What, pray tell, is the point of this?

If you don't believe it, why stir the pot? I don't get it.

Here's my current assessment:

Is pizzagate itself real? I don't know personally.

• Are there illicit images of children online? Yes.
• Do people have to somehow create these images in order to distribute them? Obviously.
• Do lots of children go missing each year? Yes, ABC News (take it or leave it) has reported that about 800,000 children go missing each year.
• Are some of these children used for sex trafficking? Yes, though I don't have any numbers handy to say exactly how many... We know it's a big problem, though.
• Are there people out there who abuse children? Yes.
• Are some famous and elite people pedophiles? Yes.
• Is it feasible that some pedophiles get together to do their horrendous activity? Yes. Supply and demand, among other things. Plus, if you have connections, it's not only easier to get what you want, but easier to get away with what you want. This is true for drug users, and it logically seems true for child abusers, too.
• Is it feasible that some people have a network of children at their disposal? Well, given the above, I'd have to say yes.

I don't know, honestly. This is just basic logic I'm using here.

I have a friend here in texas who is on a charity board that focuses on the child sex traffic trade, and helping those who escape or get rescued.

Let me tell you this, it is more prevalent, more perverse, and more painful than you can possibly imagine.

Then add in all the "coincidences" of strange and unusual images/posting/symbols/art that all the pizzagate members like to have around them...

Tony Podesta and wife have"shocking" nude teenagers art in their house, along with an infant in diapers and you can only see the bottom half of the child...

Too many coincidences...but with out concrete evidence we have to just keep following and see what is uncovered...

None of that has anything to do with Pizzagate. Getting tired of pointing this out over and over. Pizzagate is a specific event with a handful of people, nothing else that happens in the world is proof of Pizzagate. Pizzagate needs it's own evidence and victims. It has neither, it has reasonable cause to investigate and that is all.

Then stop pointing it out?

All I'm saying is that there's a precedent for this sort of behavior and that there are networks (big and small) that do this stuff. Therefore, is pizzagate really that big a stretch? I'm starting to think no.

Just because you can't see it doesn't mean it's not real.

Again, I'm not saying pizzagate itself is real, but the sex trafficking is a serious thing that we should pay attention to. I'm also saying that there are networks of people who do this on the regular.

Also, the implication that because it's huge, there would be leaks... that's a false assumption. Did you see the Anderson Cooper video yet? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VpFFpfsK4jk&app=desktop What happened? Why hasn't this blown open? Budgetary reasons? Come on. How can we not find money to investigate something of this magnitude?

Again, my focus isn't on the pizza aspect of pizzagate, but rather the fact that there are people who do this, some of which are going to be elites. Look at Jerry Sandusky or Dennis Hastert. Both are elite in their own way, both have been busted. That doesn't mean the abuse stops, that just means some abusers are gone now.

I'm just saying, there are things that happen regularly that you are not aware of - some by your own choice, some by others' people's choices.

To claim that it's impossible for this sort of thing to happen is outrageous. This shit happens.

They get away with it until they don't. They keep it secret until it is no longer a secret.

Just because it's awful to imagine another human being acting sick and perverted and such is hard doesn't mean it isn't real.

If you find it hard to believe they could/would cover that bit up, the Entire truth would give you a stroke.

Sorry to jump in but Im willing to waste time so here is my guess for what it's worth: I think you, as an individual, could try to get into politics or to be a judge or a chief of police, but when you try to get to the top, at some point they invite you to a meeting to discuss important matters and then they drug you. Then they put child slaves on you and film you raping and eating the kid. At this point you are one of them. You are part of the brotherhood and you will NEVER reveal the truth about your brothers. Those that did were killed or ridiculed into oblivion. That is the world you live in. A massive mafia maintained by blackmail over child rape is in charge of every important political institution.

Let me clarify: I did say ALL high-level (as in very very high level) politicians, all supreme sourt judges and all police chiefs in all cities AND YES I meant in all the world. I know it's a lot to swallow all at once. Re-read my other reply; I am describing their methods, now just imagine that they started this a couple thousand years ago, what do you think we end up with? A false world with false countries and false problems manipulated at the top by a secret mafia. Yes it is possible when you think about it.

