Maybe just to prevent other problems that come with harboring refugees, look at Sweden

Helps when you don't look at things through a Republican/ Democrat paradigm

Why do you assume there is profit? Why can't Trump just want to not have crime skyrocket like Sweden, Germany and France. The statistics are pretty clear, unless you get your information from mainstream news outlets.

You sound too biased against Trump as a person to see there is a correlation between refugee influx and the rise in crime. The connection is clearly there.

Anyone aware of globalism, NWO or which leaders are endorsing immigration right understand the motives of the pro-immigration movement. The intent is so create hostility and divide the populace for greater control. These people oppose Trump and Putin - I wonder why.

You clearly haven't though some of these things through if you both shocked at conspiratorial ideas about climate change in a conspiracy sub, or have trouble understanding that the situation in Syria was manufactured to create a refugee crisis.

I oppose Hillary more than I'm for Trump, and I have a very good understanding of global politics... I do not trust people in his cabinet. I do not like him as a person. I do think he wants to do the right thing though. And like i said, the crime statistics do not lie. The people who oppose him are much more dangerous than he is. They are murdering pedo sociopaths.

He is a 70 something year old billionaire already and has no profit motive for not allowing refugees. This is a situation where occams razor comes into play.

I wasn't calling you that... the world leaders who oppose him are.

The policies of previous Presidents have fueled attacks, as evidenced by the attacks happening before Trump took office. And the attacks from our own citizens are by people who sympathize with ISIS, based partly on those policies - which Trump opposes.

Trump is obviously in favor of isolationism and not getting involved in these countries in the first place. He doesn't want to take them over like Bush, Clinton and Obama did... I don't think it can get worse with ISIS, but we can do what we must to stop the flow of refugees so that we can try to find better solutions.

Besides any of that, ISIS is a CIA creation, as was Al Qaeda... sure there are 'true believers', but they are were all funded by the US and it's allies - as Rep. Tulsi Gabbard has been trying to alert us to.

I agree about Saudi Arabia though... and as I said, I do believe there are bad people who are trying to influence him. The motives of Saudi Arabia Wahhabists and Israeli Mossad are much more obvious to people in this sub than other places.

My question is why are they really so supportive of this ban? What is the real motive, as it obviously won't prevent what it claims to exist for.

So, vetting doesn't work?

terrorists that have attacked our country were angry citizens and have been here for years.

Angry citizens didn't bring down the twin towers, attack the Pentagon and kill people with a plane in Shanksville.

Okay with that logic tell me why Saudi Arabia isn't on Trump's list?

Seems you haven't been keeping up? The hijackers wouldn't make it in now. The vetting has improved. Saudi Arabia was used as a front because it's citizens have a reputation for not overstaying visas and spending a lot of cash. What you seem to not understand is some countries have no database and limited capabilities to verify its citizens.

Executive Order Protecting The Nation From Foreign Terrorist Entry Into The United States

15 of the 19 highjackers were Saudis. Not only that but under the Obama administration it was leaked the the Saudi government knew of the attack ahead of time.

The hijackers came through SA to avoid detection BECAUSE the USA would have stopped them from coming from countries that were suspected of harboring terrorists. That alone shows the need for improve vetting.

Given that information, we haven't even had a major attack from ANYONE from any of the countries listed in the travel ban.

That's why terrorists from Saudi Arabia were chosen. If your country can't verify who you are you shouldn't be coming to the USA. Did you even read the executive order?

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The 15 were Saudi Arabian citizens.

Yes, Osama SELECTED Saudi Arabia terrorists BECAUSE they would most likely be allowed entry.

what extreme vetting is going to stop a current American citizen

Vetting is vetting. The FBI and homeland security, etc handle terrorism in the USA. Why mix two separate issues together?

Btw if "extreme vetting" means questioning people who look like they are of the Muslim faith, then we're turning our backs on the constitution and everything this country stands for.

More like this. If you cannot identify your citizens they won't be coming to the USA. Sound policy.

Trump was wrong about banning all Muslims. Now that his policy is based on the countries that are unable to identify its citizens you want to say he's banning Muslims. You are spouting fake news.

Executive Order Protecting The Nation From Foreign Terrorist Entry Into The United States

Maybe you misunderstood the opportunity he had while campaigning? It's called having a bully pulpit and it allowed him advance policies that have been stagnant and without resolution for a long, long time.

You don't have to "buy" it. A candidate for POTUS doesn't have the same access to who wants to harm our country as the POTUS. Do you think he doesn't now know 30% of the FBI caseload is spent on refugees who might be terrorists? Of course he didn't know then what countries can and cannot identify its citizens. The briefings allowed him to identify specifics.

ISIS has been drowning people in cages, killing people with chainsaws, raping and making slaves out of its captors, slitting throats, burning people and blowing things up. If any of these battle hardened loonies gets put in our midst we will suffer greatly.

