R/Pol might be a better place for this. There is insider business taking place, however it's not really hidden.

The better question might be, what's the deal with the widespread alliance of forces against him?

The enemy of my enemy is my friend.

pretty obvious he's a crappy president

How does this make him different from the last 4? The only difference is the coverage and the confederacy of establishment powers working against him. Also thanks to Trump hysteria, the deep state started operating in the open. That was just a "conspiracy theory" until this election.

Well, for starters, even Bush pushed some decent social programs, especially student loan repayment. Trump's budget calls for the elimination of a lot of programs that help people out. Basically they become economic hand cuffs and it pulls monetary power, or what little there ever was, from the proles.

That said, you have liberals cheering on the FBI, which is just crazy.

Well from a business standpoint, I like how he is removing regulations, which reduce competition and cost huge amounts to monitor and enforce. TPP being gone day one was a good start, but there is still a lot more to do in that arena. I also like the rule "for every new regulation you have to remove two existing ones". Regulations have been weaponized by lobbyists primarily against smaller local competitors, and creates an unreasonably high bar of entry for smaller businesses to enter an industry, let alone compete.

The warmonger liberals are the ones that strike me as one of the oddest about face turns I can remember. Most of them are politicians and media who are using the stance for political expedience, but some of the normal people who trust the media go along.

Do you like the hundreds of billions in tax cuts for the 2%? He campaigned against that.

That is funny because I remember him saying that EVERYONE would have their taxes cut to encourage repatriation of funds that have been locked outside the US. The catch would be that he might cut the higher brackets less than the lower ones.

The biggest loophole for the rich isn't with income taxes though. It is capital gains. If you want to focus on the 1 or 2%, that is where you should focus. Most rich people don't actually work to maintain their wealth, so this is often used as a misdirection. Returns on investments it the actual way the rich stay rich.

As someone who will lose healthcare and a program I planned on using when getting my masters degree, I couldn't care less how the rich get rich. I care about the proles getting equal footing.

I don't have a grasp on economics, so I'm not even going to front. Let's call it a wash. You like his ideas, I think they are poison and establishment, just like the rest.

Trump's full scale war is on the poor. It's right here on our own soil.

He isn't even hiding his business dealings. It's blatant and his supporters don't care. Meanwhile Obama recently gave a speech and got paid for it, and everyone is criticizing him for it even though he isn't in office anymore. I don't get it.

Obama is black and his middle name is Hussain.

I think he's the best President we've had since JFK.

But, it wasn't like his competition was anything to brag about.

Do tell, what are some of the things that make him comparable to JFK. I bet if I told you that Jimmy Carter was non-establishment, you'd tell me I was crazy. they smeared him to get Reagan in there because Reagan would do everything he could to kill off minorities and start a war not only on people with dark skin, but the middle class, creating inflation and crushing the hopes and dreams of hundreds of millions before they were even born.

Best president since JFK? Jesus Christ.

I didn't say he was comparable. I said he is the best President since. I really don't give a fuck if you agree or not.

Yeah, he's a real stand up guy.

I don't give a shit if he says mean things in the media.

Outside of putting Hillary in prison, he's done or in the process of doing everything he's said he's gonna do.

This conversation isn't worth happening. You're brainwashed

Like not trying to cut medicare?

Affordable health care for all, with a system better than the aca in how long did he say? I don't remember but his deadlines up.

Plan to eradicate isis within his first 30 days?

Draining the swamp?

Literally the only thing hes kept his promise on is backing out of the tpp, he's done nothing of what he said other than back up the fact that he's not fit to be president. Just because he ran with an r next to his name doesn't mean you have to swallow his shit and say he's feeding you chocolate.

You can choose to be miserable. I will choose not to be.

Trump2020

I'm honestly not miserable, I just don't understand your line of thinking. But no sarcasm, I appreciate the response and you not trying to be a dick about it.

Noone can say You're not loyal. Ha.

Dude is probably gonna go down as the worst President in history. Right next to Nixon.

Maybe to you.

Worst President since Nixon has been Obama imo.

I do see how. Obama simply didn't do anything significant and your bigotry gets in the way also.

