Shareblue actively states that they are on reddit and other social media to correcttherecord^TM.

Apart from your imagination, what tells you there are Cambridge Analytica shills here?

https://np.reddit.com/r/conspiracy/comments/6eaaw6/clear_signs_of_bot_activity_what_do_you_make_of

All those are linked to T_D and none of it links to CA...

For all I know it was a false flag infiltration. So, we have the overt statement from Shareblue of online manipulation. What, apart from your imagination suggests CA is using shills here on this sub?

So whenever the side you support gets caught red-handed, you can just say it was probably a false flag by the other side? Seems a convenient method to never accept wrongdoing and constantly smear the other side.

People don't have much knowledge about these shill groups because frankly they don't want to know.

Cambridge Analytica is a data gathering brain. https://ca-commercial.com/services Luckily many cultists are ready to join in the fascism so it's easy to spam 4chan with it's force culture and narrative.

I think Parscale which has received payments from Trump was the muscle. https://www.parscale.com/portfolio/donald-trump-campaign which is oddly now blank. Should have archived it.

https://www.parscale.com/about/who-we-are

shill group

.

Gathering data

I don't think you know what shills are.

You know what, you're right. There are no right wing shills. Only liberal shills.

Lol. No evidence and back to imagination.

No, no. When you're right, you're right. Nothing to see there. So what if they were hired by the president and are connected to members of his admin.

Nope, everyone, there are no right wing shill groups. It's all these liberal imaginations amirite? Kek.

I asked for evidence, you have provided none.

Last "evidence" I saw was the claim that "Russians" mass joined T_D due to Donald Jr's meeting with the Fusion shill. The fact that happened on the day that the rest of reddit decided to censor the Pulse shooting didn't phase any of those probing the claim.

The previous claim was when a near billionaire donated 10k to set up a site and then immediately went to Chelsea Clinton's newspaper to say he was paying people to shill.

So, excuse me for asking for evidence. I know the concept is hard for you.

I'm sorry I'm not a hacker or have evidence of a leaker. After all this post is just a parody as these guys are well paid.

http://www.businessinsider.com/brad-parscale-trump-russia-investigation-2017-6

Parscale's firm, Giles-Parscale, was paid a whopping $91 million by the Trump campaign, which famously shunned television ads

91 million only using CNN as T.V ads? Alright. Remind me to reply to you when the subreddit r/conspiracyevidenceofthisisreal is popular.

Chelsea Clinton's newspaper

Go on.

The Daily Beast. She is on the board of directors of IAC which owns The Daily Beast.

Chelsea Clinton's newspaper!

Obviously she has sole, complete control. She's on the board!

/s

Read the book 'Dark Money'

Because you can't actually just provide any evidence.

The book provides evidence and talks about at length.

I look forward to one day seeing you in a thread not related to Trump.

Here, I agreed with Trump on something finally

Another thread that has nothing to do with Trump, where I attacked both parties

Another thread that has nothing to do with Trump, but instead I attack DWS, and said it was good that was Awan was caught

As I said, a non-Trump related topic.

I have been on this sub for years, and your username says more about you and your post history than anything I could add.

Only one of those threads had anything to do with Trump, and it's when I agreed with him.

There are only Establishment shills.

Notice they keep downvoting everyone pointing this out.

Hillary has analysts get her demographic data. In no way shape or form was that ever "shilling" or "proof of shilling".

It was the fact her CTR/Shareblue idiots got directly caught out shilling that had it confirmed they used shills.

Yet no-one seems to be able to find a Trump equivalent and keep screaming "but they must do!"

Why wouldn't they?

For what possible reason wouldn't every side use this technique? Wouldn't they be giving their opponents an advantage if they didn't?

Did you see how shareblue pissed people off?

Why on earth would you follow a losing strategy.

I really don't think that anyone changed their vote due to negative reaction to Paid Social Media Participation. If it pisses you off, you weren't the target to begin with.

On the other side, these companies have lots of data showing how Paid Participation greatly signal boosts ideas.

Do you have evidence or not? Share blue admitted it. "Why wouldnt they?" Isn't evidence.

What evidence would be conclusive? Share Blue's statement that they've done PP on Reddit certainly isn't. They've never said anything about r/conspiracy and honestly this sub is too small to be worth it.

There is the exact same amount of evidence showing that Share Blue is on this sub as there is CA.

Now answer my question - if SB was here, why wouldn't CA also be here? Wouldn't it be a failure on their part to not?

We know all parties and countries and special interests use shills. So why wouldn't there be paid conservative shills or propagandists?

Aaaaand our reader blue boy shares his wisdom.

Once again the claim boils down to...

• Overwhelming verifiable evidence that CTR/Shareblue is real and constantly brigading

Met with...

"Trump shills are also here!"

What's your evidence for this?

"Because both sides must be doing it!"

And yet no evidence ever comes up.

We have this desperate thread trying to counter-op the current thread on CTR/Shareblue shills claiming a analytics company researching demographics for political purposes (that every politician does on some level and was never shilling even when Hillary did it) is somehow shills. Because analysing information is apparently shilling now.

And the other one was that hilariously idiotic "see /r/The_Donald spiked in users at this time and date! Shills!" while conveniently leaving out that it was during the Orlando shooting when T_D was one of the ONLY subs not censoring the incident and news about the incident.

What evidence of constant brigading?

there is none, ever all there was ever is a single quote "social media campaign including sites such as reddit" THATS ALL it can mean anything from IAMA to posting their articles in buying upvotes (this is most likely) to bizzarely paying people to comment on niche conspiracy subs for some reason.

Thanks for proving my point.

People should really read that book to understand what's going on.

Apart from your imagination, what tells you there are Cambridge Analytica shills here?

Is that a joke?

What you think they would just skip reddit?

Lack of visibility. Most of the active posters were here before Trump and talk about a wide range of conspiracy theories.

Most of the anti-Aging posters are new and only post about either Trump or the Dnc'

Most of the anti-Trump posters are new and only post about either Trump or the Dnc

Why can't we do that? Why is that bad or wrong to mainly talk about Trump?

You can mainly talk about Trump all you like, just don't expect to not be called a shill when you do constantly do it in threads that have not even the slightest relationship to him as a topic.

