Are you claiming the contents of the leaks to be fake? Or are they real?

From what data are you making this very confident statement?

You can't be for real.

cnn

The "it's illegal to have these emails" news team?

Washington Post and NYT

Is this a joke?

It appears to be a mildly creative shitpost; we know the whole Russian narrative is about consolidating news and social media influence

But but but CNN told me not to read them. I wait until I get my daily CNN brain wash before I plan what to do every day. Wouldn't want to unwittingly think for myself about anything.

So CNN, the king of fake news, exposed "fake" Wikileaks.

Can you provide irrefutable proof to back the claim you are making?

You mean the Lean Green Screen CNN Machine?

Want to prove their falsity? Because the leaks are not fakes my friend

lulz

one reporter did dig into that question and suggested many of the dnc emails were in fact altered.

Right the DKIM verified emails were altered. If they are altered why hasn't anyone spoken out to say so? You're about to get into Donna Brazile territory here. Remember she said they were altered? Then she retracted and apologized for giving the question to Clintons team?

The cognitive dissonance is real I guess. The emails are not altered and you know that.

It's quite interesting how people like you always ignore the vast majority of the other persons argument and try and latch on to one aspect. And here you've chosen to latch on to a lie that's easily disproven. If you really think that those emails are altered then you're as dumb as people who thought trump would "drain the swamp".

Right the DKIM verified emails were altered.

"However, some of the emails in the WikiLeaks dump — especially among emails sent to Podesta — don’t have these signatures and can’t be technically verified. And digital signature verification wouldn’t detect tampering by omission, like if the hackers were to withhold certain emails."

“I’ve looked at a lot of document dumps provided by hacker groups over the years, and in almost every case you can find a few altered or entirely falsified documents,” said Jeffrey Carr, CEO of cybersecurity firm Taia Global. “But only a few. The vast majority were genuine. I believe that’s the case with the Podesta emails, as well.”

"The metadata show that the Russian operators apparently edited some documents, and in some cases created new documents after the intruders were already expunged from the DNC network on June 11. A file called donors.xls, for instance, was created more than a day after the story came out, on June 15"

Ouuuu very nice try man. Real subtle too I'll commend you on that but I'm not a moron.

The "donors.xls" along with all the other documents the Motherboard article claims were altered belong to Guccifer 2.0. And Guccifer 2.0 is a hoax itself and completely fabricated. Spends sometime here and you'll be forced to conclude that as well, there's just way too much evidence proving it's a set up.

And while all the emails released by wikileaks don't have DKIM verification many of the important ones showing the most scandalous and atrocious actions by the Clinton campaign do have the verification. On top of that there is actually nothing to suggest that any of the emails released by Wikileaks are altered or forged. If any of the emails were altered it would be extremely easy for Podesta or whoever the email is about to prove their falsity. But they haven't done so, they haven't proven any of them to be fakes have they? In 10 years Wikileaks has never published a fake. Very nice try I will say but you know for a fact that the emails are real.

Very nice try I will say but you know for a fact that the emails are real.

ok conceded, whatever. But just cause they're real, do they fucking matter? Yeah a lot of controversy has been successfully drummed up with them, but i haven't seen any credible report anyone was gonna get arrested over them either.

Frankly they seem to be over hyped. Yet why they should be released and hyped at all, while assange admits to having trumps emails but decides to gatekeep them frm the public cause they're "boring"

the agenda is so fucking obvious it hurts. Frankly i feel in this sub like i'm with a bunch of junkies who all got their minds blown by the arab spring leaks trying to chase the same high, but their dealer got orders from their boss and has cut the product down hard.

Ah so now they are real but forget about them right?!

What about Trumps emails! (Irony here is amazing, you started this with whataboutism) Assange said they have some info on the GOP campaign. Doesn't ever say he has Trumps emails. They should absolutely release whatever they have but to imply they have Trumps emails is just straight up lying.

The real emails from Clinton's campaign proved through and through that all of them should have never held public office let alone been running for president. And while no arrests may be going down yet, you can bet your ass once the Odebrecht case concludes in Brazil that there will be heads rolling in the Clinton campaign and most likely all over the world

https://wikileaks.org/clinton-emails/emailid/12907

Once you start admitting that Clinton is criminal we can start bridging this gap. If Trump is guilty of anything I want him to answer for it just as much as I want Clinton too. Only difference is I'm starring the evidence against Clinton right in the face.