Bigotry? Go fuck yourself. Seriously. People like you always wanna throw out that word just because he's considered a minority when it's convenient.

There it is again. I'm sorry you can't see it

What this boils down to is you being a pussified liberal.

We can agree to disagree.

Nope. It definitely boils down to you being a bigot. You don't even know my political stance. Lol.

I don't need to know your political stance.

Anybody who is going to call someone a bigot simply because one doesn't like a President's policies is a liberal piece of shit.

Well that's a false statement.

Why are you even messaging me?

Well at first it was a debate. Now it's turned into making you look like the ass you are....who downvotes people who don't agree with you.

There is nothing to debate you fuckin' dope.

The OP asked everyone what they think about Trump and I replied.

And because you can't accept it, you want to turn this into some stupid arguement where you feel like you've won.

I don't feel like I won though. Lol You're hilarious

Not as hilarious as you.

Nice comeback

Why are you messaging me still?

You don't like Trump. I get it. You can run along now.

He will go down in history as President who destroyed US.

Trump lost money on the election. Normally I'd agree with you and say every politician is lining their pockets but he doesn't need to, he's already rich.

You don't think with the entire country viewing his ass under a microscope (with headlines of him putting ketchup on his steak, getting two scoops etc.) that he would even attempt these?

With a 'small loan of a million dollars'

Trump is not losing money.

He's saving money at this point, there's even been government funded advertising for his properties pushed through other governments. Not to mention whatever money he borrowed/was donated to him that are now being paid back by being in office with political favors.

He also can't actually refuse the salary, he could donate it, but he wouldn't ever show proof of that, he'd just give you his word, which is only believed by a small number of gullible people.

And Ivanka may have lost some sales through certain department stores, but she sure is fuck isn't losing more than she's making, especially after being granted a Chinese trademark after a government meeting, plus whatever she gets out of her new government job,

Just because he ran as a Republican doesn't mean you have to close your eyes to his bullshit. And don't let his pairing with pence trick you into believing he has any of those "Christian morals," everybody always talks about.

Trump is not losing money.

He's saving money at this point, there's even been government funded advertising for his properties pushed through other governments. Not to mention whatever money he borrowed/was donated to him that are now being paid back by being in office with political favors.

He also can't actually refuse the salary, he could donate it, but he wouldn't ever show proof of that, he'd just give you his word, which is only believed by a small number of gullible people.

And Ivanka may have lost some sales through certain department stores, but she sure is fuck isn't losing more than she's making, especially after being granted a Chinese trademark after a government meeting, plus whatever she gets out of her new government job,

Just because he ran as a Republican doesn't mean you have to close your eyes to his bullshit. And don't let his pairing with pence trick you into believing he has any of those "Christian morals," everybody always talks about.

He's funny... I love the character. Not so big on the Presidential version of him though, but I don't think he's nearly as bad as people make him out to be.

They elected a businessman to the Presidency, why anyone was surprised he put other successful business types in his cabinet is hilarious to me. Why anyone thinks he's going to be different then others is crazy too. The Presidency is like handling a business and that's what he's doing. I don't agree with a lot he has tried to do or did do, or the apparent collusion with Russia....

If he's guilty of a real crime then he should pay the penalty. But if he didn't do anything, hopefully he can just try and do a better job and earn the respect of those who don't like him

He's great. Not so sure he needs more money though.

Better than Hillary. That's enough for me.

WSJ I subscribe, so I'm not sure what you'll see at this link.

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I'll grab some quotes when I'm at a computer.

Obama is black and his middle name is Hussain.

As someone who will lose healthcare and a program I planned on using when getting my masters degree, I couldn't care less how the rich get rich. I care about the proles getting equal footing.

I don't have a grasp on economics, so I'm not even going to front. Let's call it a wash. You like his ideas, I think they are poison and establishment, just like the rest.

I do see how. Obama simply didn't do anything significant and your bigotry gets in the way also.

There is nothing to debate you fuckin' dope.

The OP asked everyone what they think about Trump and I replied.

And because you can't accept it, you want to turn this into some stupid arguement where you feel like you've won.