Zyklon B was used in the German prison camps to disinfect clothing and other materials from typhus-spreading lice and their eggs.

Its active ingredient is cyanide, but no autopsy ever revealed death by cyanide poisoning in one of the labor camps. Cyanide turns corpses pink, and walls blue. In the camps we do see blue walls, in the disinfecting rooms, but no pink bodies were ever identified.

Far from wanting the prisoners to starve to death, shaving their heads and gassing their clothing was part of an effort to keep them alive. Many died of starvation due to a lack of supplies and food, as the German railways were being saturation-bombed by the Allies.

Prussian blue does need to form in the presence of zyklon b. That's garbage level chemistry. Funny, there was however, cyanide found in the gas chambers.

Which rails were bombed, where and when?

The allies bombed all the roads and railways. The truth is the Nazis had no way to get food or zyklon gas to any of the camps. If you want to know about what really happened in the camps look into the Red Cross's reccords. The Red Cross was stationed at all Nazi internment camps throughout the duration of the war. The Red Cross recorded all deaths and cause of deaths.

Any links?

Give me a second to find it. Google definitly memory holed it. It was a book published by the International Committee of the Red Cross shortly after the war. It's most certainly in the archives but their archives are huge. All I'm getting is pro Jewish websites kvetching about the horrible red cross.

It was pinscher by the ICRC in 1979 in response to an enquiry but for the life of me I can't find it

The guy cant even find any proof of what he's claiming. Stop upvoting

Not that it matters but ive seen some photo copie of said supposed document. Its not secret red cross was operating in germany. I too recently tried to find it again to no avail. Very strange.

Here https://archive.org/details/ReportOfTheInternationalCommitteeOfTheRedCrossOnItsActivitiesDuring

https://archive.org/details/ReportOfTheInternationalCommitteeOfTheRedCrossOnItsActivitiesDuring

i believe this might be it

The allies bombed all the roads and railways. The truth is the Nazis had no way to get food or zyklon gas to any of the camps.

Allied bombing didn't have much of an effect on Nazi rails until late into the warz after most of the killing had been done.

They didn't have much trouble moving men and materiel.

And strange that camp guards enjoyed rich meals with those "ruined" rails. Very strange indeed.

look into the Red Cross's reccords

Please do. You'll see the ICRC attesting to large scale murders.

The Red Cross was stationed at all Nazi internment camps throughout the duration of the war.

they weren't.

The ICRC also readily attests to this. You can read their comments where they weren't allowed into specific camps and given handheld, guided tours of others.

.. The Red Cross recorded all deaths and cause of deaths.

They actually didn't.

Ah lovely, meeting a holocaust denier in the wild.

300k people died. Why would anyone fighting a war so desperate for resources they invade Russia in the winter starting a war on two fronts waste resources transporting 6 gorillion jews around just to gas them? If anything what hitler did was identical to the US's Japanese internment camps. Except typhus was more of an issue in Germany than the US resulting in more deaths.

300k people died.

Holy Odin's Hairy Balls

Do you think the Red Cross is lying? Do you have a source to prove me wrong that's not the Shoah museum or holocaust memorial?

The Red Cross couldn't get accurate info due to the fact that they were barred from gathering those facts.

Have fun in David Icke world honey.

Ahh so the Shoah musuem probably had an easier time gathering those facts then?

Should we refer to the world Almanac that list the population of European jews before and after WWII?

Perhaps we should compare the number of jews who collected holocaust reparations to their recorded population before WWII.

I mean, If you really want to believe things which are counter-factual, be my guest.

And trying to imply that the Shoah Museum states that just 300k died in the extermination camps. Oh boy.

counter-factual

Do you have any sources to disprove me that aren't blatantly Jewish our reporting a number that was reported by someone else.

And trying to imply that the Shoah Museum states that just 300k died in the extermination camps. Oh boy.

That's not what I am implying. I'm implying the only people who even have the audacity to suggest it was 6 million are those who profit off the Holocaust such as the Holocaust memorial etc

sources to disprove me that aren't blatantly Jewish

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Not an argument.

Oreally? Stating an obvious anti-semitic fairy tale is an argument I suppose? I guess you'll educate me on the truth of The Protocols of the Elders of Zion soon.

hint, it too was fabricated, first published in Imperial Russia.

