Ok wtf r/conspiracy...

8  2016-12-24 by M4GICM1KE

This sub has always felt like the place to be for actual conversation. And like many of you, with so much disgust for Clinton, I cherry picked some Trump ideas, got on the_donald and road the high energy mix of blasting MSM and talkin' conspiracies for last few months. I got out of the_donald today after coming here and seeing how infested it is with circle jerkers. We had lefts/rights agreeing and discussing whats really happening in this world and now the trump train has dug its hooks in and brought tremendous bias to a place 2 years ago felt like it had almost zero compared to every other sub out there. I didn't have a problem with trump supporters, hell I supported them when all my liberal friends were being sore losers. But now this Isreal stuff...some of the team picks...this sub should be in an uproar as the elite stay in power and no justice has been served for anything anyone up there has done. Reddit has gone to shit...this sub has been divided by shills and trump circle jerkers alike. If this sub continues down this path im not sure where I'll go but it wont be here.

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Prior to the election we all knew both parties were corrupt. Now that we have elected Trump, there are those who feel he is part of the same establishment and those who feel he is not. I honestly have no idea where Trump stands with regards to the establishment but I hope he has been honest with the American people. Within 6 or 12 months we should have a good idea of what Trump's agenda is; at that point I see this community realigning in a particular direction. Right now there is no reason not to embrace Trump, as he is our best shot at "draining the swamp."

These are pretty much my thoughts.

Im just going to keep an open mind. See what happens. Nothing else anyone can really do about it now.

Right now, the media is still against him. The political and hollywood elites are still against him. You would think some of this shit would have died down if he was a puppet of the elite.

So I really dont know what's going on, but like I said, I am going to keep an open mind about it and see what happens.

Very true..seems the same patterns of push back from MSM are mirrored here more aggressively then ever. Fox is just lucky to be on "this" side at the moment if that makes any sense....or we're unlucky. Things were simpler when everyone hated conspiracies.

Im just saying and my tin foil hats strappen down harn rn, but what if Trump ran the MSM? Considering everything they have done to "hurt" him has done nothing but help him. How many stories are we gonna have that make him look like shit but lack sinple evidence? He did run a huge show on NBC for quite some time... Like they love to say "9d chess"

Prior to the election we all knew both parties were corrupt.

They were right and they're still right. Trump will and probably already has dumped us.

You think so? You know, considering everyone he's appointed has been part of the metaphorical swamp he claimed he was going to drain

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Sounds like a lot of what I heard 8 years ago

Still waiting for my "Change", Trump isn't going to bring it.

It's funny, this sub used to know that the president has little to no actual power. But since T_D took it over, Trump is going to be a savior president according to this sub

Not sure if you've trying to make a point or just shilling.

Really? I say im still waiting on Obamas change and say trump wont bring it either and you think im shilling? For who? Gary Johnson?

Look at my post history, I live on T_D. That being said 99% of my karma is from blindsheep circle jerking anything anti left I have to say. The shilling this is such bullshit, I love Trump but thats cuz he entertains me and I dont take a word for fact that comes out of his mouth I just love libtard salt thats all so now call me a shill. Oh yea ive got 8k comment karma from T_D that enougj should sure the pure herd mentality of that sub

Obama was successful in getting many of his policies passed. To say he (and the dems) didn't "change" the country is just plain false. Our country has changed more drastically in the last 8 years then ever in modern history. As for the shilling, sounds like establishment craziness to me.

We changed a lot in 8 years cuz that life and to think it has anything to do with an establishment is putting way to much faith in our country.

You're out of your mind if you think Obama brought to change he promised

Again, I'm bipartisan shit talking. You're promoting trump. Who's the shill, again?

I'm not promoting anyone. I'm just making observations and providing some opinion. You continue to pivot without making any rational or valid points. As for bipartisan, yes you are, just as the establishment is bipartisan.

Sorry this isn't the Donald where we circle jerk about him. Go back there if you want to do that.

And before you say you're not promoting him, clear your submission history before you make that claim. You post there, and here. Go back there and suck his dick if you want that, otherwise don't get butt hurt when I say he sucks, Obama sucks, hillary sucks, they all suck

Again, who's the shill? Sure as shit ain't me

No black lives matter movement until we got a black president, if that dont scream change than I dont what does...

"Questionable"?

These picks would be ostracized by this community if they were being picked by anyone other than Trump.

It's literally a long list of people with ties to organizations and corporate/financial entities that this sub has long rallied against.

Bilderberg, CFR, Goldman Sachs, Rothschild Inc, JP Morgan Chase, Exxon Mobil, Soros, General Dynamics, PNAC, etc.

I'm not sure why he picks who he picks. Only thing I can figure is he believes we will enter into another recession/depression and is looking for people who can help mitigate damage and help the country recover.

How can he actually even appoint people before he's been sworn in?

You're part of the problem. You contributed to it now you want to type some feel good shit to appease yourself.

Again, you are part of the problem.

Interesting point..I may have drank a sip of that kool-aid and im not proud of it and if you want to call me part of the problem so be it. But this wasnt ment to be feel good at all more of a realization I had about myself and wanted to share in hopes that if anyone else made the same mistake I did, think about questionable judgements that may have come from being so (deservedly) anti-clinton. Im typically a lurker so im not sure how much of a problem I have caused. This was more to anyone who thinks conspiracy and the donald are on the same page...they may share a few talking points but the donald lacks the depth of skepticism needed in this day and age. I realize that now and here I am expressing it, thats all.

