link please. And beware that you are probably reading a heavily revised version.

Do you know where to find an unrevised version?

The unrevised version is probably hidden somewhere far out of our reach.

Religion controls the masses. So does science. You can't have two masters controlling the masses. Religions will destroy other religions. It is an easy way to get rid of billions of Gentiles. Let them slaughter each other.

Science gets confused with absolute truth, whereas it's only a perspective. That is not to say that it is untrue, it's just that's it's a doctrine of shared understandings. A more complete truth about a subject would be to not only incorporate the tangible but stay open minded about the things we don't yet understand. Our knowledge about our reality is the size of a sand pebble in the Sahara. Science can hold us back because the egos of Scientists won't allow for new information that contradicts previous held assumptions.

"science" is who ever pays the most for the numbers to be considered "science"

Good explanation

Check out this formerly banned TEDx talk on scientific dogma: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1TerTgDEgUE

Peer review work would seem to militate against your assertion that science holds us back because of Scientist's egos. That statement of yours flies in the face of what science is and does.

Science IS all about contradicting previous held assumptions. Remember Galileo?

The Rothschilds and the "Red Symphony" https://www.henrymakow.com/000275.html

Science is more believable and is easier to manipulate people with. Look at the front page, all these people out on "marches for science" aren't on "marches for Christ" for a reason. A lot of people have figured out now that religion is bullshit and are turning to the cult of science instead. Little do they know there's already a plan in place to control them with that, too.

Yes, the worship of "science" (i.e. whatever the Experts declare to be scientifically true) will replace the worship of the classic religions as all religions are to be revealed as built on false pretenses (not by Gods but by alien beings posing as Gods).

Ten thousand march for science in London - April 22, 2017

Jews did not write that. It was the British and Masonry. Look into the B'nai B'rith lodges. Zionism wasn't driven by Jews, but the British.

Strategy of tension to keep the Middle East divided.

I keep hearing that the jews did not write it, is there any proves ?

It pretty blatantly copies from an earlier book by a French lawyer named Maurice Joly about Napoleon III. Here's a link examining similarities: http://www.history.ucsb.edu/faculty/marcuse/classes/33d/projects/protzion/DelaCruzProtocolsMain.htm

So it's a fake because it copies a real book ? That's a weak proof, I thought Protocol of Zion was clearly debunked.

That's actually very strong proof. Why would someone chronicling the supposed meetings blatantly steal from an earlier book if it wasn't fabricated? There's lots of inconsistencies that came along with this, like how the protocols call upon jews to remember the french revolution as an example of how great they were at manipulating the entire thing, while jews at that time had little to no part in the revolution. The old testament is quoted in latin, not Yiddish or Hebrew. The list goes on.

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What does it matter if its content is true and accurate?

If they're lying about who wrote it, are the contents true and accurate?

Or is it a British/Masonic plot to make you think "The Jews" are trying to take over the world?

In 2017 it is abundantly clear that the Khazarian Mafia has taken over the world to a large degree, and that it's goals and aspirations are behind the majority of turmoil in the world today.

genetic testing disproves the claims that ashkenazi jews are khazars and not related to other jews. even David Duke admitted this.

same with the protocols being 'jewish', mentioning several books in the talmud that actually do not exist. maybe they were writen by jews, but they are not in any way related to jewish religion.

this is not to say that there isn't an incredible amount of jews involved in the nwo, but they are not religious, nor does it have anything to do with religion. only in the sense that all top members of organized religion actually pervert the very roots of the religion they purport to uphold (see: orthodox jews who support israel, the vatican, wahabism, etc).

the jewish question is not as simple as most people postulate. there are many religious jews who oppose Israel (see: naturei karta), and there are many non-religious jews who contributed a great deal to freedom (Mises, Rothbard, Friedman).

maybe they were writen by jews, but they are not in any way related to jewish religion.

The joke us Jews tell to bump Jew-haters' heads is "we didn't write Protocols, but we did buy the copyrights."

ahaha. unfortunately conspiracy theorists are just like most everyone else and see everything as 'black and white'.

No one cares. Leave the US alone please.

I hear this term thrown around all the time, but I genuinely don't even know who the Khazarian Mafia is. Who are these people? Where is the membership list? What is there history?

I use the term interchangably with The Cabal, because I heard that it is the term that members use themselves.

This is the group you are expecting- globalists and zionists and maybe Jesuits, with the Rothschilds at the top.

It is a more accurate than Illuminati.

Yeah, that's true.

This is the group you are expecting- globalists and zionists and maybe Jesuits, with the Rothschilds at the top.

