some dude in the middle ages who was like "hold up! y'all gotta stop rapein babies" n' they were like "but why jesus!" and jesus said "do unto others."
He's the dude telling you not to do anything fun with your life. Live a clean non hurting life. The devil on the other hand offers you every pleasurable thing imaginable. So I like him. He lets me do all the cool shit while Jesus is lame and lives the clean boring life. Jesus is a trick to get you not to pleasure yourself.
That's not true, Jesus was a socialist communist who believed in a doctrine that would allow you more time and freedom to do the things you love in life. All you have to do is not be a cunt and it guarantees you an afterlife in heaven.
Some of the really ancient religions believe there were 2 paths you could take in life usually represented by 2 brothers. One was straight edge, clean, proper while the other was carefree and indulged in personal pleasures. Neither were wrong just 2 choices in life. The church took the one they didn't like and made it the devil imo
One brother, ego-driven to become a better hunter, envious and hateful, ending life to become unlike a God.
One brother, whole-istically driven to better understand life, loving and peaceful, seeding life to spread God's work.
The paths are opposite and dualistic, but one cannot exist without the other.
When one becomes bigger than life, the other will take the opposite role of the culler.
One method is taboo because it clearly implies killing at the detriment of others and bettering yourself over others.
a physical incarnation of a person who was "inspired" (in spiraled?) by a fractally dualist hivemind so as to learn infinite lessons that could be shared. he represented the superiority of the design of care over the design of division. he's the same archetype (or mainly this archetype) as jupiter/zeus. the symbol for jupiter is the symbol for tin, a 2 and 4 intersecting. http://www.symbols.com/gi.php?type=1&id=720&i=1 . the 4, the cross represents intersection in balance. this universe is always in balance, so how does it change? it changes phi-ly. it decorates in layers, always in balance. The 2 part represents the phi change part, spinning off from the balance.
anyway this character figures out that strict dualist hierarchy (set, satan, saturn) is improved upon by a wholistic (holystic) phi-losophy. thus hierarchy/the pyramid/ being a singularity and phi being infinitely growing diversity (so-phi-a, so-phi-ah). and as long as we change "with care" we're good. care = love. love = iove = jove = jupiter.
To me, the archetype as man concept seems weird, and then you realize that it's as much a "construct" as any other part of reality, and like you said, mathematical in MANY ways to boot. And genetic, and time-based, etc. Awesome post!!!
he's called "the perfect man" because he cares about how he develops. it's as if in this form if you take care in how you grow yourself, he represents a kind of limit of that.
the tin man, and pinocchio are also representations of this character
I swear I know someone who is the spitting image of the Crone, too. I think the archetypes are all around us if we look, and why aspects of character are fairly innate in personhood, but explainable through experience. It seems so easy to TALK about...but the idea of implementing a design like that seems so far-fetched. Yet that's all words are...designs themselves. And that's why things are unbelievable to me. Not really, but just expanse wise
the Crone = female version of Chronus, time lord, Saturn
words are phi designs. they are constructed phi-ly. they are arranged in sentences phi-ly. sentences are arranged in paragraphs phi-ly. and on and on. it's a narrative/decorating/phi type of design.
of course the recurrence of these archetypes will manifest in the infinite. this is the same as numbers and operations producing smells of their use. infinitely occurring smells. the word = jesus. why? because he's phi-ne.
My favorite part of the Jesus narrative? At the time, the Egyptians used to tell stories and crack jokes using the word ioao...which, depending on phonetics, could have been pronounced yo. Now, that's pretty funny.
My favorite is Cain and Abel. Ya know, Cain supposedly just found disfavor with the Lord because, unlike Abel, he did not proffer the finest he had. If you check out this depiction of them:
My brother keeps half facetiously telling me to join the Masons, but it's like, why would you want to pledge your allegiance to a group that is not forthcoming in its ways? For a group that supposedly focuses on self-improvement, there's an awful lot of power and money floating around. And an awfully conspicuous lack of the fairer sex as well. I will pass.
Check out that link in my post it goes in depth on how Julius Caesar, not his son is Jesus based in common quotes, their lives and the people involved.
Jesus was in the world,
and the world was created through Him,
yet the world did not recognize Him.
He came to His own,
and His own people did not receive Him.
But to all who did receive Him,
He gave them the right to be children of God,
to those who believe in His name,
who were born,
not of blood,
or of the will of the flesh,
or of the will of man,
but of God.
The Word became flesh
and took up residence among us.
