Can you quote me what Trump said because the MSM has been lying about all of his positions for the past 12 months so just because they (the MSM) says this, well it doesn't really mean jack becausethey lie incessantly.

Man, have you heard his speeches? The MSM can type what he says verbatim and half the planet goes up in arms. He's giving it to them on a platter!

I've seen all his speeches. Never heard him say he was going after marijuana...

I think Spice-Daddy said it. Not Trump.

"[...] I do believe that you'll see greater enforcement of it [marijuana]," Spicer said during Thursday briefing, responding to a question regarding the state-federal conflict of marijuana laws.

http://www.businessinsider.de/spicer-says-justice-department-will-enforce-weed-laws-under-trump-2017-2?r=US&IR=T

Spicer's beliefs aren't the same thing as Trump's words/position.

I don't think there is a quote from Trump on a crackdown, but he should clarify it today. He is getting alot of flack from people who voted for him ( I'm one ) on this. Go over to /r/the_donald and see for yourself. If he cracks down on recreational use he's going to lose supporters. I don't smoke weed but enforcement against recreational use is wrong. Legalize it, license dealers and tax the sales. Too bad to any ultra conservatives that think different on this they weren't his supporters anyway.

Yea I'm guessing half r/the_donald was smoking weed while making their endless supply of pro-trump memes.

So why don't we just deregulate all drug use, prescription or otherwise, and just let the "states decide".

Not trying to sound harsh, but what is the difference between weed and any other drug?

Unfortunately, people aren't smart enough to realize that recreational drug use has very serious consequences for other people... just like alcohol abuse.

I'm not really a student of the subject, but I'm not aware of anything that proves marijuana is any more harmful than alcohol. Both have the potential of being used responsibly or abused. As far as other drugs, I don't know of any that are recreationally used that are on the same level, but if there is any particular ones that exist fine, legalize it.

Both marijuana and alcohol are addictive, I don't care what anyone on here says. I have seen both first hand.

As for the recreational use of other drugs, there are hundreds... people get addicted to prescription drugs every day, and cannot break free of that addiction. A few that come to mind are Valium, Hydrocodone, Percocet, Ritalin, etc. These drugs are extremely habit-forming (addictive) and are regulated with a prescription to prevent their misuse. Their use is not quite as main-stream as weed, but the idea is the same.

Legalizing the misuse of these drugs would be a terrible idea. It's bad enough that we have people out on the road driving after smoking weed, drinking alcohol... we don't need them high on all these other drugs as well.

I don't care what people do in their own home. Smoke, drink, get high on prescription drugs, whatever. But as soon as they leave the house, and put someone else at risk, that's where the line has got to be drawn. Don't put your own life, liberty, and pursuit of happiness in front of someone else's. That's selfish and wrong.

Cannabis addiction is not the same as other drug addictions. The pills you listed cause a physical addiction. The same is true with alcohol and nicotine. Cannabis can cause a mental addiction in some people, which is easily broken with a wonderful thing called willpower.

I'm sorry, not buying that. It's a chemical addiction for all the things you have listed. Willpower in most people is not strong enough to break that addiction.

What exactly is a physical addiction btw? What makes that any different from a chemical addiction?

By physical I mean it has physical withdrawal symptoms. With cannabis the only withdrawal symptom is you thinking, "Man, I really wish I had some weed".

False:

http://www.webmd.com/mental-health/addiction/news/20080507/withdrawal-symptoms-from-smoking-pot

https://www.addictioncenter.com/drugs/marijuana/withdrawal-detox/

http://www.leafscience.com/2016/03/09/marijuana-withdrawal-myth-reality/

Just to google a few....

Lol, I only read the WebMD one and it is automatically biased by referring to it as pot. That study asked life long weed smokers to quit smoking. Obviously they will start again and probably went and bought a huge sack from the money they got. The symptoms listed were the same you would get if you asked someone to stop using social media, video games, tv, unhealthy food, cokes, the list goes on and on.

Well, if you had read the rest of them: LeafScience is actually a pro-marijuana site which I included for non-biasing.

How is using the word pot biased? Marijuana smokers themselves use this word all the time.

I was just trying to show you that there are real consequences of smoking weed, not just the immediate effects. Just like cigarettes, alcohol, etc.

