God is dead... and no one cares... if there is a Hell... I'll see you there.

Misery likes company

After roasting in a lake of fire for like half of eternity wouldn't just be super satisfying to know that one day Satan would be tossed with you in that same lake and ya just kinda point and laugh at him at that point.

But you'll be roasting forever and ever and ever. The roasting fire will never end, you wouldn't even have time to laugh, you'll just be wailing and gnashing your teeth. Heaven sounds infinitely better than hell.

Seems like I'd prolly kinda get used to it after a few 100 years... plus it's gotta be soooooo satisfying to see the dude that tortured you for so long get the same treatment... like I think that would be a super funny day in Hell... everyone would be like "Oh fuck! Satan is in the lake of fire! Look everyone! Look at that bastard! Hahaha... don't like that do ya, big guy? Haha... now you what it feels like."

If Hell is real... then Satan is real... haven't you seen TV? He's red and has horns and goat legs... got a pitchfork...

That's not up to me to decide... but that's where the Bible says he's gonna end up. Must see TV.

Yeah... thats what is gonna make it so funny. Cause the "I was just doing my job!" excuse hasn't worked out very well in the past for a wide variety of other people.

When your soul is condemned in hell, you won't be laughing know that it'll be forever. I'm sure God made hell so you'll never get used to the pain, it's not called eternal punishment for nothing.

Yeah... but forever is such a long time... and it would be sooooo hilarious the day that Satan gets tossed in the lake of fire... soooo funny. Taste of his own medicine. That day would be soooo epic... and all the people in Heaven would totally miss out on it.

If the only joy you get from going to hell, would be to see satan get thrown into the lake of fire, then the cost out weights the benefits. One small laugh for an eternity of hell. To each their own.

Small laugh? That would be the most epic joke ever... Plus what if one day God comes back to rescue all the POWs cause he feels bad for them after half of eternity?

Read the Bible and you'll learn that there's no mercy after judgement, you'll be in there forever.

Eh... it was written a long time ago... God is allowed to change his mind.

I was just quoting a Nine Inch Nails song... I think Hell might be real... maybe not... just to be sure I made sure to accept Jesus Christ as my Lord and Savior... There was a place you can fill out your name/signature in the back of the Bible that is a "Get into Heaven for free" card.

Eh... I dunno... like... if the Joker kidnapped me I'd be surprised... but I wouldn't really be too surprised when Batman saved me... cause they are both part of the same fictional universe.

Well they are both the same exact amount of fake... Just like Jesus and Hell... if RoboCop told me to duck cause ED-209 was gonna shoot at me... I'd duck... cause if RoboCop is real... then I betch ED-209 is too... If Luke Skywalker told me to go find C3P0... I'd prolly see if I could find him... I wouldn't be like "Fuck you Luke... C3P0 isn't real."

I'm not scared... cause like Hell has gotta have a bunch of interesting people there... and like everyone that died before Jesus was born... they all went to hell with no chance of redemption. I'll stand in solidarity with them... if my signing the Bible thing doesn't work.

"That Terminator is out there! It can't be bargained with. It can't be reasoned with. It doesn't feel pity, or remorse, or fear. And it absolutely will not stop... ever, until you are dead!"

Eh... my Bible says I'm gonna go to Heaven... easy peasy... I dunno why most people don't sign the back page like I did.

Good question... which terminators are we talking about? I think T-1000 wouldn't go to Hell... but a T-800 probably would because they have organic skin instead of a mimetic poly-alloy... but would they go to Heaven if they were programmed with Prime Directives 100% in tune with the Bible? Cause I dunno if they could follow the original 613 Commandments... they could prolly handle 10 very well though... cause John told the T-800 not to kill anyone and he incapacitated like 40 cops with no fatalities.

Terminators follow directions very well.

I don't think Terminators exhibited much freethought... they had a wide variety of protocols that must be adhered to... Even at the end of T2, Arnold was not allowed to self-terminate.

