Shadowbanned at /r/WhereIsJulian, full ban at /r/WhereIsAssange, where the original mod has now quit after installing 2 more mods. What in earth is going on here?
87 2016-12-03 by wrines
The "i quit" post by the original mod on /r/WhereIsAssange complains that people posted HERE - well no shit sherlock, we couldnt post there, but the silencing was ridiculous and is now even worse.
He actually says discussion needs to be based on evidence or shouldnt be allowed, on a sub which is in itself a conspiracy theory!! I mean, the official line is that JA is in the embassy and fine, so a sub named "where is he?" is already questioning the narrative - without any evidence!! Does any else see the irony here?
I wish he would just be honest and say "we must control the narrative because we have been taken over, just like Wikileaks was". At least thats the truth.
38 comments
36 poolskooled 2016-12-03
We know what's going on, Assange is captured and no longer in control of WL. He may have given his life for our freedom. I'm grateful of his life's work, he has woken millions and millions more to come. I hope his life's work is not in vain and the evil overlords of the world will face justice.
3 exicleus 2016-12-03
If this is the case then and that sub is compromised then it would be highly advisable to not post any kind of evidence. If the evidence is credible then it could backfire on you while also alerting them to it.
1 jasenlee 2016-12-03
I've assumed from the start that TPTB created that sub so they could control the messaging. Call me paranoid but I don't trust it.
1 wrines 2016-12-03
I trsuted it at first, the OP seemed sincere. But look at his weird quitting posts, after adding new mods a couple weeks ago - things have goes off the rails.
Obviously we dont know what goes on behind the scenes, regardless of the touted "public mod logs" which are trivial to skirt, but to me it very much feels like OP has been "pushed out".
1 wrines 2016-12-03
well this is partly why we r posting here - I was literally banned there. And Im not the only 1. EarthQuakeGirl and a number of others had exactly the same run in situations. Its ridiculous. Its obvious. Its to the point where I almost know what posts to bother reading comments on by how downvoted they are.
2 wrines 2016-12-03
my hope is after inauguration truth comes out and Trump pardons him. We will see.
5 We-think-we-are-free 2016-12-03
No way thats going to happen. If there is a pardon it will be proof real JA is dead.
10 gipsyouioui 2016-12-03
Julian Assange is dead, since then Wikileaks is runned like a "psy op", it helped trump to get elected. Also russian mob help to treat all Wikileaks members / actvists etc. Dead switch didn't work thx the "internet outage" but some people still try to release some shit to "revenge Assange". Dead switch content is HUGE. Wikileaks is game over. Period.
8 wrines 2016-12-03
Im hoping he isnt dead and is just in US custody. The massive and concerted disinfo campaign online (including here on Reddit) has me convinced he captors are at the highest levels, which would mean US govt. I dont see them killing him - call me trusting haha
0 gipsyouioui 2016-12-03
The way it looks rather than US, I think its more probably the russian and/or chinese who fucked him deep in the ass.
9 poolskooled 2016-12-03
That doesn't make much sense if you look at the actual timeline of events. There is no merit to your claim Russia had anything to do with it, purely wildly inaccurate speculation. There is however plenty of evidence supporting the theory that the US had everything to do with it.
-1 gipsyouioui 2016-12-03
With this obvious Wikileaks trolling style since Assange "left", I would say it was russian who operated this, but I didn't say US gov / obama admin is not concerned neither, I would say they just let their russian pals do the "dirty job", but I could be plain wrong and it could be the chinese, who knows lol. Actualy like anybody else I don't know lol. But the fact Julian Assange is missing / "like dead" and not in jail or custody plus the fact Wikileaks members/actvists seems all silenced a way they dont even speak about it (lol) etc etc plus the fact emabassy international laws /rules might have been breached to capture Assange make me think its rather the russians doing this shit and not CIA / US gov (except maybe the internet outage/dead man switch "disabled", once again I dunno). Wikileaks could have received any compromising infos from any sources in the world and not only US gov has stuffs to hide. Think about it.
12 poolskooled 2016-12-03
Who benefited from his silence? Russia? Nah.
rules might have been breached to capture Assange make me think its rather the russians doing this shit and not CIA / US
Oh because the US are such honest law followers.
1 gipsyouioui 2016-12-03
I don't know ... maybe Assange "planned" (or was told) to release some middly interesting /compromising stuff about HRC with the emails so called "scandal" in a first "batch" and then (secretly ?) planned go to the "next level" and release some more serious shit about trump / trump-russian ties / whatever / etc (This what I would have done if I was Assange lol) during a second batch that never happened. Personaly I think he was somehow "encouraged" to release some shit about HRC. Suppressing Assange after he started to release the HRC emails but before he released some more things related to the other "group" was somehow 100% benefit / "perfect timing" for the "criminals". Note : These are only my assumptions.