There are mountains of evidence in regards to what Hitler did to people. Starvation, chemicals, and science experiments to say the least. The only people that deny this stuff are either full on alt-right or at the very least starting down that path.

Yeah he gave them soccer teams, theaters, musical instruments, swimming pools, doctors, even brothels but it was just so he could do experiments and gas them later.

Or for foreign propaganda.

There's plenty of evidence of soccer teams, play productions, and healthcare for prisoners but no evidence of homicidal gas chambers, and the latter would be more diligently sought.

Gotta love Nazi scumbags. Fuck off.

Sure but many of us live in jurisdictions where we are legally required to believe certain things and prohibited by law from publishing claims to that effect.

And why can't this truth stand on its own without the law making it illegal to question it?

I'm not saying it can't, I'm just explaining the facts and why you probably won't get much discussion of this in a public forum which could be considered publishing.

It can and has, but at the same time many people feel there is great value in not letting the crimes of the past be erased.

Soccer teams- for preferred prisoners.

Theaters, musical instuements- for preferred prisoners, set up specifically at a camp to show off to the red cross.

Swimming pools- not for jews either. Also none of them were actual swimming pools. Just resevoirs that lucky prisoners could swim in.

Fail.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WPa_QeV9KDM

So very concerned about their well being. Starvation was a result of the All-lies destroying the supply lines.

Gotta love Nazi scumbags. Fuck off.

Such a intelligent and well articulated argument.

I could layout a millions ways your wrong but scumbags don't listen to reason or care about the truth. Fuck off.

No you can't and you know it. All you got is the same bullshit propaganda your ZOG puppet governments have been peddling for decades. You know we have debunked all of it and hence you resort to insults. That's all you got left. Come fight me bitch.

Can you any of you nazi shits answer my question? Which supply lines. Where. When?

Removed. Rule 10.

bahahahaaha

Which supply lines, where and when?

https://youtu.be/80GgRWuXcO8

It's informative. If you need more this one is also well done

https://youtu.be/RddqP0ABzwM

They were delousing chambers used in the work camps.

Labour camps for slave labour. It's a holohoax.

r/holocaust > sidebar

The biggest thing that people fail to understand about the Third Reich and the Holocaust is how big the whole thing was. People say "Hitler", but he wasn't the micromanaging dictator. He spent most of his time in Germany while the SS operated camps. So, some camps were extremely harsh and brutal and others were less so. Only a handful had gas chambers: Sobibor, Treblinka, Belzec, Auschwitz-Birkenau, Majdanek, and Chelmno. Those are the only ones discovered to have facilities for extermination and disposal of bodies. Hitler certainly knew about those, but there was a lot that he simply didn't know about. His subordinates in the SS did a lot of stuff under a kind of blanket blessing, but nothing specific. This really goes toward the complexity of the issue: the way it is taught in school is that the Reich was a well-oiled machine, but it wasn't. It was rife with power plays and deception - much harder to teach to the masses.

Someone mentioned the Red Cross making records and being stationed at all camps. In 20 years of researching this time period and these events, I have only ever heard of them being at Teresienstadt, sometimes called Terezin. Terezin was supposed to be a model camp. Inmates were supposedly treated better, families kept together, etc. The Red Cross checked in there, but I have never heard of them going to another camp. If someone has info on that, I want to read it. The Red Cross is supposed to be a neutral medical organization, but if you have RC reps going into camps, where were they coming from? If they were German, it's likely they would have been under Nazi control or influence.

I also wonder how people reconcile the massive amounts of starved bodies that we have evidence of, both from Allied and Nazi photographers. Where did all those people come from and why were they there, if numbers were so much lower?

As for Spicer, I think he's just dumb and flustered and didn't know what he was talking about.

Thanks for reading. I'll enjoy your downvotes.

Richard Evans did a trilogy on the 3rd Reich that is indispensable in balancing the complexity. It's a slow read, but worth it: The Coming of the Third Reich, The Third Reich in Power, and The Third Reich at War.

He is wrong about large parts of this. Birkenau was never a gassing camp, and the bodies were largely from Allied bombing campaigns as they were given the greenlight to shoot/bomb anything that moves and specifically targeted German civilians.

