Nowhere else to go with this..

128  2017-03-20 by Metalmilitia3194

Hello conspiracy!

Everywhere else i try to bring this up it gets downvoted to all hell without any rational discussion of the possibilities. Unfortunately this is my personal conjecture.. In other words im guessing.. But i have a reason for presenting it honestly as speculation.

  1. The media in the US (liberal, conservative, and "unbiased" sources) is lying to us. Universally. Spinning the facts and playing off the emotions of the target audience to discourage productive discourse on issues across the board, and to sow discontent and division amongst the masses.

  2. The current conflict with russia (including our current government witch hunt) is a ploy to breathe new life into the cold war(the greatest fear that the "elders" in our administration know) being pushed by BOTH sides.

    2a. This could be for profit of the few (global elite) or could be being set up as an introduction to WW3, which would be far more profitable.

    2b. The main goal could be to cull the booming global population. Nothing does this better than war, and the by products of war (famine and disease)

Unfortunately, like i said i have no sources to cite here (since i believe that all media is pushing one agenda or another) but i figured that this would be the best place to get some quality speculation and discussion from people who are deeper down the rabbit hole than myself.

Tl;dr- we're being fucked from all sides and everyone just wants their private hole for their head in the sand

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Seems like a well thought out post to me. Pretty spot on.

Thank you!

Pretty severe ADHD here so anything more than a paragraph requires a fucking lot of concentration so that my mind doesnt race ahead and get myself lost..

I hear that. Can't decide if reddit is a blessing or a curse to ADD.

Little bit of both.. But.. Then again i view reddit as a snapshot of the collective human psyche.

Reading through reddit is a lot like my adhd.. Lots of thoughts feelings and opinions (some contradictary) developing into an overall shared opinion..

But thats a whooole other subject that could be a thread by itself..

Yeah, that is an interesting way to look at it. Can't say I disagree haha.

The biggest curse.

I totally agree...your completely wrong...which way do I go George?

https://www.newsweek.com/water-fluoridation-linked-higher-adhd-rates-312748

In the past month or two, this sub has had decent chatter on removing fluoride (also search for flouride as common misspelling) .. Seems it gums up the pineal gland.

You are completely correct but the main force behind stopping the cabal are the people. We need to be more vocal nationwide.

Not just nation wide.. We need to start uniting internationally. Take away the patriotism fueled division and stand as a species.

But thank you!

Yes absolutely. World wide unity would mean mega power to the people.

Unfortunately all the religious folks won't unite with the rest, particularly Islam

Or the ones who focus on identity politics.

But we would have to step on a lot of rich people, and they don't like being stepped on.

Yeah, I pretty much agree with everything here.

I'm worried that the MSM is lying even more than we think they are. Hawaiian Senator Tulsi Gabbard just came back from Syria saying that everything we think we know from news reports is wrong: our intervention is flat-out making things worse, we are helping terrorists, the leaders of Syria and Iraq are doing the most to stop terrorism, etc. Many non-western media outlets have come out saying al-Qaeda isn't even real in the way that the MSM is telling us to believe.

We're so insulated from the realities of things on the ground that I don't find it hard to believe that everything we're told is spin. There's that famous quote from Reagan's CIA director that says "We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false."

I think it's possible and likely that our news is routinely taken through corporate and government white washing.

Thank you for summing it up a little more concisely than i could.. I might save this comment so that i can use it to structure my points better.

Al Qaeda aka the CIA database is real

Yes. The world is being juiced for wealth at an untenable rate. We all agree, but have been convinced we don't. The party can only have a few more decades left, at this rate anyway. TPTB will ensure things are ripe for there bloodline here on earth if mars isn't a better option. If they are staying, people have got to go. Period.

We are literally living in N Korea, and just like N Koreans we don't realize it. Just glad you guys on Reddit are here to make me feel not so alone, some people get it.

Do you have a source on Tulsi Gabbard's report? Would love to read it myself

Its on her congressional website.

Reagan's CIA director that says "We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false."

haha great quote. and a scary reality it has become. i recently found tulsi gabbard by the Act shes putting out now, Stop arming terrorists act. As a canadian, i think this is a great act and would definetly help in stopping terrrorism across the world, but really, america/business/zion does not want that.

Only point I wanna make is you bet the government has people studying how to remedy any future population problems. Especially in wake of the massive refugee crisis global warming will cause.

I dont doubt they do have people studying it.

However, a war will still be one of the most effective ways to thin us out. Take a look at WW2, the numbers of casualties, and economic boom parts of the world experienced afterwards. Also take a monent to project the current population if thise casualties had not occured then.