At the end of leafscience:

"However, he adds that cannabis withdrawal is more psychological rather than physical and never directly life-threatening — unlike withdrawal from alcohol, sedatives, or opiates."

You should really read your own links before spreading disinfo.

More, not completely....

You should read my sources, and not skim for confirmation bias...

I never said cannabis withdrawal was life-threatening, I just said that it had more symptoms than just cravings...

And I didn't spread any disinfo... I posted links to sources.

In fact, your original comment was the only disinfo.

Both marijuana and alcohol are addictive, I don't care what anyone on here says. I have seen both first hand.

You generally make a good argument, but I don't think it's necessary to be quite so black and white about it. Many things are addictive, be it psychologically or physiologically or both, but not all of those are inherently harmful to the addict or their peers. Weed is about the least harmful drug (in both the recreational sense as well as the pharmacological sense) we have ever known, and criminalizing its use leads people to seek legal alternatives to mend their pain or to simply get high for the fun of it. In many cases, this leads to the abuse of painkillers and opioids, as well as alcoholism. Inversely, it has been shown repeatedly that alcoholics and painkiller addicts manage to reduce or quit their self-destructive habits by using cannabis instead.

I'm not denying that one can get lost in the pleasures of cannabis too, but from my own experience, that is less an inherent danger of the substance than it is dependant character and circumstance of the user. Criminalizing the substance when the overwhelming majority of users has no personal, psychological or physiological issues resulting from the use of the substance seems entirely the wrong approach to my mind.

Reasonable regulation as we have with alcohol, as well as an appeal to personal responsibility and accessible rehabilitation for those who have crossed the threshold and need help is the way to go in my view.

So why don't we just deregulate all drug use, prescription or otherwise, and just let the "states decide".

We absolutely should. Better to get your drugs from a pharmacist than a shady drug dealer who cuts their drugs with impurities.

All the proof anyone should need

Mike Nelson did the DVD commentary for Reefer Madness, I can't watch it without it now.

I don't know if Trump has been bought or if this is genuinely what he believes. He's well know for his views on smoking, drinking, drugs etc.

It's still none of his fucking business what other people decide to put in their bodies.

He's a puppet...

Likely true, but I think he also genuinely believes weed is evil.

which is even worse than being a puppet

Which is worse, knowing the difference between good and bad while doing the wrong thing? Or not know the difference between good and bad while doing the bad thing?

One requires malice, the other requires ignorance.

I'd argue that malice might be slightly worse, unless the ignorance is willful. Now you're into a whole other thing.

its a good point. I guess it comes to which can do more damage as President of the United States. Ignorance or malice. probably another toss up.

Why would he think weed is evil? Cuz he doesn't smoke or drink? The dude tried to sell Trump Vodka. He don't give a fuck.

Because he is old fashioned and believes that weed makes you lazy/apathetic.

It does but people should have the right to feel that way after a long day of hard work. Better than getting super drunk n stupid.

So when are we all protesting by lighting up a joint outside of the White House?

that's the worst part of all this, we are seeing the puppet strings in action

The fact that he can be so narcissistic and unhinged without intoxicants is surprising.

Its almost impressive actually.

He's a liar and most likely a drug user, just as many other politicians are. The rules don't apply to them.

Same should go for abortion

Yeah consuming something and ending a potential life are the same thing.

I personally don't give two shits what others do with their bodies. Neither should our government.

Part of me says he's a puppet. The other part knows he's a baby boomer that still believes in the whole Reefer Madness bullshit.

Top of his class in a military academy while the rest of the boomers were letting their hair grow, wearing highly individualized threads, and breaking any rules that didn't make sense, didn't harm others, and that should never have been made in any so-called "free country".

What does that have to do with holding an outdated and ignorant view on cannabis? If anything he should be able to recognize rules against cannabis don't make sense, it isn't harming others, and shouldn't have ever been made illegal in any so-called free country.

Do we want a nation of potheads?

we should want a nation of self determined individuals. if you want to be a heroine junkie thats your business. its no ones job let alone the governments to tell you what to do as long as you are not hurting people.

Heroines are cool. Heroin junkies? Not so much.

You ever know a heroin junkie? They don't work. They have a completely incapacitating addiction. Bye-bye for days at a time. -Their only concern is gathering money for fixes.

