They're all puppet rulers

Because there aren't any.

/r Politics is that way --- >

basically the T_D folks are all

"I don't see anything here"

"lolol all the MSM is reporting on it, gotta be ignored" 100% pure logic.

😂😂😂😂 more like r/propaganda

If you dont like it why do you keep posting here in /r/conspiracy.

Tear down the wall!

Yeah... you are right... there aren't literally 100 topics about this every fuckin' day for the last 6 months... I think you might be onto something here! Be safe! The boogie men are gonna come for you!

Actually lots of people just like yourself post something just like this, but since you can go to 99% of Reddit and all of MSM to hear about it, why do you expect it to be a focus here?

r/conspiracy is focused on the truth that the mainstream is trying to hide. Who's hiding the supposed Trump/Russia ties?

Trump/Russia

I'm focused on the truth that the Trump administration is trying to hide. By lying about Russia.

I mean, several of his cabinet have admitted to contacts with Russian agents after previously denying it. So they answer to your "who's hiding Trump/Russia ties" is "the Trump administration".

So you believe Green Screen CNN is telling us the truth? Maybe we should invite them for an AMA on the sub since they're so into conspiracies.

I don't believe it because CNN reported it. I believe it because it's patently obvious.

I think that might be why CNN reported it, too - one of the reasons, anyway. On account of how patently obvious it is.

LOL at attacking the source, and not the substance.

right-wing media, the POTUS, many members of he exectuive branch, seemingly some of the GOP in congress, and atleast parts of the FBI to name a few.

The conspiracy is -- why is the MSM pushing this russian collusion narrative with Trump where there has been absolute ZERO proof?

This post is a part of that narrative.

ZERO proof

Trump's secret server dedicated solely to communicating with Alfa bank.

Several of Trump's staff have been caught lying about Russian contacts.

Stone admitted today to being in contact with the Russian hackers. Only after the Twitter DMs were found proving that contact, however.

Keep sticking your head in the sand though!

Keep sticking your head in the sand though!

His ass. His head is in his ass.

then what do we talk about here? T_D got other side covered and politics got all the Russia stuff.

we should just stop talking about politics here but it's not gonna happen.

Good point, this is just a safe another safe space the the donald

T_D is one subreddit. Russian hacking has pretty much the rest. I'm not against talking politics in conjunction with an actually suppressed truth.

T_D's pretty loud, I mean, is there really a point of complaining about the contents here like y'all doing..

why not just let it be, people can talk about what they want to talk about, there's no point of complain about it.

Talking about suppressed truth, T_D folk are actively trying to suppress the Russia narrative which some people believe are real, that's suppressing.

T_D is not louder than the entire rest of the site and their algorithms, nor have they managed to excel beyond CNN's status in visibility. Really..this is simple. This isn't a legitimate focus any more than weapons of mass destruction were. MSM liked that one too.

Right. It never happens. Uh huh.

Wikipedia. Say no more.

So far from what I have seen there has never been any reliable information presented to the public validating the "Russians" theory. True, a has been MI5 agent wrote a report up based on hearsay and rumors found around Moscow (see Alexander Nekrassov's comments on the report). The other evidence presented was a report by intelligence agencies which pretty much said "trust us, we totally know it was Russians". That's it.

To complicate matters, we now know that the CIA can fake Russian data-hacking. We also know they lost control of their hacking tools also. What this all means is that even if the Russians did hack US digital infrastructure we can never be sure. It's entirely possible it was the CIA or any number of other people who got their hands on compromised CIA hacking tools.

In my opinion the Russian narrative is a creation designed to generate hostility with Russia and interfere with Presidential relations with the second largest nuclear power on earth.

Then why is the Trump administration lying constantly about Russia?

Who is even in the Trump administration at this time eludes me. The transition is obviously being sabotaged.

google shit works

https://www.whitehouse.gov/administration/president-trump

You totally missed my point then.

Who is even in the Trump administration at this time eludes me. The transition is obviously being sabotaged.