This is a conspiracy sub. Long before you came we were discussing Obama creating and funding Isis, the false flags in Libya, Syria, Iraq. Soros, Rockefeller, Rothschilds. The means to achieving a NWO.

For better or worse, Trump has put an end to the distinct direction we were being pushed.

If you knew me beyond the "hitlist" that is passed around with mine and other regular posters names on it, you'd know the issues I care about, the ways I try to protect my family and others. But now I'm just a target to many.

You can freely post anywhere, while I've been banned from most subs, targeted with vote manipulation, threatened, stalked, and called almost every name there is. You'd know me as username untumulted.

But you care about none of that and no one has any idea about what you care about. You care about a single thing. You listed some of your partisan posts. Two were. One wasn't. You try to paint Trump as part of the establishment by saying this sub shouldn't care about left right, but you are just trying to pre-empt debate and by default claim Trump is part of the establishment.

I judge by the fruit.

Op = /u/SixVISix

https://www.reddit.com/r/conspiracy/comments/6pvos8/attention_sharebluectr_staff_we_know_you_are

No, I think this is just an opposing side imitation of that post.

Just someone correcting the record, upset that six posted an anti left shill alert. So this is the corrected record giving us an anti right shill alert.

Just someone correcting the record, upset that six posted an anti left shill alert. So this is the corrected record giving us an anti right shill alert.

Just someone correcting the record, upset that six posted an anti left shill alert. So this is the corrected record giving us an anti right shill alert.

Anti left, anti-right. Y'all are being playing yourself if you want to buy into this shit.

These posts would be far more sincere if they appealed to any and all paid users, regardless of the employer's stated goals or motivations.

You are preaching to the choir.

The degrees of verisimilitude are staggering

Ctr-Left, Alt-Right, let's delete

That's the most clever comment I've seen all week.

You must be right, because you were railroaded pretty hard

Ah, it doesn't count until they get me to negative double digits. Then I know I am really right or really wrong.

I am sort of surprised there aren't releases. Guessing they work from limited desktops, seeing what they are allowed to see, else we'd have atleast one screenshot of it in action.

I see what you did there.

^ this guy reddits

Is this the bot also known as SixVISix? Nice try. http://www.reddit.com/r/conspiracy/comments/6pvos8/attention_sharebluectr_staff_we_know_you_are/

You can tell just how many cultists from the_donald hang out here by the fact that the other post calling out shareblue is sitting at 90 upvotes right now and this is sitting at 9. People love to pretend that that this is a neutral sub. It's complete horse shit. This place is conservative.

If you think t_d is conservative, you know nothing about it.

What the fuck are you talking about? It's a sub dedicated to worshipping the Republican president and making fun of liberals all day.

Which issue are they not conservative on? Weed? Cool.

Also Trump held a flag which makes him totally pro-LGBT rights if you ignore everything else.

He sure does look anti-LGBT if you ignore all the support he has had for them in his life and focus on his repeal of stupid regulations and rules trying to give them rights nobody else has.

Yeah, he's pro-LGBT if you just ignore all the stuff where he's anti-LGBT /s

Don't you know? Trans people have extra rights not available to non-trans people. /s

What rights do the LGBT community has that no one else does?

You mean like serving in the military?

TIL you can only serve in the military if you're trans. /s

Funnily enough, Trump's DOJ literally just argued in court today that sexual orientation shouldn't be covered under the civil rights act. Pro-lgbt to his core alright...

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/07/27/nyregion/justice-department-gays-workplace.html?_r=0

Funnily enough, Trump's DOJ literally just argued in court that sexual orientation shouldn't be covered under the civil rights act. Pro-lgbt to his core alright...

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/07/27/nyregion/justice-department-gays-workplace.html?_r=0

Yep, if you are liberal or have liberal beliefs you're called a shill.

Ever notice how people scream about /r/politics being an echo chamber? Try posting anything that isn't 100% Trump praise in /r/republican, /r/conservative or /r/the_donald and see how quickly you will get banned.

The projection and hypocrisy from the right are just so fucking blatant.

But but it says politics and it doesn't talk about the politics I like /s

It's so cute when people complain about what a subreddit is supposed to be.

To be fair, I wish /r/conspiracy wasn't just an offshoot for T_D's anon 4chan fan fiction. But I still stay here to offer my voice and keep some balance. I wish those who flee /r/politics would just stick around and try to make themselves heard rather than retreating to meme fest subs.

Trump and his campaign courted the conspiracy crowd and it paid off.

Be the change you want to see. If you don't like/know what's being posted, post something you'd prefer. Maybe you could encourage some people to discuss it and have a wonderful time learning from each other.

Can't you say the same about /r/politics? As far as I'm aware, the mods are actually pretty hands-off when it comes to banning people or deleting discussions. It's just that there are so many people who think the same way that you get downvoted to oblivion.

But it doesn't work. Try posting anything critical of Trump or Republicans. If it's not a huge story that can't be ignored, it's downvoted right off the page.

Feel free to go against the hivemind and get accused of being a "shill" on a daily basis with the rest of us.

Also, keep in mind. The comment section is a much more honest representation of the community. The threads are constantly vote brigaded by T_D and the like to the top, and they consistently try and drown out anything.

Well one claims to be a neutral sub. The others are not.

Where does r/politics claim to be a neutral sub?

I call /r/politics the "free market echo chamber." It's an echo chamber on the order of being a full-on circlejerk, but at least the mods are pretty hands-off about deleting threads or banning people. No, they just let the members downvote everyone who goes against their circlejerk so you won't ever see them.

Those 3 subs have about 600k subscribers, combined.

Politics has over 3 million. I'm sure that's an irrelevant distinction to you, though

Please educate me on the relevance of those numbers.

Do you think Cambridge Analytica having 70 million for astroturfing is worse than CTR having 7 million

I haven't really thought about that. But back to my question -- how does the size of a sub affect whether it's an echo chamber?

How does the size of the astroturfing effort affect its actual impact in real world terms?

Back to my question about whether or not you were banned for expressing something not "100% Trump praise" in /r/conservative...

Were you banned from r/consercative for this thread, btw?

https://www.reddit.com/r/Conservative/comments/6q118p/breaking_senate_gop_unveils_skinny_repeal_to_move/dktrt0n/

I noticed those comments were not "100% Trump praise", and you made them in /r/conservative after making this comment. Interesting stuff.

