I agree. Some Redditors lack critical thinking and analyzing skills (myself included at times). Many positions on Reddit are nothing but kneejerk reactions. Haters gonna hate.

Many positions on Reddit are nothing but kneejerk reactions. Haters gonna hate.

Those who speak, do not know

Those who know, do not speak.

Lao Tzu

Of course, if you know, you have an advantage over those who don't, why would you speak and willingly give up your advantage? No one is that altruistic.

Then this sub is full of idiots, because all we do is say things like we're the only ones who know what is going on.

we're the only ones who know what is going on.

It sounds crazy, but this isn't that far from the truth. How so?

Well, the information is out there. But not everybody is listening. Also, a lot of people prefer not to hear the truth even when you give it to them. Then you've got the fact that many people just aren't interested in the same things we are.

So you end up with millions of people who can tell you about the latest features on a Samsung or iPhone, or the latest details on Kendall Jenner's life. But they don't have a clue about things like astroturfing or how a false flag works.

I would have to imagine for some it would be a first step. If they get interested in a topic and research examples, some things are hard to ignore. The idea may lie dormant for years, but someday a similar event will happen or they could happen upon something in history, which they will view in a new light.

These new minds should not be ignored. Through constructive criticism and patience, we could have fresh minds tackling ideas. This place could be a diverse crucible of truth. How many things have slipped by unnoticed because those who could see have no voice? How many people out there have come across information and not realize the significance of it?

Cognitive dissonance will prevent this, Anything that adheres to their world point is validated; anything that goes against is rejected.

Every big country can perform false flags.

Little countries and non-state actors can also perform false flags, but their operations tend to be for more limited objectives, and more obvious ones. The bigger the country, the harder it falls. Big things commit big evils.

Who is bigger in today's world? Russia, or the United States? I do not think Russia is bigger in today's world than the United States. I think China might be, but all seems quiet on that front. We do not hear much about China anymore. There is no purpose in worrying about China when Russia's interference looms so high over us.

(This comment was sample rhetoric. Don't take it too seriously.)

Reddit is especially tiring today.

My only hope is that in opening the door to discussion on false flags people will see how dirty our own government is, really bringing up a double edged sword.

It's like they never studied history.

I was very proud to see when the Turkish coup happened last year tha t people suspected a false flag very soon into it.

And the opposite is true of this subreddit. Everything is a false flag except for this one. Only CIA and Mossad do stuff like this, okay?

You're right, but it seems you're missing his point regardless. While those you decry rush to deem the event a false flag by Putin, you seem to rush to defend him when it would be more reasonable to simply note the ubiquity of false flag attacks in general.

It is just as likely Putin is behind it as it is that he isn't. For reasons that are your own, your post seems to shy away from the first option.

That's always been a problem. We believe that every other country does it, and can accept that our own country has done it in the distant past, but few will accept that our current government does it. Such denial.

But I don't know how that really matters here. Yes, the US does it. That doesn't make Putin innocent here, it still remains to be seen. And Putin is clearly not above this stuff. He's done it before.

Has anybody said that?

I'm being hyperbolic, but that seems to be the general sentiment of this subreddit as of late.

FSB does false Flags too:

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/1999_Russian_apartment_bombings

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Nunes breaks wiretapping story and London Happens.

The biggest story of the year about Susan Rice and "wiretapping" broke today and St Petersburg happens.

Its not that hard to connect the dots of the Deep State in action.

biggest story of the year

lol

I did see one or two threads here about it being a false flag, but def not the same as when any other attack happens. there are usually numerous threads flooding /r/new

I'm curious why russia has, up to this point, been relatively untouched by these kind of major terrorist attacks. Don't they have an FBI or CIA to help those along like us here in the US?

Muslim based attacks? I mean, is there any similarity to what the West has been experiencing? I am not trying to say there hasn't been, I am just unaware.

Has Russia been droning Muslim countries nonstop for decades?

I'm out of the loop on what Russia has been up too but it's my impression they're mostly minding their own business. (Yes Ukraine is their own business.)

Good points. And all of the sudden after getting more involved in Syria they have an attack. Ok, starting to make sense now. I still think most of the attacks in the US are false flags of some degree though.

