Shouldn't people be protesting Hillary stealing nomination from Bernie essentially handing Trump victory? I would have voted for Bernie instead of Trump.
The majority of those supporting Sanders already appeared to know it as it was happening. What no one wants to admit is that we're cowards. We can downvote and argue and post, but we can't fight something bigger than we are. The Clinton apparatus was much bigger than those of us who supported Sanders and even as we watched the robbery take place, even as we read the emails that confirmed how it took place, we did nothing and I don't anticipate that changing. Everyone is too comfortable to really rock the boat.
There were a lot of legal attempts to fight the nomination. We were told to grow up and stop acting like children, we were told we were crazy conspiracy nuts, etc. But we used legal and peaceful avenues of protest. The deck was stacked against us. And now those same people who told us to grow up and act like children are out destroying property.
We did fight something larger than we are, and we did win. Sorry you don't see it that way but we just forced the illuminati to go with their backup choice instead of installing a mass murderer into the white house. "But he's a Nazi who will kill all us gay people". Um No he's not. There's no evidence. "But he's xenophobic". No he's not, but a vast majority of people in america do not want a flood of syrians to come into america because of all the raping they've been doing in germany. Sorry but you're arguments are invalid you low information ppl. But here I'll help you guys out anyway:
There was coup-d'etat that happend on 9/11 with the neocons because of starting the COG; it's been continued by Obama as an illegal shadow government: Hillary and BIll are a part of it and always were. Trump is not a part of it: yet. Right now they are grooming him...we know this because of the constant surrounding by Jesuits.
Now, if you want to stop whining about election fraud, you can get with the program, and realize that we just won a counter-coup by inhibiting Hillary, whom we've seen has totally controlled the media[1][2][3][4][5], provoked conflict, ran black lives matter as a hegelian divide-and-rule ploy, and is part of the 7th floor group along with Obama. So really, it wasn't so much Trump won, but it was that OBAMA LOST. He's a fucking criminal schmuck of a loser spy--Barry Soetoro--and we showed him his foolcraft failed, and that we can force their hand. Even if they still rule, at least we don't get a criminal.
And we made Huma Abedin cry, but really their whole shadow government was brought down by two balls and a cain, her weiner of a husband whose fetish for underage teens spurred us by FBI investigation to realize that she was s SGE, a spy, revealing deep conflicts of interest in the campaign, blurring the lines between what is ethical and what is illegal and what is sensible and what is wholly unacceptable to the american public.
That with all Obama's mind-control, with all his attacks on conspiracy theorists, with all his contortions of information and history, that he cannot defeat a ragtag bunch of contrarian patriots that want the next person male or female or gay or trans or whatever to overturn the Continuity of Government state of emergency by undoing Obama's executive orders taking about possible threats from space (read it: no really, read it)
Daaaaaamn, that's some rough-ass truth you just delivered.
Yo Sanders supporters, man/woman up! Y'all got played. It has happened to the best of us, and pretty much everyone on this sub. Learn from your mistakes, grow a set, and take on the ultimate responsibility of ruling yourself. Fuck political rulers, be the change you wish to see in the world.
Jesus Christ did in fact grow up. I just started reading the Bible and I'm really rooting for him! I got to the point where he's talking with all of his friends at a nice dinner.
I haven't seen a parrot that insults people in the stories yet, which part is that in?
I can tell it's going to end really well, all peaceful and he will fix the world!
Edit: It's very ironic that reddit does not appreciate sarcasm.
I didn't vote but I was hoping for a trump win. People jump all over him for things he has said, many of which, imo were taken out of context/ blown out of proportion. Meanwhile there is very serious evidence that Hillary is a legitimately terrible person and no one mentions it.
People are scared and upset on what happened. They fully expected to win or at least a participation trophy. What happen is they lost almost completey. DNC stole the election form Bernie,Some blue states went red, Congress is red, Executive is red and now the judicial looks like it could be red to. Most people I have talked to that protested where puppets of people. They didn't know who Donna Brazile is or why Debbie Wasserman steped down. I feel pity for those poor people protesting in ignorance and have tried to red pill them, but it is always Russia hackers this, Trump once farted in a chruch that.
