. He just may have not made the pizza gate connections, as they weren't low hanging fruit. Hidden in code, as to where the Hillary corruption was blatant, in-your-face type evidence.

What if those aren't the most damaging pieces of information though?

They were the worst in Assange's eyes. It's possible he missed something bigger but I think the establishment would try to block that bit of information too to protect Hillary.

But we received that information, which leads me to believe Wikileaks likely isnt compromised.

And if even the FBI has internal conflicts about this whole election and rebelled against Comey, quite sure the CIA would also rebel against their boss if something like a huge underground pedo ring was being covered up.

The people working in the CIA are also fellow Americans.

Just my two cents. It just seems unlikely to me, but possible nonetheless. Who knows.

Maybe there's a piece to a puzzle that is not clear to us but would be clear to someone else? Dump it all on Hillary and let the idea that that was the worst live on.

I doubt that your average CIA worker is aware of the big picture. Imagine a massive pitch black hangar where building is being constructed. You are given a board, couple nails and hammer. Your job is to nail that in place but you can only see the wall you are working, everything else is hidden in the dark. In fact, you don't even know if it's floor, wall, or roof you're nailing the board on. Divide and rule.

I added couple cents more but yeah, who knows. Couldn't agree more with that.

And if even the FBI has internal conflicts about this whole election and rebelled against Comey, quite sure the CIA would also rebel against their boss if something like a huge underground pedo ring was being covered up.

People said the same thing about Catholic priests systematically raping kids and covering it up.

How do you explain the Finders and Franklin cases?

Im reading all of this in horror while on the can..lost in trying to latch on to the endless possibilities being discussed my legs have gone numb and now i am stuck on the shitter...please, someone send complyin ted to rescue me

MSM on Nov 7 reported that Assange is to be interviewed on Monday, Nov 14 at the Embassy by an Ecuadorian prosecutor, as well as a Swedish assistant prosecutor, Chief Prosecutor Ingrid Isgren, and a Swedish police investigator (possibly Cecilia Redell who was scheduled for the original interview).

That date has apparently already been bumped once. It was originally scheduled for October 17, the day after the three hashes were posted.

Two years ago, Sven Grundberg tweeted Ingrid Isgren from Sweden's prosecutors' office says conducting interviews with Assange in London is impossible. He needs to come to Sweden. Not sure what has changed.

This recent article indicates that in addition to the Swedish charges, a US criminal investigation against Assange "could" be ongoing.

Did that interview happen or was it "postponed" again?

Isgren showed up on the 14th, interview was set to take a couple days to all week. More...

There is a sub that was made to directly address Julian's absence and the weirdness of wikileaks since they dropped the precomits. I forget what it was called, but I am sure someone will come through with it.

r/WhereIsAssange

There it is! Thanks

This sub has recently been allegedly compromised according to assange.net, scam.com, and some Chan4 vets. See: https://www.scam.com/showthread.php?714524-Scam-Alert!-Reddit-Censoring-Once-Again-This-Time-Wikileaks-amp-WhereIsAssange-sub-reddits

Yep totally hosed.

His recent interview with John Pilger was questioned because the two never appear in the same frame together.

Yes, and nothing in the dialogue, on Assange's part would indicate that his portion was recorded recently.

Admittedly, I didn't read everything, but I'll agree we aren't anywhere close to out of the woods yet based simply on the idea that if he hasn't been able to wander over to the window and curtsy since losing his Internet.

To be fair, I'd be concerned about snipers if I were him

If they are willing to snipe him in front of the world, we have worse things to worry about.

The UMET has serious flaws in it.

EDIT - I made a separate thread

https://www.reddit.com/r/conspiracy/comments/5ckaax/the_umet_phonein_talk_with_julian_assange_in/

Original comment:

It sounded like a pre-recording that they spliced up, and that they asked for the questions before (and there are only 2 or 3 of them towards the end). Don't rely on the stupid transcript that started getting posted. It doesn't capture the nature of this bizarre appearance.

There are times where he talks over the panel and just keeps going without skipping a beat.

Some of his stopping points seem very abrupt, and a few times, mid sentence, like they paused the recording.

Towards the end, there are not expected pauses where the questions are translated to him. I don't think he's fluent in Spanish. How would he know what they are asking? (easy, they got the questions beforehand and edited together a recording)

It's an extremely scratchy recording. Good if you're covering something.

WL's Twitter never tweeted it (maybe they did like 1 week later, I forget). I found that suspicious, because they know we were desperate for proof of life at that point. Why wouldn't they say "finally, here is proof of JA". It seems like they were uncertain if the UMET would work.

There are some lines in the appearance that also appear in other JA videos on YouTube and Vimeo. It's possible they cut from these older videos, there are hundreds of unique ones out there to choose from. Since some of his comments indicate recency, it's possible they cut from the full John Pilger interview, which was never aired in full on RT.