We observed His glory,
the glory as the One and Only Son from the Father,
full of grace and truth.
Jesus was actually a Nazarene. Meaning he was not a Jew, but was part of a separate tribe. He was actually part of the Abraham lineage. A tribe of prophet kings. Jews like to mix up the word Nazarene with someone that comes from Nazareth, but in fact, that's false. You can say he was Egyptian. Abraham was sent down to earth by AmonRa to deal with the corrupt Nephilim (fallen angels) which started to corrupt the world.
Look up who Ra is.
Look up the emerald tablets of Thoth.
The teacher had given me an assignment based on this Scripture: "And He came and dwelt in a city called Nazareth, that what was spoken by the prophets, ‘He shall be called the Nazarene,’ might be fulfilled.”
“It's from the Book of Matthew,” he said. Your assignment did you search the Scriptures and find the prophecy where it is said that the Messiah would be a Nazarene.”
Several weeks passed before he brought it up again. But then the day came. “Have you found the prophecy of the Nazarene,” he asked.
“No,” I replied. “There's no prophecy calling Messiah a Nazarene.”
“Did you notice,” he said “that it doesn't say ‘what was spoken by the prophet’ but what ‘was spoken by the prophets’? So the answer lies not with one prophet or prophecy but in the collective voice of the prophets. And what did the prophets say of Messiah? They speak of Messiah the Branch. Why the branch? For one, He would appear on earth in littleness, in weakness, growing up as a shoot or a sprout. He will be born among us on the genealogy, the tree of humanity. His presence on earth would then grow, becoming greater and greater and bear it’s fruit to the world. In Hebrew, one of the words for branch it netzer. It's the word used by Isaiah and his prophecy of Messiah as the branch that would come forth from the line of David. If you add an ending, the word becomes netzeret.Netzeret is the Hebrew name for the place you know as Nazareth.”
“So Nazarene speaks of Messiah the Branch. And Nazareth would mean…?”
“Nazareth would mean the place of the branch…the place of the branching forth.”
“The perfect name,” I said, “for the place where Messiah would grow up…as a branch…and from where He would branch out.”
“It was considered a nothing place, the most obscure an unlikely of places.”
“Then why did God choose it?”
“For that very reason. God loves to choose the unlikely and because it's not about Nazareth-it's about that which comes through Nazareth. In the same way, it's not about who we are. Nor does it matter how likely or unlikely, how imperfect or sinful our life has been…only that we receive. For whoever receives Him, through that life, the life of God will come. And from that life, He will branch out to the world. For we are each called to be his Nazareth.”
The Mission: Let Messiah’s life come through your life. Let His love come through your love and your life become His branching-His Nazareth.
Zachariah 3:8; Isaiah 11:1-2; Matthew 2:23; John 15 1-5
The entire new testament is a propaganda piece written by roman elites during first/second century to disrupt the Jews rising political power and to pacify the poor. Jesus is a fictional character plagiarized from a number of
different sources, obviously including the Egyptian god Horus.
I believe he was the son of God. He was an enlightened individual. Just like Mohammed and Gandhi.
I dunno if God literally impregnated Mary but I feel like Jesus the Christ had some kinda direct line to God that could equate to a son-like relationship. Somehow.
He was not white like pictorial depictions seem to favor. And he seemed like a genuinely awesome dude- feeding people with fishes and loaves and making wine. He's cool in my book!
I am a person of faith. I believe that we are all born pure and as god. If we are still and quiet we can feel it, our innate sense of right from wrong. It's our job to reclaim that god that is us. That is what I think Jesus was, (and plenty of other spiritual leaders as well.) When he said "your body is your temple" he meant it literally, not what the church spun like "take care of your body" but that the church is separating you from god, god is you and you are his church. So, I'm sort of a Christian, but I won't step foot in a church. Churches are creepy dens of evil, in my opinion.
What if all those similarities to other religions and astrology are because it's true?
If the mankind is less than 10,000 years old and the story was there from the beginning, written in the stars, then not having all these similar ideas come out of the other religions would be highly unusual.
Take astrology. If you name the first few brightest stars of each constellation in order, it tells the story of the Gospel. Most names are lost now, but there's enough evidence throughout the Semitic languages to make the connections. Link upon request.
And if there are all these myths developing about the coming virgin birth and great king of kings... then that's something you'd want in your mythology if you wanted to rule the world.
It all makes sense if you can hold it all up to the right light.