Also like to highlight I don't deny the holocaust, I deny the number of people killed by the Nazi's

Birkenau and a couple of the others have been proven to have no gas chambers. I can't remember the names, I'll find them in a bit.

For now I'll focus on two of your points but I want to say this before: I DO NOT DENY THE HARMING OF HEBREWS, GIPSYS OR ANYONE ELSE. NOR DO I DENY THAT THE NAZI'S WERE A TERRIBLE BLIGHT. NOR DO I DENY THAT HITLERS WAS A FUCKING PSYCHO PATH.

Like the election I feel like I need to get that out of the way as people assumed I was pro-Trump because I hated Hillary. Just like when you discuss this topic people assume you're a NAZI or Anti-Semite if you disagree with some of the mainstream propaganda we were exposed to as children.

1) Birkenau was proven not to have any one gassed there. In fact the actual sign at the site post-WWII says, and I quote, "No one was gassed at this site." Directly under saying it was a gas chamber. It was also proven to be a fully functioning shower which makes the likelihood of it being a gas chamber next to 0%, while actual holocaust mainstream supporters have declared it completely false that there ever was a gas chamber.

2) Those bodies came from Allied bombing campaigns. Infact a lot of the video footage I was shown in the Canadian curriculum was a town that was bombed, while being portrayed as evidence of the holocaust. The bodies were blown apart etc... Yet I never asked that question as a child due to the well-made shock value of the clips. The classic video of the American driving the bulldozer pushing the bodies into a massive grave is one such videos. Those bodies all died from disease after supplies had been cut off to the interment camps due to allied advances.

Are there any accounts from Allied forces that corroborate these points? So, who were those bodies - I was thinking of the bulldozer footage as well? Where did they come from - surrounding villages or the camps? If the camps, why where there so many people there, if not genocide and making dissenters disappear?

Also, what are some good sources on the gas chambers/showers? They did have working showers. Many people were out through the showers as part of the intake process.

wow man I really fucked up there, I mistaked Birkenau for Buchenwald, I'm writing a response started pulling up links and realized how big of a fuck up that was.

I was thinking of the bulldozer footage as well? Where did they come from

The victims of the real holocaust. German civilians.

http://www.hellstormdocumentary.com

Well a lot of the videos and pictures we're actually shown to perpetuate the devastation are from Nordhausen. We bombed the fuck out of Nordhausen, and the classic pictures of bodies lined up and graves being dug are from Nordhausen. Which as we now know, never gassed anyone and had hardly any one killed until near the end of the war when supplies were cut off. Remember we were devastating all German infrastructure(kind of one of those necessary evils) so the Germans themselves were starving, chances are political prisoners like Poles etc... were not getting any of the little food they had left.

https://www.google.rs/search?q=holocaust+nordhausen&espv=2&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwiTtICM_qbTAhURahoKHW5rCXoQ_AUIBigB&biw=1366&bih=662#imgrc=Wkbs0GiJ7rsxpM:

Those images were shown to me in numerous videos throughout school, except with one minor detail. They left out it was Nordhausen, and usually used them after terms like Auschwitz etc..

As to answer your question on why so many people were there, it was a city. Those are German civilians killed along with people in the camps. Most of the bodies we are shown in footage is from camps we definitively know had no gas chambers or were not death camps, and the civilians caught as collateral damage.

Well one that I find really absolutely disturbing regarding your question about gaschambers is that old lady who lied on the NBC video. She is an alleged holocaust survivor and her story is that they went down stairs into Auschwitz gas chamber and there was holes in the ceilings(for Zikon-3) and water came out of the showers. Then when she came out people hugged her and said "you know where you were? a gas chamber". Now highly doubtful that some dude just pressed the wrong button, but completely possible. What really irks me about it is she lies about her time in the camps too, she says she was there for just under a month when records show she was there 2 days. This woman was given the award that's 3 ranks below Knighthood and no one ever addressed the fact she lied about how long she was in there. (found it) Her name is Gina Turgel but used to be Gina Goldfinger

http://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/auschwitz-survivor-gena-turgel-walked-out-gas-chamber-alive-n293496

They cut out in the white flash the part where she says the water comes out, which is kind of fucked up. Why cut that part out?