You should expose that, film somehow when questioning those people and their reasons for protesting. Expose how politically misinformed they are yet they still take to the streets as if they are politically righteous and understand the breadth of the situation. I actually have to admit that's the worst part of all in my eyes, they can be mobilized and let out the rage, but they're too dumb to direct it where it's deserved.
That is a good idea. This is pretty funning most of them that protested are actors, film writers or help with production, so most of them will be okay with being on camera.
Unfortunately the masses are asses and just believe MSM as the actual truth. They still believe the government will look after and take care of them. YIKES!
Really? Are you out protesting Iran contra right now? or how about the Mongol invasion?
Nope? Me neither since its all in the past and all the protest in the world can't change that. Protest the Dem leadership that currently stand as 'leaders'. make sure that sanders takes control of the party and make sure he gets the support to reform the Dems in time for the mid terms 2 years from now.
Trump gutted the right wing establishment to get where he is. Sanders needs grass roots support to gut the left.
At this point I'm convinced the protests are just another dog-and-pony show brought to us by the mainstream media, bringer of lies and deceit.
They are funded by people who want to polarize and divide us, then push forth their particular brand of toxic progressivism (which is a shame because I consider myself a progressive a very different kind).
There are of course legitimate, brainwashed protestors among the staged ones... but right now the media/Dems are doing their best to deflect from their own misgivings. What they're projecting are their own failings, rather than the people's will and sentiment.
I've heard all manner of excuses for Trump's win. My absolute favorite is when I brought up black voter turnout... "Why is it that less blacks went out to vote, and why did more of them vote for Republicans and third parties this election cycle?" They don't want to admit that their candidate failed to engage people. I got all sorts of excuses... voter ID laws, gerrymandering(how does that affect turnout?), minorities are scared to vote(?) etc... It's of course the racist whites' fault that Trump got in. For fuck's sake, racist white people? I was literally just told that you shouldn't expect black people to express their agency, you can't expect them to go out and vote; in other words, they're just black people and you should know better than to think they should be responsible for anything. But the Trump voters are the racist ones.
Oh, my fucking sides.
We all told them in the spring... Bernie wins against Trump. Hillary doesn't. Every poll showed it and every rally echoed the sentiment. And what the fuck do they do about it? They steal the nomination from him, overlooking democratic principles to get her in. DNC email leaks show it in great detail. The emails are indefensible and even if they weren't, the organization's actions prove the shady dealings around Clinton. The DNC head at the time stepped down. The one before her, who recommended her for the position, was Clinton's running mate. The one after her was caught leaking debate and town-hall questions to Clinton and got her ass fired from CNN. But they ignored it all and voted for the dirty cunt anyway.
At the end of the day, yes, that is the discussion we should be having. I would have voted for Bernie instead of Trump, myself. But we're not going to have that discussion - the regressive cultists that fervently supported Hillary have done too much to apologize for, and they know it. Despite knowing they were wrong, they have to keep pressing forward because it's too hard to turn around and mend all the things they broke. It's so much easier to double down and blame everyone else instead of pointing the finger in a mirror.
Bernie sanders voted with Hillary Clinton not just some of the time, not just most of the time but 93% of the time.
More than 9 times out of 10 - he's with her.
He was good at articulating problems - but his solutions have proven throughout history to be faulty. He misleadingly labeled goodies as "free" when in reality everyone would be giving even more money than they already do to a bloated inefficient intrusive corrupted government.
If you don't want to pay taxes you are free to go live somewhere else. Saying they take taxes without your consent is the same as saying they illegally kidnap you when you break the law. Taxes were democratically approved by the people. You consent to the law by living here. If you don't like it then work to change the law or get the fuck out.
God you are a statist too? A coincidence theorist and a statist, lurking in conspiracy to throw shade at anyone who questions the official narrative on anything from government to 9/11. You're a scab, whether you know it or not.