After they posted it, a whole bunch of new YT accounts started posting a condensed 30 minute version of the video. The original is about an hour and 20 minutes of JA talking. Listen to the original, not the 30 minute versions, if you want to see what I mean.

I think he's been dead since that deadman trigger and the twitter / storefront account was taken over....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hl4NlA97GeQ

I'd have to guess those are the guys related to the jacking of wikileaks twitter account and some mod powers (admin?) on both /r/conspiracy and /r/wikileaks and other spots on reddit.

Their website says this... which I find kind of hard to believe. Julian Assange WikiLeaks via Twitter "Hilarious WikiLeaks rap gets it right. Is comedy the only honest commentary?"

Interesting video. I turned it off after first click then went back and watched it all.

We still don't have definitive proof of life for Assange, meaning a live video/ live sighting. The only proof of life was a pre-recorded interview with John Pilger. I've tweeted Pilger asking for the date of the interview and got no response. Has anyone been able to date the interview?

For all I am concerned, until Pilger pipes up, he is compromised, as well.

I agree that Pilger is comprimised. Why won't he tell us the date/location of the interview? I understand why the MSM is covering this up (bc Kerry & Clinton are implicated), but the alternative media is covering it up as well. I've tweeted Infowars, WND, Real Strategy, Drudge, & Breitbart to name a few and none will touch the strange facts in the case. I think Trump is keeping it quiet? At first I thought this bc Assange being alive added validity to the wikileaks. But now that Trump won the election, what could possibly be the reason to cover up the facts that Assange is missing?

They are clearly covering up for something bigger. Even the mods are bluepilling hard; they're refusing to remove the sticky from the fake AMA.

Pilger is such an upstanding guy though. I find that hard to believe.

pick a US MSM personality, all of them are corrupt and on somebodys payroll and/or in a photo archive.

Have you read his books? When I was young this guy opened my eyes to the extent of the "conspiracy" that is the world economic system. New Rulers of the World. I admit I haven't followed his work lately, but I know he bucked the MSM and told it like he saw it back in the day. I trust the guy.

Edit: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xUW5-LlLQ1Q

Edit2: https://youtu.be/kHNe8oOQAeg?t=6m49s

I was a big fan of his in my early 20's, and watched several of his documentaries, one in particular that sticks out was one on venezuela and was very pro socialism (I did, and still do identify myself as a socialist), but now Venezuela has turned into a shit show, and it made me second guess Pilger. I haven't kept up like I used to, but seeing him on RT didn't help at all. Not that RT is lying, but it's just inherently propaganda.

inherently propaganda.

As opposed to Western MSM?

Venezuela's situation is in part the result of American and IMF interference.

I claim ignorance. Can you elaborate?

I am pro-Trump, but something is off here. It's almost as if someone high up (Trump?) is orchestrating a coverup of the facts that show Assange missing & wikileaks comprimised. I can't figure why... ideas?

Agreed. The global elites don't want their pedo ring, Satanism and whatever else they're doing to be discovered. Assange thought different and probably died trying to give the world the truth.

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It's his opinion? So anyone having a racist opinion is invalidated or a "troll"? Come on.

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A jew did have huge Influence over the election, his name is George Soros.

Jesus.

Great work OP, this needs exposure. All the of the events that surrounded Julian, and then the apparent takeover of /r/Wikileaks, followed by their unverified AMA, are making this smell worse and worse.

I got the random thought that Pamela could have been used as some sort of prelude by TPTB and quickly discovered that she had visited him there before, so imo that takes away some of the suspicion. Though the timing is still weird AF.

Wiki leaks twitter compromised but .org is functional. Keep in mind it's been a short time frame since it all went down. Technology continues to move faster than the power structure. If it's not wikileaks.org it will be some other group that publishes. We will prevail.

They need to make a press release with their PGP signature on the .org.

Sarah Harrison, Wikileaks journalist, fielded questions on 11/15/16 at Dublin InfoSec. No apparrent mention made of Assange's status.

http://www.independent.ie/infosec2016/we-werent-out-to-get-hillary-insists-wikileaks-journalist-after-election-defeat-35219484.html

The AMA was a fake. Look at my history, and look at the submission I made called "Has wikileaks been compromised?"

She couldn't even post a selfie to imgur. Sarah has been nabbed, too.

How do you figure? According to the article, she showed up in person at the InfoSec conference in Dublin earlier today, after the AMA. And there's a pic of her presumably from the appearance.

Just got banned from T_D and I'm not the only one who got a ban. The subjects of the pizza-debacle and JA both seem very touchy.

Let me just say that a solid verification is warranted imho.

In a very trying time, T_D is trying to shore up its image to shore up Trump's by proxy.