And yes they would do stuff openly in their little secret parties. Not in public. They hint at it though (spirit cooking, satanism in music industry...). The people on the lower levels don't know. You don't know, right? So you just do your job. Right? That's what they do too. Everyone does. The machine is working.

If you control the laws, the media, the news, and the government (because you are the government), then practicing it openly is not out of the question. Podesta talks pretty openly in his emails about it, if the code language is to be believed (and honestly what the fuck else are they talking about so covertly and weirdly)

People that feel like conspiracies this large could never be kept secret are not understanding that the big secret is not kept by thousands. No secrets are kept by the laypeople, they just serve an agenda unwittingly. Their superiors know they follow rules of people higher than themselves but not all the reasons why and money stops a lot of questions from being asked. The step above them know that there are things their subordinates should never hear about. Their superiors know that there is more to the story yet and by the time you get to those who know the full story, you're talking about just a relative handful. Those are the only people keeping Big secrets.

In this manner, not only can they cover up a massive pedophilia network, they can cover up literally anything and, if it doesn't suit their agenda, they do. They can fabricate anything and the common populace will accept it. They control everything that is daily life to that end and by those means so you live in a society where literally nothing is not used to deceive you.

voat.co/v/pizzagate has a lot of info.

The same media outlets that said Hillary had a 98% chance of winning the election say there is a 98% chance PizzaGate isn't true.

That being said you must understand two things:

1. You can't approximate events they are either true or false

2. Why is the media working so hard to crush this story, saying that it's debunked without actually giving any evidence. Why are they so adamant to make this disappear?

Other things you don't tend to see in the news:

Tons of top military officials have quietly been fired for being part of a child pornography ring.

High level government officials through the world are currently being investigated for being tied to global pedophile rings. If it's happening throughout Europe and Canada what makes you think it isn't happening here?

Ask yourself one question. How did the other pedophile rings go undetected for so long? It's not as if it's impossible to hide it. It's as simple as blackmail. If you don't keep your mouth shut you go down in flames with everyone else. That keeps the circle complete and free from outsiders, until eventually someone gets too comfortable and becomes complacent. They start to openly flaunt things that to them seem harmless, but to others begs to be questioned. That's when people start to notice and begin investigating.

Look at Jimmy Savile he was involved in pedophilia and sexual abuse for SIX DECADES and it wasn't until after his death that anything was found out about it. Nearly 500 people filed formal complaints against him between 1955 and his death in 2011, not once was he ever investigated. He likely wasn't alone in it and it's beyond obvious that BBC was covering for him.

This isn't the first time this has happened and sadly it likely won't be the last. To assume it is false without some critical thinking is naive. To think that the media does not collude with high level celebrities and government officials is naive. To believe anything the MSM tells you without checking direct sources is also incredibly naive.

No one knows what is really going on behind Pizza Gate, there is a lot of pedophilia related nuances like logos and codewords. No one knows the extent of who is involved. That doesn't mean we should dismiss it. There are far too many coincidences to dismiss this.

Why is it that your average Joe pizza shop owner is considered one of the 50 most influential people in DC. A place full of the most influential people in the country?

Why does that same man have close ties to both Podesta, The Clintons and Obama?

Why did that man have pedophile related artwork posted all over his social media accounts?

Why does another near by pizza shop with an owner who yet again has high level government ties have strange pedophile related posts online? Why is one of their most responsive followers a DOJ employee who is assigned to a team that investigates pedophilia? Why was their logo a pedophile symbol?

Why is it that the Clintons and Podesta are close friends of Jeffery Epstein a known pedophile? Why have they been on his plane nearly 30 times? The same plane he was known to traffic underage girls on.

Why is it that immediately after the Clintons visited Haiti a number of young girls were reported missing?

Why is it that half a dozen young journalists who were investigating the Clintons all have mysteriously died?