God you are a statist too? A coincidence theorist and a statist, lurking in conspiracy to throw shade at anyone who questions the official narrative on anything from government to 9/11. You're a scab, whether you know it or not.
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85 SixVISix 2016-11-13
The majority of those supporting Sanders already appeared to know it as it was happening. What no one wants to admit is that we're cowards. We can downvote and argue and post, but we can't fight something bigger than we are. The Clinton apparatus was much bigger than those of us who supported Sanders and even as we watched the robbery take place, even as we read the emails that confirmed how it took place, we did nothing and I don't anticipate that changing. Everyone is too comfortable to really rock the boat.
23 Poliopals 2016-11-13
Also didnt have soros funding like the hillary people do
10 Machete_dont_tweet 2016-11-13
There were a lot of legal attempts to fight the nomination. We were told to grow up and stop acting like children, we were told we were crazy conspiracy nuts, etc. But we used legal and peaceful avenues of protest. The deck was stacked against us. And now those same people who told us to grow up and act like children are out destroying property.
3 onetimerone 2016-11-13
You've been told many times before, messiahs point you to the door no one has the guts to leave the temple.
3 Balthanos 2016-11-13
Infiltrate the riots/protests with your own signs and try to change their message to the theft of the nomination. I dare you.
2 911bodysnatchers322 2016-11-13
um: "Yes We Can" (<thank you satan>)
We did fight something larger than we are, and we did win. Sorry you don't see it that way but we just forced the illuminati to go with their backup choice instead of installing a mass murderer into the white house. "But he's a Nazi who will kill all us gay people". Um No he's not. There's no evidence. "But he's xenophobic". No he's not, but a vast majority of people in america do not want a flood of syrians to come into america because of all the raping they've been doing in germany. Sorry but you're arguments are invalid you low information ppl. But here I'll help you guys out anyway:
There was coup-d'etat that happend on 9/11 with the neocons because of starting the COG; it's been continued by Obama as an illegal shadow government: Hillary and BIll are a part of it and always were. Trump is not a part of it: yet. Right now they are grooming him...we know this because of the constant surrounding by Jesuits.
Now, if you want to stop whining about election fraud, you can get with the program, and realize that we just won a counter-coup by inhibiting Hillary, whom we've seen has totally controlled the media[1][2][3][4][5], provoked conflict, ran black lives matter as a hegelian divide-and-rule ploy, and is part of the 7th floor group along with Obama. So really, it wasn't so much Trump won, but it was that OBAMA LOST. He's a fucking criminal schmuck of a loser spy--Barry Soetoro--and we showed him his foolcraft failed, and that we can force their hand. Even if they still rule, at least we don't get a criminal.
And we made Huma Abedin cry, but really their whole shadow government was brought down by two balls and a cain, her weiner of a husband whose fetish for underage teens spurred us by FBI investigation to realize that she was s SGE, a spy, revealing deep conflicts of interest in the campaign, blurring the lines between what is ethical and what is illegal and what is sensible and what is wholly unacceptable to the american public.
That with all Obama's mind-control, with all his attacks on conspiracy theorists, with all his contortions of information and history, that he cannot defeat a ragtag bunch of contrarian patriots that want the next person male or female or gay or trans or whatever to overturn the Continuity of Government state of emergency by undoing Obama's executive orders taking about possible threats from space (read it: no really, read it)
1 Buddha_Clause 2016-11-13
Can't forget the "Bernie Bros" dismissal of his appeal.
-7 nisaaru 2016-11-13
You mean beta people voted for a beta personality who was the designated fall guy?:-)
14 BloodWillow 2016-11-13
Daaaaaamn, that's some rough-ass truth you just delivered.
Yo Sanders supporters, man/woman up! Y'all got played. It has happened to the best of us, and pretty much everyone on this sub. Learn from your mistakes, grow a set, and take on the ultimate responsibility of ruling yourself. Fuck political rulers, be the change you wish to see in the world.
1 13lacula 2016-11-13
I couldn't vote when Ron Paul was done in.
In the Berenstein universe the 2000 presidential election was Ron Paul vs Bernard Sanders
1 unclezipper 2016-11-13
Ow, my feewings.