Read the four Gospels: Matthew, Mark, Luke and John and you will come to know Christ Jesus. Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ! By his great mercy he has given us a new birth into a living hope through the resurrection of Jesus Christ from the dead, and into an inheritance that is imperishable, undefiled, and unfading, kept in heaven for you, who are being protected by the power of God through faith for a salvation ready to be revealed in the last time.
These four (five if you include Acts which is known as the Gospel of the Holy Spirit) were the first written and found to be the most accurate portrayal of the life, teaching, death and resurrection of Jesus. For more insight see:
Dr. Michael Heiser: Gnosticism Lecture - Part 2 (starts at 39:40)
Jesus was a radical Jewish preacher who preached ideals more in line with eastern ideology than the Jewish people of that time were used to. It's because of him that the Old Testament identifies God as a vengeful asshole and supports "eye-for-an-eye" philosophy, while the New Testament version of supposedly the same entity is all about forgiveness and pacifism rather than destructive vengefulness. It was the teaching of Jesus of Nazareth that codified the idea of "the Golden Rule" into Christianity that still stands today, and that was a good thing. "The Goldren Rule" has existed in many cultures all around the world going back to the days before Christianity, and unlike certain moral declarations in ancient Jewish scripture, it is a good, rational basis for morality.
However, something like a couple hundred years after his death, long after the people who actually lived at the same time as Jesus were all dead, some folks established a church of worship to him. In the hundreds of years since then, that church has been used to manipulate and control people. That's not cool.
Basically, the guy taught people to stop being jerks to each other, got assassinated for that, and then went on to become a tool of oppression long after he and all of the people who knew him were dead. I'm an atheist personally, but even if there is a singular great creator god and even if Jesus is literally the human son of that deity, everything I've said in this comment is still true. He taught some good morality while he was alive, and then long after his murder, his image has been used to oppress for centuries.
As someone who has faith yet am undecided, i try to research the histories to better ascertain the truth between the parables. Better the devil you know, imo.
Jesus was not a Jew, he was a Judahite of the tribe of Judah. In that time you had the pure racial Isralites, and then you had the satanic mongrelised edomite/caininites who had taken over the majority of the power structure with their usury. The much poor isralites were unable to make the sacrificial requirements because of the usury scam at the temple. When he came onto the scene the Isralites were being oppressed by the Edomites, and because the edomites mixed in with the caininites you had two tribes that looked similar; but were completely opposite to one another-as is still the case today. Hence the verse : But ye believe not, because ye are not of my sheep, as I said unto you. My sheep hear my voice, and I know them, and they follow me:
If you really want answers, don't ask people. Ask Him to show you. All it takes is a true desire to change and repent our transgressions. Do it with a fully honest heart and I truly believe He will answer you.
Jesus as a person may have existed, and he may have had "followers" but that was just it. There was no "Virgin Mary". Think about it, wouldn't it be far easier to lie about being a virgin vs taking the stoning for what would be the obvious alternative?
The amalgamation of multiple mythic figures from different religious traditions.
Dagon - Fertility and fish god of ancient Semitic mythology
Jeoud (Pheoniciain for "Only Begotten Son")- Legendary ancient Pheonician prince who was sacrificed by his father, King Kronus, AKA "Ilus" (possibly the historical person upon which the legends of the early Semitic gods "El" and "Elyon" were based), and, according to the Sanchuniathon, this King was also referred to as "Israel").
John the Baptist, (AKA Oannes) - Early Christianity incorporated many facets of the competing religion, Mandaeism, as well as characteristics of its most revered prophet, John the Baptist. It's been suggested that John, or "Ioannes" as he was called, was related and perhaps a later incarnation of the Babylonian god "Oannes", who is typically viewed as one-in-the-same with the the Semitic God Dagon. Like Dagon, Oannes was a merman of sorts, and also had some goat-like features.
Kshitigarbha (known in Japan as "Jizo") - One of the four great Bodhisattvas in Buddhism. He is prophesied to be the final Bodhisattva who saves humanity. He's the protector and defender of the souls of stillborn children. His full name in Japanese is pronounced "Daigan Jizō Bosatsu", linguistically tying him to Buddha, Dagon, and Jesus.
Don't mention it. I should probably also point out that Jesus shares parallels with Osiris and Horace (resurrection) in Egyptian mythology, as well as Dionysius/Bacchus (water into wine and resurrection) in Greek/Roman myth, and the Christian trinity is likely modeled after the trinity of Zoroastrianism (final battle between good and evil).
Jesus was a metaphor for the Sun, it got out of hand and intertwined with an abomination of Greek/Roman mythology mashed up into one big tale of control.