To sum up what we've covered here: the emails are real, Wikileaks did follow through on publish documents on Russia, and there's massive evidence showing unethical and illegal activity on the part of Clinton's campaign

What about Trumps emails! (Irony here is amazing, you started this with whataboutism)

the point was the asymmetry, not his emails, but that releasing one but not the other is an action that paints its own picture.

Once you start admitting that Clinton is criminal we can start bridging this gap.

years late on this one. I was prosanders as fuck, mostly cause hill was clearly a corrupt establishment insider, ie criminal embezzler probably at least. But trump is scum on a scale that should have never been allowed near office, his villainy is such that i want hug hillary she looks so ethical in comparison.

not to mention competent, god, how many hundreds of appointments has trump still not filled? Between that and his bull in a china shop diplomacy he's doing a pretty good job validating the theory that russia propped him up to weaken us economically. Hell he's even offering in his budget the same thing that collapsed the ussr, inflated military and drastically fucked services and revenue collection.

he's guilty as fuck of bribery, and using his real estate biz to launder money for rich russians, and probably a lot more. But those who should be invstigating him, people who promised to do even more investigations in to fucking benghazi, are openly pretending theres nothing to see.

If Trump is guilty of anything I want him to answer for it just as much as I want Clinton too.

see but with his party in control of the watchmen no one is trying to watch him, tats a fuckign problem.

And while no arrests may be going down yet

keep hoping

Wikileaks did follow through on publish documents on Russia

uh what? when did that get proved? the links you provided stop after 2010.

there's massive evidence showing unethical and illegal activity on the part of Clinton's campaign

people seem to always insist this but then i never actually see a convincing follow through. was there supposed to be something shocking in those emails there? i just read the ones you linked and am curious why you are up in arms about them.

You're so full of shit you were just defending Clinton through and through. Whatever you are it's not honest.

Please break down why Trump is more scummy than Hillary. She's got thousands if not millions of lives blood on her hands. Like I said they are two sides of the same coin, ones just a murderer on top of it all.

And not filling appointments eh? Is that not the work of the democrats holding him up on appointments? Cmon man get your head in the game

see but with his party in control of the watchmen no one is trying to watch him, tats a fuckign problem.

Jesus Christ there's a goddamn congressional investigation going on!! Your head is getting farther up your ass the more you go man

Tell me to keep hoping on arrests but are you even slightly aware of what's going on with Odebrecht? Educate yourself on that first

uh what? when did that get proved? the links you provided stop after 2010.

Right and that was in response to you pointing out the specific tweet made by Wikileaks saying they had stuff on Russia coming and then they released thousands of documents pertaining to Russia. I replied to your other comment with examples from 2016 or Russian related releases from Wikileaks

people seem to always insist this but then i never actually see a convincing follow through. was there supposed to be something shocking in those emails there? i just read the ones you linked and am curious why you are up in arms about them.

I could spend hours going over this if you'd like, from the talks of keeping Americans uninformed, Sid Blumenthal General Grange Tyler Drumheller and their private toppling army, the IHRC, banking influence, her general disdain for Americans its all in there. The email I linked you to would make a lot more sense if you educated yourself on Odebrecht and their operation. It's really clear just how little you've researched anything. If you want let's set up a discord and I can go through everything with you if you'd like. It's plain as day man, plain as day.

Jesus Christ there's a goddamn congressional investigation going on!!

yeah, and nunes has done everything possible to obstruct it, not sharing evidence with his commiteee, blocking testimony, cancelling hearings just to delay, this doesn't make the point you think it does.

chaffetz just looks at the sky and claims theres nothing to look for!

It is plainly obvious that Wikileaks is controlled by Russia

Explain with with sources please.

Rich people, Russian, American, whatever, are the enemy.

Commie say wat?

No, sir. I am a staunch proponent of conscientious capitalism; a fair days wage for a fairs days work. I have yet to be the recipient of such in life despite my level of education and considerable work ethic.