There's just a more appropriate place for it now is all

By stickying threads about hurling immigrants over walls via trebuchet ;); call me a sceptic. I'll leave it at that. Ha.

T_D is compromised as well. We are not happy about our Wikileaks posts disappearing nor the useless fluff on the front page.

I think many knew WikiLeaks became compromised around mid-october after requesting pgp keys and being blocked on twitter etc.

We've asked in demand for the key and been ignored. It is sad that we couldnt figure out the deadmans switch if those tweets were it.

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What is this?

We are being dense. Something is obviously up. If this were a spy movie, we would be the idiot spies deliberating over obvious clues.

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None. The wikileaks Twitter actually had a poll to determine what people wanted to see for proof of life. Nothing was ever said, after the poll. This is more than just Assange. I am saying that ALL of wikileaks is compromised.

ALL of wikileaks is compromised.

yet they published absolute criminal emails.

what is once published and seen cannot be unpublished and seen.

there are archives on the web of the emails, likely many, some hobby and legal, some govts.

But none of that compares to what they are sitting on

Can we have this stickied, please, mods?

Idk, you could just be spreading misinformation the undermine our confidence in wikileaks

I would really like to see the fall of TPTB. I want to see all of the leaks and stop the machine. Especially since it looks like the machine may be involved in hurting children.

Pgp signed message is a very easy way to put this all to rest...but they haven't done it...

cryptome.org

Am I missing something?

What about them?

Someone attempted to change Cryptome's PGP key.

Wow good work. I heard all these rumors as they came out but wasnt fully aware of the lack of the pgp signature.

The change of twitter is easy to understand: Julian isn't tweeting anymore, so another in the organisation is tweeting instead. New person, new style.

The change in editing quality is easy to understand: Julian isn't editing anymore, so others are picking up the slack.

I feel the wikileaks infrastructure is very robust against takeover by a foreign agent, with their anonymous submissions, distributed network and secret operators. Assange is effectively gone and they continue operating.

As soon as he gave his positive opinion on Bush and Kissinger, I wrote Steve Pieczenik off as controlled opposition.

The 7th Floor Group is real. That's where the digging needs to happen.

I want to add the fact that Obama took dns control out of the US authority On October 1st. DNS is what directs you to a website based on the name you type. I just wanted to add it into the Wikileaks funny business. DNS translates name you type in address bar to specific server. here's a link. http://dailycaller.com/2016/09/24/obama-admin-wants-to-surrender-us-control-over-internet-to-global-bureaucracy/

Or twitter modified the hashes?

Twitter is definitely buyable. I wonder who would be able to make such a deal?

Unreddit didn't work for me either. Use ceddit instead

What

The hashes don't check because the files are still encrypted, duh!

OH SHIT HERE COME DAT [EXTRAORDINARY RENDITION AND TORTURE] WHADDUP????

What is the point if this comment? I am not sure what you are trying to say.

"Oh, I'm sorry: I thought this was America!" - Randy Marsh, fictional character, 'South Park,' drunken rant

This says Wikileaks has been hijacked by the CIA and is currently a venus fly trap of sorts for any whisleblowers. They look like there is going to be many more accidents soon.

http://imgur.com/N3bBSHd

Yup!

Hashes only matter for unencrypted files. It proves the unencrypted file was the one you intended to release. Hash for encrypted file is the same as a hash collision for a gibberish file.

Why haven't Kerry or Obama announced anything this was one of their main goals correct? It would be fair to say that with the recent painting of Wikileaks as a Russian propaganda outlet by the main stream media they would portray this as a major victory on their part. Something more is in play here.

at 3:47 assange stands on the balcony of the embassy, anyone knows if this is recent footage?

What about it? None of the footage of Assange is new.

New Anonymous Video (December 26th, 2016) Confirms our theories guys https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_n6MAUZuDRU

OP is trying WAY too hard to make us believe what he wants us to believe. I call bullshit.

I'm trying to open a dialogue based on facts. If an orange is an orange, don't call it a banana.

Remember when they were announcing for weeks that they'd publish bombshell revelations that would surely put Hillary into jail?

Never happened.

They are a Russia psy-ops operation

Wikileaks wasn't announcing it, though. It was Alex Jones.

And Alex Jones is free from Russian misinformation?

What does Russia, or Alex Jones have to do with any of this? Quit watching TV; it is time for critical thinking.

Ok let's do some critical thinking.

For quite some time, WL was dominated by DNC leaks. Absolutely nothing on the RNC or Trump. Sure, they say they only publish what you have (although JA did say they have stuff on Trump but didn't release it because it wasn't as damaging as public comments) but you believe that only because it's what they've said, and up until now, you've had no reason not to trust them.

Russia and Putin were vocal Trump supporters and called on full cooperation with the US as soon as he was elected. Aka, Russia wanted Trump to win and would benefit from leaks that hurt the DNC and Hillary.