Trump is obviously just a puppet.

So obvious you have no words to describe the truth behind this claim?

I don't believe ISIS is a thread to our country in the slightest.

The original definition of "belief" was "wish". Astounding claim.

I mean their videos look pretty staged to me to be honest.

To be "honest" you'd need to be say you haven't actually researched the subject.

There is a war, but it ain't ISIS. It's war against billionaires.

Billionaires will always fight over resources. We can't do much about that. ISIS can be contained and muted.

he's the first president I've seen to be Kremlin's puppet.

And your evidence is stunning!

I haven't done my research.

Saying ISIS stages killings means you haven't. True.

Let me ask you, did you come to /r/conspiracy before or after Hillary's emails?

Before.

It's not my evidence brother it's the intelligence community's evidence.

The way this usually works is some additional favorite evidence is copy and pasted.

I say building 7 was brought down by controlled demolition and point to 2.25 seconds of free fall.

I say Clinton lied when she stated that “17 intelligence agencies have confirmed that Russia is behind the email hacks” and point to the dhs statement that shows it hasn't"confirmed" anything or even include "confirmed" in the doc.

Have you seen the videos?

Parts of vids leading up to the slaughter. Mostly pics though.

something is going on.

Still waiting. With each passing day your hollow claims grow more hollow. Rooskies!

A Putin puppet would cancel the keystone pipeline to help dear Vlad keep his oil prices at the maximum price.

A Putin puppet would call for a reduction in nuclear arms so Putin could spend more money on infrastructure.

do you trust a man like Trump?

Trump is a good man. A decent human being who loves his country and people.

Well these things do happen. Peace and vetting!

vetting will do nothing to prevent it

Crime prevention through identity confirmation is old as time.

Overall the world is more peaceful than it has ever been.

Rejoice!

First you're making a really broad statement about climate change. Don't conflate climate change and man-made climate change. The Earth warms and cools over cycles of time and this is a FACT. The WAR ON climate change is based on looking at a short span of time... and 97% of scientists agreeing on man-made climate change is a lie. Refute the facts in these videos if you disagree.

Why Would People Lie About Climate Change? https://youtu.be/iQV3i95qzCM

Lies, Damned Lies, and Global Warming Statistics https://youtu.be/lQqPQ0i_fl0

Climate Change is Unfalsifiable Woo-Woo Pseudoscience https://youtu.be/huKY5DzrcLI

The next facts you're ignoring are that refugees increase crime. The refugee crisis was manufactured in the first place by a US-lead regime change in Syria... There are innocent refugees of course, but terrorism has increased in Europe as a direct result of this. Just yesterday CNN cut the feed when the facts were presented.

https://youtu.be/Rb_DKtUULZ8

We all know that when a republican claims to not believe in climate change, they're lying. They have big oil and coal's money in their back pocket and their motive is to spread lies so people keep supporting oil and coal.

EM radiation caused from nuclear power and massive amounts of cellular and wireless networks is a much more likely culprit for global warming than CO2. These are the kind of arguments that are being suppressed.

And for the record, Hillary received more than twice as much money from the fossil fuels industry as Trump.

Similarly, I believe there is a hidden motive for this travel ban republicans keep supporting. They KNOW the majority of terrorist attacks come internally from American citizens, so the ban will essentially do nothing to prevent them.

We know that Obama lost Sarin gas in the middle east and left uranium irradiated weapons there as well. We know he bombed 5 of the 7 countries from the initial ban. This means that there are quite likely many millions of people in these countries who would like to have revenge on the US government by attacking its people. A temporary travel ban is therefore a sane and rational step for Trump to take.

I think he ment that EM radiation is a much more likely culprit to be increasing manmade warming.

Also why not judge the actions of America as a whole not just driven through the public actions of the president?

It's a political tactic. The constant talking about the "bad immigrants" being responsible for all the loss of jobs and crime is specifically to create an enemy and unite the base. And it worked for Trump.

Do you believe the left uses their immigration beliefs as a political tactic as well?

There are only a few politicians I believe to be sincere - that's why people liked Sanders. The left uses it as well. What's happening now that is terrible is that the other political side is the enemy. I'm not that old, but I feel like I've never seen it so polarized.

Ya the left and right have most people in the palm of their hand, having them believe only what they say. I've lost faith in Bernie since the race . He has no problem talking to the media now about how we should resist trump, dividing bullshit. Ik that's what he supposed to do as a dem but playing that game is below what he stands for imo.

Chemtrails are causing the warming. Oil is nowhere near as limited in supply as has been portrayed. It's part of your enslavement.

"You gotta follow the money. What kind of profit is there to be made with warming the earth through chemtrails? None whatsoever."

Carbon tax. Not to mention the fear and division that is created due to climate change.