Ok. I think we generally agree. The group of rich bankers, guys running huge corporations, heads of secret societies, people in the top policy groups like CFR, Blderberg, Council for National Policy, Pilgrims, etc.

I think saying Khazarian Mafia has racial connotations I don't understand and it might be propaganda anyway. So I'm back to saying Rothschild Zionists but I think "they" are probably the Sabbatean-Frankist Judaic cultists, doing crazy shit for prophecy.

Start reading the protocols because of the Ronald Bernard interview?

Nice, same. Still need to read through. Also, don't mean to be an asshole but it's "piqued". Cheers.

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Religion is supposed to unite people but they messed it up so it divides people.

If I remember correctly. The PoZ was re writtend years ago. The original text is different than the one floating out there now.

It seems clear to me that many founding zionists were atheists/agnostics, and anti-Jewish sentiment at the time resulted in the Christian Right decrying the anti-religious activities of globalists at the turn of the century.

OG copy/paste fake news. Late 19th century /pol fuckery. Fanfiction LARPing at it's most "effective."

Jews know that Christianity is the true religion. However, Jesus says in the Bible, that all ethnic Jews, are children of Satan. The Jews want to destroy religion, because that stops Europeans from going to Heaven. They want everyone to go to Hell with them

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Protocols_of_the_Elders_of_Zion

Because they become amoral.

That is such fucking bullshit, religion is just a way to get good (but dumb) people to do terrible shit

Amoral, pah! I spit on that statement... Anyone who believes morality comes from religion is living inside a giant blue pill

That is such fucking bullshit, religion is just a way to get good (but dumb) people to do terrible shit

Then why is it only religious people that seem to realize Communism and Islam are evil? The moral-less Priests of Scientist and Cultural Marxists think we should respect their culture diversity and let them destroy Western civilization. Of course, any religion can become dogmatic and bad. But, as Nietsche proved, when there is no religion to ideologically solidify the people together, then there is only two results: Master Morality (Every man for himself, eugenics, Hitler) and Slave Morality (Everyone must be equal, political correctness, Gulag Archipelago).

Religion plays a vitally necessary role in human evolution because people evolve in groups. Why do think there isn't any 2000 year old Atheist groups? Christianity is 2000 years old. Hinduism could be 10,000 years old. Atheism breeds lonerism and countries full of loners get stomped by Islam (see Sweden and Germany).

Our Founding Fathers hated organized religion but still believed in God. All the same arguments for Atheism existed then as do today (there is no argument for Atheism that wasn't made by Hume). Do you know why they still believed in God while they said they hated religion and the Church? It's kind of important to the Philosophic foundation of the country but all the atheists I meet have no idea. Hint: It's Thomas Paine's main argument in The Rights of Man.

Please tell me more about how sweden got stomped by islam... I live here, about 5 minutes from Rinkeby (where all the loco people tried to make sweden a world topic) and we are not getting devoured by islam...

It just strikes me as playing on bitter old mens nostalgia for the time of their youth, and wanting to return to it.

Do you think your particular culture is going to prosper forever? Would it even have the right to do so? Was it really so much better when you were a little sapling?

You are very very entrenched in the tribal mentality of "us vs them"

By the way, I love how you are warning about the evils of islam while waxing poetic on the virtues of religion as a guiding light for humans... that kind of cognitive dissonance is kind of cute!

But hey, let me guess... since I am a swede I am probably a filthy commie or socialist who is actively trying to kill all that is good and proper in the world?

Any kind of tribalism is close-minded, but yours is pretty far up there :s

If you are wondering why there are no 2000 year old atheist groups, perhaps it is because your dear old grand pappy killed them all for not believing in the sky man?

we are not getting devoured by islam...

This shit just started a couple years ago. What kind of society is your child going to grow up in? Do you support mass immigration into your country? Why?

Do you think your particular culture is going to prosper forever?

You're right. Because we've given up our values for Leftist beta guilt death. America will someday collapse under the weight of it's own debt. But who's ever in power at the time it goes down will most likely decide what comes after America.

You are very very entrenched in the tribal mentality of "us vs them"

Have you ever considered how the Muslims pouring into your country feel about you?

Any kind of tribalism is close-minded,

Even when you are under attack? Is there any point at which you would defend yourself from an enemy or do you REALLY FUCKING BELIEVE that people don't have to become tribal at some points in order to protect their country, way of life, and children's future.

WAKE UP YOU FUCKING SWEDISH CUCK. What is wrong with you fucking beta pussies. Muslims are being left off rape charges because they DONT UNDERSTAND "NO": https://www.infowars.com/muslim-avoids-jail-for-anally-raping-teen-because-he-couldnt-understand-no/

Damn, how can you be such a spineless pussy. This is why Leftists hate Christian males. We stand for something. Have you ever heard the saying "If you don't stand for something, you fall for everything." That's you. That's Sweden. Your country will not exist 100 years from now.