-3 AnotherComrade 2016-11-13
Jesus Christ, grow up. You people just parrot the same tired insult over and over.
-1 Ishouldnt_haveposted 2016-11-13
Jesus Christ did in fact grow up. I just started reading the Bible and I'm really rooting for him! I got to the point where he's talking with all of his friends at a nice dinner.
I haven't seen a parrot that insults people in the stories yet, which part is that in?
I can tell it's going to end really well, all peaceful and he will fix the world!
Edit: It's very ironic that reddit does not appreciate sarcasm.
34 sheasie 2016-11-13
everyone would have.
13 m4k4v3l1Th3d0n 2016-11-13
I wouldn't have.
8 GoldenBobo 2016-11-13
why was this downvoted?
9 legalize-drugs 2016-11-13
Because people misuse downvotes.
2 m4k4v3l1Th3d0n 2016-11-13
Cause people wanted Bernie so they could get "free" stuff.
3 momzthebest 2016-11-13
When there arent enough jobs for everyone, the people without them are gonna need some "free stuff"
-5 jaybee1414 2016-11-13
There aren't any less jobs now than there have been in the past.
3 InsanadyWolf 2016-11-13
Automation is coming and I never hear it being discussed by our politicians.
1 momzthebest 2016-11-13
Nahh. They plan for us to be slaves.
1 jav253 2016-11-13
Well according to agenda 21, and population predictions they plan for most of us to be dead. The handful left will be slaves living in mega cities.
1 Grip_Mod_Parts 2016-11-13
Didn't Trump say "if we use robots we'll build them too"?
1 YouandWhoseArmy 2016-11-13
Like what?
1 fingerbang_fun 2016-11-13
democrats are against importing illegals and denying healthcare to low-income folks.
6 Ishouldnt_haveposted 2016-11-13
I would have.
5 Drupain 2016-11-13
Same here. They gave us two shitty candidates to choose from. It came down to the lesser of two evils. As far as I can tell Bernie is an Angel.
2 wegocreative 2016-11-13
Why did he gut the "Audit the Fed" bill, then?
I don't trust career politicians.
25 IlikePez 2016-11-13
I watched as the dems nomination was pretty much stolen. As a democrat since I could vote it pissed me off. A lot.
I didn't vote for trump because he is bat shit crazy, I voted for trump because he wasn't Hillary.
If the democratic nominee had been Bernie, it would have been a different ballot.
5 ya-boy-apart 2016-11-13
I didn't vote but I was hoping for a trump win. People jump all over him for things he has said, many of which, imo were taken out of context/ blown out of proportion. Meanwhile there is very serious evidence that Hillary is a legitimately terrible person and no one mentions it.
24 IoPA_inOR 2016-11-13
these are the same people who think Nader's 2.9million votes cost Gore the election but give a pass to the ~7mil registered dems who voted for Bush.
3 ya-boy-apart 2016-11-13
Well that wouldn't fit the narrative.
15 Isperia165 2016-11-13
People are scared and upset on what happened. They fully expected to win or at least a participation trophy. What happen is they lost almost completey. DNC stole the election form Bernie,Some blue states went red, Congress is red, Executive is red and now the judicial looks like it could be red to. Most people I have talked to that protested where puppets of people. They didn't know who Donna Brazile is or why Debbie Wasserman steped down. I feel pity for those poor people protesting in ignorance and have tried to red pill them, but it is always Russia hackers this, Trump once farted in a chruch that.
6 gamesoverlosers 2016-11-13
You should expose that, film somehow when questioning those people and their reasons for protesting. Expose how politically misinformed they are yet they still take to the streets as if they are politically righteous and understand the breadth of the situation. I actually have to admit that's the worst part of all in my eyes, they can be mobilized and let out the rage, but they're too dumb to direct it where it's deserved.
2 Isperia165 2016-11-13
That is a good idea. This is pretty funning most of them that protested are actors, film writers or help with production, so most of them will be okay with being on camera.