Kill a few hundred million globally and suddenly Theres a lot more to go around and the problem gets put off for a generation or two

Wars aren't being fought this way anymore tho, ppl value life much more than they did in WWII times. Think we'd do another D Day type invasion? No shot. What you have to be scared of is nuclear bombs and how fucking powerful they are nowadays.

You are right the owners of the world are pushing for WW3 we have to hope no or falls for it but the track record doesn't say that we will figure it out this time

Nooope. "We" wont.. Makes me sad.

With that said i just hope i survive it..

I hope you do and all you care about and hope the awake ones start thinking positively and pray to who and what they believe in

Thank you and same to you and yours..

The Corporate Media should be broken up into a Thousand pieces, Their CEO's prosecuted for allowing lies, and have their FCC licenses pulled.

What treasonous lies have they said?

You're correct, of course, but you're just scratching the surface. It's much, much worse than you think -- and also much, much better. Keep digging, keep your head up!

Any chance you can expand on that?

Not asking for detailed sources (unless it's convenient for you) just a few examples of what you mean by both better and worse (not sure how it could get much worse than i think, since i believe that we're well and truly fucked)

Worse:

Cancer is, largely, intentionally inflicted. It's arguably the most profitable way of quietly culling a population -- other than, perhaps, organ harvesting which is also industrialized. The direct medical cost of treating cancer in 2014 was $87.7 billion. About 1.8 million people have died of cancer so far this year, on track for about 9 million total in 2017. This is a holocaust of unimaginable scale. (I actually couldn't find numbers for how many, total, have died of cancer in the history of the world, but it's gotta be over 100 million.) If your child is diagnosed with cancer, and you deny conventional treatment, there's a good chance they will be taken from you and forced to undergo chemotherapy, often a death sentence, even against their own will. Fuck, that's dark.

Better:

Cancer has been largely cured, along with most major illnesses, and the solution is very simple. Not easy, but simple: Concentrated nutrition, cleaning the liver (which, in turn, cleans the blood of all manner of toxins), and specific supplements.

The body, with a little help, can generally clear even stage 4 cancer. And atherosclerosis, type 2 diabetes, heart disease, hepatitis, multiple sclerosis, osteoarthritis, drug addiction, and many others. You're not hearing about this because it involves zero pharmaceuticals, and the media and medical industries are utterly controlled. It would cost the medical industry BILLIONS if this got out into the public consciousness. But now you know.

The Gerson Therapy -- Revised And Updated (Kindle Edition)

Wow! I could hug you.. Didnt expect the well thought out answer (even though thats why i came to this sub initially).

I agree 100% and have been peripherally aware of this for a good bit now (funny enough pot research lead me to that particular rabbit hole)

The only downside of cancer is that it's slow... And that downside is only a downside when the slow, steady, and profitable route becomes sub-optimal. Like we need to cull this shit quick kind of scenario.

The upside of the fast answer(war) is that anyone who survives can be sent home with (as my vietnam vet buddy calls it) "super cancer" and a host of other medical issues, thus restocking the long term financial pantry.

Thanks for the link. Went ahead and bought the kindle edition.

YES! So happy to hear it! :D

Yeah. I just downloaded as many pdfs online as I could about it. Gonna do some serious reading on this.

Isn't this how Steve Jobs died of otherwise treatable cancer? Did he do it wrong? Is that story a lie? What's your take?

I suspect Jobs's "death" was a psyop to discredit alternative cancer therapy. He was supposedly sighted on a beach in Central or South America.

You can add Marijuana to that list too. Especially for rectal cancer.

Don't you think WW3 is already happening. The thing most people tend to forget is that we have social media and so many news sources. We are processing so much information on a daily basis that people are basically skipping through articles where 500+ people died in a car bombing and 300 people died in a suicide attack, etc. I really can't remember the last time I didn't hear about some kind of attack on the news. Add all the deaths from wars and chaos and you'll be surprised about how many people already died in 2017 alone.

I think we're in the preliminary posturing phase.. Once upon a time it was a murder here.. Dead (insert foreign country native) showing up mysteriously there..

These days the scales have stepped up.. We've become more efficient.. I wouldn't say WW3 has started until we have some big name countries taking some clear sides and some declarations being signed.. World super powers openly attacking each other..

I see what you're saying. Worst part about it is, we can't do anything about it.

The MSM and TPTB want us to fear Russia and the weather and also want us to embrace Islam.