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Well no shit if you don't post something supporting trump in The_Donald it won't be upvoted. It's a subreddit specifically for the support of trump.

I'm as left as they come and you guys are blowing the partisan divide here way out of proportion in an obvious attempt to widen the divide.

That and suppress any meaningful discussion

As left as they come and yet you voted for Trump? How does that work again?

Hillary was right wing, Trump was right wing, I hoped he would drain the swamp as he said. I knew what Hillary would do, I didn't know what Trump would do.

Yep, if you are liberal or have a liberal viewpoint on things you're called a shill.

Dude, your name is "TrumpRusConspiracy". Like... ffs

Yes? So what?

If the Trump Russia conspiracy is false (which it appears to be).... well, your name is as dumb as tattooing an ex girlfriends name on your arm.

Everyone is entitled to their own opinions. I think Pizzagate is false as well, but I don't attack people for believing it and I don't try to discredit others.

And if I'm wrong about this conspiracy, then I will admit that I was wrong just like I was wrong about Trump himself being under FBI investigation.

The question is why do you care that I believe in this conspiracy and why are you attacking me on a personal level because of it?

This sub likes progressives. Not Democrats or Republicans. The only reason it seems like this sub is biased is because of all this astroturfing.

I'm a liberal. I have never defended democrats in this sub. I have even attacked democrats and Clinton and Shultz.

But, I'm still called a shill just because I'm a liberal and I'm anti Trump. I can't talk about the conspiracy involving Russia or anything else really, without someone or some group trying to attack me on a personal level.

Well the trump Russia conspiracy is main stream and you can go talk about it over in r /politics. That's the only reason they call you a shill. I'm a liberal and I think people need to stop falling for the Russia distraction and focus on the real issues.

Or people aren't so stupid to think that "Cambridge analytics" is comparable to the vast infrastructure the Democratic party and Hillary Clinton have had behind them which almost certainly includes the CIA and the rest of the deep state.

They're both insanely powerful and terrible, stop trying to downplay the astroturfing by your team. Both teams are corrupt and bought by the establishment.

While the conspiracy theorists in general lean slightly to the right I have been coming here for a few years now and there has not been any left or right lean until recently when it swung right.

What make you think they are underpaid? The poses very much marketable talent. If their employer cannot offer them 300k+ per year, then somebody else will.

I cant believe there are people in this topic claiming Cambridge Analytica didn't do anythin and that ShareBlue is on a bigger level than CA. What nonsense, nobody can come close to what CA can do.

CA is owned by Robert Mercer, what else does he own and fund? Oh yeah Breitbart.... infowars.... who got Bannon and Conway their jobs? Oh thats right Robert Mercer. Who ran the online psy-ops and misinformation campaigns? Robert Mercer and CA. Did he do this with just the US election? Nope, he was also behind Brexit, Le Penn, Wilders.

Americans have been well and truly duped by super-rich far-right Americans into thinking its all about Russia and the "the left" or "the right" - no it IS abut the super-rich they have performed a coup of your country and they are far-right nutjobs. This is the "elite class" v's the rest of us common folk. This is what this sub has been waiting for for a decade and its hear and its happened and all the information is readily available online and yet the vast majority of you have turned a blind eye to it. Why? Because you got caught up in the psy-ops techniques, they worked on you, now you just want to burn the muslims and kick out the mexicans and blame the Russians for it all.

You've all been played and we deserve what we are going to get.

Shhh that's not part of the /r/conspiracy narrative!

t_d narrative

that's what he said bro

What's the difference?

As someone that visited this sub for years before this election, it used to be a huge difference. Not so much anymore unfortunately.

You can at least say it here - ?

Wanna bet how long it will take for this thread to be removed?

Why was his comment deleted?

Probably because he deleted it.. If it was removed by a mod it say removed.

You know how Trump fans always cried that CTR got $7 million to shill on reddit and other social media websites?

Project Alamo got $70 million a month and data from Cambridge Analytica to quote "cultivate a universe of millions of fervent Trump supporters".

https://www.sacurrent.com/the-daily/archives/2016/10/27/project-alamo-lessons-from-inside-trumps-sa-based-digital-nerve-center

Here is a radical idea, why don't we criticize BOTH of them? Start the motions to end this manipulation/propaganda.

It's long overdue. Fuck this bipartisan bullshit and every shill that goes along with it.

Here is a radical idea, why don't we criticize BOTH of them?

Sure, let's them hold them accountable! Let's first figure out the seriousness of what should be held accountable.

The fact is that the GOP and Trump used way, way more social media astroturfing than CTR did.

$70 million in one payment alone compared to $7 million.

You tell me which one is the bigger problem by a size of ten, and then you tell me who should be hearing more protests by an amount of 10.

Holding them accountable doesn't mean you dismiss one side while rallying against "CTR/Shareblue" (the smaller of the two problems.)

What? Fuck the whataboutism. Is this behavior acceptable? Yes or no? It's really as simple as that. I am sick of seeing D's criticize R's and then adopt the same damn tactics. It's despicable, that is the whole point.

Why do you imply holding both of them accountable as though both did the same thing to the same level?

Why not go after the much larger source of the problem, rather than ignoring the larger source to go after the smaller fish?

False equivalence runs rampant around here.

You made a whole edit to your post, so I had to make a new response.

Fuck the whataboutism.

You're the one engaging in whataboutism. Why is it every time a right-wing figure is held to the fire, suddenly "WE'RE BIPARTISTAN" comes out of the woodworks to detract from that conversation.

What kind of person who engages in actual non-partisan behavior needs to deflect with the same lines every, single, time? Yet I don't see those lines repeated by the same people when the opposite happens.

Did you make this post in the thread about CTR/Shareblue? No? How come? You should be making that bipartisan statement known in both threads if you truly felt that way.

Yes or no? It's really as simple as that.

At a certain level it's pretty unavoidable. However I don't think it should be tolerated, and there should be pushback.

That said the pushback should be at least equal, if not measured to the crime. If one person does 10x as many robberies, you would want to make sure the police focus their efforts on catching that one person moreso than another, correct?