People are the same... we are pre-programmed with internal mechanisms beyond our control... core-beliefs... morals... and when we act in according to these beliefs, then we really don't have free thought.

I can't believe we live in an age where Nine Inch Nails lyrics get downvoted.

Fuck off

You sound angry.

The US is hell. Are you not paying attention? Satanic rituals on TV, the leaders rape and murder children, 666 and Saturnic imagery everywhere...

The US is actual Hell. Most people just don't realize it yet.

Reading through your daily posts asking if people are scared is my own personal hell (:

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Why would you want demons to be real?

Very much about experience.

Had you done some minor searching, you would have seen the shear number of individuals for thousands of years have experienced demons... They are very real to some.

You ask if hell is real... Of course it is.

Or are you talking about cartoons here when you go down the hell hole and all of a sudden its fire and lava and more posts like this.

Hell is alive and well .. It just might not be what cartoons tell you it is. This certianly aint no heaven for the modest and caring human.

if the universe is indeed infinite than it is a statistical inevitability

Bingo

In my mind, if God created the world, and intended for us all to be different cultures and different religions, meaning only some folks would grow up Christian, and only they get to go to heaven, then God can fuckin blow me. Because he's an asshole. Everybody who doesn't grow up worshiping Jesus has to burn in hell for eternity when they die? Fuck all that.

That doesn't mean anything, infinite "possibilities" doesn't really mean anything, paradoxes occur, under infinite possibilities of like... Anything you can think of, eventually you will get an all-powerful being that has power over all possibilities, in essence, God.

Said being would decide if a place of punishment/rehabilitation/purgatory exists.

I see conspiracy/r/new is proceeding as usual for a Saturday night.

Well, if you went to hell, you wouldn't be here right now so quit wasting our time.

Fair enough. We're on reddit in the middle of the night. Not any actual time wasted here.

No, I do not. Even if it did exist why should I be scared of it.

Isn't hell a plane of fire, where you are burned, torched, whipped, chained, to be raped by demons dicks for all eternity?

We are already living in hell. The people in the world act like they are living in hell.

I don't know and don't care if it's real. If it's real, than its out of my hands. I live my life to be a good person by my own terms and morals, not the one dictated to me by an invisible being floating on a cloud. Here's the thing with religions. If you give yourself to the God for that religion and beg for forgiveness than your in heaven, right? So, you go murder people and feel sorry and beg for forgiveness and are off the hook? No, thanks. I'd rather be in the hell with all the honest folks.

Literally, paragraph of how backwards religion turns people. No, I'm not afraid of hell because who's to say my version of what hell is isn't so bad? Unless you've been there, than this whole post is mute. And yes, I was honest. If hell is a burning Lake of fire, I'd take that over "what exactly it takes" to get into heaven according to "god". Hell would be honest folks not hiding behind there mistakes thru a false god.

How much Kool aid did you drink? So, your not an honest person? You'd call yourself a liar? You don't make any sense. I think people end up where they're mind believes they deserve. If you think you are bad, you'll end up in a bad place. If you think you are good, your mind will create a safe happy place. It's like your final and ever lasting dream. I don't believe in hell, so it doesn't scare me. I said I'd happily go there, to typical religious "version" of hell bc religion is so backasswards. When I die, I die. I accept that, and my mind is neutral on the matter. It just is what it is. And I know I am a good, kind person, so when I die, there is no fear bc I'm going somewhere I'm meant to be, which will ultimately in some way or another be safe and happy. Do you need reassuring for any particular reason on this hell matter? Seems you are itching and scratching a bit.

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Hell is not real. Again, I don't fear things that don't exist. Much like I don't fear spidrakes(half spider, half snake). Both have the same thing in common, made up.. Can you feel what I'm layin' down?

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Nope.

I simply don't believe it exists so I can't be scared. I believe in God though. I Neo he we all go to heaven. There are consequences to bad behavior but I don't think he'll i one of them.

For God so loved the world that he sent his only begotten son, that whosever doesn't believe in him can fuck off and burn in the hell for all eternity.

That's God-Love, right there.

