This sub has POSSIBLY been compromised
36 2017-03-31 by quackchomp
Again and again and again and again and again, the mods here ONLY tag posts about certain topics in this sub. It's incredible watching what has happened here. There are now mods spamming posts on the sub daily, while commenting on sticky threads ATTEMPTING TO DISCREDIT A CONSPIRACY. One mod makes a sticky trying to discredit the topic, even though the source is arguably the most unreliable source possible at the moment, and another mod acting condescending to users and attempting to discredit the topic as well. Suddenly comments are being deleted nowadays.
SO, has this sub gone from conspiracy haven, to some censored not alt right but kinda alt right sub that tries to discredit its own users in an attempt to maintain a certain narrative. Was this sub not originally about NO CENSORSHIP, DOUBT AGAINST THE GOVERNMENT, ALL CONSPIRACIES WELCOME, QUESTIONING EVERYTHING. And now we're supposed to just ignore the mod's abuses and believe that is okay for them to push a narrative on the very sub meant to destroy narratives?? THIS HAS TO CHANGE, and it starts with every user in this sub who is really here for conspiracies, not about political motivations or trolling or being paid to infiltrate the sub (thanks shareblue and Russian employees), but bringing this sub back to how it's supposed to be, not how the mods are attempting to push us to be.
WHAT DO WE DO NOW IF WE HAVE NO POWER
EDIT: it looks like this post has been tagged... feel free to make your own thoughts about that after seeing that and reading my post.
84 comments
n/a Triangularistan 2017-03-31
yes yes we know
subversion will never be easy
n/a twofaceHill_16 2017-03-31
I'm seeing a lot of Alt-Left stuff recently.. and the political divide continues depending upon what your bias is.
n/a quackchomp 2017-03-31
You seem to only post in T_Dork and here... where have you seen "alt left" stuff (whatever this means)? And there's a difference between a political divide coming semi naturally, and mods of a sub that should have no bias towards anything about the very government they should always be wary about, yet we see the very opposite. That's not how a conspiracy sub is supposed to function
n/a redditctrsux 2017-03-31
Lol woooowwww we gotta look at people's histories to make a point, then attack people huh?
n/a quackchomp 2017-03-31
..... where did I attack the user? I questioned both parts of his comment, one that he used alt left, which I've only ever seen in a certain type of subs, and the second I questioned and brought my own argument. Where was their an attack? Also since when are post histories private? Is that not a part of transparency?
n/a BloweyJoeyMumi 2017-03-31
You suck at concern trolling
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n/a mastigia 2017-03-31
When people attack users unprovoked, it tells us all we need to know. Last few days we have been overrun. They really want us to buy this new line of shit.
n/a Putin_loves_cats 2017-03-31
Jesus Christ, it's that time of night? We get it.... Stop being so concerned....
n/a redditctrsux 2017-03-31
Seriously, didn't mods flair those Alex Jones videos as "advertisement" lol. The mods are fair
n/a Putin_loves_cats 2017-03-31
The mods here are fair (the most that I've seen on this shit hole website). I've been through it all, trust me on that.... They are. They have a shit position. I can see all sides, but for the most part they are... When people come in here attacking them, I'm gonna call shenanigans, because of my experience(s). Also, AJ is a fuckin' gatekeeper... 10/10 snake oil sales man...
I say fuck all, but this is the world we live in. So, I suggest not using that against me, or the Snek will bite...
n/a quackchomp 2017-03-31
Maybe a while ago before the best left. I'd say there's still 1 or 2 left (personally think u/assuredlyathrowaway is fantastic here) but to look at that disaster of a thread in the Flynn immunity talks, I'm disgusted and saddened that mods are now tagging, stickying unreliable as fuck comments to discredit only certain types of posts, and then other mods dissenting upon their users with bs comments that try to further discredit only one side of opinions, furthering a divide that they're supposed to stay away from or bring together. Sorry this doesn't bother you
n/a Putin_loves_cats 2017-03-31
I'm friendly with many here, but I disagree. The "best" didn't leave... I will leave it at that... I have my own opinions/experience and I'm not about to start a "flame" war....
n/a quackchomp 2017-03-31
Best is subjective though. But I understand we have different experiences and I respect your opinion, just giving mine and don't wanna be laughed at like I'm over exaggerated when there seems to be legitimate concerns about the motives of some mods
n/a Putin_loves_cats 2017-03-31
It is subjective, true, but the one's who left where not objective, imo. One left because of shit (not saying much more), others left because... Other reasons... The one's left are objective, imo. I push boundaries. If we want to see this place come back, I'm happy to agree with the current mod team. If you now anything about me, on here, you will understand why I say this. I say fuck all...
n/a David_St-Hubbins 2017-03-31
What about dronewars stickied comment on the Flynn thread... That doesn't strike you as odd? Or Jamescoleof whatever his name is in that comment chain deflecting too...
n/a Putin_loves_cats 2017-03-31
Which post? James is a cool dude (from what I can tell)... Not quite what you think he is.
n/a David_St-Hubbins 2017-03-31
https://np.reddit.com/r/conspiracy/comments/62hjez/flynn_offers_to_testify_on_russia_ties_in/
n/a Putin_loves_cats 2017-03-31
What's suspect about that stickied comment?
n/a David_St-Hubbins 2017-03-31
It's very misleading.