A month ago, the leaks were nearing their end and Russia decided it was time to end their friendship with WL and take JA out. Or Russia snuffed out that their new buddy actually had shit on them and was planning on releasing it.

Also I remember about a year ago (could be wrong?) JA said he had massive stuff on Putin but it never came out.

Right now I'd say there's about as much connecting this back to Russia as there is to Kerry or the US.

Interesting perspective. If a jet that had ties to a Russian rendition operation, were to have sped off with Putin, in tail, then I would travel further down that rabbit hole.

All of the tangible evidence leans towards a US based operation to snuff wikileaks.

Russia is being pretty transparent about their opinions. From the DMC and podesta leaks, we know that the secret government of the US likes to keep a private vs public opinion.

I'm leaning towards discounting the airport theory because there's literally no reason why they'd use LCA when there's a military airport closer. Overall more convenient to not use public transportation hubs.

Also, let's be careful here with saying the Russia government is transparent. Over here in the States we get a very limited look into their operations. I'm sure they have plenty of behind the scenes corruption, some of which probably goes well beyond that of the DNC.

Any study of Russian politics includes a look at its top to bottom corruption.

The thing Russia does not have is the perverse integration between corporation and state. I am sure they are filled with all sorts of scandal, but look at where we are today in the US. We literally have less media outlets than post Soviet Russia. Our propaganda machine is much more refined, and much more funded.

Primarily because several of Russia's biggest energy and media companies are, at least partially, state owned

The thing Russia does not have is the perverse integration between corporation and state.

http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/frontline/film/putins-way/

Russia has been supporting Trump and Assange vocally and Russian hackers were responsible for the Hillary Clinton leaks. Alex Jones is a leading Trump supporting conspiracy theorist who may very well be getting fed information from clandestine sources; we both agree that Alex Jones is not a reliable source of information, right? Clinton even mentioned Russians influencing anti-black conservative media in the debates.

The parent of this thread brought up Alex Jones..

I read that out of context. Alex Jones was making the hype train, and threats, no Assange. Alex Jones is controlled opposition. He has credibility as a man who breaks down in tears, and over sensationalizes things to make you look like a nut to investigate "conspiracy theories."

Russian hackers were responsible for the email leaks? According to who? That is speculation based off of propaganda.

Alex Jones has NO credibility outside of conspiracists. It's not real news.

Plenty of articles about Russian influence

http://www.wsj.com/articles/russia-aims-to-disrupt-other-western-elections-u-s-officials-say-1478372323

Also, I'm Canadian so I really don't have any stake or allegiance to the American political system; however, Canadian media HAS covered Russian online influence.

Canadian corporate media is the same as all globalist corporate media.

Okay sure Canadian media is all controlled by the corporate elite. Whatever, crank. CBC is a public company.

publish bombshell revelations

read the emails, even just by doing keyword searches and reading random ones, the emails and attachments are legal and political dynamite.

just one example, Obamas CIA/State people using Gmail for sending classified email content to Washington...

mindblowingly insecure and incompetent.

What can we do to help?

Don't spread their propaganda. Call them out where you find them.

I would really like to see the fall of TPTB. I want to see all of the leaks and stop the machine. Especially since it looks like the machine may be involved in hurting children.

Pgp signed message is a very easy way to put this all to rest...but they haven't done it...

Do it! We need to know!

In the recent interview, Assange specifically said he thinks the most damaging emails in the leaks are the ones about Hillary being funded by Qatar and Saudi, having the same funders of terrorism fund her.

We've seen that in the Podesta dumps, so they werent holding back what were in his words the most damaging stuff.

The other stuff in your post are suspicious for sure, but I'm not convinced Wikileaks is compromised.

Probaby just different staffs managing Wikileaks now.

do it! Get an inconspicuous body cam and get their reactions on tape. Post that shit for the world to see

cant they take his private key and use it too?

Thousands of people go missing every day. I'm sure if you worked for wikileaks you kept it a secret to protect your friends and family

Maybe there's a piece to a puzzle that is not clear to us but would be clear to someone else? Dump it all on Hillary and let the idea that that was the worst live on.

I doubt that your average CIA worker is aware of the big picture. Imagine a massive pitch black hangar where building is being constructed. You are given a board, couple nails and hammer. Your job is to nail that in place but you can only see the wall you are working, everything else is hidden in the dark. In fact, you don't even know if it's floor, wall, or roof you're nailing the board on. Divide and rule.

I added couple cents more but yeah, who knows. Couldn't agree more with that.

And if even the FBI has internal conflicts about this whole election and rebelled against Comey, quite sure the CIA would also rebel against their boss if something like a huge underground pedo ring was being covered up.

People said the same thing about Catholic priests systematically raping kids and covering it up.

How do you explain the Finders and Franklin cases?