I support mass immigration into my country, yes. Because I understand that being born here was a lucky roll of the dice, and there are many unfortunates who are born somewhere way more terrible. If you can look into the eyes of a six-year-old fleeing from war, say "NO, we are not letting you in here!", and still call yourself a good christian then america in general is in even worse intellectual shape than I thought!

Please, link me more infowars articles to prove how wrong I am about my country and how smart you are ;)

What I am trying to get through to you (dosent seem to be working so well though, does it?) is that people "having to get tribal to protect their country" is equally idiotic, due to your country being made up by invisible borders on a map, drawn by someone a long time ago... All this to compartmentalize and exploit idiots like you, by dividing them and having them squabble amongst each other while they make all the money...

Then again, I would hardly expect you to ever understand... with luck, perhaps your children or grandchildren will, when they remember you and how you used to swear about how all the fax machines are gone now, but they were everywhere when you were a youngster...

I bet they wont though, since you are probably raising them not to question anything, and keep their heads firmly in the sand.

Perhaps my great grandchildren will join ISIS and hang them?

I support mass immigration into my country, yes. Because I understand that being born here was a lucky roll of the dice, and there are many unfortunates who are born somewhere way more terrible. If you can look into the eyes of a six-year-old fleeing from war, say "NO, we are not letting you in here!", and still call yourself a good christian then america in general is in even worse intellectual shape than I thought!

LOLOLOLOLOLOLOL. Ohhhhhhhh mmmyyyyyy ggooooddd. Sweden is done. I can't even read anymore. It's so sad but at the same time it's so pathetic.

Okay whatever, sweden is done...

Go back to hugging Netanyahu and slobbering over his dick why dont you... Since that is all america is these days

But here, try this: When you have your next child, leave him in the woods alone and see how well he survives... then proceed to blame jesus

I have no idea what this means.

It means that humans are nothing without cooperation... A baby deer is ready to go it alone in a few weeks, we humans need (arguably) 18 years...

It means that humans are nothing without cooperation

Right. But blowing you up and raping you and trying to change your society to Sharia law IS NOT cooperation. Why do you think Muslims aren't assimilating?

Muslims are assimilating... it takes usually less than a generation

I have many friends here whose parents are devout muslims, but they all eat pork, drink alcohol etc... Trust me, sweden is more corrosive to islam than islam is to sweden :)

That positive news. Sorry for being cynical. Please help the Muslims assimilate and please take pride in your culture. It is important that Swedish culture and hospitality remain thriving.

Hey I think we are not so different after all!

Sometimes, I get scared for our collective future here as well, but swedish culture is quite peculiar in many regards.

And most importantly, we cannot become what we hate. We have to be the older brother who tries to let the younger siblings understand the error of their ways :) There is nothing evil about people born in a certain country, more like they have certain "evil" tendencies that have been normalized since infancy for them... And trust me, I am no fan of Islam. But I would prefer it if the death knells of it coincided with the death knells of all the other organised religions out there :)

It wasnt fucking LUCK that you had the culture you have in Sweden. Your ancestors worked hard for it. You are not just a random fucking roll of the dice. You are the results of thousands of years of evolution. Of vikings fighting. Of the original Swedes founding the country and building it up. Of your culture, of your heritage and the family that came before you.

WHY ARE YOU SUCH A WEAK FUCKING PUSSY.

Oh yeah, you are just assuming that my genetics are swedish for thousands of years back... this is very telling of the silly little rules for right and wrong you have put up in order to make the formless shifting sea of grey into some easily digestible black and white clarity ;)

Sorry, you are mistaken. And (Just in case you didnt know) We can all trace our lineage back to the first life on this planet...

But I am sure you think that was only 6000 years ago, and that it was due to a "women et aple and snek get mad" type scenario

But I am sure you think that was only 6000 years ago, and that it was due to a "women et aple and snek get mad" type scenario

I don't believe in anything supernatural or literal about the bible. Bible stories are simply examples of how to act. When everyone in a society acts like Jesus, that society will thrive. When everyone acts like Muhammed, everyone must submit to Sharia. Simple as that.

Check out the concept of Group Selection Theory. There is a very clear evolutionary purpose for religion. It sets a common set of goals for a group and the people identify not individually but with the "higher principle" of the group. This is why religious groups persist and atheist groups don't. And then "New Atheists" discover these old ideas and believe they've come up with something original.