I am sick of seeing D's criticize R's

Sounds very non-partisan of you.

It's despicable, that is the whole point.

So why go after CTR/Shareblue when CA is loads worse? They were way were more active, and more effective on top of it.

How does ignoring them to go after a lesser criminal make sense? Stop engaging in false equivalence on everything.

Conservative viewpoints are the minority on reddit. So please explain to me how they have more of an influence here?

The conspiracy community definitely leans conservative

The posts yes. The comments, no.

Which show a clear sign of the threads being vote botted and not an appropriate representation of the community.

Or the sub getting brigaded. Like it does in the far left subs.

Nice try, but your scenario is far less likely, and there is far less evidence pointing towards it.

It's clearly vote botting of threads. Everyone who pays attention knows it. The comment section is the only organic representation of the community at the moment.

How about posting some proof for your claim? That conservative viewpoint is over represented.

Did you make this post in the thread about CTR/Shareblue? No? How come? You should be making that bipartisan statement known in both threads if you truly felt that way.

How about you address a single point made in this conversation rather than keep derailing it by ignoring everything?

I haven't comment on it, because I am not interested in it. I know shareblue shills are on reddit. I came here in case someone had actual proof of conservative representation. There is none, so this post is only designed to deflect.

https://www.sacurrent.com/the-daily/archives/2016/10/27/project-alamo-lessons-from-inside-trumps-sa-based-digital-nerve-center

So you completely ignored one of the top posts in this thread?

And since Trump built the whole apparatus with his own campaign funds, he owns it all. Which means, even if he tanks at the polls in two weeks, he could turn around and sell the data to other campaigns, use it to foment a larger fringe political movement, or even make "Project Alamo" the basis for a new Right-Wing media empire – you know, like Trump TV.

Where does reddit come in here? Where is influencing social media? This is nothing.

Are you joking? I literally quoted you where they used Facebook as an example of a social media platform.

I stand by my earlier assessment, even more so now. You clearly have no interest in an honest discussion.

Enjoy your day.

I replied to your other comment, but then I kept reading your dialogue and this summed up my reply lol. These convos never go anywhere.

Example: Source? Answer: your source is shit/fake. No matter what you link too. Now I just link to google with the question typed in and they can choose their own source ffs

https://np.reddit.com/r/WayOfTheBern/comments/6mt30n/compilation_of_data_regarding_shill_activity_on/

Explain this data to me. Leftwing shilling is on reddit. They brigade far left leaning subs, We are not getting R trolls brigading the subs, they're all corporate D's. There are subs designed to do nothing more than post what the sub posts and criticize it. These are corporate neoliberal D's doing this. Not Trump trolls or conservative viewpoints. Do R's engage in similar activities? I have no doubt, but on reddit specifically, is owned by shareblue.

Explain this data to me. Leftwing shilling is on reddit. They brigade far left leaning subs, We are not getting R trolls brigading the subs, they're all corporate D's.

You're saying that in a thread about Cambridge Anaytica?

Thank you for showing everyone how little interest you have in an honest discussion.

You are not here for honest discussion.

Makes some weirdly blind observation how only one side is guilty despite the obviousness that both parties are equally engaged.

Then goes to "no I'm not, you are."

Lol.

You have shown absolutely nothing, regarding your claims.

The comment section is the only organic representation of the community at the moment.

So youre just completely convinced that there are no shills, just upvote bits?

What do you think the 70 million paid for, then

Idk I just don't like wasting my time in the comments arguing. I've been more active lately but I really don't care if we have a different opinion. Libs love to come here and spew what they want.

Although I ain't conservative, I understand why people don't feel like wasting time. The arguments are just copy pasted answers from each other with a snarky rude response. Fuck the rudeness and have an open discussion

We aren't disagreeing that reddit as a whole is liberal. However, certain subreddits are not liberal.

You're the one engaging in whataboutism.

Gaslighting. As a 3rd party I can say that the 2nd comment started the whataboutism when they had to compare 7M vs 70M... but what about this exact thing they did to a larger scale?

You're clearly not an authority on logical fallacies. When we're talking about astroturfing as a general topic, it's not whataboutism to compare companies and their activities on that field.

As a matter of fact, this thread is even specifically about CA, and not about CTR. So focusing on the larger scale that CA operates is literally as on topic as you could be.

TL;DR: Talking about CA's activities and funding in a thread about CA is the very topic of the conversation and bringing them up is the opposite of whataboutism.

Forum sliding.

Just want to point out that Brock gave Shareblue $40 million "to fight Trump"

I just want to point out that your own source doesn't say that.

he constellation of political groups in Democratic strategist David Brock’s network are aiming to raise roughly $40 million in 2017, the Clinton antagonist-turned-top ally told roughly 120 donors gathered here on Saturday.

A grouping of political groups that Brock helps run are aiming to raise $40 million.

That isn't David Brock giving $40 million.

Just saying. These things are constantly twisted until they are almost non-facts anymore. Represent them fairly, they can already be criticized enough. No need to embellish.

Apologize, I was not trying to embellish

It happens. That's the sort of thing that gets repeated enough that it appears to be true when looking at a headline.

It's one of things those constant LARP campaigns count on.

The problem is a lot of people don't. They choose one or the other.

2 people fuck you over, only blame 1of them.

I dont get it.

People raised to choose either Pepsi or Coke.

The good news is people can easily spread this around. It's a continuously-updated archive of all proven cases of shilling. There is everything from Cambridge Analytica, Russian shills, the United State's anti-Russian shilling, Israeli and British government shills, Turkish and Chinese shills, Warner Brothers and Microsoft, and even a time when the Clinton Campaign was caught shilling on some forum in 2007.

I think the situation is actually a little bit worse than partisan cherry-picking of information about shilling. People don't seem to be aware of the amount of different entities that hire shills. There are so many of them that it basically guarantees that you will see paid-for content every day if you spend any amount of time on social media. I would bet that there are several different firms in the same Reddit threads if they hit /r/all.

Everyone's trying to figure out who threw the first punch. But we're never going to get back to the Original Betrayal. And so the cycle continues.

This post is in response to the post calling out left wing shilling. This post wouldn't have even been created if the first post just called out all shilling in general.