But nope. Hell is just one more bogeyman, in a long list of things you're supposed to be afraid of.

No, and no.

I think that "god", or rather, his servants' leaders do as much as they can to create hell right here on Earth. The fear of an imagined hell is just used to keep the sheep in their pen.

Don't project too much into it. People are capable of good on their own, without need of a magical sky father to take all the credit. In my honest opinion, "god" is the true evil in the world. He is responsible for more genocide, rape, torture, and suffering than any tyrant in history. Just look at the invasion of Canaan for a glimpse of what he's really like.

The greatest trick the devil ever pulled, was not convincing people that he didn't exist. It was convincing them that he was God. And that he "loves" them.

I think "hell" can be a state of mind. Maybe those who believe there is a hell would experience it. I've read about someone's NDE (near death experience), he claimed he went to hell.

Perhaps you ultimately end up where your mind believes you deserve to go and it's a permanent dream there on out?

I think that's possible, imo, if we're able "to create" our 'world' by what we think.

Did you see the movie (starring Robin Williams) called "What Dreams May Come"? I realize it was a movie, but some people really believe in a heaven & hell.

Plot:
While vacationing in Switzerland, pediatrician Chris Nielsen (Robin Williams) meets artist Annie Collins (Annabella Sciorra). They are attracted to each other, and bond as if they had known each other for a long time. They marry and have two children, Ian (Josh Paddock) and Marie (Jessica Brooks Grant). Their idyllic life ends when the children die in a car crash. Life becomes difficult: Annie suffers a mental breakdown and the couple contemplates divorce, but they manage through their losses.

On the anniversary of the day they decided not to divorce, Chris is also killed in a car crash. Unaware that he is dead, and confused that no one will interact with him, Chris lingers on Earth. He sees Annie's attempts to cope with his loss and attempts to communicate with her, despite advice from a presence that this will only cause her more pain. When his attempts cause more sorrow, he decides to move on.

Chris awakens in Heaven, and learns that his immediate surroundings can be controlled by his imagination. He meets a man (Cuba Gooding Jr.) he recognizes as Albert, his friend and mentor from his medical residency, and the presence from his time as a "ghost" on Earth. Albert will guide and help in this new afterlife. Albert teaches Chris about his existence in Heaven, and how to shape his little corner, and to travel to others' "dreams". They are surprised when a Blue Jacaranda tree appears unbidden in Chris' surroundings, matching a tree in a new painting by Annie, inspired by Annie's belief that she can communicate with Chris in the afterlife. Albert explains that this is a sign that the couple are truly soul mates. Annie decides that Chris cannot "see" the painting, however, and destroys it. At the same time, Chris sees his version of the tree disintegrate before his eyes.

Chris laments that he can no longer see his wife and soon encounters a woman who he comes to recognize as his daughter Marie, living in an area resembling a diorama that she loved in her lifetime. The two share a tearful reunion.

Meanwhile, Annie is unable to cope with the loss of her husband and decides to commit suicide. Chris, who is initially relieved that her suffering is done, grows angry when he learns that those who commit suicide go to Hell; this is not the result of a judgment made against them, but rather their own tendency to create "nightmare" afterlife worlds based on their pain. Chris is adamant that he will rescue Annie from Hell, despite Albert's insistence that no one has ever succeeded in doing so with a suicide. Albert agrees to find Chris a "tracker" to help search for Annie's soul.

On the journey to Hell, Chris recalls his son, Ian. Remembering how he'd called him the one man he'd want at his side to brave Hell, Chris realizes that Albert is truly Ian. Ian explains that he chose Albert's appearance because he knew that Chris would listen to Albert without reservation. Before they part, Ian begs Chris to remember how he saved his marriage following Ian and Marie's deaths. Chris then journeys onward with the tracker.

Chris must walk across the field of Faces of the Damned, stepping on their faces as he navigates across it. The damned can be heard talking, including a businesswoman who says she never over-billed her clients. Chris and the tracker arrive at a dark and twisted version of Chris and Annie's house. The tracker then reveals himself as the real Albert and warns Chris that if he stays with Annie for more than a few minutes he may be permanently trapped in Hell, advising that all Chris can reasonably expect is an opportunity for a final farewell to Annie.