Look at the Christian Church, as it is today and as it has been ever since the dark ages. It's everything he despised and preached against. And look at him, he's has become the symbol of a death-cult, people literally crucifying themselves in order to 'get closer to god'.
I don't get how people praise Jesus so much, when they probably know his story. Poor guy.
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n/a CaptainApollyon 2017-07-10
some dude in the middle ages who was like "hold up! y'all gotta stop rapein babies" n' they were like "but why jesus!" and jesus said "do unto others."
n/a LSDwizard1 2017-07-10
He's the dude telling you not to do anything fun with your life. Live a clean non hurting life. The devil on the other hand offers you every pleasurable thing imaginable. So I like him. He lets me do all the cool shit while Jesus is lame and lives the clean boring life. Jesus is a trick to get you not to pleasure yourself.
n/a kenyastew 2017-07-10
Im not religious but why do you thin
n/a 1-800-GOFUCKYOURSELF 2017-07-10
That's not true, Jesus was a socialist communist who believed in a doctrine that would allow you more time and freedom to do the things you love in life. All you have to do is not be a cunt and it guarantees you an afterlife in heaven.
n/a LSDwizard1 2017-07-10
Not being a cunt while tour name is that hahaha
n/a Xaviermgk 2017-07-10
It's "Go Fucky Ourself", not "Go Fuck Yourself"; that's a big mistake people make.
n/a Autopilot_Psychonaut 2017-07-10
Boo! Jesus was very much a compassionate conservative with libertarian leanings.
n/a kenyastew 2017-07-10
Im not religious, but what are you basing the stuff about the devil on?
n/a LSDwizard1 2017-07-10
Some of the really ancient religions believe there were 2 paths you could take in life usually represented by 2 brothers. One was straight edge, clean, proper while the other was carefree and indulged in personal pleasures. Neither were wrong just 2 choices in life. The church took the one they didn't like and made it the devil imo
n/a SinGinMeruMaid 2017-07-10
The story of these 2 brothers reads as a metaphor for the study of the natural world.
One brother, ego-driven to become a better hunter, envious and hateful, ending life to become unlike a God.
One brother, whole-istically driven to better understand life, loving and peaceful, seeding life to spread God's work.
The paths are opposite and dualistic, but one cannot exist without the other. When one becomes bigger than life, the other will take the opposite role of the culler.
One method is taboo because it clearly implies killing at the detriment of others and bettering yourself over others.
n/a MackDaddyJu 2017-07-10
Over-indulgence of pleasure can lead to guilt.
n/a 1-800-GOFUCKYOURSELF 2017-07-10
I like the son of Cesar theory.
n/a kenyastew 2017-07-10
I'll have to check that out.
n/a LSDwizard1 2017-07-10
That's more they just based the modern day picture off of his son. Not his son was Jesus. They made an artist do a rendition of Jesus just like him
n/a birdman5000 2017-07-10
a physical incarnation of a person who was "inspired" (in spiraled?) by a fractally dualist hivemind so as to learn infinite lessons that could be shared. he represented the superiority of the design of care over the design of division. he's the same archetype (or mainly this archetype) as jupiter/zeus. the symbol for jupiter is the symbol for tin, a 2 and 4 intersecting. http://www.symbols.com/gi.php?type=1&id=720&i=1 . the 4, the cross represents intersection in balance. this universe is always in balance, so how does it change? it changes phi-ly. it decorates in layers, always in balance. The 2 part represents the phi change part, spinning off from the balance.
anyway this character figures out that strict dualist hierarchy (set, satan, saturn) is improved upon by a wholistic (holystic) phi-losophy. thus hierarchy/the pyramid/ being a singularity and phi being infinitely growing diversity (so-phi-a, so-phi-ah). and as long as we change "with care" we're good. care = love. love = iove = jove = jupiter.
that's my impression anyway
n/a Xaviermgk 2017-07-10
To me, the archetype as man concept seems weird, and then you realize that it's as much a "construct" as any other part of reality, and like you said, mathematical in MANY ways to boot. And genetic, and time-based, etc. Awesome post!!!
n/a birdman5000 2017-07-10
thx man!
he's called "the perfect man" because he cares about how he develops. it's as if in this form if you take care in how you grow yourself, he represents a kind of limit of that.
the tin man, and pinocchio are also representations of this character
n/a Xaviermgk 2017-07-10
Well, I wouldn't put it past him being foolish or cowardly either. ;)
It was the Sacred Heart, not the Sacred Brain.