Of course, if you had a massive immigration of people that respected you and your culture, that learned the language, and wanted to become Swedish, then everything would be fine. If it was a bunch of Hindu Indians flooding into Sweden there would be no concern and I wouldn't care. But you are allowing a special kind of mental cancer into your country. The cancer of Islam.

You are mocking me for believing in Jesus (in an allegorical sense, I don't believe he actually performed miracles or rose from the dead). Yet, at the same time, you are allowing EVEN NUTTIER religious zealots in en masse. If there's something so deranged about me for believing in Christianity, how can possibly support FUCKING MUSLIMS pouring in? Only an Atheist can be so retarded.

My view is we have taken them here for deprogramming :)

If you are wondering why there are no 2000 year old atheist groups, perhaps it is because your dear old grand pappy killed them all for not believing in the sky man?

So how come Atheists got beat into extinction by religious people? How was it that religious people were more evolutionarily viable. And which groups are you specifically talking about from history?

Dont know if you noticed, but it is generally the religious and not the atheist that tries to convert their neighbors

(at least historically, this is starting to change with the internet... ignorance is losing ground)

Aside from this, what is your point? That the religious people were stronger than them? Or just more numerous?

I honestly do not really understand what you are trying to say, besides the fact that I cannot be moral since I do not believe some dirty hippy who lived 2000 odd years ago rose from the grave...

I honestly do not really understand

Without bringing back either their religion or their love of their own country and culture (Patriotism), Europe will fall to Islam.

Nah, trust me... the people who come here, their children will be swedish... or their children, failing that.

The world is getting less and less religious each passing year, so that hardly seems like it is gonna be a problem.

What do you even mean when you say "fall to islam"?

It is okay to be a muslim here... And also okay to be a christian, or an atheist.

Basically, what you are doing is the same as me saying we have to stand up and fight vs the christians, using only westbro baptist church as an example of how crazy they are!

I dont care if someone wears a headscarf, or eats pork...

. the people who come here, their children will be swedish... or their children, failing that.

The Battaclan theater massacre was done by second generation Muslims that were born in France.

The world is getting less and less religious each passing year,

The West is. The middle East is just as Muslim as it's ever been. And we now have ISIS and mass immigration as well.

It is okay to be a muslim here... And also okay to be a christian, or an atheist.

Why are Muslims being held to a different legal standard than Swedish men? Why isn't there an open discussion about it without being called racist? Why does the Swedish government lie and cover up Islamic attacks.

Basically, what you are doing is the same as me saying we have to stand up and fight vs the christians, using only westbro baptist church as an example of how crazy they are!

The westboro baptist church has yet to drive a semi through a shopping market. Let alone in three different countries within in months of each other.

I dont care if someone wears a headscarf, or eats pork...

How about female genital mutilation? How about child marriage? Or honor killings? Do you believe that there is anything a Muslim can do that you would say is evil?

See what happens to atheists. They lose their moral compass and lose themselves in moral relativism. "Nah man, it's just their culture! It's not evil! He didn't mean to rape her. He didn't know" You reach out your hand to help, and they know they are going to cut it off. Just listen dude: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vt2WwZtNx7M

You are fucked.

Yawn

I am gonna guess you are gonna have an aneurism soon, since you obviously have the weight of the world on your shoulders. Of course there are many things withing islam that I disagree with, and also the same is true for swedish society in general. Morals are transient and change over time. Just look at the victorian era, if you want.

You strike me as someone who needs to get out more, and meet more people... (not other people from the /r/whackychristianblusterers subreddit, since they will just reinforce your delusion

and also the same is true for swedish society in general.

Oh my god you relativist fucking asshole. Swedish culture does not permit cutting female clits off and killing daughters that don't cover themselves. Are you fucking psychotic?

Perhaps I did not make myself entirely clear... or perhaps comprehension simply will not come easy to some people... Ask Jesus or your dad who made you into such an idiot. whoever you think is more to blame...

Ok. Good luck "cooperating" with the Muslims dude. I actually do hope it works out better than I am making it out to be. But if Swedish women start wearing hijabs to be safe, that would be bad right?

Yes, that would be bad... and it may induce some of the good old viking rage you seem to yearn for...

I am not saying that we will tolerate everything over here, but we will tolerate a lot of things in order to try and make everybody comfortable.

I keep hearing that the jews did not write it, is there any proves ?

What does it matter if its content is true and accurate?

That's actually very strong proof. Why would someone chronicling the supposed meetings blatantly steal from an earlier book if it wasn't fabricated? There's lots of inconsistencies that came along with this, like how the protocols call upon jews to remember the french revolution as an example of how great they were at manipulating the entire thing, while jews at that time had little to no part in the revolution. The old testament is quoted in latin, not Yiddish or Hebrew. The list goes on.

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