This is just a sliver of the strange coincidences that lead people to believe that there is something to Pizza Gate.

its quite simple , most powerful elites are involved if one goes down they take the rest of them down too so they help each other to try and cover the entire thing up , money moves the world but when the people unite like this it's game over and they aren't covering up at the rate that it is spreading . new info is coming out everyday and more people are learning the truth.

I personally don't really care if pizzagate is ever proven, it's all the other kids suffering from wars, hunger, cold, homelessness and I'll take pizzagate or anything to make people angry enough to want to do something about this fucked system.

I think you are lazy. Convince me otherwise. (I highly doubt my view will change)

If you still think this is a liberal vs conservative issue you are lost and can't be helped anyways. Good luck driving in rush hour traffic.

silsby kidnapping 33 children from haiti for the clintons

alefantis said there was a basement and now denies any basement being there

Camera moved 24 hours before shooting and moved back 24 hours later.

also i forgot to ask did you happen to find the hankerchief i left at your place with a pizza related map?

Not all just the leaders of these institutions that's who the elites target for blackmailing . They use pedophilia itself to blackmail or family. Most the the time they appoint a corrupt person to these institutions to easily control them and everyone below them. It's not that hard to understand , and your problem right now is you are conditioned to believe what These same institutions tell you is evidence or not, so by them not coming forward you deny all this evidence as not plausible. I can tell you from my background in the courtroom that more than 75% of what has been dug up will stand in court .

Podesta is up to something wicked.

His group is doing something with codewords.

Anderson Cooper made this a story 5 years ago, and then suddenly stopped.

The MSM is trying to convince you that it is "fake news" and that the entire thing revolves around a single pizza parlor, and therefore, if they can prove the pizza parlor doesn't have anything to do with it, therefore the ENTIRE thing is false.

In chess terms, you sacrifice the pawn (Comet Ping Pong), throw shade on a place you know is safe, and then shine the light on the red herring, and voila!, see, Comet Ping Pong is safe! Therefore the story has no basis.

It's the quintessential coverup.

I mean based upon the "evidence" people are throwing around about whats on these peoples instagram pages, this would essentially be something like an open practice in Washington. Which means that everyone would have to know about it. Which would in turn mean that everyone was a pedophile.

That is quite a jump in logic. It's known that there was an investigation quite a while ago, as noted here that there were 5200 people who were alleged to have purchased child porn in the DOD ALONE.

Of those, according to Mr. Cooper, only 2/3rds were checked, and 262 of the 3500 were found to have done so. That assumes that another 130 or so are still out there in the remaining 1/3rd. That's 400 people in the DOD ALONE (sorry for repeating that) who are into child porn.

As for the conspiracy thing, the entire NSA and CIA (and contractors) had hidden the US metadata gathering for quite awhile before Mr. Snowden exposed it. And the NSA people consider what they are doing totally legal, and still it was silent. This paedophile thing is blatantly illegal, and the stigma associated with it is horrific. The Catholic church hid their priests' molestation and covered it up for decades. Using that same logic, EVERY CATHOLIC molests young boys. You can't make that jump in logic.

What you can do is what is happening now. The idea that power players are out there fucking little boys and girls is so outrageous, (sort of like priests fucking little boys), that people just don't want to believe it, and so ignore the signs right in front of them. it's a defense mechanism, and I am not a doctor or psychologist or behaviorist, but I am a fan of history. And I can see the trends of things occurring in history before all having these same charecteristics - crazy allegations that are proven true after many attempts to expose are shot down through pressure from the powerful, not necessarily to protect the guilty, but top protect those ASSOCIATED with the guilty.

Podesta may not be a paedophile himself, but he certainly is a facilitator for it, and that keeps him in power, as he knows their secrets.

Interesting Milo comment regarding pizzagate.

Everyone in Washington knows it. It's a known known. Just like Saudi sex slaves are a known known. Bacha bazi a known known. Etc...etc...etc.

Well, you seem like you have a open mind.

Hold your breath this person is just spam

Wanna try to change my view (Warning: I highly doubt my view would ever change)

Research for yourself and don't be a cunt

Would talking about your feelings more help?

Cool story brah

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Removed, warning for rule 10.

This just in: nobody cares.