I mean, I've been saying that about soros and the kochs for years, and looks how far we've come!

That is actually a really good question. If both are doing it, why don't people on r/conspiracy criticize both? It's entirely one-sided, with all of the focus on the much-smaller CTR rather than the massive Cambridge Analytica. Why is that?

Most of the internet is extremely anti-Trump so looks like that $70 million didn't do much.

Most of America is anti-Trump and he got elected. Your point?

speak for yourself keep posting the same crap over

I am speaking for myself that's why I've posted about it before, so I made two posts about it in world news before coming here to discuss it, so what? Also if you're going to quote me at least do it properly.

Robert Mercer does not own Infowars.

No but he supports it via his daughter who has worked with Alex Jones to both back the tea party and push through certain "conspiracy theories". I've singled out Mercer mostly as he's the money and it's easy to follow the money but there are others involved too ofcourse. infowars is a part of this group.

You deliberately misrepresented Infowars and its financing hoping no one would point out your blatant lie. Stop the disinfo.

I didn't deliberately misrepresent, anything you misinterpreted. I said own/funds, he doesn't own infowars but he has funded infowars pro tea-party campaigns and "conspiracy theories" through his daughter who is pretty much the public face of Mercers operations - therefore he has funded infowars, albeit indirectly.

I said own/funds

yea nice edit buddy. bill clinton is a rapist.

Yeah nice try fella but my original post always said owns AND funds.

Bill Clinton is a rapist & Donald Trump is a racist.

Would make a great t-shirt.

Donald Trump is a racist.

Jesse Jackson Praised Trump in 1999 for LIFETIME of helping African American Community

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_K1-nzxzzug

Jesse Jackson also praises Al Sharpton as a good man. Is that really who you want to cite to fluff up Trump?

When you get awards for helping minorities your whole life and rich white liberals call you racist for being a Republican. lol.

Since you seem to have been so triggered by my comment I'll amend my original t-shirt design to say "Trump is a Racist Rapist"

Also, quoting Jesse Jackson from almost 20 years ago to prove Trump isn't racist? Not helping your cause.

Can you prove he is racist?

A LIFETIME.

https://www.clearinghouse.net/detailResource.php?id=740

"the company wanted to avoid renting apartments to welfare recipients of any color"

The Justice Department claimed victory, calling the decree “one of the most far-reaching ever negotiated.”

Oh look massive government overreach that /r/conspiracy usually fights against.

This case is a whole lot of nothing when you look at the context and details..

Don't forget that Trump also bragged about walking in on underage naked girls.

Ugh LEAVE INFOWARZ ALONE you liberals! Clinton lost!

I'm sure you are just as vehement at correcting anyone who says the CIA owns the Washington Post, right?

Yes the CIA and WaPo certainly collude. The CIA does own a few companies through In-Q-Tel which are interesting.

CA is owned by Robert Mercer, what else does he own and fund? Breitbart.... infowars....

A rich person with money funds things. Whatever are we to do! Do you know of better alt-news sources? I'm sure you'll suggest we should be tuning into CNN and CBS and reading Snopes and Salon like good, smart, educated citizens.

who got Bannon and Conway their jobs?

Oh no, he got people he likes, that previously worked for him, jobs! The horror! Alert the presses!

Who ran the online psy-ops and misinformation campaigns?

Which dis-information campaigns were those? The ones that showed Hillary falling over and making faces like a retard at Christmas? I don't think we need dis-information campaigns or psy-ops to show that Hillary is an old, frail woman.

Did he do this with just the US election? Nope, he was also behind Brexit, Le Penn, Wilders.

Oh no, he supports political movements he agree's with! The horror, the shame! It's not allowed unless you fund violent anti-fa thugs! Oh, by the way, Le Penn and Wilders lost, so you'll have to forgive me if I don't think Robert Mercer is some kind of Wizard of Oz.

Americans have been well and truly duped by super-rich far-right Americans into thinking its all about Russia and the "the left" or "the right" - no, it IS about the super-rich they have performed a coup of your country and they are far-right nutjobs.

Yeah, I am sure Soros and the Rothschilds and the Bush's and the Clintons and the Rockefellers are all right wing nutjobs. The right isn't saying anything about Russia except telling the left they are stupid for talking about it so much (which they are). Has the country been captured? Yeah, a long damn time ago by globalists that are anything but right wing.

This is the "elite class" v's the rest of us common folk.

This is true, but you haven't even correctly identified who the "elite" are. Robert Mercer has a lot of money. He's not in the "elite" clubs and he if were, he wouldn't be on the losing side of half the political movements he backs.

This is what this sub has been waiting for for over a decade and its here and its happened and all the information is readily available online and yet the vast majority of you have turned a blind eye to it. Why?

No it isn't what anyone has been waiting for. We turn a blind eye because it's stupid and the theory is pushed by the MSM and the same people who tell us conspiracy theorists are crazy and conspiracy theory doesn't exist...until their precious Hillary loses, then it's all the Russians fault and all the people who have studied conspiracy their whole lives are again called stupid for not believing the only conspiracy theory the MSM ever said was true.

Because you got caught up in the psy-ops techniques, they worked on you, now you just want to burn the muslims and kick out the mexicans and blame the Russians for it all.

Yeah, no. That's the retards version of events. The only people blaming Russia are the same people who blame CA for things they don't like.

You've all been played and we deserve what we are going to get.

The only people being played are those who believe this Russia crap.

I'm not American, I'm not a Hillary supporter, I'm not a part of your team-sports style politics. Take your bitterness elsewhere fella, you wont get a rise from me.

I'm not American, I'm not a Hillary supporter

You don't have to be. You claim to not partake in team-style politics by shouting about "right wing nutjobs". It's clear you are a leftist and are a participant to the team-style politics you claim to not be a part of.

Take your bitterness elsewhere fella, you wont get a rise from me.

I'm not interested in getting a rise out of you. I'm interested in pointing out the stupidity of your comments. It's sad you can't take that criticism and do something constructive with it instead of telling people they are bitter.

And to set the record straight, I've voted for left, right, center and everything in between. The only person not part of that "team style politics" in this discussion is me.