n/a birdman5000 2017-07-10
exactly! yes the Fool / Loki (low key) is another facet of the character. Enki (a key) vs Enlil (el, saturn). he's a "key".
n/a Xaviermgk 2017-07-10
I swear I know someone who is the spitting image of the Crone, too. I think the archetypes are all around us if we look, and why aspects of character are fairly innate in personhood, but explainable through experience. It seems so easy to TALK about...but the idea of implementing a design like that seems so far-fetched. Yet that's all words are...designs themselves. And that's why things are unbelievable to me. Not really, but just expanse wise
n/a birdman5000 2017-07-10
the Crone = female version of Chronus, time lord, Saturn
words are phi designs. they are constructed phi-ly. they are arranged in sentences phi-ly. sentences are arranged in paragraphs phi-ly. and on and on. it's a narrative/decorating/phi type of design.
of course the recurrence of these archetypes will manifest in the infinite. this is the same as numbers and operations producing smells of their use. infinitely occurring smells. the word = jesus. why? because he's phi-ne.
n/a Xaviermgk 2017-07-10
My favorite part of the Jesus narrative? At the time, the Egyptians used to tell stories and crack jokes using the word ioao...which, depending on phonetics, could have been pronounced yo. Now, that's pretty funny.
n/a birdman5000 2017-07-10
indeed yo
n/a Xaviermgk 2017-07-10
Oh geez...l need to get off at the next stop.
My favorite is Cain and Abel. Ya know, Cain supposedly just found disfavor with the Lord because, unlike Abel, he did not proffer the finest he had. If you check out this depiction of them:
Beat yo down fool
it seems like Cain offered nothing more than a bundle of sticks, which would maybe be the origin of all those "nasty" jokes.
n/a birdman5000 2017-07-10
yeah the fascists...building up strawmen to burn them down
sons of cain = masons
it's a division-y kinda model. they build themselves up phi-ly too, and try to approach phi but never do. this is the human condition.
n/a Xaviermgk 2017-07-10
My brother keeps half facetiously telling me to join the Masons, but it's like, why would you want to pledge your allegiance to a group that is not forthcoming in its ways? For a group that supposedly focuses on self-improvement, there's an awful lot of power and money floating around. And an awfully conspicuous lack of the fairer sex as well. I will pass.
n/a birdman5000 2017-07-10
exactly well said
n/a Carlos_Dangers_wang 2017-07-10
A nice fable built upon others.
n/a Nutricidal 2017-07-10
The continued revelations of Buddha.
n/a 435435435 2017-07-10
Some think he went to India for a bit
n/a Nutricidal 2017-07-10
Or India went to him. I suspect the early Christ era was very well read. The roots of the great awakening.
n/a treeslooklikelamb 2017-07-10
I read that he lived in japan for a bit
http://www.thiaoouba.com/tomb.htm
n/a 435435435 2017-07-10
Could be
n/a Afrobean 2017-07-10
If you like this idea, I suggest you check out a movie called "The Man From Earth".
n/a HackedAlias 2017-07-10
Always thought this theory was pretty interesting.
https://www.carotta.de/subseite/texte/esumma.html
TL;DR Jesus is Julius Caesar
n/a Jesuits_hate_spiders 2017-07-10
Julius Caesar's Son, Caesarion or a Magic Mushroom. I'm on the fence.
n/a HackedAlias 2017-07-10
Check out that link in my post it goes in depth on how Julius Caesar, not his son is Jesus based in common quotes, their lives and the people involved.
n/a venCiere 2017-07-10
Jesus was in the world, and the world was created through Him, yet the world did not recognize Him. He came to His own, and His own people did not receive Him. But to all who did receive Him, He gave them the right to be children of God, to those who believe in His name, who were born, not of blood, or of the will of the flesh, or of the will of man, but of God. The Word became flesh and took up residence among us. We observed His glory, the glory as the One and Only Son from the Father, full of grace and truth.
John 1:10-14
n/a ridestraight 2017-07-10
Who is G_d. To a Christian Jesus is G_d in the flesh. Father. Son. Spirit.
n/a alcogiggles 2017-07-10
Jesus was actually a Nazarene. Meaning he was not a Jew, but was part of a separate tribe. He was actually part of the Abraham lineage. A tribe of prophet kings. Jews like to mix up the word Nazarene with someone that comes from Nazareth, but in fact, that's false. You can say he was Egyptian. Abraham was sent down to earth by AmonRa to deal with the corrupt Nephilim (fallen angels) which started to corrupt the world.