Thats a productive part of society? That doesen't hurt people? How could it not?

People advocating for legalization of hard drugs, especially when we're talking about marijuana? -IDIOTs. Some of em' certainly shills, discrediting the validity of marijuana legalization.

/But mostly idiots.

But Weed destroys your determination.

Tell that to every comedian I work with every night.

You conveniently left out the part where they said they would leave medical alone and go only after recreational. So yes still shitty but people who are sick and with NEED it will still have access.

I don't care who needs it, this is a personal liberty issue. And if they really wanted to assist the ones that need it, rescheduling from a Schedule 1 substance with "no currently accepted medical use and a high potential for abuse" might be helpful.

I'm all for hoping Trump is one of the good guys, but going after cannabis in recreational states that have already made their voices heard is a quick way to delegitimize all these ideas of him "making america great again."

The War on Drugs needs to be recognized as was it is: a FAILURE

Listen I'm on your side but to be fair is not like Obama or anyone else ever legalized it either so I don't know why anyone thought trump all people would be the guy to do it

He is going directly against his promises though. Obama never promised to legalize pot. Trump said that it was an issue to leave to the individual states.

This reminds me of this interview I just saw: https://youtu.be/BOa67_D9fcs

Trump's critics are great at saying he's against all sorts of thing but have a hard time giving specific examples of how. This is MSM talking.

Weed and all other unnecessary drugs should be banned because they dumb people down

You don't get to decide that. Keep your fascism to yourself.

So if you believe God created the world why did he create weed to have the health benefit it does?

If you don't need it to help with some health problem you have, you shouldn't use it. Recreational use is not good.

Care to explain why? Without relying on baseless religious dogma

Because it destroys people's lives, like any other drug, when used recreationally. Once you use it for long enough, you cannot stop yourself. Just like alcohol...

Anything in excess can cause problems, sure. You can die from drinking too much water, and nothing is more crucial to maintaining life itself.

Maybe we should ban water too?

How many people's lives have been destroyed by recreational water use? (and I don't mean drowning)

define recreational

Use for the purpose of getting high, not for a medical purpose.

I would say little to no people have had their lives destroyed by recreational use of water or cannabis.

You've really circumvented my point that excess is the issue. If you want to play that way, I would ask- how many people have had their lives ruined by taking one puff recreationally?

Drugs don't destroy people's lives, people destroy people's lives. Weed is just a plant that grows out of the ground. You can bake it into food just like cinnamon, thyme, basil, ginger, it's just an herb with health benefits. I guess garlic is a drug, because by medical definition a drug is something used in preparation of, or used as medicine. Better make turmeric illegal for healing inflammation.

Why would you ever ban medicine? Does that even make sense as a rational human being to have something defined as "medicine", per their own definition, as illegal? They can go fuck themselves with a cactus.

Opium derivatives and alcohol are the only legal narcotics. Life is too fucking hard to go through completely sober. Being human is fucking painful. Without help to numb the pain, you can't begin to heal. Opium products don't offer any healing properties, so this is big pharmas choice for control. Must rely 100% on it for numbing, therefor they control you. Alcohol is loaded with empty calories in the form of sugars that lead to excess weight and health problems, which means you need to go to the doctor more often and buy medication more often. The more excess fat you have, the more likely you are to become complacent.

The language of the laws make no logical sense, by definition. The targeting is very obvious to someone who can look at it objectively, without any pre-conditioning or knowledge of what a "marijuana plant" even is.

I was speaking about using weed recreationally, and not for a medical purpose.

I toke daily for 6 years or so, before that it was weekly. I have a stable relationship with my non smoking gf, have friends who do and don't smoke, I hold down a highly demanding job which I excel at.

How exactly is my life ruined by smoking some mary jane?

You are basing your ideas on what the mainstream tell you and not listening to people with real life experiences that don't match that.

People have been smoking weed for longer than Christianity has existed.

I think I have had a change of ideology on this issue, and here is why...

I toke daily for 6 years or so, before that it was weekly. I have a stable relationship with my non smoking gf, have friends who do and don't smoke, I hold down a highly demanding job which I excel at.