I so fucking sick of the hipster fringe cult T_D has become... Oh yea I got a huge amount of Karma from that sub so it aint like I hate Trump

Let me tell you this, the damage has already been done and it won't be reversed. You should have thought about this long and hard before you got drunk from the kool-aid.

Yes, this sub and the donald are on the same page and we all know where the fault lies. So it doesn't matter if the donald lacks the depth and skepticism when it's shown time and time again that many people within this community lack depth and skepticism.

The path to "being awake" has a different learning curve for everyone. Its funny cause you're right about me and although I didnt vote for trump or post anything "pro-trump" (what im talking about was mainly internal) I dont blame you for calling me out for it.

Bye, thanks for nothing.

Who (or what) are you and what is r/sweepstakes and r/giveaways?

oooh you can read a post history, congrats.

Edit: and I bet you were hoping for a better response. But posts like these are a dime a dozen, the meta bullshit that goes on in this sub is the worst part of it. The drama and shitposts are something none of us want to deal with. There are definitely shills and faithful supporters for all sorts of topics beyond Trump. People are upset with Trump's behaviors, but then again there are people who are pretending he is the greatest and those who blindly follow him. Donald Trump hasn't ruined this sub, he's just added to the noise. I don't know what you are asking for but I think these things should have a 'Meta' tag or something so I and others can know when to stay the out. Again, bye thanks for nothing.

When has the presidency been anything other than a front for the military-industrial complex?

Yes. I had such a grasp on that concept. I was always a liberal leaner and watching them implode while supporters stood by blindly was gross. The military spending in this country is out of control and people who have been here since before the election know exactly why.. I lost sight of that momentarily when it seemed like all main stream elite pushed back so hard on trump. But seems now that was plan b for them all along and i fell for it. Im not perfect.

and i fell for it.

You and millions of others. But this is still the best sub.

You can thank the mods for stubbornly ignoring rules 6 and 11 when the posts were favorable to Trump or unfavorable to Clinton.

As above, so below...

4 and 10 as well.

Do you think im using abusive and threating language against this sub? Some of the discussion in here was what I was hoping for and then some is just a waste of space. Im so sick of seeing responses to threads that contribute nothing to the conversation besides back handed passive aggresive one liners. Were on a discussion board...discuss...

No, we're not talking about you in this instance.

Trump has sadly proved that group think isn't just reserved for the masses, it's also very prevalent in conspiracy circles.

So many drank the kool-aid and now they're dealing with the cognitive dissonance that follows.

The elites played this election perfectly. They made "the people" think they won. Well done, chaps.

Agreed. I partially fell for it too, no doubt. I think this is about group think as well and consant pressure of different narratives we are bombarded with constantly.

I never thought he would do shit but he made me lol so I voted for him, kinda sad what it takes to sway an avg persons opinion.

I'm just saying: wait till he's in office and actually doing shit. Maybe he has a plan, maybe not.

Isn't it a little strange to elect someone who may have a plan???

Isn't it a little strange people still think political elections are real.

Your trying to tell me the MSM never learned that all the pro Clinton shit and anti Trump slander did not help him? He owns the MSM and he new as long has he was the underdog and apeared to be loosing people would vote for him. I did

Did you just admit to voting? What did you think you would accomplish?

It is strange.

You're not alone. A lot of us have noticed an uptick in astroturf coinciding with the election. Unfortunately, it seems to be here permanently.

I love Trump but watching the herd mentality of T_D is just scary. I like Trump cuz he triggers cucks and is good entertainment, but watching these people eat up every word that comes out of his mouth is pathetic and thats the thing its at the point were you cant even question him. LoL ive been on T_D since it was pure satire and only people who have been there since day 1 will actually know the sub was created to bash and make fun of Trump...

And if you want proof look at my comment history, all my karma is from T_D and my posts dont actually have anything to do with praising Trump they more or so bash the left.

Fack, I'm a Canadian and I fell for it. I thought he was a better choice because of the whole "no-fly-zone" in Syria, that Clinton wanted. I shouldn't care but I'm anti-war and Soviet bombs would have probably crumbled in mid-flight and hit us Canadians while en-route to the USA. Now Trump seems to be alienating China, and showing how cozy he is to Israel. Why does it now seem there will be war either way? Maybe I'm thinking to deep into things.

At this point being against killery doesn't matter any more and being against Trump is relevant. I find this to be the best sub on reddiit by far.

Like it or move on.

Real or not I would rather a plan than no plan.

Yes. I had such a grasp on that concept. I was always a liberal leaner and watching them implode while supporters stood by blindly was gross. The military spending in this country is out of control and people who have been here since before the election know exactly why.. I lost sight of that momentarily when it seemed like all main stream elite pushed back so hard on trump. But seems now that was plan b for them all along and i fell for it. Im not perfect.

Your trying to tell me the MSM never learned that all the pro Clinton shit and anti Trump slander did not help him? He owns the MSM and he new as long has he was the underdog and apeared to be loosing people would vote for him. I did

No, we're not talking about you in this instance.

It is strange.

and i fell for it.

You and millions of others. But this is still the best sub.