Hmm you claim your not part of it yet claim the fact I see the danger in the far-right makes me a "leftist". You don't have to be a part of any side, have a political stand-point or believe in any ideology to dislike the far-right. Note, I am talking about the far-right not the right. Far-right thinking is a very dangerous thing.

Hmm you claim you're not part of it yet claim the fact I see the danger in the far-right makes me a "leftist".

No, that isn't what I said at all. What I said was that I am not part of it, because I am open to ideas from all sides and have voted for all sides and am not ranting and raving about "right wing nutjobs". Do right wing nutjobs exist? Sure they do, but they are rare and are not represented almost anywhere in Western governments. Everything has moved so far to the left, anytime a true conservative shows up (Rand Paul for example), the left loses it's shit because it's used to dealing with neo-cons, which are not any different than the leftists already in power - except the neo-cons want even bigger wars. I can tell you are a leftist because you are ranting about popular votes that you don't agree with and because you're comments are so condescendign to anyone that voted for Brexit, etc.

You don't have to be a part of any side, have a political stand-point or believe in any ideology to dislike the far-right.

No, but when the "far right" is not in the street torching shit like anti-fa, then it's pretty obvious you aren't actually concerned about real threats happening this instant. Let me know when Robert Mercer starts funding violence. Instead you are concerned with made up fantasy threats like Breitbart and Infowars and democratic voting processes that produce results (Brexit) you don't like.

Note, I am talking about the far-right not the right. Far-right thinking is a very dangerous thing.

Yeah, and if you are European you define Hitler as far right when he wasn't. The political spectrum you think exists is, doesn't. You've been brainwashed to think what is far left is in fact far right.

Stopped reading once you said I was shouting about "right wing nutjobs" - again I'm not talking about the right I'm talking about the far-right, I have always and only mentioned the far-right you can't differentiate.... because as much as you claim not be on a side you clearly are (hence your insistence that I'm a "leftist" and all the other ranting about "the left" who I have never defended anywhere in this discussion).

Good bye sir, have a good day.

Oh just as I was leaving and I saw your last line that I've been brainwashed into think the far left is the far right, you're the one who has been tricked. Hitler was far-right fascist, the whole of Europe knows that history has known that since before the start of WW2 (honestly go and read up on some fucking history).

Stopped reading once you said I was shouting about "right wing nutjobs"

That's a direct quote from you. If your OP wasn't a "rant" then what was it? You really should keep reading, you might learn something.

again I'm not talking about the right I'm talking about the far-right

I don't agree with your definition of "far-right". You don't know anything about the right, much less the American right, because all you've ever had to deal with is the center, left and far left. You mentioned three events (Brexit, Wilders, Le Penn) and implied a fourth by mentioning Robert Mercer (Trump). To an American, Wilders and Le Penn do not seem to be far right, but I'm sure they seem that way to Europeans, but neither of them won, so who cares. You are worried about events that never happened. That leaves only Brexit and Trump. Trump is hardly far right and Brexit was a democratic vote. You shouldn't get upset when the public votes in a manner you don't like. It happens all the time and the pendulum will swing the other way in the not to distant future. There isn't anything wrong with the British desiring to reclaim some of their sovereignty and there isn't anything inherently right wing about it.

hence your insistence that I'm a "leftist" and all the other ranting about "the left" who I have never defended anywhere in this discussion

If you are attacking all the opposition of the left, it's a dead give away. Apologies if you aren't a leftist, but I can't help but notice you never explicitly denied it either. It's okay, it's not an insult.

Hitler was far-right fascist, the whole of Europe knows that history has known that since before the start of WW2 (honestly go and read up on some fucking history).

No he wasn't. He was a national socialist. It doesn't matter anyway though because fascism, socialism and communism are all far left. See, this is what I am talking. The mainstream has told you what the political spectrum is, and you stupidly believe it and are basing your comments off what you believe the political spectrum to be, but what you believe is a lie.

Good bye sir, have a good day.

You too.

No it wasn't a direct the direct quote would have been "far-right nutjobs" not "right-wing nutjobs". Stop lying.

Also no Hitler was a far-right facist, you dont have a clue what you are talking about you desperately need to go and study some history because its dangour that t_d folk like you beleive Hitler wasn't far-right just because they of their name... honestly you don;t know how ignorant you are. Go and educate yourself, please for the love of god no matter what else you think about me, the far-right or anything else go and learn about the history of WW2. Please, I'm begging you, you can't remain this uneducated on something so important.

No it wasn't a direct the direct quote would have been "far-right nutjobs" not "right-wing nutjobs". Stop lying.

My apologies. However, it's a distinction without a difference, the meaning is the same.

Also no Hitler was a far-right facist, you dont have a clue what you are talking about you desperately need to go and study some history because its dangour that t_d folk like you beleive Hitler wasn't far-right just because they of their name... honestly you don;t know how ignorant you are.

No he wasn't. He was a nationalist and a socialist. Europeans just don't like to hear the truth because they still believe in socialism. I'm sorry your fantasy is not reality.

Go and educate yourself, please for the love of god no matter what else you think about me, the far-right or anything else go and learn about the history of WW2.

I know all about the history of WWII.

Please, I'm begging you, you can't remain this uneducated on something so important.

I'm quite well educated thank you. Hitler and Stalin and Mao and Mussolini are about as far away from right wing as you can get. All you are doing is spouting the mainstream view of history you learned at the University from a bunch of professor who all call themselves socialist.

Wow. Well if your not going to educate on the history of WW2 (which you know absolutely nothing about) then there's nothing I can do. You've made an incorrect assumption based on their name and backed by nothing, that's so bizare. You are the one who has been fed propaganda, hence why you saw the word sociliast and immediately decided the Nazis were "left-wing".

I'm waisting my time but before I go one last appeal to you to please, please go and learn about the history of WW2, the Nazi party and Hitler.

Wow.

Wow is not an argument.

Well if your not going to educate yourself on the history of WW2 (which you know absolutely nothing about) then there's nothing I can do.

I know quite a bit about WWII. Because I don't believe what self described socialist professors tell me doesn't mean anything.

You've made an incorrect assumption based on their name and backed by nothing, that's so bizare.