I drink daily, before that it was occasionally. I also have a stable, high paying job, have a great relationship with my wife, have friends who both drink and not drink, and I make my own beer in my basement, which is a fun hobby. People tell me that I am an alcoholic sometimes, because I drink every day. So I can see how you feel about my opinions.

You are basing your ideas on what the mainstream tell you and not listening to people with real life experiences that don't match that.

I can honestly say that I was basing my opinions on personal experience of family members who I have seen go down the road of using drugs, and it wasn't pretty. But you know what? You are 100% right. That was all about choice... So I guess that sort of biases me.

I will say that I have come to terms with use of weed as both a medicine and a recreational drug. However, I do think that we should at least place the same restrictions on it that we do any other mind-altering substance. (i.e. smoking and driving)

What it really comes down to is this: do you control your drug use, or does it control you. Just like alcohol, when the latter becomes true, that's when you have a problem and need to take action to change.

At the end of the day, recreational use is self medicating. It's making people feel better. So what's wrong with that? God gave us the beautiful plant.

What right do you have to tell me what I shouldn't do? I'm not hurting anybody, or myself. I don't drink or smoke. I like to eat a cookie in the evenings, watch a movie, and go to bed contemplating the nature of reality. I wake up with no hangover, go to work all all day and repeat. I've been doing this for years and I've never been healthier. It's a plant. Humans have been using cannabis for as long as we've been here. Look up the "endo-canabinoid system". This plant is a gift from God.

Furthermore, my new mantra is that any politician that supports the failed wars on terror and drugs, supported any of the other senseless wars we're in and isn't calling for reform of the financial system is NOT getting my vote, ever again. I'm sick of this bullshit.

Back to complete dictatorships, with a religious overtone then?

MORE POPULAR THAN YOU THINK!! Especially among African nations..

Paul Biya from Cameroon, Denis Nguesso from the Republic of Congo, Joseph Kabila from DRC, Teodoro Nguema from Equatorial Guinea, Isaias Afwerki form Eritrea, Paul Kagame from Uganda.

Christian Dictatorships? Check.

Why don't you move? Go look at the paradise they've created!!

You have zero right to tell people what they can use

Yes I can. Freedom of speech

You are wrong

YOUR GOD CREATED THE PLANT.

Ya you can say it but you can't make anyone live a certain way just because you disagree with it. Maybe u should stop following a hypcocritcal religion and focus on yourself instead of telling others how to live

You have no freedom of speech if you have a registered SSN with UNITED STATES OF AMERICA, which is a corporate llc based in Puerto Rico. You are by definition, property, and there are no rights for property. Only those born in the US with a certificate of live birth in a registered county with no social security number may have the protection of the constitution. You can even take it all the way to the Supreme Court if you'd like, but their is a court above them, the Supreme Court of Pennsylvania, that does not follow the laws of the land. The US Supreme Court is the "highest court in the land", but not the people. All they can do is kick you off of their land, because the Vatican owns it.

The only people who can grant you right to free speech are your fellow citizens. The government is not there for you and will NOT protect you, unless it is to promote the agenda of the Company. Any rhetoric going against the direction of the company will result in silencing.

I don't care what you think. I should be able to make that choice. Also your God made the fucking plant.

If you want to meet God, take 7 grams of mushrooms, or 60mg of DMT, or two tabs of LSD.

Ugh, i'm going to my apartment in New York this weekend to relax, but if no one does it by the time I get back for work on Monday, I'll start a Change.org petition that simply states:

We the undersigned will vote Democrat across the board in every upcoming election, major or minor, if this current administration cracks down on marijuana in any way."

Trump is just that backwards shit in your family that thinks his drinking, or in this case his coke habit, is somehow morally superior to your hippie drug.

Do it. I'm nonpartisan now, but I fucking hate this guy regardless of his "party". I'll vote anything to ruin his day, even mandatory enemas.

Well, it's not illegal... that's a start.

Can you make a non partisan one? I cannot vote democrat as i cannot forgive the DNC for how they handled the primaries... they are just as corrupt as the GOP...

I would sign

He said (not him , but Spicer) that he will LEAVE IT UP TO STATES.