Anyways I have learned that I do question the extent of it now, which I hate and had to deal with a large part of my own cognitive dissonance regarding the subject.

Still searching for a link to the bulldozer video but I'm pretty sure it's from Buchenwald and those prisoners all died of Typhus. I'll keep searching

I'm going to back off my statement for the death camps you named being wrong. It appears you've labelled the ones that have yet to be proven otherwise. I apologize for that.

Gina goldfinger? Lmao at the Kike names

HITLERS WAS A FUCKING PSYCHO PATH

No he wasn't. [He was very sane and one of the best leaders a nation could hope for.]](https://kek.gg/i/79YW7Z.jpg)

Oh Christ are people really praising the leadership of fucking Hitler?

He ruined Germany by starting an unwinable war on two fronts, one a war of exterminating against fucking Russia with an army that wasn't even completely mechanised and had tanks that could barely penetrate the armour of Russian t34s.

His rebuilding of Germany was financed by debt and looting other nations, always a solid sustainable strategy.

He killed political opponents and basically ended democracy, oh and attempted to commit genocide. The only praise worthy thing that piece of shit did was to shoot himself in the head and even that he too way too long to get around to

He paid for all the 'good' he did for his country by accruing a debt so large that he'd have to have won a world war to pay it back. That is not the action of a sane person, who in the world thinks they can win against unified enemies on two fronts and not lose? The only "good" that came of Hitler was that Germany eventually became an industrial powerhouse and because of his shit, a very liberal country.

that sure is working swell, huh? You can't trust them, little or big L. It's some kind of pathological conditioning that they feel that they have to "replace" everyone where they take root!

Research David Cole, Ernst Zündel, and the related vids that accompany them on YouTube.

Redpill. Activated.

No Jew died in a Gas Chamber. Zero. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CsrPt-enplw

http://boards.4chan.org/pol/thread/120714767

http://boards.4chan.org/pol/thread/119181111

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http://www.veteranstoday.com/2016/09/20/the-fall-of-the-holocaust-lie-and-the-rise-of-truth-and-reason/

What in the flying fuck has happened to this sub. I come back after a year and everyone has embraced fucking Nazi propaganda with a fervour that genuinely scares me.

And as someone who grew up around men and women who survived the holocaust and​ fought in World war 2, with the stories they told and the incredible losses they suffered.

Fuck everyone single one of you Nazi bastards. I hope you all someday experience even a fraction of the horror you're so eager to deny.

Agreed, let's stop arguing about what happened between the Nazis and Jews prior to 1945. Let's assume that Hitler and the Nazis did everything they were accused of.

We've had the Nuremberg trials, Wiesenthal hunted down many of the remaining war criminals, and history has recorded their evil deeds.

In 2017, Israel and the Zionism are the cancer today. We should have never established Israel in 1948. The vast majority of Jewish people had no interest in moving to Palestine. The Zionists wanted this.

We need to be able to openly discuss that Israel and Zionism are the primary stumbling blocks to peace in the middle east.

Agreed, let's stop arguing about what happened between the Nazis and Jews prior to 1945. Let's assume that Hitler and the Nazis did everything they were accused of.

We've had the Nuremberg trials, Wiesenthal hunted down many of the remaining war criminals, and history has recorded their evil deeds.

In 2017, Israel and the Zionism are the cancer today. We should have never established Israel in 1948. The vast majority of Jewish people had no interest in moving to Palestine. The Zionists wanted this.

We need to be able to openly discuss that Israel and Zionism are the primary stumbling blocks to peace in the middle east.

Oh shove it up your ass. There's plenty of people in this thread who genuinely consider themselves Nazis and you're not here nitpicking little details in history, you're striaght up denying things happened and trying to downplay the crimes of the Third Reich

Prussian blue does need to form in the presence of zyklon b. That's garbage level chemistry. Funny, there was however, cyanide found in the gas chambers.

Which rails were bombed, where and when?

counter-factual

Do you have any sources to disprove me that aren't blatantly Jewish our reporting a number that was reported by someone else.

And trying to imply that the Shoah Museum states that just 300k died in the extermination camps. Oh boy.

That's not what I am implying. I'm implying the only people who even have the audacity to suggest it was 6 million are those who profit off the Holocaust such as the Holocaust memorial etc