Yeah, that's a decent outline of the world.

You are in the right place. I wholeheartedly agree with your assesment of the current political climate/events. It floors me that this is not obvious to more people. And, it scares the hell out of me.

I think it's to steer the attention away from the email releases, and the CIA releases. In all honesty.

That's also very possible. I hope that either the russians are in on it.. Or that those releases are worth "poking the bear" over..

I think you are absolutely correct. I believe the reason we have blatant and rampant corruption is because the curtains are going to be pulled rather soon. We are closing in on 7 billion, and tptb will certainly try to save themselves with every resource at their disposal. It's going to take a mass "awakening" (I hate that word-- wish there were another term) or we are toast. There is a reason the police have been militarized, and made the enemy of the people with things like civil asset forfeiture, tptb do not want the police to identify with the population, otherwise how can you get them to possibly kill their own friends and neighbors.

I feel things are rapidly unraveling at this point. I'll be amazed if we skate through the next year or two without a major... something.

Are you me?

But seriously, you summed up another one of the huge red flags i wanted to include before work and my attention span decided otherwise.. I feel like the whole plate is wobbling and nothing they do at this point can keep it spinning.. Even if tptb come through, almost everyone down the totem pole from them is going to get shafted and they know it if they cant somehow start an eotw/world war style event.

As Howard Beale said it, "We are in a whole lot of trouble!"

Well, I'd hate for anyone to have the same dark thoughts that I carry around all of the time, but this world has that effect I suppose on people that don't fall for the usual trivialities in this modern culture. It's not fun. But I still recall all of the magazines I would pour over as a little kid in my grandparents bathroom with warnings about the inevitable environmental collapse we would soon face barring a rapid and huge change in--- everything. As time went on, these warnings evaporated. I feel much scholarly knowledge is kept from us, or at least not broadcast, instead people have to search all over for the truth. But the people who run think-tanks have it all. They know roughly how much time is left. They have studied every aspect of human nature, and can predict with a lot of accuracy how to handle mass movements. Every field has been examined, because money is no object.

I also feel religion plays a larger role in this than people might think. Many of these people feel they might be fulfilling a biblical role. That's all I'll say for now, or I'll be called an antisemite, and I just don't feel like having that argument tonight.

It's deep and religion is a huge part.

Take comfort in that the dark thoughts are not yours alone, even if the thoughts differ.

I'll PM you sometime maybe so we can delve into this without the worry of misunderstandings that unpopular conjecture can bring.

Sure, thank you. Not always around though. I try to stay away from the computer when the sun comes out. I'd rather garden, and forget about this fucked up world.

Thanks for the heads up.. Dont worry im not clingy, haha.

Enjoy life! Love it and live it to the fullest.

What's sad is that this, as you said, is the only real place you can go to discuss this rationally. It's insane that so many people don't see what you're saying here as being very, very valid.

Shit, shit world we live in...smh

I'm starting to suspect that we're just the percentage that the brainwashing doesnt work on for whatever reason applies to us individually.

A shit world being forced upon the masses.

Well, there are all types in this sub, and certainly not everyone here is screwed on straight, but there seems to be a higher propensity for critical thinkers here than elsewhere on this site.

Critical thinking absolutely!

But i definitely dont discount that it could be other things (incompatible brainwave patters or some such shit)

This is the tinfoil hat place after all! (Mines a ship)

Seriously. Just reading this post and all of these comments is such a breath of fresh air. Thank you.

Thank you, seriously.. This sub needs more casual discussion like this without an obsessive ammount of requiring sources..

The initial root of all conspiracy is the feeling that something isnt right.. Opinions, feelings, and fears can be shared without a documented public opinion to back them up..

I have tried so many times and will continue to. Most of the times it ends with me getting called a trump apologist because even though we agree on some things, i don't change my mind completely. They then say that they're wasting their time, all while accusing this sub of being an echo chamber. I just don't get the logic. But what can you do lo

Beautifully written dude

Thank you!

Yup, glad you have been keeping up! Stay woke!

I try... This was one of my first subs to follow... But i'll be the first to admit that im drowning in a sea of information.. So much is coming out if you know where to look and how to look..

It will consume you! Dig deep, but remember that you have a community to talk to when shit gets heavy.

It's globalists vs.nationalists and once someone understands that it becomes easier to identify the propaganda and tactical movements that are in play

No, it's all about de-legtitimizing Trump so he can't "drain the swamp"

It's only entrenched criminals (and those who take orders from them) who are pushing the Russia thing. We know from wikileaks 6 months ago that it's 100% fake.