"[...] I do believe that you'll see greater enforcement of it [marijuana]," Spicer said during Thursday briefing, responding to a question regarding the state-federal conflict of marijuana laws.

http://www.businessinsider.de/spicer-says-justice-department-will-enforce-weed-laws-under-trump-2017-2?r=US&IR=T

I'm hopeful, as with his position on torture, that he will be able to keep his personal feelings separate from policy.

He did say greater enforcement of it though. Plus whatever spicer says is what he was told to say by the trump administration..

It depends what they mean by greater enforcement. I mean alcohol and tobacco are heavily enforced and regulated (age restriction, taxes, a federal police force designed around the two along with firearms). If the feds allow states unhindered choice for MJ and only ensure that the focus is on maintaining it like other legal vices I'm OK. If they go the hard nose route, well that's never worked.

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The difference being that Trump said during his campaign that he would leave legalization up to the states.

True.

And yet, ironically, he is perhaps the least hypocritical president on the issue in my lifetime.

He said one thing, and is now backtracking and saying his administration is going to be harder on stage laws...how is that not hypocritical?

https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/564x/90/e4/b8/90e4b862b62d1aa5d47cb2758677dae3.jpg

What's your point? Obama was harsher on the war on pot than Bush, Obama was a hypocrite just like Bush, just like Bill, just like George, etc. That doesn't prove that Trump isn't also a hypocrite.

No, let's look at what hypocrite means.

Hypocrite:

1: a person who puts on a false appearance of virtue or religion

2: a person who acts in contradiction to his or her stated beliefs or feelings

Now, in the first sense, maybe. He acts religious and perhaps isn't all that much.

But in the second sense, he does not consume drugs; and therefore is not. And this is the relevant sense for this discussion.

2: a person who acts in contradiction to his or her stated beliefs or feelings

Right there, you moron. He STATED his BELIEF that legalization is up to the states, he is now CONTRADICTING himself and saying Federal government is going to step in.

Which makes him less of a hypocrite than any other president in my lifetime.

You're an idiot.

You can't tell the difference between a lie and a hypocrite. And don't know which of us is an idiot.

Please show a video of Trump saying he will crack down on pot... You can not. Spicer is not Trump in a costume. Trump is the boss, not Spicer.

If anything we should be calling our congressmen and senators and tell them to take pot off the scheduled substance list so that it can become a states law issue only...

you need to look up the definition of the world hypocritical.

Hypocritical is being a pothead and sending the feds to raid dispensaries.

Hypocritical is saying you're going to do one thing and doing the opposite

A person who engages in the same behaviors he condemns others for.

And you know this how? Because he said so? You mean like he said he'd try Hillary? Or drain the swamp? I could go on...

Why didn't you speak about all the promises he kept?

Oh, because you are some random internet user who is full of lies.

Why don't you do so in an attempt to refute me? Oh because you're some idiot that can't think for themselves enough to figure out this would be a proper way to argue your point.

Hypocritical is being a pothead and sending the feds to raid dispensaries. Trump has never used drugs.

A. Yes you are right, except Obama is not a pothead

B. I was not aware that you are best friends with Donald Trump and know that he has never used drugs in his life. More like you are a sheep that believes every word that comes out of his golden mouth while you suckle on his old balls.

"more enforcement" is being left to wild interpretation...it could simply mean more regulation, like tobacco and alcohol have right now

By Roger Stone December 10, 2016 NewsWithViews.com

One of the most controversial decisions a President Trump will have to make is whether to continue the federal stand-down by the us Justice department in which DOJ does not enforce federal marijuana laws where they contradict state laws legalizing the legal use and sale of marijuana in the 37 states where it is currently legal in some form. Although he has a long standing personal opposition to drug use Trump has also expressed support for the medicinal use of marijuana in the states where it is legal.

Canceling the order by Obama attorney general Eric Holder to stand down on Marijuana would cause a major dislocation in multiple states that are currently budgeting millions in state revenue from the taxation of marijuana and un-employing hundreds of thousands of people currently working in an industry legalized by the states. I would urge President-Elect Trump to view this as a business man; U.S. government cannot turn back the clock on federal marijuana law enforcement. http://www.newswithviews.com/Stone/roger106.htm

He should take Stone's advice. Too bad the left had so much hate for Stone/Mantaforte, this is where their influence would have helped.