I'm not basing anything on their name. They were socialists that implemented socialist ideas. Were they 100% pure uber socialists? Probably not. No government is 100% what they claim to be. No government is 100% capitalist or socialist etc. The NAZI's were socialist and being socialist doesn't preclude you from killing a whole lot of people, but being right wing does (or should) preclude you from implementing giant social programs, which is what the NAZI's did indeed do. It's you who needs the education. The NAZI's were socialist. They were also nationalist. Nationalism is not inherently right or left wing. Socialist globalist professors tell us that being nationalist is right wing, but it isn't. They have an agenda and use the university to push it. I know, I've been "educated" already as you are instructing me to do.

You are the one who has been fed propaganda, hence why you saw the word socialist and immediately decided the Nazis were "left-wing".

Read the paragraph above again. You are the only one making assumptions. You are assuming that I am basing my comments off the fact that the NAZI's called themselves socialists. I'm not.

I'm wasting my time but before I go one last appeal to you to please, please go and learn about the history of WW2, the Nazi party and Hitler.

Again, I've learned quite a bit about it. It's you who is closed minded. I've had a very good formal education and I've read and done my own research and decided the socialist professors pleading with us all to believe Hitler was right wing are incorrect. It's you that hasn't bothered to educate yourself outside of what your socialist professors at university tell you. It's you that is saying "I didn't read past". It's you that is close minded and has walled yourself off from the thoughts of others and new information.

"I've read and done my own research and decided the socialist professors pleading with us all to believe Hitler was right wing are incorrect"

Enough said really, you've decided to believe what you wanted to believe rather than believe the actual well documented reality. WW2 isn't something that can be hidden, it wasn't that long a go and Europe is entrenched in the remnants of it - what Hitler was is very well documented. If you ever get the opportunity do yourself a favour and pay Germany or France a visit one day, it'll open your eyes.

Enough said really, you've decided to believe what you wanted to believe rather than believe the actual well documented reality because it suits your agenda (the very thing you're accusing me of doing, amusingly).

It's well documented that Hitler was a socialist. The only people who deny this fact are socialists. It really doesn't matter anyway. Assume he was a fascist as you say. Fascism is left wing, so he was still a leftist. I haven't actually accused you of doing anything except being close minded. I went to school and got "educated" (primary, middle, high school, pre and post grad school) as you advise. Then I pulled my head out of my ass and stopped simply repeating what socialist professors told me, read a lot of books and decided for myself what the truth was. All I want to believe is the truth. The truth cannot be told to you by some state funded university. The truth must be discovered. Those that say "I stopped reading", as you have, will never discover truth, because they are not open to any new information or discussion. What I am telling you is clearly very jarring. What you are telling me is the same mainstream crap you find everywhere, it's nothing new or special of different. I've heard all that before and I reject it because it's false, not because I desire to believe any one thing over another.

WW2 isn't something that can be hidden, it wasn't that long a go and Europe is entrenched in the remnants of it - what Hitler was is very well documented.

We aren't even really talking about WWII, or at least, haven't yet. I'm not denying anything involving WWII. Hitler was a bad dude and he killed a lot of people. The past of Hitler's deeds is not hidden, I agree. However, academia is predominantly on the left and they have a vested interest in convincing people Hitler wasn't a socialist because they are socialists themselves. That fact isn't really hidden either. The political science and history professors are all desperate to convince us all that Hitler and fascism etc. is right wing because they are predominately left wing. Those same stupid fucks telling me Hitler is a far right socialist will tell me Donald Trump is a far right capitalist pig. They don't know what they are talking about. Capitalism and socialism are opposite one another. The truth is, anything the left doesn't want associated with itself it calls right wing. Socialism is right wing when we are talking about Hitler, but socialism is left wing when it's free healthcare and housing for people. They speak out of both sides of their mouth.

If you ever get the opportunity do yourself a favour and pay Germany or France a visit one day, it'll open your eyes.

I'd love to go.

It's not close minded to stop reading after someone lies about something that's been said just to try and have a point, which is what you did. You should take advice about your own conclusions on what Hitler was.

It's not close minded to stop reading after someone lies about something that's been said just to try and have a point,

I didn't lie about anything. Saying "right wing nutjob" and "far right nutjob" is the same meaning. I misquoted you, but got the meaning right. I never lied and apologized for the misquote. If you accuse everyone of lies for such small mistakes, no wonder you think the stupid shit you do, it's unlikely you ever listen to anyone.

You should take that advice about your own conclusions on what Hitler was.

I don't need to because I already know what he was. You are the one who is lost. But fuck it, hit me with your best shot. I'm open minded. Educate me on how Hitler was right wing. It should be fun watching you explain how nationalizing industry and providing huge worker programs is right wing.

Your revisionist bullshit might work on the bootlickers over at T_D but that shit won't fly over here.

Hitler arrested 11,000 people in 1936 alone for "socialist activity", in what fucking world was he a socialist?? You have to know absolutely nothing about history and political ideology to believe that.

One of his first moves as chancellor was mass privatization of state industries... that's literally the opposite of socialism.

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Yeah, I am sure Soros and the Rothschilds and the Bush's and the Clintons and the Rockefellers are all right wing nutjobs. The right isn't saying anything about Russia except telling the left they are stupid for talking about it so much (which they are). Has the country been captured? Yeah, a long damn time ago by globalists that are anything but right wing.

The Bushes are not right-wing nutjobs?

That's the retards version of events.

The Bushes are not right-wing nutjobs?

They are nutjobs, but not right wing. Anyone that thinks they are right wing doesn't know anything about neo-conservatism / neo-liberalism.

They are nutjobs, but not right wing. Anyone that thinks they are right wing doesn't know anything about neo-conservatism / neo-liberalism.

You are the one who doesn't know anything about neo-liberalism. Ronald fucking Reagan was a neo-liberal. Is the cognitive dissonance stinging yet or do you have some more mental contortions to make?

Ronald fucking Reagan was a neo-liberal.

No shit stupid, that's my fucking point.

and the "the left" or "the right" - no, it IS about...... and they are far-right nutjobs.

Haha at first you tried to make it look like you were against partisan division and then you ended up defining your partisan enemy. The rich elite aren't far right, they want socialism, but they want socialism for corporations only. If their business is failing they want it bailed out by the tax payer.