12 Namesoog 2016-11-13
Unfortunately the masses are asses and just believe MSM as the actual truth. They still believe the government will look after and take care of them. YIKES!
11 Carlos_Dangers_wang 2016-11-13
Yes. It's shameful.
9 StJude501c3 2016-11-13
I think some people want liberals so mad at Trump that they won't try to break up the Democratic party.
But that's probably where it needs to start.
-4 Soddington 2016-11-13
Really? Are you out protesting Iran contra right now? or how about the Mongol invasion?
Nope? Me neither since its all in the past and all the protest in the world can't change that. Protest the Dem leadership that currently stand as 'leaders'. make sure that sanders takes control of the party and make sure he gets the support to reform the Dems in time for the mid terms 2 years from now.
Trump gutted the right wing establishment to get where he is. Sanders needs grass roots support to gut the left.
13 Carlos_Dangers_wang 2016-11-13
I said three words.
6 skeeter1234 2016-11-13
I hadn't thought of it this way. These jackasses will protest a legitimate win by Trump, but wouldn't protest an illegitimate win by Clinton.
Fucking morons.
(Sanders supporter as well. Refused to vote for Clinton.)
0 stevedp86 2016-11-13
Trump has more in common with Sanders.
3 skeeter1234 2016-11-13
lol, shut the fuck up with that bullshit. He's putting in place a standard Republican establishment cabinet.
5 [deleted] 2016-11-13
At this point I'm convinced the protests are just another dog-and-pony show brought to us by the mainstream media, bringer of lies and deceit.
They are funded by people who want to polarize and divide us, then push forth their particular brand of toxic progressivism (which is a shame because I consider myself a progressive a very different kind).
There are of course legitimate, brainwashed protestors among the staged ones... but right now the media/Dems are doing their best to deflect from their own misgivings. What they're projecting are their own failings, rather than the people's will and sentiment.
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3 mahatma_arium_nine 2016-11-13
So long as we're under financial tyranny by central banking cartels, nothing will change for (((the powers that shouldn't be)))
2 godlameroso 2016-11-13
That's not what the media is telling people to do, so no, media is the word of god, and the state is that god.
2 unclezipper 2016-11-13
I've heard all manner of excuses for Trump's win. My absolute favorite is when I brought up black voter turnout... "Why is it that less blacks went out to vote, and why did more of them vote for Republicans and third parties this election cycle?" They don't want to admit that their candidate failed to engage people. I got all sorts of excuses... voter ID laws, gerrymandering(how does that affect turnout?), minorities are scared to vote(?) etc... It's of course the racist whites' fault that Trump got in. For fuck's sake, racist white people? I was literally just told that you shouldn't expect black people to express their agency, you can't expect them to go out and vote; in other words, they're just black people and you should know better than to think they should be responsible for anything. But the Trump voters are the racist ones.
Oh, my fucking sides.
We all told them in the spring... Bernie wins against Trump. Hillary doesn't. Every poll showed it and every rally echoed the sentiment. And what the fuck do they do about it? They steal the nomination from him, overlooking democratic principles to get her in. DNC email leaks show it in great detail. The emails are indefensible and even if they weren't, the organization's actions prove the shady dealings around Clinton. The DNC head at the time stepped down. The one before her, who recommended her for the position, was Clinton's running mate. The one after her was caught leaking debate and town-hall questions to Clinton and got her ass fired from CNN. But they ignored it all and voted for the dirty cunt anyway.
At the end of the day, yes, that is the discussion we should be having. I would have voted for Bernie instead of Trump, myself. But we're not going to have that discussion - the regressive cultists that fervently supported Hillary have done too much to apologize for, and they know it. Despite knowing they were wrong, they have to keep pressing forward because it's too hard to turn around and mend all the things they broke. It's so much easier to double down and blame everyone else instead of pointing the finger in a mirror.
1 TinaTurntR 2016-11-13
Exactly
1 KalashnikovArms 2016-11-13
Why not both?
1 NaoTapar 2016-11-13
Exactly right OP
1 transfire 2016-11-13
You think it would have mattered?