Look up who Ra is. Look up the emerald tablets of Thoth.
You will slowly start to understand.
If you want to know the secret, I recommend you watch these videos:
1) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GE2ehGDIpGI
2) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WJtzvDAc280
3) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PGZzogwrrDU <-- watch all 3 parts
n/a 2012ronpaul2012 2017-07-10
This Nazarene insight is incorrect.
The teacher had given me an assignment based on this Scripture: "And He came and dwelt in a city called Nazareth, that what was spoken by the prophets, ‘He shall be called the Nazarene,’ might be fulfilled.”
“It's from the Book of Matthew,” he said. Your assignment did you search the Scriptures and find the prophecy where it is said that the Messiah would be a Nazarene.”
Several weeks passed before he brought it up again. But then the day came. “Have you found the prophecy of the Nazarene,” he asked.
“No,” I replied. “There's no prophecy calling Messiah a Nazarene.”
“Did you notice,” he said “that it doesn't say ‘what was spoken by the prophet’ but what ‘was spoken by the prophets’? So the answer lies not with one prophet or prophecy but in the collective voice of the prophets. And what did the prophets say of Messiah? They speak of Messiah the Branch. Why the branch? For one, He would appear on earth in littleness, in weakness, growing up as a shoot or a sprout. He will be born among us on the genealogy, the tree of humanity. His presence on earth would then grow, becoming greater and greater and bear it’s fruit to the world. In Hebrew, one of the words for branch it netzer. It's the word used by Isaiah and his prophecy of Messiah as the branch that would come forth from the line of David. If you add an ending, the word becomes netzeret. Netzeret is the Hebrew name for the place you know as Nazareth.”
“So Nazarene speaks of Messiah the Branch. And Nazareth would mean…?”
“Nazareth would mean the place of the branch…the place of the branching forth.”
“The perfect name,” I said, “for the place where Messiah would grow up…as a branch…and from where He would branch out.”
“It was considered a nothing place, the most obscure an unlikely of places.”
“Then why did God choose it?”
“For that very reason. God loves to choose the unlikely and because it's not about Nazareth-it's about that which comes through Nazareth. In the same way, it's not about who we are. Nor does it matter how likely or unlikely, how imperfect or sinful our life has been…only that we receive. For whoever receives Him, through that life, the life of God will come. And from that life, He will branch out to the world. For we are each called to be his Nazareth.”
The Mission: Let Messiah’s life come through your life. Let His love come through your love and your life become His branching-His Nazareth.
Zachariah 3:8; Isaiah 11:1-2; Matthew 2:23; John 15 1-5
The Book of Mysteries
n/a alcogiggles 2017-07-10
Actually, I don't have time to respond as I'm at work, but you should watch this and get the real interpretation of Nazarene.
https://youtu.be/WJtzvDAc280?t=1270
n/a VenomousVoice 2017-07-10
The entire new testament is a propaganda piece written by roman elites during first/second century to disrupt the Jews rising political power and to pacify the poor. Jesus is a fictional character plagiarized from a number of different sources, obviously including the Egyptian god Horus.
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/story-of-jesus-christ-was-fabricated-to-pacify-the-poor-claims-controversial-biblical-scholar-8870879.html
n/a CaucasianEagle 2017-07-10
A roman invention
n/a Jigglyraffe 2017-07-10
I believe he was the son of God. He was an enlightened individual. Just like Mohammed and Gandhi.
I dunno if God literally impregnated Mary but I feel like Jesus the Christ had some kinda direct line to God that could equate to a son-like relationship. Somehow.
He was not white like pictorial depictions seem to favor. And he seemed like a genuinely awesome dude- feeding people with fishes and loaves and making wine. He's cool in my book!
n/a RecoveringGrace 2017-07-10
I am a person of faith. I believe that we are all born pure and as god. If we are still and quiet we can feel it, our innate sense of right from wrong. It's our job to reclaim that god that is us. That is what I think Jesus was, (and plenty of other spiritual leaders as well.) When he said "your body is your temple" he meant it literally, not what the church spun like "take care of your body" but that the church is separating you from god, god is you and you are his church. So, I'm sort of a Christian, but I won't step foot in a church. Churches are creepy dens of evil, in my opinion.
n/a lucasmcn96 2017-07-10
Hear no evil see no evil?
n/a RecoveringGrace 2017-07-10
I don't understand what you are getting at.