The rest of the article confirms he has requested immunity, his lawyer has confirmed it yet dronewar selects one statement from Nunes spokesman - Nunes the guy who is likely to get fucked by the whole thing.
When have you ever seen a mod sticky a comment in a thread about Clinton being a baby eater or any pizzagate thread?
n/a quackchomp 2017-03-31
Because instead of posting maybe both quotes, he uses the quote by none other than representative Nunes, while disregarding the more accurate senate information about a deal being made with Flynn. Why is one quote being stickied using an incredibly dishonest politician as the source? That's not a conspiracy thinker type of modding
n/a JUSTIN_HERGINA 2017-03-31
+1 for saying 'red rocket'.
I haven't heard that in ages, and it warmed my immature heart.
n/a science_positive 2017-03-31
What a shocker, Trump supporting communist supporting the mods ...
n/a NonDucor_Duco1 2017-03-31
Hey there buddy, I know you mean well, but u/Putin_loves_cats is a solid contributor to this thread and has been for quite awhile.
Keep in mind, this is coming from someone that most of his and my interactions have been arguments
n/a science_positive 2017-03-31
I guess we'll have to agree to disagree. I believe that flat/concave Earthers who support Trump and spread communist propaganda to actually be problematic for the sub. It also isn't surprising that people who spread these beliefs are in cahoots with the mods.
n/a NonDucor_Duco1 2017-03-31
I don't necessarily see eye to eye with him, but he has quite the record over on alternative history as well. I just worry we are turning into a sub that collapses like a dying star.
So many users, very few are regular posters. We have people getting into conspiracy from r/politics and The Donald and whatever else that are a bit more close minded. They're quick to call BS on anything that's said on here right out of the gate. I don't necessarily believe that we are infiltrated merely because, by society's standards, we are the outcasts. Society sees us as overly paranoid, crazy, conspiracy theorists. Who's to benefit from some sort of infiltration? Half the point of this thread is that we live in a society where the second a post gets anywhere close to the front page, the average Joe sees the r/conspiracy label and downvotes it to hell.
I do believe that we are monitored heavily to make sure we don't put out information that "they" don't want to get out, but not that there's some sort of special brigade of thousands of shit posters and downvoters. The real post conspiracy are the posts we don't see because the second it goes up the guy gets shadowbanned or the post is removed
n/a science_positive 2017-03-31
Thank you for the reasonable response.
Absolutely, but I personally believe that it's actually coming from the top and not from the bottom. Just look at how many threads are now littered with mods deleting posts due to the ridiculous amount of rules that now exist here, there is no room for discourse any more.
n/a NonDucor_Duco1 2017-03-31
Eh, I do see where you're coming from. I think, from a mods perspective, we walk such a fine line around here that they have to make sure this place doesn't turn into some sort of racist, personal attack shit show. That said, I have noticed quite an increase in post removal and whatnot that has been unheard of in times before!
n/a BiffTannen45 2017-03-31
Why don't you just go start your own sub for Trump conspiracies? You guys had no problem launching a plethora of other anti trump subs. Beats you guys coming in here and shitting up the boards.
n/a science_positive 2017-03-31
Huh? I'm saying that somebody who supports Trump while spreading communist messaging is incredibly suspicious, don't know how you can argue with that.
n/a Lisentho 2017-03-31
So how much do you get paid as a shill?
n/a BiffTannen45 2017-03-31
1 million dollars and daily back rubs from Vlad. Why am I a shill for telling the Hillary death cult to make their own sub for their bullshit conspiracies?
n/a Lisentho 2017-03-31
Your account is not even a week old, your nickname is a reference to donald trump, your only posts are provided trump posts. How are you not a shill?
n/a BiffTannen45 2017-03-31
Because I made a new account dumbfuck. Go make a new sub for Trump conspiracies, clearly none of the real users want them here. We don't buy your propaganda. You've already taken over most of Reddit with your toxic bullshit why can't we have just a couple subs free from you delusional idiots
n/a Lisentho 2017-03-31
Then why don't you use your "real user" account?