1 mahatma_arium_nine 2016-11-13
Same. #NeverHillary
1 ldav232 2016-11-13
Give me half of your things.
1 danimalplanimal 2016-11-13
Yes, yes they should
1 Llamanog 2016-11-13
Right? Even my conservative republican parents said they probably would have voted for Bernie!
1 lucycohen 2016-11-13
Hillary did Trump a big favor by removing Bernie
1 Brendancs0 2016-11-13
Me to
-3 Ty199 2016-11-13
Average person might not be aware of this and why would they listen to your "conspiracies"
-3 possiblebraindamage 2016-11-13
bernie got that vacation home he always wanted out of the deal, so its not like it was really stolen... sold is more appropriate.
-4 RedditIsISIS 2016-11-13
Bernie would have lost hands down to Trump. Even Obama in 2012 would have lost to Trump.
-5 liftingbruh 2016-11-13
commie bernouts BTFO!
6 20thsieclefox 2016-11-13
As a former Bernie and now trump support, please don't be like this. We need people on our side.
-6 Jeffersonien 2016-11-13
Bernie sanders voted with Hillary Clinton not just some of the time, not just most of the time but 93% of the time.
More than 9 times out of 10 - he's with her.
He was good at articulating problems - but his solutions have proven throughout history to be faulty. He misleadingly labeled goodies as "free" when in reality everyone would be giving even more money than they already do to a bloated inefficient intrusive corrupted government.
6 m4k4v3l1Th3d0n 2016-11-13
Nothing is free, it just means the rest of us have to foot the bill for it. I wish more people understood this.
The government doesn't have money, we have money which they take from us without our consent.
5 DrDougExeter 2016-11-13
If you don't want to pay taxes you are free to go live somewhere else. Saying they take taxes without your consent is the same as saying they illegally kidnap you when you break the law. Taxes were democratically approved by the people. You consent to the law by living here. If you don't like it then work to change the law or get the fuck out.
1 Vitalogy0107 2016-11-13
God you are a statist too? A coincidence theorist and a statist, lurking in conspiracy to throw shade at anyone who questions the official narrative on anything from government to 9/11. You're a scab, whether you know it or not.
-9 showmeurboobsplznthx 2016-11-13
I think they should have this vote be in no confidence and rerun the election. It's insane we are accepting this.
-11 factsnotfeelings 2016-11-13
Bernie was controlled opposition and a shill of the worst kind.
He hired Stephanie Kelton, a proponent of modern monetary theory, as his economic adviser.
Modern Monetary Theory states that taxes are not needed to fund spending but to provide demand for a currency and control inflation.
Bernie Sanders ignored the teachings of MMT (and advice from his adviser) and promoted the low IQ idea of taxing the rich.
Sanders is the worst kind of politician there is and he is the reason why the left has done NOTHING to solve economic inequality or poverty.
3 Ronaldjpierce 2016-11-13
Because reaganomics worked out so great in the past.
1 Brendancs0 2016-11-13
Reganomics is different that spending and tax reduction
1 Ronaldjpierce 2016-11-13
Different than not taxing the rich?
0 factsnotfeelings 2016-11-13
lowering taxes is fine but it is better (and more equitable) if taxes are simply eliminated
1 DrDougExeter 2016-11-13
better for who exactly? Rich people?
0 factsnotfeelings 2016-11-13
for everyone, no taxes is the only form of equality that you can actually have
0 legalize-drugs 2016-11-13
Exactly. Ideological anarchists like this aren't exactly the brightest people.
1 Brendancs0 2016-11-13
Downvotes for accuracy
3 mahatma_arium_nine 2016-11-13
So long as we're under financial tyranny by central banking cartels, nothing will change for (((the powers that shouldn't be)))
3 InsanadyWolf 2016-11-13
Automation is coming and I never hear it being discussed by our politicians.
1 Vitalogy0107 2016-11-13
God you are a statist too? A coincidence theorist and a statist, lurking in conspiracy to throw shade at anyone who questions the official narrative on anything from government to 9/11. You're a scab, whether you know it or not.