I can name two who lied about it (Russia) and another who didn't even make it to election day (Flynn, Sessions, Manafort). The GOP has full control of the legislature, if this administration knew what it was doing at this point it would be shoring up any loose ends as far as who to appoint and nominate and hire to the 3k+ bureaucracy controlled by the executive branch. The GOP will rubber stamp just about anyone for them. The only people sabotaging it is the administration themselves.

The transition is obviously being sabotaged.

Self sabotaged.

Take a break, you're not thinking, clearly.

Tell him comrade. Make Russia great again.

I know i'm late to the party, but I want to ask you. The most common argument for the far left about Trump is that he is part of the establishment, yet the establishment keeps trying to pain Trump as a Russian and corrupt place president. So if he is still part of the PTB plan, why are they trying so hard to paint him as conspiring with the "red scare"?

any reliable information presented

but pizza had mountains of reliable info right? some days the entire front page was nothing but pizza. Reliable info isn't a standard in this sub at all so lets not pretend it is.

There is mountains of evidence to support the theory of child sex trafficking rings in Washington. Newpapers document this activity going back to the 1970's. Arrests have been made, and likely more will follow. If you're selectively choosing to ignore all of that I can't help you I'm afraid.

Ya but that evidence you are talking has zero to do with the pizza players.

PG8 is not about CPP any longer. It's grown far beyond that.

It didn't grow the cult followers changed their focus to actual pedos in the real world because PG was complete nonsense.

Well, it's unfortunate you feel that way. I disagree with your opinion but you are certainly entitled to it.

Your point is as great as your username. +1

you really think we're dumb enough to fall for that cia script?

Law enforcement.

because we don't give a fuck

If Hillary got elected do you think we'd be having a debate about all the money she received from Saudi Arabia? or Quatar? or Podesta's ties to Russia? No. This whole Russia Russia Russia narrative is being driven for the sole purpose of undermining our president.

Here are a few facts for you though. Russia didn't hack our election. The DNC leaks were given to Wikileaks by a DNC insider who met with a go between in Washington D.C.

The Podesta leaks were from John Podesta being a complete fucking idiot and falling for a phishing scam.

Now, we know the CIA can make it look like the Russians. Perhaps, Hillary and Co, knowing full well they were not going to win the election, perhaps they laid the groundwork in place so they could try and impeach Trump in the future.

Yeah, you got a server in Trump tower with ties to a Russian bank, a server that was set up by Evan McMullins wife.

And then we have the Washington Post, a newspaper whose owner has a multi million dollar contract with the CIA, claiming an unnamed CIA insider has confirmed the alleged Russian ties with Trump.

Quite honestly it just all seems like such bullshit. A lot of people are pissed that Trump won and Clinton lost. A lot of people lost a fuck ton of money betting on Clinton, and now the powers that be are using the media, one of their last weapons against us, to try and get an uninformed populace to undermine our president.

then you stop bringing up Russia. Clinton is old news and Russia is fake news.

OP: The New Yorker and NYT are both bought and paid for, used to disseminate false information on behalf of the Establishment. If you think pedogate and all leaked emails are useless, you may not have read the facts in the correct manner. Your NY sources couldn't be more corrupt. What's next, WSJ was right about Pewdz? Come now, you're either more intelligent than this or yourself and your sources may find more success in the Clinton subreddit, as you've clearly no need for skeptical minds based on your behavior in this thread. I wish you well in your quest for "the truth".

FROM YOUR SOURCE: "The agency is what is known in Russia as a “troll farm,” a nickname given to outfits that operate armies of sock-puppet social-media accounts, in order to create the illusion of a rabid grass-roots movement." Right, okay, Putin told me to take up the Kekistani flag.

How are trump's ties to russia fake news?

It's sensationalism. People elected Trump because we don't want a war with Russia. We want Trump to have good relations with Russia. We want America to have good relations with Russia.

The cold war was a mistake. Let's end the McCarthyism already.

I never imagined the day when /r/conspiracy would be praising Putin!

PS, working with Russian hackers to subvert the US elections is not a good way to get "good relations". I mean, I'm sure Russia would love that. But I'm not willing to burn our own country just to kiss Russia's ass.

I mean, do you want to have good relations with Saudi Arabia and North Korea, too? Collude in secret with them for business purposes? Exactly what amount of treason do you support in the name of making hostile countries happy?