n/a BiffTannen45 2017-03-31
You're a moron
n/a Lisentho 2017-03-31
Nice one mate. Always resort to insults when you're wrong!
n/a BiffTannen45 2017-03-31
Nope I'm pretty sure it's true that you're retarded.
n/a Lisentho 2017-03-31
You present your arguments very structured, well done, big boy
n/a BiffTannen45 2017-03-31
Tagged as "Lead retard of Hillary's death cult". I'll make sure to think of you whenever I laugh about Hillary losing the election.
n/a Lisentho 2017-03-31
I'm not even american so I didn't vote or wouldn't even have voted for clinton but nice try m8
n/a BiffTannen45 2017-03-31
Netherlands eh? Hope turkey doesn't nuke you. Loved Amsterdam while I was there
n/a Lisentho 2017-03-31
Didn't know you Russians were allowed into the free West.
n/a BiffTannen45 2017-03-31
Just doing my part to drive up anti NATO and EU sentiment of course
n/a JamesColesPardon 2017-03-31
Removed. Rule 4.
n/a JamesColesPardon 2017-03-31
Removed. Rule 10.
n/a Lisentho 2017-03-31
So then why are his replies calling me a dumbfuck allowed?
n/a BiffTannen45 2017-03-31
Because we don't want you here.
n/a JamesColesPardon 2017-03-31
You can take it up with HR. He won't be commenting anymore anyway so it's probably best if you just move on from that one time a stranger on the Internet said something that wasn't very nice.
n/a Lisentho 2017-03-31
I don't mind him saying that, I was just pointing out the hypocrisy in deleting my comments that had no swearing in it vs his.
n/a JamesColesPardon 2017-03-31
Take solace in the fact that you are still allowed to post.
Understand?
n/a Lisentho 2017-03-31
Yeah Im definitely posting in this sub again with such a fair and honest moderation team!!!1!!! If I were banned I dont know if I would be able to even live with myself knowing that you guys don't like me.
n/a JamesColesPardon 2017-03-31
Removed. Rule 10.
n/a Atypical_Black_Hat 2017-03-31
Why are you applying the rules to one individual here by removing their posts, but not applying them to another? That doesn't seem appropriate.
n/a Starlifter2 2017-03-31
You are indeed a Mod with great wisdom.
n/a JamesColesPardon 2017-03-31
Removed. Rule 10.
n/a goemon45 2017-03-31
At least we didn't get the moosearchive treatment
n/a mastigia 2017-03-31
They tried really hard like 2yrs ago.
n/a goemon45 2017-03-31
What happened
n/a mastigia 2017-03-31
Iirc the head mod (owner) was inactive for over a year and they tried to seize it under reddit's abandonment rules.
n/a tamrix 2017-03-31
The harder they fight, the more they will be exposed. The more they will lose. The games over.
n/a pastorignis 2017-03-31
this subreddit, like all others, has only ever been a corporate sponsored echo chamber.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Echo_chamber_(media)
this site was only ever meant to give the slaves a means to vent so action won't be taken against their masters. the mods are as complicit in this as they are in censoring users to better improve the effects.
n/a babaroga73 2017-03-31
Look, I think they're fair to a certain extent. I used a derogatory word on someone, I got warned. I went into a fight with someone, went totaly off-rails and biased , got banned. Asked kindly to get unbanned, apologized, waited, got unbanned. It was all plainly written in the rules.
And if you think that pinned topics look alt-right, it's just that alt-right alignes themselves at the moment with most of the topics that actually look like a serious conspiracies. But there are topics from other side of spectrum that get some fruitfull discussion, too. I've seen it go both ways for pinned topics. There will be more, as the enthusiasm for Trump thins out.
But, 'that's just my opinion, man!'
n/a Sabremesh 2017-03-31
Noted and appreciated!
n/a Daryatash 2017-03-31
Don't expect the problem with the biggest conspiracy forum to get fixed so hard. It's part of all the rest, all we can do is hope people understand information warfare and censorship, I think most do :)
n/a HulaguKhan 2017-03-31
"Possibly"
Russia has been exempt from criticism in this sub for years.
n/a totally_not_a_pirate 2017-03-31
Russia smells like bear farts.
n/a Flytape 2017-03-31
You should try out the search feature. It makes erroneous statements like this super easy to dispell.
n/a HulaguKhan 2017-03-31
If you say so.
n/a crowawray 2017-03-31
Yes, it's been compromised. We can all see what's happening.
n/a kittypryde123 2017-03-31
Look at the poorly written, shitty looking websites filling up new
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n/a NOcomedy 2017-03-31
WHAT DO WE DO NOW IF WE HAVE NO POWER
If you thought that your power lies in a subreddit you need Jesus !
n/a Juicebochts 2017-03-31
Haha.