Trump is completely wrong on this, medical and recreational marijuana should be legal country wide. Cut cash flow to cartels, create thousands of new jobs, and billions in tax revenue, just look at CO.

Yeah but then prison unions, pharma and police will actually have to work.

They will lose money so they lobby against it.

We will never solve our problems with Mexico until cannabis is normalized in the US and hard drug users are rehabilitated. As a Christian, it really bothers me that most religious people hate cannabis but are perfectly fine taking big pharma's drugs.

There's even theories that Jesus' oil he used on people was actually a early hash tincture.

Ask Willie Nelson if it's addictive.

Ask an obese person if food is addictive.

You mean the guy who almost died from his alcoholism but switched to pot and is now 105?

I don't think the stand-down vs. the states on pot should be rescinded. But, speaking just for myself, I would note that marijuana was great for me until it became horrible for me. People say it's not addictive, but it certainly was addictive for me and remains so. If I have it, I smoke it.

On the other hand, I would not have the broad worldview I have today without it (I don't think--who can say for sure?).

The bigger deal that nobody discusses is how hemp is like a super-plant for making pretty much any kind of product from building foundations to clothes to paper, and it's completely organic and will decompose naturally in earth or water over time.

The true battle may not be against pot, but hemp.

The battle against hemp is a huge portion of the opposition. So many industries fear what hemp can provide as a replacement to current products. Paper, lubricants, rope, textiles, etc...

I realize your comment on the addictiveness of weed is anecdotal, I think you may be referring to 'habit forming' rather than addictive. There are no physical withdraw symptoms to stopping marijuana. Some mental dependences, sure, but nothing like trying to fight true alcoholism or a heroin addiction.

More private prisons = we need more slaves!

I wonder what kind of labor those slaves might do, besides undercut the local economy with unfair wages...

Hmm... maybe construction...

Think about those private prison profits. They fill a cell get cash. Also the pharma companies are in on it too. The more prisoners they have the more medicine they need. Who do you think purchases a ton of drugs directly from Pharma? Prisons do.

Who do you think purchases a ton of drugs directly from Pharma? Prisons do.

Can confirm.

I know in Arizona they work at one of the large egg producing farms. The women's jail has call center positions.

Great people do!

This doesn't make any sense to me because if the constitution is "silent" on the legislation of pot and Trump says for states to decide on things such as the gender neutral bathroom situation why can't states decide based off of research whether or not it should be allowed recreational?

It's starting to look a little crooked in the White House

Starting? What gave it away? The corporate heads appointed to government positions? The fact that we elected a literal corporate oligarch to office? The constant back tracking on campaign promises? Which part?

I support Trump and believe he will do great things for our country. As for this though, I do not agree with him. It appears that big Pharma is more powerful than the president. Although this may be a good thing and allow me to explain. If marijuana gets legalized on a federal level then it will become commercialized like the tobacco industry. Companies like Marlboro and Camel will manufacture the process and sale of joints and chemicals will be pumped in to the cannabis just like they are pumped into tobacco.

Even though I disagree with Trump on his stance, I see this as a sort of win for the marijuana community. We've been smoking illegally for years and for just as long we've been smoking safely. I don't believe we would be able to say the same if marijuana becomes commercialized like tobacco.

Yes business would boom but that is what I fear. With weed sales legally through the roof there is no way that corporate greed isn't going to try and take over which means masa producing joints filled with not only weed but weed processed with chemicals.

In one hand this would help the economy but on the other the quality and harmlessness of weed would decrease drastically.

Next on the list will be kratom. It sickens me.

Keaton's pretty tight and non addictive. That's pretty sad they're banning it.

As a person who is addicted to weed I'm here to say that the weed is not addictive claim is bullshit.

Weed is very psychologically addictive, very very psychologically addictive.

Chemically addictive like hard drugs? No, but addictive as hell nonetheless.

I'm addicted to responding to irrational posts, but I sometimes use discipline and constraint to break the cycle.

However, when I read posts like these I relapse not because I am an asshole, but because of the substance.

It's your posts fault that I'm responding in such a dick way.

TIL dopamine addiction doesn't exist, and nobody is addicted to pornography either.

Wait a minute.

It is a bit strange that you would choose to argue that marijuana is addictive on a post subject dedicated to Trump and his administration cracking down on marijuana.