They have no choice, if they can't keep him on the back foot 1000s of lifers in the government and media could end up in prison.

I have a really hard time taking the guy seriously since he was originally set up as someone hillary couldnt lose against then did when public backlash against her was at critical mass.

On the flip side our government is so corrupt, that your idea as him as our savior implies that voting means anything at all on that level and isnt just a smoke show to keep us all occupied, AND that trump isn't their "trump card" (please forgive this pun) by giving us someone who seems like a maverik but is entirely under their control.

Heads or tails it's still the same fucking coin...

set up as someone hillary couldnt lose against

That's quite the assumption. Jeb! would have been a much better Washington Generals

voting means anything at all

Again another assumption that's not really backed up by facts.

Voting isn't overtly rigged in most places. You just have to be able to win despite a MSM smear campaign, back stabbing from your own party and against an opponent that has billions of dollars.

Trump is pretty much the only person in the country to whom these things aren't enough to stop him.

Yup, i freely admit that the things im tossing around in this sub are not strongly backed up by sourced facts. I've even stated that these are feelings, hunches.. The first hints of smoke that indicate that there MIGHT be a fire..

The basis of this idea (i cant even call it a hypothesis, it's barely formed and thats why im bouncing it off you guys) is that the party system is a lie and the real power lies above the government. Whichever side won, tptb made out like bandits.

The elecetion.. The voting system.. I believe it could all be smoke and mirrors to keep the populace complacent.

There are studies thay show how "hard" it would be to rig the system... But what stops tptb from rigging those to play the tune they want as well?

Basically what im trying to say is that i'm skeptical of everything. Mainstream television is a lie, and possibly a medium for brainwashing the masses. Subtle suggestions to our societal psyche.

Also if any of that came of confrontational, or as an attack.. It isn't. I repect that idk much about these things and that the sources im shown and information given is questionable, regardless of where. I question everything..

correct my friend, basically the world is in the grip of a global mafia cartel. it can only survive at the moment by working from the shadows. all we need is enough brave souls to shine a light on it. its starting to happen... so strap in for some exciting times.... :D

WW3 won't be allowed to happen.

You would like the No Agenda Show podcast. Two guys from the industry, talking about how the media is fake.

Nah man it's for more important that trans people get to use public restrooms so the nba stops pulling all-star games.

We're not f'ed... but you have to steel your mind against the system designed to keep you occupied with "bread and circus."

Here is Bob Livingston from personalliberty.com:

"Perhaps one of the elite collectivists' most powerful tools in gaining control of the world is their patience. Gradualism can overwhelm the public mind. Almost anything can be changed over time.

They know that such change, if its social structure is to remain hidden and unknown to the general public, requires extended periods of time to slowly and unknowingly seep into the social structure of society. Decades mean nothing to them.

Many of the elite families have worked on the plan for centuries. Their signature trademark was the belief in the "inevitability of gradualness," that their ideas would eventually permeate into both government and private institutions and from there spread out into society in general.

One of the hidden keys of National Socialism, now called "democracy," is that the government wants and promotes opposition but only on spurious issues...

How does one get free from this forced mental slavery?

The first wake-up call is to come to know that there is a system for controlling you. Most of the masses do not want to wake up. The controlled masses are hostile toward reality. They want no discomfort of thought. They are at peace with regimentation unaware.

They are controlled by a system of public education, including colleges and universities. The system is two political parties that are the same except in name. It is the controlled media. It is the medical system. It is fiat or paper money.

The purpose of the system is to control the people, so that most of what we think about and talk about is noise. But there is enough information for those who read to separate fact from fiction. It takes some a few years and others a lifetime.

People mimic the system because they don't have enough information to process or separate fact from fiction or to know reality. The system permanently insulates most people from reality. There is no hope for them unless they seek reality regardless of their inbred convictions.

Unless one escapes the parameters of the system, it will one way or the other distort our perception of reality. And as long as we are mentally encumbered by 'the system,' we are subject to being manipulated against our best interest. Even when we think we are doing 'good.'

The difference between people is how they think. The difference in what people think is what they read. The difference in what they read is how much they read. How much they read is how close to reality they are.

If you let it, your life will be so planned out by the powers that be that you could "live" and die and never know or experience reality."

Agree. Well said. Its a shame you can't converse about this anywhere else.

I'm starting to suspect that we're just the percentage that the brainwashing doesnt work on for whatever reason applies to us individually.

A shit world being forced upon the masses.

Thank you!