Yar har har, all hail putin, yeh fucking right.

How about talking about the shift in aggression towards China, the lack of support for DAPL, especially after breaking campaign promises like people thought he wouldn't? Get real.

Trump's a bad president. Oh gee, who woulda thunk? Good! Fingerfuck that gaping asshole known as the executive branch. Fingerfuck the whole federal government while we're at it. The states too. Fuck those choad necked shitbeaters.

Stop trying to turn the public's overwhelming anger away from the whole and towards one unfortunate patsy. People will remember Trump with contempt for millenia. Seize the moment of today to celebrate the death of the Empire by building your own resilient local communities.

There's a reason local government is by far the most effective for the citizens.

PS, working with Russian hackers to subvert the US elections

James Clapper clearly stated that they found zero evidence of collusion between Russian hackers and the Trump campaign. Even if there was hacking on Trumps behalf (which there most likely wasn't) it was not done at the behest of President Trump.

James Clapper

You mean the James Clapper who, under oath, told Congress that the NSA doesn't collect information on Americans?

God damn! Keep this up. These Trumpbots are running out of excuses.

"Im not pissed that clinton won.." O.o

Gold level comment. Sorry I'm poor :(

thats ok. Reddit gold is a scam. Let the fucking admins pay for their servers themselves.

Also a Gold worthy comment !

You woke AF, my brother.

the media has a narrative that they are pushing. They are pushing that narrative for a reason. Its not my fault if you believe the narrative they are pushing.

The FBI killed MLK Jr. Also, a bajillion other terrible things.

So yeh. Fuck those fuckcakes.

Intelligence agencies cannot be trusted. Period. The end.

They have lied to us before & later been caught in the lies without facing any repercussions whatsoever.

Then why have so many Trump cabinet members been caught lying about contact with Russians? Why does Trump have a secret server communicating directly, and only, with Alfa (the Russian bank)?

Because they have to due to the media pushing this Cold War era Russian propaganda angle to the public. In reality, plenty of businessmen and politicians have at least some contacts in Russia. The difference is, if Hillary were in office right now, there wouldn't be a ridiculous "Russian spy" witchhunt calling their Uranium deals or the Podesta brothers' Russian ties into question.

Personally, I don't really see a problem with improving Russian relations and allowing more commerce to be conducted between the two super powers. If anyone knows a good reason why that's bad for anyone besides the military-industrial complex, then I'd really be interested to hear it. But so far, it seems like the MSM is pushing for war with their rhetoric.

Improving relations with Russia is something a president should do.

Lying about conflicts of interest that threaten national security is treason, a violation of the emoluments clause of the constitution, and is treason.

And "but Hillary!" is not a legit excuse for treason. It's entirely irrelevant if Hillary would have done a better or worse job than Trump. I'm sure you have problems with Obama - is it fair for me to say everything Obama did is fine because I think Romney was a worse choice?

Second word and already deflecting to Clinton.

You're missing the more important conspiracy. Why is the MSM pushing the Russian thing when they can't provide hard evidence? There's a power struggle going on between different parts of the shadow government. Each side is trying to smear the other side with false claims, half-truths and working with the MSM networks to spread that info. They're hoping people only focus on their lies or half-baked truths.

Also: if Trump was working with Russia, the CIA would've leaked that info to journalists to take him down. All we have are anonymous sources and unreliable sources.

Who cares what the MSM is pushing? We have a president who is actively engaged in treason with an enemy state, and constantly lying about it. Then getting caught lying about it, only to lie about it more.

Who cares what the MSM is pushing? We have a president who is actively engaged in treason with an enemy state, and constantly lying about it

We care because the MSM is the main source of spreading this shit.

Hard evidence like foreign agent Flynn getting fired for talking to them? Or Sessions perjuring himself to a question that wasn't even asked? Or everyone lying about Kislyak only to be shown actual evidence the next day? As with Nixon, the story results not from the crime, but from the cover-up.

Because if the MSM reports something negative about our Dear Leader it must be ignored. <- Basic gist I'm getting. Oh, also Putin is on our side, it seems.