Perhaps you're just wanting to converse the thought you expressed, but I hope you understand that it comes across as you defending the decision because it is "psychologically addictive".

but I thought Republicans wanted to leave things up to the states to decide...

How is this a conspiracy?

Ehem. I told you

My fiance is a 'good person', perhaps the best I've ever known. She smokes cannabis to control her epilepsy and has weaned herself off several highly dangerous pharmaceuticals in the process.

If Trump tries to crack down on this here in Oregon there will be an open revolt and I'll be right in the front of it.

Pre legalization in Washington meant armed govt thugs shutting you down and taking your profits whenever they wanted. That's what's gonna return if we go back to the dispensary only model.

Sensationalist title and an incorrect analysis of Spicer's speech. How can there be a worthwhile discussion of the topic if you incorrectly recount what was said? Congrats on getting some karma and a bunch of comments. This is purposefully inflammatory to illicit responses. Your efforts are transparent.

"I think that's a question for the Department of Justice — I do believe that you'll see greater enforcement of it"

This is what he said.

Nowhere in your post did you address one word Spicer actually said.

I'm not at all mad, I was pointing out a major flaw in your argument so that we could begin a discussion, where you could provide a rebuttal that had the opportunity to convince me of any potential misconceptions I may have.

I couldn't care less about what Trump said in this single particular instance, as the whole marijuana rhetoric on this sub has been fueled directly by Spicer's speech, which is now being used as a tool to push discourse.

Quote:

"I think that's a question for the Department of Justice — I do believe that you'll see greater enforcement of it"

And thank God for that. They've said in the past they have bigger problems to deal with than pot.

The important thing to notice is the White House recognition of medical marijuana as a valid form of treatment for certain conditions

Because if you make it legal This will happen.

I eat it.

Trumps criteria $$$$$$$$. Nothing else matters.

Yes, but it would take big $ from Pharma. Bribery to have whole $ pie with dangerous opioids as alternative by prescription with malice. Also there big $ to make torturing ppl for petty crimes with long sentences in private prisons. They already paid their bribes as well.

idiocracy, delusionocracy, conspritocracy

Weed is the currency of illegal criminal migrants. Ban it all.

No it fucking isnt. Most weed is grown from within your borders. Theyres probably a grow op on your street right infront of you, jack ass. Cannabis is a medicine fucking respect it

Most weed is grown from within your borders.

By criminals

Theyres probably a grow op on your street right infront of you, jack ass.

Yes, run by criminal migrants.

Cannabis is a medicine fucking respect it

Respect our laws.

Fucking useless hippies.

Be kind. I'm 60+ and was about to spark one up.

How can a billionaire be persuaded with a few million dollars?

Suuuuure.

https://www.reddit.com/r/The_Donald/comments/5vjpg8/pot_matters_to_president_trump_he_wants_to_help/

I'ma leave this here..

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HE's against federal legalization. All for state legislation and federal medical use.

Generally speaking, the President is against creating any federalized legalization. Same with a few other things "leave it to the states" .

I wouldn't be too worried about it. Spicer can't stand there and say we're enforcing the shit out of immigration law on principle while being meh on pot. They don't actually have to be consistent here, it's enough just to say it. Wait for a real change in policy as implemented. I don't think the odds are very high, 90% of people in the DOJ and DEA know pot is not harmful the way opioids are.

I believe he may be forcing the states to acknowledge that maybe, we don't want the federal govt to have control over their individual rights. The way we have allowed the fed to become an overlording entity is ridiculous. Same with trans rights, it should be implemented by every state, instead of a federal law... in a civilized society, it would be a non-issue.. yet, there are some states that would rather drag transpeople behind pickups than allow them to pee next to them. good news is, people would either work to change the laws, THERE, where the knowledge is needed, OR they would move. The state that continues to be treacherous will show that in its people, its economy and its govt officials. the states must have control over the fed, not the other way around.

True, But... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PWIQhDbs1g8

Use for the purpose of getting high, not for a medical purpose.

No it fucking isnt. Most weed is grown from within your borders. Theyres probably a grow op on your street right infront of you, jack ass. Cannabis is a medicine fucking respect it

Tell that to every comedian I work with every night.