Like a displaced Detroit autoworker once famously said, you "work for the mother fucker, or you own mother fucker."

Your user name checks out because this post is a joke.

OP needs less obvi user name for future troll jobs...

Sure, If you say so.

Sadly the content of the emails are real and contain evidence of a malicious attempt at globalisation.

So if Russia was involved (which it was Seth Rich) you should really thank them for exposing the corruption.

I'm ok with that.

HAHAHAHHAHAHA Hillary had DHS hack voting machines in several states and still lost. Massive fraud in Detroit that counted Hill vote at 6x the rate. You are a retard. Kill yourself.

It's more acceptable than if he'd lost to Hillary. There's verifiable proof that she cheated in the primaries and the podesta leaks display indicate she was planning to cheat in future elections as well using the DNC's Catalist software to identify dead voters that were still listed on the voting registry as being alive. She never even should have been on the ballot.

"Russias play thing"???

Are you actually retarded? Are you over the age of 23? If so, try to remember the narrative about Russia prior to Qaddafi being overthrown...now suddenly they are capable of controlling the world and dictating every election.

Use whats left of your brain to challenge your own narrative. You can do your own research, and if you find something definitive dont forget to post updates!

Can't tell if OP is being sarcastic or serious

It's a troll-job... and could be done better...

Thank you for your concern

ayyyyyy

False alarm guys, I think this guy is a kekistan native!

Trump and the CIA can both be bad you know...

If Wikileaks is controlled by Russian Intelligence why did you submit to another Subreddit about one of their recent releases?

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stalker...

April fools would make sense

I think you're probably right.

So...8 days ago you posted a Wikileaks dump story on the CIA??? And today they can't be trusted? What happened in 7 days?

Marine Le pen is a hero.

Everyone please use your heads and ignore everything Wikileaks related.

Not much of an argument you have there.

Well I don't care if this gets me banned but I'll go ahead and say it. You should kill yourself. Says Wikileaks is fake and cannot provide one example of anything they publish as fake. Then says WaPo and the times says it's fake. Wow. You are mentally ill. Seriously. Just kill yourself. I'll cover your final expenses.

Probably a Bernie Sanders supporter from California upset they lost twice.

The true question is, could they ever be trusted?

If Russia isn't part of Agenda 21, isn't buddies with the globalists, and thinks Israel is the most terrorising state in the world, they seem like good people.

i feel like this whole post could be classified as disinfo.

wikileaks is compromised and controlled by russia, anyone with eyes sees that, but OP purposefully doesn't present evidence, probably because they've purposefully ignored it and don't actually know any of it.

like how rt was the first station to air assanges show, or that they only did that after wikileaks announced they were gonna do a leak harmful to russia, but fsb threatened them and then that leak never happened. And then he gats a show from them.

i mean this isn't even hidden practically, those that don't see he's distributing info on russia's behalf are not seeing that on purpose, or their just ignorant and have been tricked into thinking wikileaks is neutral.

Oh this is going to be fun.

Would you like to show me where Assange said they were going to release documents on Russia?

https://twitter.com/wikileaks/status/28800256698?lang=en

it was a tweet from wikileak's official twitter. then the threat, then less than 30 days later assange is making excuses in interviews and downplaying the whole thing- "we never really meant go after russia when we said go after russia"* ANd then he's got a show airing on russian state media.

oh and two years later wikileaks releases stuff about syria, then is shown to have omitted information embarrassing to russia.

*all quotes paraphrased

Ah so October 2010 they said they were going to release files pertaining to Russia yes?

"We have [compromising materials] about Russia, about your government and businessmen," Mr. Assange told the pro-government daily Izvestia. "But not as much as we'd like... We will publish these materials soon."

He then dropped a hint that's likely to be nervously parsed in Russia's corridors of power: "We are helped by the Americans, who pass on a lot of material about Russia," to WikiLeaks, he said.

This is from the same day October 26th 2010.

