Sounds about right. I just have one question, how do we know it's not Deep State vs Deeper State?

Do we demand a real government or just a return to business as usual? I have no idea what that would be.

I vote anarchy.

Anarchy seems about right

Let's just stick with a uncorrupted democratic republic

A voice of reason in a sea of chaos. +1

When a heavily Astroturfed effort is able to convince large parts of the population that the Commander in Chief of the largest military industrial organization the world has ever seen is a victim and not "in on it," and not simply the newest star performer of the political theater, that's when you know the Deep State's working with impunity. There are SO MANY issues that the media could spotlight that would be inconvenient for The Powers That Be. Lucky for them, Mr. President is happy to create headlines on an almost daily basis. And he's happy because, as he admits, he's getting richer and richer.

You cracked the case. We should probably shut the sub down...

Man. I'm so glad you've pointed out our billionaire president isn't establishment. I'm looking forward to blindly following him off a cliff.

My interpretation of your post is that you alluded to it.

Word up bro. Preach that. Makes sense to me. I don't think he's the Messiah or going to change anything and most likely an actor with a part in the greater theater but he is def. being used as a negative symbol/focus to divide and conquer what's left undivided, open and empathic of the US populous and as a scapegoat to stereotype "white" "male" "successful" etc....

When you are investigated for 8 months about a rumor and even with zero evidence

Y'all keep saying this shit as if you have all the information already. Trump has to fire two head cronies because they were being paid off by Russia. His attorney General had to recuse himself from the investigation after he lied to Congress about meeting with Russian ambassadors. Kushner is still doing business with the Russians.

Then Trump fired the guy investigating all of his cronies and now he's under criminal investigation for obstruction of justice.

He did this shit to himself. He thinks the government is just another business where you can do shady shit as long as the people working for you are loyal. He's finding out the hard way that when you work for the American people, you can't just do and say whatever you want.

So now we have this boogey man the Deep state. Every time Trump fucks up, all you gotta do is pretend he's being sabotaged by the deep state. This way it doesn't matter what Trump does. If he does something good, go Trump! If something bad happens, fuckin deep state! It's a pathetic excuse. Maybe he shouldn't have tried to hard to shut down this investigation. If he was totally innocent then he had nothing to worry about.

Thank you

That seems perfectly reasonable, but wouldn't it be easier to get behind the underdog if Trump wasn't such a loathsome, moronic piece of shit? Like if it was President Bernie with the establishment trying to tear him down, you'd be like "Hold on a minute..." I think most casual viewers aren't even into the politics, they just think the guy deserves to get taken down for being an asshole. Shame really, we'll never know if he could've changed things.

Bernie has no balls. He took it up the ass in his new home and bowed down.

Someone you like then, is my point.

The Democratic party are now the deep state. We know they're the deep state because the IRS targeted groups with certain political terms in their names who were seeking tax free status which was an unacceptable methodology that was appropriately responded to when it came to light and which didn't actually directly target right wing groups or political opponents of the current administration. Why is this the deep state while the IRS being used by the Bush admin to target political opponents including churches very directly? Because the Democrats and those nasty leftists are the deep state silly. Obvious right?

Why is it the deep state when a Trump like Ceaser is killed during a Shakespear in the park production but not when an Obama like Ceaser is treated the same way by Shakespear in the park? Because those filthy leftist Democrats are the deep state because reasons, that's why.

Why is it the deep state when initial reports about an attack half a world away in a foreign non English speaking jurisdiction aren't entirely accurate but it's not the deep state when a White House spokesperson is literally making up terrorist attacks like the Bowling Green massacre and trying to make people frightened of their own microwaves? Because Democrats are bad mmmkay? And the deep state is bad mmmkay?

It's really the obvious.

Who said it was the Democratic Party?

Of course that wasn't said because who needs to say it when you can make a list that exclusively points at them. I mean you could have said "massaged intelligence so he could illegally invade a country" but went with "got a question from a tv network", and somehow you've managed to deem that Trump as Ceaser is deep state but no mention of when they did it to Obama who the deep state apparently militarized the IRS for, and of course it's not worth mentioning the Bush admin brazenly using the IRS to target their political opposition - no deep state there I guess.