And this thread gets a flair too.
Maybe they think if we believe they're trying to sensor anti trump stuff, it'll make the _d /altright members get suspicious about trump and turn on him faster?
Or do they generally just not want people discussing/forming trump conspiracies? Either way, it's ridiculous.
n/a quackchomp 2017-03-31
Holy shit thanks for pointing that out. Why would it be tagged as possibly misleading? That could be said about literally any post on a conspiracy sub
n/a Juicebochts 2017-03-31
Probably Just trying to bury this stuff, which is ironic, threads on here verrryyverrryyy rarely get flairs like that so if anything it just draws more attention to it.
So idk, general incompetence?
Tired of losing maybe?
n/a AFuckYou 2017-03-31
Divide and conquer. The purpose is to make this sub unusable, not push an agenda.
n/a Starlifter2 2017-03-31
"There are now mods spamming posts on the sub daily, while commenting on sticky threads ATTEMPTING TO DISCREDIT A CONSPIRACY. One mod makes a sticky trying to discredit the topic, even though the source is arguably the most unreliable source possible at the moment, and another mod acting condescending to users and attempting to discredit the topic as well. "
So they are discrediting "arguably the most unreliable source possible". That's a problem?
n/a quackchomp 2017-03-31
No they're discrediting a reliable source with the mods unreliable source possible
n/a Starlifter2 2017-03-31
Say what now?
n/a AlwaysTurning 2017-03-31
I like the mods here. At least the ones i know of. Ive been here a while, and maybe i just agree with their views, but i think they're great. There is not censorship in this sub unless youre spouting hate speech. I'm pretty sure they stickied that trump post because a lot of you trust him way too much when he's given us no good reason to trust him. I gave him the benefit of the doubt but he's not doing anything differently point. Same shit different toilet.
n/a mastigia 2017-03-31
It definitely has, but most of these users will run out of steam eventually.
n/a hufflepoofs 2017-03-31
I would love to be able to come here to talk about actual conspiracies, especially a specific one that you're mentioning and not have to go to /r/politics to do so which is pretty heavily biased towards one party and is extremely ignorant of how far this rabbit hole goes. I mean this specific conspiracy that we're not allowed to discuss goes so far beyond political party affiliations at this point, people have no fucking idea how bad it is. For example, I would love to be able to share here my latest discoveries of Russian botnets and their tactics that I've found, but I doubt that the mods will ever allow that.
n/a makswell 2017-03-31
Why not? Russian botnets sounds like an awesome topic of discussion and Id personally love to see what material you have on the subject.
n/a hufflepoofs 2017-03-31
Mod opinions aside, I don't think this is a safe place to discuss that. I'm pretty sure some of those Russian botnets come here. It'd be like going "here Russians, this is how I managed to find you". Kind of a dumb idea.
n/a makswell 2017-03-31
Fair enough. I appreciate the response.
n/a makswell 2017-03-31
I don't agree with everything you've said but I do agree with...
"QUESTIONING EVERYTHING".
Keep it simple, stick to that.
You haven't elaborated on what exactly it is that has got you upset. On the face of it it seems like you're angry that the mods are allowed to have an opinion? They're not allowed to question everything too?
It's intellectually lazy to put forward an argument in this sub and to then not expect to have to vigorously defend it whilst remaining completely objective. We are all human and emotions play a part in communication so you should expect at least some abrasions. Expect the devils advocate, expect snide comments, examine your own argument and learn how to deal with having your tree of knowledge shaken.
That's what this sub is really all about IMO.
Without trying to be rude, it seems like you're not prepared to put in the work and are screaming "THERE'S A FIRE GUYS! FOLLOW ME!".
n/a NonDucor_Duco1 2017-03-31
Hey there buddy, I know you mean well, but u/Putin_loves_cats is a solid contributor to this thread and has been for quite awhile.
Keep in mind, this is coming from someone that most of his and my interactions have been arguments
n/a BiffTannen45 2017-03-31
Why don't you just go start your own sub for Trump conspiracies? You guys had no problem launching a plethora of other anti trump subs. Beats you guys coming in here and shitting up the boards.
n/a science_positive 2017-03-31
Thank you for the reasonable response.
Absolutely, but I personally believe that it's actually coming from the top and not from the bottom. Just look at how many threads are now littered with mods deleting posts due to the ridiculous amount of rules that now exist here, there is no room for discourse any more.
n/a Lisentho 2017-03-31
Your account is not even a week old, your nickname is a reference to donald trump, your only posts are provided trump posts. How are you not a shill?
n/a HulaguKhan 2017-03-31
If you say so.