5 anonMAGA 2016-12-03
I was checking out your user history in that sub to try and get an idea of what is going on..... it looks like you think r/conspiracy is compromised too (http://archive.is/EKgAP)? You also admit to not being able to understand how to read the r/whereIsAssange public mod log in another comment (http://archive.is/V2iUD)? Maybe you should consider that you are making conclusions without much actual understanding? It's always important to have more questions than assumptions. I also checked the "I quit" post you referenced, and the OP only mentions r/conspiracy once,
Can you provide some more information to read about that sub and your issues with it? Because right now it really just seems you are upset about being banned from their sub and are trying to create controversy as some kind of payback.
1 wrines 2016-12-03
My "issues"? My issue is that the only moderation happening is boldfaced censorship on that sub, period. Same exact pattern as happened on dncleaks n wikileaks, which everyone here knows. All Im looking for is to point out that discussion of actually relevant and likely theories is quickly and viciously buried and the authors silenced/banned. Im not the only one. As one of the other critics said - if u can dig up the of course buried threads - the public mod logs are useless, they wouldnt show the heavy handed gestapo tactics being employed. My big crime was to post photos of the vans that i believe drove JA away....Oh the horror! That deserves 80 immediate downvotes and 30 comments from 1 month old accounts saying its "shitty evidence" (all of which upvote each other, how convenient), but lets all get back to ponderung the hidden meaning and message in embassy cats tweets. How freaking obvious and ridiculous. And then, icing on the cake, since I wont shut up at exactly how obvious and ridiculous, im banned. Well you losers cant ban me here can ya? Like i said, im not the first user to have to do this.
4 anonMAGA 2016-12-03
hey man, I was just asking you questions. There is no need to attack me personally. I was only asking for some more information, to try to understand your grievances.
You said your big crime was to post photos of the van, but anyone who looks at your user profile can see that you posted a number of low quality posts with shitty headlines? (http://archive.is/JCJyZ, http://archive.is/4ltZe, http://archive.is/e4Paw)
Then you tried to post there about how the subreddit was compromised (http://archive.is/aiIY2), just like r/wikileaks and r/conspiracy, and how people should go to r/whereisjulian instead. Now in this very post title you say THAT sub has you shadowbanned.
I don't moderate any communities on reddit, but if I did I'd probably also ban you for that kind of behavior. Have you considered that the only common factor here is you?
3 wrines 2016-12-03
First off i didnt make this personal u did, and im sorry but im not taking the bait. I realize that in addition to mass downvote burials, "shouting downs", and bans, the other tactic being deployed are these constant circular logic argument-extensions ad finitum, but again Im not taking the bait and am happy that the readers reading this can see the behavior Im referencing.
And here u r, doing the same thing, attacking me personally, attacking the "quality" of the photos, wtf seriously? Talk about beside the point. As a final underscore here, your personal attack on me says I am the common element but there are a half dozen other users who have gone thru the same migration cycle of horribleness....why would this be?
I came back to this sub by following someone else who had to do the same as me, even the op of whereisassange posted here. Not so alone now in coming here am I?
1 anonMAGA 2016-12-03
I saw your post on r/conspiracy, then looked at your comment history where even the 'removed' posts are visible to try and get an idea of what the situation was. I asked questions and you immediately got defensive. The 'behavior [you're] referencing' is me trying to have a conversation with you, but it's fine because we're clearly not making any sort of progress. I won't reply after this comment (really).
How am I attacking you personally? I am asking you to clarify statements you have made here and in other places, as seen on your own user page. You got really prickly when I did so, which to me suggests that you don't really want your claims questioned. Not a great impression. The 'quality' statement was not about one post but instead the contributions it looked like you had made to that subreddit. I provided links. You are either intentionally muddying the water or need to read it again.
I don't really know what that means. I don't care if it's you, 100 people, or even a million saying something, I will ask probing questions and try to understand as best I can. If your claims don't stand up to scrutiny, I think you should try to hone your argument, not attack the person asking questions. Again, I won't reply after this, because it's clear that we're talking past each other, but I want to leave this exchange up for people to make their own conclusions about how we've both acted.
1 8toborrm 2016-12-03
"not going to reply" Wow, to what do we owe the pleasure of your previous comments? How lucky! thank you for coming down here to reply at all, m'lord.