No way you're trying to equate the Democratic party and the deep state. It's just a total coincidence you composed a list that exclusively targets Democrats even when much more egregious examples tied to Republicans exist. Just a little coincidink there...

Hillary was caught cheating in a PRESIDENTIAL PRIMARY.

No, she wasn't.

Yeah she was, 100%.

No, that has never been established.

Donna Brazile gave her the questions before the debate,

That has never been established. Maybe the information made it as far as Clinton, maybe it didn't. We don't know that. What we do know is that Donna Brazile appears to not be the same person as Hillary Clinton and there's no reason to believe that Clinton controls Brazile's brain. You're literally trying to pass one person's actions off as another persons but that's like saying you're at fault if through no actions you took, I decide to tell you stuff you are not supposed to know. That's bullshit right there.

Yeah t was you fucking liar!

Then go right ahead and cite the proof of it. So far you're so desperate you're grasping at the straw of "someone else said this to her" as "proof" that she did something. As for you temper tantrum with all these personal attacks you've been indulging in across multiple posts, I hope you don't think that kind of carry on is remotely persuasive.

Go ahead and quote what part of this article you think even suggests Clinton did something wrong much less proves it. I saw nothing of the sort. On the contrary, the following quote asserts that it's not established whether or not this constituted any kind of favoritism.

To be fair, it’s possible that Brazile was also tipping off Sen. Bernie Sanders’ campaign off about coming debate questions. The Sanders campaign (and all of the Republican candidates and the Republican National Committee for that matter) has not fallen victim to the same hacks as the Clinton campaign. While a DNC spokesman did not respond to specific questions about whether Brazile also tipped off the Sanders campaign, Sanders’ former national press secretary offered only glowing praise for Brazile in an email on Monday.

It's not known whether or not this was equal treatment for both sides, and I can see nothing whatsoever that implicates Clinton if it was favoritism.

Your own source fails to even hint at what you're trying to use it to claim (that Clinton cheated in some way, not Brazile a wholly separate individual person with a mind of her own, but Clinton herself). It doesn't even establish that Brazile favored Clinton rather than inappropriately sharing this information with both campaigns.

And you still can't stop with the temper tantrums. Name calling is uncalled for. Save your energy for finding sources to prove your point if any in fact exist (which I doubt). Try reading the next one before you post it.

In other words you have no source that backs up your claim, it's actually you who is either mistaken or a liar. Still tantruming I see.

LMFAO definitely not sending their best

You're a liar, that's all that to it.

Says the poster who reads and listens to fake news like Donald Trump does business with mobsters.

Way to deflect from the fact that he was correct in his assessment about the other poster, who most certainly lied through his teeth.

It has 100% been established. Get your fucking revisionism out of here and go back to SB for another comment

Clinton admitted it? You do know that Brazile is not the same person as Hillary Clinton right? You do get that fact? It's pertinent.

did Trump just join reddit?

They're REALLY mad about getting thrown off of their scheduled mass sacrifice of humans in Wolrd War 3. But hey, if Trump is the Deep State, we'll get it anyway. : )

have 95% of MSM colluding with your wanted agenda

95%? You got any numbers that support that, and really, GE, Viacom, Columbia Broadcasting, and Disney support New Dealism huh?

when 95% of the Hollywood propaganda machine support you while constantly bashing and normalizing the murder or your political opponent

Lol, again this is just bullshit.

when your caught creating an illegal slush fund to fund violent attacks on your political opponents

Again, complete bullshit.

when your caught militarizing the IRS to attack your political foes

This never happened.

when you have the major social media outlets changing their rules and guidelines to fight against your political foes

Source?

when your caught wiretapping your political opponents and United States civilians

Source, other than Donny J?

when your caught sending classified information in an insecure manner, and you are not charged after the investigation

That is because you cannot retroactively punish people. It wasn't illegal at that time, that is a principle that is American as it gets.

When you are investigated for 8 months about a rumor and even with zero evidence you are not vindicated

You truly cannot see the forest due to the trees.

when major corporations sponsor "artists" that depict your assassination

Lol, you know they did the same thing with Obama right? It's called adapting a play to modern times. Jesus Christ, do you have to be that partisan?

and when you have treasonous leakers surrounding you that are paid to give information to the MSM in an attempt to impeach

Lol was Mark Felt a treasonous leaker too?