Are you trying to convince people into believing something ? Or are you trying to convince yourself into believing something you heard or read somewhere?

I love when people like yourself come in here to tell everyone what they should be thinking and doing, especially with the added faux-insult insisting it's what a true/real conspiracy theorist would be doing.

It's very similar to the scripts the talking heads on MSM channels read from, almost verbatim on a daily basis (regardless of which city they're located) as they tell the general populace what/how to think.

Conspiracy theorists are typically spoken of in a derogatory manner (weird, uneducated, etc.), but the furtive insistence we get in line with the Russian narrative is notable because since when does anyone give a single fuck what we think?

The one thing that geneally seems to be lacking in most claims about Trump is evidence.

Almost as if it's some kind of... conspiracy

Is ShareBlue allowed to be obvious?

We've probably had puppet rulers for many years now.

Thing is before trump most of us Conspiracy types were looking to Putin and Russia as the only ones standing up to the new world order agenda. So when they say Trump colluded with Russia it confirms my confirmation bias and has no effect on me. It's simply propaganda for the normies, how is Russian interference more nefarious and sinster then say Israeli? How many dual Russian / American citizens in government? Compare that to dual Israeli / American. I'm simply not afraid of Russia, and welcome a shift in the balance of power on the world stage.

I mean if looking up to an autocrat is somehow a good thing.

We have a puppet ruler and its not Russia's dude.. Omfg. We are still under the rule of the CoG plan enacted after 9/11. It can only be implemented during a time of declared national emergency and every president since has re-signed the declaration.

WAKE THE FUCK UP.

So what exactly was I wrong about?

So, we both agree that the CoG plan was enacted after 9/11, but can you tell me when it ended and we returned to regular governmental operations? No you can't, no one can. That's because we are still under its rule.

And nice job reverting to name calling.. That's the mark of a big man.

Stop acting like its me v you and start thinking us v them.

Well?

No pollen dude. I just want people to realize that yes, trump is a puppet but not for Russia. We have been under the CoG shadow government since 9/11(it wasn't just about the Middle East, 2 birds 1 stone) This is why I left the military.

I'm not leaving this alone.

The whole narrative seems ridiculous to me, probably because of the people who continue to push that narrative. Maybe it's true but I pay it no mind because it's being pushed so hard by so many ridiculous news sources and politicians.

This post is pure, unadulterated xenophobia. Want to know how I know that?

[Also, wtf is with Melanie Trump - she basically qualifies for a perfect sleeper agent]

That's how.

We do not accept your narrative that Russia has influenced our election. The evidence does not indicate that conclusion. All we have is the word of intelligence agencies, and we all know how that has turned out before.

A lot of the MSM narrative is internally inconsistent. For example, China has annexed the entire South China Sea, they barely care. Russia annexes Crimea and it is the end of the world. Iraq has WMDs and we're all going to die. North Korea develops nuclear weapons and there little response. Obama and Clinton rubber stamp Uranium One deal and there is silence. Trump potentially sent spam email to Russia and is KGB agent. https://theintercept.com/2016/11/01/heres-the-problem-with-the-story-connecting-russia-to-donald-trumps-email-server/

MSM has lied so much that there is no point in trusting them at face value. Time and time again they chose to be mouth pieces of the government rather than being critical of the government.

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So what exactly was I wrong about?

r/conspiracy is focused on the truth that the mainstream is trying to hide. Who's hiding the supposed Trump/Russia ties?

The conspiracy is -- why is the MSM pushing this russian collusion narrative with Trump where there has been absolute ZERO proof?

This post is a part of that narrative.

It didn't grow the cult followers changed their focus to actual pedos in the real world because PG was complete nonsense.

Who is even in the Trump administration at this time eludes me. The transition is obviously being sabotaged.

I can name two who lied about it (Russia) and another who didn't even make it to election day (Flynn, Sessions, Manafort). The GOP has full control of the legislature, if this administration knew what it was doing at this point it would be shoring up any loose ends as far as who to appoint and nominate and hire to the 3k+ bureaucracy controlled by the executive branch. The GOP will rubber stamp just about anyone for them. The only people sabotaging it is the administration themselves.