Even your examples of his " low quality posts " are bad examples. Let's look at them now:
1.He's correct: October 18: Witnesses photo and report a convoy of military/police and a SERCO (the same company prison van responsible for "escorting" julian assange into the embassy originally) van that rolled on the embassy. ( prison van convoy: https://i.4cdn.org/pol/1480657034570.jpg )
2.He's correct to ask what's going on with that (now dogshit) sub. Immediately following Assange's extraordinary rendition, on Oct. 20, /r/wikileaks, /r/dncleaks, /r/wikileakstaskforce add 21 new moderators and remove previous mods, all threads about Assange going missing deleted since. Wikileaks twitter, after having no ( Z E R O ) typos in their 10+year history, has 5 typos in a two day period. The letters missed or added erroneously can be reordered to " HELP HIM ".
3.He's correct to ask how, when, and why posts require approval now. He didn't do so in a manor that you approve of and so therefor it's low-quality content? Or do you just not like the question he was asking? I'm not going to describe why, and I'm not going to patronize you in a passive-aggressive manor like you did to OP here. Your attempts to take what you apparently consider an academic high ground over the other user are transparent.
4.He's correct to post regarding the fact that those subs now have a very controlled output. Reddit is volatile, anyone who wishes to suppress an important message can and will do so, because it's worth it. The right sub could gain popularity very quickly. Best to nip it in the bud while it's still possible. Before it turns into a pizzagate for example.
Stop being such a cunt, honestly. If you're hired to perpetuate the nonsense, that's one thing. But if you're a real person, feel free to not believe it and move on. The fact remains that there's more circumstantial evidence for his extraordinary rendition than there is for his being alive right now. That says a lot. And if you think his extraordinary rendition is beyond the reaches of the CIA you're delusional.
1 erktheerk 2016-12-03
/r/Nsaleaks has not added mods or removed any posts. We are a curated subreddit dedicated to the leaks by Edward Snowden, and the NSA in general. Not even sure how we made your list of subs in this context.
0 8toborrm 2016-12-03
Fixed
0 wrines 2016-12-03
your account is a month old.
Please be serious.
If you truly are that new to Reddit, then you realy have no business being so forensic in examining and critiquing my post histories and patterns. OR, you are a repeat experienced Redditor, which would conveniently not allow me to do the same analysis on your posting histories. Which is it? Never mind, I dont care.
Even though you tried to make it about me and my personal posting, that isnt what this should be about. It should be about how we are having a discussion here on a separate sub because both (actually all 3 ) of the subs that this stuff should be discussed on are so heavily controlled and censored by an obvious behind-the-scenes (and I think organized) groupthink that it is impossible. That is not only my observation, but that of others, so readers who see this are aware.
1 anonMAGA 2016-12-03
I mean, I don't see you posting any threads in THIS subreddit about how r/conspiracy is compromised, even though you had said as much in other posts on other subreddits. I think you aren't doing that because you know it will be removed. It's pretty obvious to most people how something like that will go down.
2 8toborrm 2016-12-03
Really? He posts about Assange's extraordinary Rendition in a sub controlled by people who remove or condemn that information ASAP and you are trying to accuse him of what, being afraid to make a post about a sub being compromised? You suck at what you do.
1 wurrboutit 2016-12-03
I mean, AssuredlyAThrowAway, who is a mod here, was part of the takeover of r/wikileaks...
3 InANameWhat 2016-12-03
You have been banned from /r/self.conspiracy
3 wrines 2016-12-03
very funny
2 btsfav 2016-12-03
steemit.com is a social network running on blockchain tech - can't be censored or altered without public knowledge and consent. On a side note..
2 Lovehat 2016-12-03
has anyone called the embassy and asked if they could speak with him?
2 wrines 2016-12-03
Been tried several times and even live video recorded, they say all inquiries need to be made to <contact info> and they refuse to give any information.
If you look at the timeline stickied on /r/whereIsAssange. And try to step back and look from a birds eye view at events around the week 10/15-10/21 to me its plain what happened. JA was taken into custody on a USA "national security / election meddling" pretext. And I dont complain or care if people draw a different conclusion, but to have such massive coordinated discrediting and personal attacks disgusts me and I wont just take it without calling it out. Like I said, several others aaid the exact same, is it a group delusion?
1 godlameroso 2016-12-03
Holding pattern?
1 Telenerd 2016-12-03
You're all being played.
2 wrines 2016-12-03
Please elaborate
1 koopa_t 2016-12-03
ASsange is one of them
2 wurrboutit 2016-12-03
Consider how much msm attention sanders got, now consider how much assange got...
1 koopa_t 2016-12-03
Lol yeah, put on a pedestal instead of being buried
0 Sunny_McJoyride 2016-12-03
Just because the official line is that JA is in the embassy, it doesn't mean that evidence can't exist that suggests otherwise.