n/a lucasmcn96 2017-07-10
Churches are nice places to clear your mind
n/a RecoveringGrace 2017-07-10
Indeed. Works alot like the news cycle being pumped into your home.
n/a lucasmcn96 2017-07-10
Look at that karma lol tryhard
n/a RecoveringGrace 2017-07-10
Someone cares about karma?
n/a lucasmcn96 2017-07-10
Not me:)
n/a RecoveringGrace 2017-07-10
Sure.
n/a lucasmcn96 2017-07-10
Lol you bought a place with 666 as the address?
n/a grizz101012 2017-07-10
the most enlightened being to ever walk the planet
n/a Autopilot_Psychonaut 2017-07-10
Would make sense to follow in his footsteps, then.
n/a humbybumbybookoopop 2017-07-10
a fabrication. a combination of Egyptian religion, astrology, and sun worship
n/a Autopilot_Psychonaut 2017-07-10
What if all those similarities to other religions and astrology are because it's true?
If the mankind is less than 10,000 years old and the story was there from the beginning, written in the stars, then not having all these similar ideas come out of the other religions would be highly unusual.
Take astrology. If you name the first few brightest stars of each constellation in order, it tells the story of the Gospel. Most names are lost now, but there's enough evidence throughout the Semitic languages to make the connections. Link upon request.
And if there are all these myths developing about the coming virgin birth and great king of kings... then that's something you'd want in your mythology if you wanted to rule the world.
It all makes sense if you can hold it all up to the right light.
n/a missyshimmy 2017-07-10
Link please
n/a Autopilot_Psychonaut 2017-07-10
Short video: Signs of the Zodiac - Chuck Missler
Longer video: Chuck Missler - Astrology Signs & The Hebrew Zodiac
n/a wwwwho 2017-07-10
A fictional God. Like all the other Gods you don't believe in.
n/a Fart_McFart_Fart 2017-07-10
:tips fedora: Good goy.
n/a treeslooklikelamb 2017-07-10
Perhaps he was a Man From Earth?
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n/a jrlovejr92 2017-07-10
I fucking love that movie. I like to get stupid high and watch it once a year
n/a 2012ronpaul2012 2017-07-10
Read the four Gospels: Matthew, Mark, Luke and John and you will come to know Christ Jesus. Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ! By his great mercy he has given us a new birth into a living hope through the resurrection of Jesus Christ from the dead, and into an inheritance that is imperishable, undefiled, and unfading, kept in heaven for you, who are being protected by the power of God through faith for a salvation ready to be revealed in the last time.
n/a justaddbooze 2017-07-10
What of all the other gospels omitted by the Church?
n/a 2012ronpaul2012 2017-07-10
These four (five if you include Acts which is known as the Gospel of the Holy Spirit) were the first written and found to be the most accurate portrayal of the life, teaching, death and resurrection of Jesus. For more insight see:
Dr. Michael Heiser: Gnosticism Lecture - Part 2 (starts at 39:40)
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=pDyl1qrpj_Q
n/a HempCO719 2017-07-10
A song submitted for your consideration. Tell me what you think
n/a NutriaSystem 2017-07-10
a fantasy
n/a Afrobean 2017-07-10
Jesus was a radical Jewish preacher who preached ideals more in line with eastern ideology than the Jewish people of that time were used to. It's because of him that the Old Testament identifies God as a vengeful asshole and supports "eye-for-an-eye" philosophy, while the New Testament version of supposedly the same entity is all about forgiveness and pacifism rather than destructive vengefulness. It was the teaching of Jesus of Nazareth that codified the idea of "the Golden Rule" into Christianity that still stands today, and that was a good thing. "The Goldren Rule" has existed in many cultures all around the world going back to the days before Christianity, and unlike certain moral declarations in ancient Jewish scripture, it is a good, rational basis for morality.
However, something like a couple hundred years after his death, long after the people who actually lived at the same time as Jesus were all dead, some folks established a church of worship to him. In the hundreds of years since then, that church has been used to manipulate and control people. That's not cool.
Basically, the guy taught people to stop being jerks to each other, got assassinated for that, and then went on to become a tool of oppression long after he and all of the people who knew him were dead. I'm an atheist personally, but even if there is a singular great creator god and even if Jesus is literally the human son of that deity, everything I've said in this comment is still true. He taught some good morality while he was alive, and then long after his murder, his image has been used to oppress for centuries.
n/a zosce 2017-07-10
Jesus died in japan
n/a missyshimmy 2017-07-10
Not a real person.
n/a asailorssway 2017-07-10
So do you believe that men named Buddha, Krishna, Zoroaster, Yeshua existed? Or do you think they are all fabrications?