I need a quick rundown

And yes, it's always illegal to send classified documents on an unsecured server and tell when an indictment was ever handed out prior to a crime?

It is now, it wasn't when HRC was SoS. If you want to retroactively punish folks for crimes they committed that were not illegal when they committed them, then you are simply un-American.

Reddit was not quiet about creating their new "popular" thread.

Reddit isn't the MSM.

So yeah, it's all true, you just refuse to accept it. That cognitive dissonance can be a motherfucker, huh?

So Mark Felt is a treasonous leaker? You are telling me they didn't do the same play with Obama? You are telling me the IRS exclusively targeted conservative 501(c)3's? Are you going to provide any sources, do you know about Hitchen's Razor?

Well, this is awkward... http://m.washingtonexaminer.com/obamas-big-bank-slush-fund/article/2580431

when your caught militarizing the IRS to attack your political foes

This doesn't prove any of the assertions you made. Do you even understand how evidence works?

And yes, it's always illegal to send classified documents on an unsecured server and tell when an indictment was ever handed out prior to a crime?

It is now, it wasn't when HRC was SoS. If you want to retroactively punish folks for crimes they committed that were not illegal when they committed them, then you are simply un-American.

Reddit was not quiet about creating their new "popular" thread.

Reddit isn't the MSM.

So yeah, it's all true, you just refuse to accept it. That cognitive dissonance can be a motherfucker, huh?

So Mark Felt is a treasonous leaker? You are telling me they didn't do the same play with Obama? You are telling me the IRS exclusively targeted conservative 501(c)3's? Are you going to provide any sources, do you know about Hitchen's Razor?

Jesus the amount of mental backflipping you employ to cling to blatant falsehoods is astonishing.

Can say the same about you.

Lol you are so fundamentally dishonest with your points it's not even funny:

-it's not even worth the effort to point out the fact that the media absolutely hates Donald Trump on all sides with the exception of a few right-wing / Fox News pundits, and they most certainly are supporting and subtly normalizing the idea of assassination towards Trump.

-Obama DID target conservatives with the IRS

• Obama DID create an illegal slush fund with stolen DOJ money

• Google WAS caught censoring and defunding ad revenue for InfoWars. They were also caught censoring which stories would appear in search results to show those favorable to Clinton.

• Obama DID wiretap Trump and his campaign

• The dissemination of any classified information without a security clearance is a felony punishable by prison. No exceptions... unless you're Hillary Clinton, of course.

• There's still no evidence of Trump colluding with Russia, no matter how desperately you want it to be

• Whataboutism. The media and vast majority of sensible people completely condemned any threats towards Obama. They certainly weren't defended by the media and encouraged like they are now.

• Nixon wasn't any different from any of the Presidents before him in terms of his corruption. They just hid it better than he did and made an example out of him. The leaks coming out of the Trump campaign are illegal, completely motivated by political ideology and designed to undermine public trust and damage his Presidency. Don't think for a second theis people are doing this out of some sort of altruism or public service or you're just as gullible as the hardcore Trump supporters that think he's the reborn savior.

You seriously need to educate yourself on the "IRS scandal," they targeted Liberal organizations too, it's just liberal organizations were not breaking the law as much as the conservative ones after the ridiculous CU ruling. With HRC, the rules about private servers were conviently placed after she left, and you still need the intent to pass confidential information, otherwise we would be charging anyone who got compromised. Again, any thing on "95%" of the MSM doing any censoring? You are telling me Google is apart of the MSM?

There's still no evidence of Trump colluding with Russia, no matter how desperately you want it to be

You are joking right?

Nixon wasn't any different from any of the Presidents before him in terms of his corruption. They just hid it better than he did and made an example out of him.

So was Mark Felt a treasonous leaker, yes or no?

Clinton, Bush, Clinton, Bush, Clinton, Bush is all I fucking heard for weeks when the election was first being covered, shoving the dynasties down your throat. Why? So they could cover up each crimes. Looks like a lot of people were involved in their crime syndicate.

Someone you like then, is my point.