What did Wikileaks release about a month later? Their diplomatic cables series. Among that series there was 30,000 documents related to "Russia", 3,000 documents relating to Putin, 370 documents relating to the FSB, and 1,200 documents relating to the Kremlin.

https://wikileaks.org/plusd/?qproject%5B%5D=cg&q=Russia#result

https://wikileaks.org/plusd/?qproject%5B%5D=cg&q=Putin#result

https://wikileaks.org/plusd/?qproject%5B%5D=cg&q=FSB#result

https://wikileaks.org/plusd/?qproject%5B%5D=cg&q=Kremlin#result

35,000 documents on Russia isn't enough? These documents exposed years of secrets surrounding Russia and Russian relations. Julian even said they would like to have more but fuck me 35,000 documents is insane. Nice try though man you really are working hard to put the round peg in a square hole.

documents set to search " Cablegate — 251,287 diplomatic cables, nearly all from 2003 to 2010."

funny you don't have any that have seem to have been released since that threat do you?

Now you're reallllllyyyyy reaching man

https://search.wikileaks.org/gifiles/?q=Russia&mfrom=&mto=&title=&notitle=&date=&nofrom=&noto=&count=50&sort=0&file=&docid=&relid=0#searchresult

Global Intelligence files from 2012

Barats Box 2016

https://wikileaks.org/berats-box/?q=Russia+&mfrom=&mto=&title=&notitle=&date_from=&date_to=&nofrom=&noto=&count=50&sort=0#searchresult

This is what I'm talking about. You're just digging in harder. You're not being introspective whatsoever. Sit back and ask yourself, are any of these politicians really on my side? What have the leaks shown us? Am I thinking for myself?

lets look at doth those things actually

1. global intelligence files: >On Monday February 27th, 2012, WikiLeaks began publishing The Global Intelligence Files, over five million e-mails from the Texas headquartered "global intelligence" company Stratfor. The e-mails date between July 2004 and late December 2011. They reveal the inner workings of a company that fronts as an intelligence publisher, but provides confidential intelligence services to large corporations, such as Bhopal's Dow Chemical Co., Lockheed Martin, Northrop Grumman, Raytheon and government agencies, including the US Department of Homeland Security, the US Marines and the US Defence Intelligence Agency. The emails show Stratfor's web of informers, pay-off structure, payment laundering techniques and psychological methods.

yeah so embarrassing to russia and not the us, really doing great proving wikileaks ain't a russian puppet with moves like this.

and 2. a bunch of emails from a turkish "Minister of Energy and Natural Resources"

do you think they prove your point cause the word russia is in them?

Turkish Minister isn't embarrassing to Russia?

Not even their justice department?

https://wikileaks.org/akp-emails/

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2017-02-03/who-is-alexander-dugin-the-man-linking-putin-erdogan-and-trump

https://www.google.ca/amp/foreignpolicy.com/2017/01/11/putin-and-erdogans-marriage-of-convenience/amp/

https://www.google.ca/amp/s/www.forbes.com/sites/annaborshchevskaya/2017/01/27/is-erdogan-a-russian-ally-or-putins-puppet/amp/

The other issue is can you show any instances of the Russians being hacked? Every Wikileaks release can be somewhat traced back to an attack or intrusion. There aren't many instances of the Russians being hacked. They were attacked by a Ukrainian group called Cyber Hunta in October

http://securityaffairs.co/wordpress/52812/cyber-warfare-2/cyber-hunta-hackers.html

And what they got (2000+ emails) was released just days later. These guys seemed confident enough to share what they stole without the help of Wikileaks. Interesting to think what allowed them that confidence. But the point is there aren't many opportunities shown for Russian things to be given to Wikileaks as they haven't been successfully attacked much.

These guys seemed confident enough to share what they stole without the help of Wikileaks.

or maybe their confidence was that wikileaks wouldn't help them?

You avoided the rest of my points nicely there.

Wikileaks has never posted a fake. And no one has claimed they have either. They published documents that hurt the bush administration and the Democratic Party, ask yourself who stands to hurt Russia while not being fond of Wikileaks and not wanting to boost their reputation at all?

Turkish Minister isn't embarrassing to Russia? Not even their justice department?

"Erdogan may think Putin is his ally, but instead, Turkey is falling far deeper under Moscow’s influence than even Erdogan may realize."

none of that was embarrasing to russia, hell that forbes article may as well have jsut been stroking putins ego.

Lol okay, good counter arguments man you've thoroughly addressed all the points /s