Chris enters their now-horrific looking home to find Annie suffering from amnesia, unable to remember her suicide, and visibly tortured by her decrepit surroundings. Unable to stir her memories, the tracker sees Chris give up his quest to save Annie from Hell. But instead of returning to Heaven, Chris chooses to join Annie forever in Hell. As he declares to Annie his intent to stay, his words parallel something he'd said to her as he left her in an institution following the children's deaths, and she regains her memories while Chris is making her nightmare his. Annie, wanting nothing more than to save Chris, ascends to Heaven, bringing Chris with her.

Chris and Annie are reunited with their children in Heaven, and all appearances are restored. Chris proposes reincarnation, so he and Annie can experience life together again. The film ends with Chris and Annie meeting again as young children in a situation that parallels their first meeting."
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/What_Dreams_May_Come_(film)

That could be true. Or maybe, (this is just a thought), if "religion" is a means of controlling people, then 'hell' is the means to make them conform.

I'd like to think that Hell would exist completely outside of any belief system

So even those that don't believe it exist, could go there? I don't feel that's true because we (mentally) can create what we experience.

Now it may be possible that an "evil" person having a conscious (about the wrongs they did) could put them in hell after death.

I actually don't think you can mentally create what you experience.

(smile) Ok, but I do.

I've no doubt the evil will get what they deserve & I hope it's sooner than later.

Yes I do.

Yes...

Yes. Everyone will be judged by God for their own actions. Nobody will intercede for you

I sure hope it's real, because there are a lot of people who need to go there so they can burn for eternity.

Why do you think anybody should burn for eternity? You realize that is just sadism right? Not even one of those elite pedos or w/e deserve such a fate, the mere eternity of it implies an injustice as it is over finite sins.

Do you think hell is real? If so, can you describe it? Who do you think is running it?

And what would you like to think about the lake of fire?

And in your opinion, who determines whether a person is evil or good? And what is that determining factor?

No, but it certainly is a fantastic and long lasting conspiracy.

It is one of those things only believers have to worry about.

It is not part of my beliefs so there is no there to me.

Is it real? Doubt it. Am I scared to go there? No. If God is all seeing and all knowing then he would know that I'd end up in Hell before he even made me, therefore there would be no point in creating me in the first place. Unless God is just making me to go to Hell which would contradict all religion.

Hell is a religious tool of conversion, outside of that, no idea, however, the mere fact that it is currently a tool of conversion makes me not take it seriously.

I do not believe in the bible so I don't believe hell in the biblical sense exists.

Check this song out tell me what you think.

Reality is what you perceive it to be. No one persons reality is the same. With that said in my reality Christianity is about as real as harry potter. When a Christian starts talking about how if they live right by Jesus they will get into some make believe land in the sky when they day is the equivilant of me a huge Harry Potter fan actually believing a wizarding world exist and that my letter for Hogwarts got lost in the mail. So to answer the first part of your question , No I do not believe in hell or heaven. To answer the second part no I am not scarred of a place that is a fictional place, that would essentially be the same as me being afraid of Voldemort or Darth Vader.

define hell

in the Bible hell is depicted as a lake of fire. Have heard the center of earth described this way, makes me think of Cern drilling down into it.

Lol no

I don't know if it is real or not. But I do believe there is some king of after life.

Buddy, hell is up here

No, hell is just a conception made up to control people and manipulate by fear.

Well, if you went to hell, you wouldn't be here right now so quit wasting our time.

Well they are both the same exact amount of fake... Just like Jesus and Hell... if RoboCop told me to duck cause ED-209 was gonna shoot at me... I'd duck... cause if RoboCop is real... then I betch ED-209 is too... If Luke Skywalker told me to go find C3P0... I'd prolly see if I could find him... I wouldn't be like "Fuck you Luke... C3P0 isn't real."