Am curious, not dick.
n/a missyshimmy 2017-07-10
Jesus I don't think existed. As for the others don't know don't care. I am against all religions.
n/a asailorssway 2017-07-10
Ahhh. Thats completely understandable.
As someone who has faith yet am undecided, i try to research the histories to better ascertain the truth between the parables. Better the devil you know, imo.
n/a LupusRexVidar 2017-07-10
Jesus was not a Jew, he was a Judahite of the tribe of Judah. In that time you had the pure racial Isralites, and then you had the satanic mongrelised edomite/caininites who had taken over the majority of the power structure with their usury. The much poor isralites were unable to make the sacrificial requirements because of the usury scam at the temple. When he came onto the scene the Isralites were being oppressed by the Edomites, and because the edomites mixed in with the caininites you had two tribes that looked similar; but were completely opposite to one another-as is still the case today. Hence the verse : But ye believe not, because ye are not of my sheep, as I said unto you. My sheep hear my voice, and I know them, and they follow me:
n/a usernamenn 2017-07-10
Jesus is the Son of the living God.
If you really want answers, don't ask people. Ask Him to show you. All it takes is a true desire to change and repent our transgressions. Do it with a fully honest heart and I truly believe He will answer you.
n/a Zybbo 2017-07-10
He is what he claimed to be.
n/a pmichel 2017-07-10
Jesus was/is who he said he is, the son of God. He is my Redeemer, my hope and my salvation. There is power in his name.
n/a mrbojingles1972 2017-07-10
Jesus as a person may have existed, and he may have had "followers" but that was just it. There was no "Virgin Mary". Think about it, wouldn't it be far easier to lie about being a virgin vs taking the stoning for what would be the obvious alternative?
Go ahead, convince me otherwise.
n/a missyshimmy 2017-07-10
Thanks
n/a Beaustrodamus 2017-07-10
The amalgamation of multiple mythic figures from different religious traditions.
Dagon - Fertility and fish god of ancient Semitic mythology
Jeoud (Pheoniciain for "Only Begotten Son")- Legendary ancient Pheonician prince who was sacrificed by his father, King Kronus, AKA "Ilus" (possibly the historical person upon which the legends of the early Semitic gods "El" and "Elyon" were based), and, according to the Sanchuniathon, this King was also referred to as "Israel").
John the Baptist, (AKA Oannes) - Early Christianity incorporated many facets of the competing religion, Mandaeism, as well as characteristics of its most revered prophet, John the Baptist. It's been suggested that John, or "Ioannes" as he was called, was related and perhaps a later incarnation of the Babylonian god "Oannes", who is typically viewed as one-in-the-same with the the Semitic God Dagon. Like Dagon, Oannes was a merman of sorts, and also had some goat-like features.
Kshitigarbha (known in Japan as "Jizo") - One of the four great Bodhisattvas in Buddhism. He is prophesied to be the final Bodhisattva who saves humanity. He's the protector and defender of the souls of stillborn children. His full name in Japanese is pronounced "Daigan Jizō Bosatsu", linguistically tying him to Buddha, Dagon, and Jesus.
Melchizedik/the Jewish Messiah/David
n/a asailorssway 2017-07-10
This resonates... Hmmm. Thanks for the lead.
n/a Beaustrodamus 2017-07-10
Don't mention it. I should probably also point out that Jesus shares parallels with Osiris and Horace (resurrection) in Egyptian mythology, as well as Dionysius/Bacchus (water into wine and resurrection) in Greek/Roman myth, and the Christian trinity is likely modeled after the trinity of Zoroastrianism (final battle between good and evil).
n/a Jigoku1337 2017-07-10
Jesus was a metaphor for the Sun, it got out of hand and intertwined with an abomination of Greek/Roman mythology mashed up into one big tale of control.
n/a gbc-ocd 2017-07-10
Jesus was the ultimate victim of his own success.
Look at the Christian Church, as it is today and as it has been ever since the dark ages. It's everything he despised and preached against. And look at him, he's has become the symbol of a death-cult, people literally crucifying themselves in order to 'get closer to god'.
I don't get how people praise Jesus so much, when they probably know his story. Poor guy.
n/a 435435435 2017-07-10
Some think he went to India for a bit
n/a Afrobean 2017-07-10
If you like this idea, I suggest you check out a movie called "The Man From Earth".
n/a birdman5000 2017-07-10
exactly well said