The Chechen territory is mostly Muslim. The Chechen rebels regularly attack Russia.

Thanks

Just to add on, this is a great source on the topic.

Just last year ISIS bombed a Russian airplane.

Having lived under a rigid totalitarian system for three quarters of a century no one is more adept at recognising any of the tell tale signs of their own government's hand in staging events to psychologically manipulate and control the masses than the ordinary Russian people are.

Until we get some more facts and some reliable information of what the thinking among those ordinary Russians in St. Petersburg is, it's best not to jump to any hasty or ill formed conclusions about it.

Until we get some more facts and some reliable information about what those ordinary Russians in St. Petersburg know and think about this, it's best not to jump to any hasty or ill formed conclusions about it.

I wish this sub would bring that philosophy to every other event that has ever happened. If it had been a pizza restaurant that was bombed, every post on this sub would be "satanic baby eating libruls at it again!"

The neighborhood around Comet Ping Pong was described as being almost entirely CIA by a local resident, which was one of the catalysts to me and others taking interest in the investigation in early November.

I saw a comment in r/worldnews considering the bombing today to be an obvious false flag event, but closing the comment with 'but 9/11 was of course not, it wouldn't make sense'.

Like... what kind of mind works that way?! I mean, if a plane were to hit the metro and the shit imploded in on itself, would that make it more ''real'' to people like these??

I'm still baffled by the fact that people accept the 'official narrative' from 9/11... Yet, not a single aircraft has been used in demolitions since? I know I'm getting off track here, but the only logical conclusion you could make from that day, other than we need a new intelligence agency, was that jets are perfect for demolition duties...

So Putin would be capable of engaging in false flag attacks and nobody else in the west would?

There was a time in my life that I would have said 'yes' to that because I legitimately believed that we (U.S.) we're the good guys. Be patient, people can come around.

Seems to be an artificial response to this. They are interjecting the idea that its a putin false flag, when there is zero evidence to point to this. It looks like interference.

Kinda like the "halo effect" and its opposite.

Lets just stick with the facts.

This was a high muslim occupancy area in russia. The russians haven't released a suspect method or motive.

The russians are currently engaging isis in the middle east just outside their borders.

Is the timing convenient for a false flag. Sure....

Yet the obvious misconceptions of 9.11 really aren't taking place here. There was no impracticable scenario here. No magic passports found. No announcement of every person involved same day, Or vans with questionable insignia pulled over...

No its just a typical bomb taking off in a rather peaceful area where muslims and russians share a living space...

Lets wait for the russian intel reports.

Pretty sad users are even taking false flag narratives into accounts when we are all aware of russias recent strides to eradicate a terroist regime-

We should unify and send our blessings and support over this, instead of making it an 'about us' issue.

People died- My sympathy to those that lost their lives yesterday in russia. Hopefully they take it out on raqqa- I wouldn't give a damn if we nuked that festering shit hole. Would probably send a rather clear message to the world on the fate of future jihadists-

Sorry russia for americas misguided in your time of healing. May your injured citizens find health. With the ones that lost their lives finding peace.

I as an american support you and send my love in your time of loss. Its truly a tragic day for world history. :(

I'm more confused about the opposite. Every fucking thing that ever happens is called a false flag here.

Now, when this happens in Russia, /r/conspiracy is like "don't look! Nothing to see here. Putin can't possibly be involved!"

Why is it that Putin became some symbol of honesty and integrity on this sub as soon as it became clear he and Trump are pals? The guy gained power by killing his political opponents.

I think it was a false flag almost definitely, (almost every incidence is) but not sure if it is an eastern or western one. Maybe Putin (or others linked to him) did it for an agenda such as preventing protests dismantling the government. Or it could be the U.S./Israel/Saudi Arabia trying to bait Putin into conflict. Who knows but false flag is likely. IMO teer.. orr.. ism is usually manufactured or administered by the psychopath elite/intelligence agencies. Even if I see Putin as generally more honest, I don't necessarily trust him. Both Russia and the U.S. have had false flags. Nothing off the table. We have to look at the timings and see which agendas correlate strongly with the incidence.

The Deep State just declared war on Russia.

Just to add on, this is a great source on the topic.