If you think "the right" and the "far-right" are the same thing then I'm worried for you. I don't care about the division of right and left, the left have been duped too they're the ones mostly blaming Russia! I'm not picking a side but these people ARE loud and proud far-right (please again note, far-right not the right).

Soros and Eric Schmidt are not far-right. By labeling the billionaire power players and propagandist as far-right only, you are doing the exact same thing you're claiming to rail against.

And yeah, i don't really see the distinction you're making between "the right" and "far-right"

Soros and Eric Schmidt are not far-right. By labeling the billionaire power players and propagandist as far-right only, you are doing the exact same thing you're claiming to rail against.

And yeah, i don't really see the distinction you're making between "the right" and "far-right"

Soros and Eric Schmidt are not far-right. By labeling the billionaire power players and propagandist as far-right only, you are doing the exact same thing you're claiming to rail against.

And yeah, i don't really see the distinction you're making between "the right" and "far-right"

Socialism for corporations doesn't make sense. It's called far-right politics, that's literally what it is. Government for corporations, not for people.

Way closer to fascism than anything related to socialism. Corporate socialism is sort of an oxymoron.

Fascism is the result of socialism. Nazi is literally short for National Socialist German Workers' Party.

Fascism is the result of socialism.

You'll have to show me some kind of example for that because I don't follow.

Nazi is literally short for National Socialist German Workers' Party. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nazi_Party

It's just a name. Like how the Holy Roman Empire wasn't actually Roman. North Korea's official name is the Democratic People's Republic of Korea.

It was a semantic trick that's still working nearly one hundred years later.

again with this crap

You just wish it wasn't true.

So let me ask you this, you think because someone uses a title that means it's 100 percent accurate?

Do you believe the Democratic People's Republic of Korea is a democratic republic? You think Kim Jong Un wields power through the will of a democratic election?

There is literally nothing about Nazi's that is socialist in anyway. Nazi's openly hated socialists. Please learn actual history, and get away from the alt-right history revisionism.

Socialism requires a massive bureaucracy with ever increasing power and authority given to the state. Fascism is where the state has ultimate power. Socialism is the stepping stone to both Fascism and Communism. Both are just when the state has ultimate power and tries to mico manage everything.

That makes literally no sense, nor is it even remotely true.

Fascism and Socialism are opposing ideologies. They are in no way the same thing.

Authoritarianism can exist in any form of government or economics.

So opposing that the 2 made up Nazi Germany.

That's what happened under Stalin and all the people he set up as puppets yes, but that's not what the ideology of Socialism is about.

Socialism is the Workers owning the Means if Productions jointly. The mines, the factories, the farms, ect. And there are approximately 10 million ideas what this looks like. In theory, the most basic form of modern Socialism in practice would be the Unions, and Co-Ops. Communism is also the step beyond Socialism where government and currency doesn't exist. The USSR never claimed to be Communist, in fact they called themselves State Capitalist whenever people asked when exactly they would have control over their place of employment.

Originally Anarchism, Socialism, Communalism, and Communism where all considered cousins since they advocated for things like direct democracy, decentralized elected local councils, communally owned property, ect. Then Stalin convinced the Centrist wing (the Right-wing wanted Cooperatives to replace Capitalists, and the Left wanted everything to be run by elected village councils of the Bolshevik faction of the Communist Party that the only way to build Socialism was to "temporarily" centralize absolutely everything, and the rest is history.

Look at the Catalonian Anarchists, they built a much nicer version of Socialism, but they were stabbed in the back on Stalin's orders, or Rojava in Syria today.

Fascism on the other hand is mostly about rabid nationalism united under a strong leader with a cult of personality and economically is supposed to be based on Corporatism (no, this doesn't mean Rule by Corporations, at least in theory. In practice...) and reinforcing the social hierarchy as a source of stability.

https://www.forbes.com/2008/11/03/obama-fabian-socialist-oped-cx_jb_1103bowyer.html
''Fabian socialism is a type of socialism founded in 1884 in London.[1] It sought use of the democratic framework to achieve gradual conversion to socialism. This approach originated from the movement for utopian socialism. Its nine[2] founding members were Frank Podmore, Edward R. Pease, William Clarke, Hubert Bland,[3] Percival Chubb, Frederick Keddell,[2] Henry Hyde Champion,[4]Edith Nesbit,[5] and Rosamund Dale Owen.[2][3] Havelock Ellis is sometimes also mentioned as a tenth founding member, though there is some question about this.[2]

Important Fabians includes George Bernard Shaw, Beatrice and Sidney Webb, Annie Besant, and Bertrand Russell.[6]

The Fabians were influential in forming the ideas of the British Labour Party. They advocated the ideal of a scientifically planned society and supported the eugenics by way of sterilization.''
http://www.conservapedia.com/Fabian_Socialism

''Fabian socialism is a type of socialism founded in 1884 in London.[1] It sought use of the democratic framework to achieve gradual conversion to socialism. This approach originated from the movement for utopian socialism. Its nine[2] founding members were Frank Podmore, Edward R. Pease, William Clarke, Hubert Bland,[3] Percival Chubb, Frederick Keddell,[2] Henry Hyde Champion,[4]Edith Nesbit,[5] and Rosamund Dale Owen.[2][3] Havelock Ellis is sometimes also mentioned as a tenth founding member, though there is some question about this.[2]

Good post! Remember the Fabian logo was a wolf in sheeps clothing. They saw it completeley acceptable to lie to people if it meant achieving "their vision" of a better society.

The UN still proudly posts the founding UNESCO document by Julian Huxley. They know no one is paying attention, or are distracted by events or eras or sides, or a poseur lack of knowledge fear of being fooled.
Every conspiracy researcher called the power elite ''fabian socialists'' in the 80s and up until this sub grew.

Shills are gonna try n down vote ya like crazy. Ffs I have never seen he shills this fucking out of control here. They made up a huge trump supporter conspiracy takeover out of thin air

Thanks.

Also, this op is "totally not a shill" but still uses tactics which look familiar... pic

but they want socialism for corporations only

this is not socialism

Cambridge Analytica isn't a propaganda firm/PAC though...it's a data mining company.

We can prove all day share blue has astroturffed the sub and others, can you do the same with CA

your country

we

Two buddies help fund both sides.

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2016-11-21/how-renaissance-s-medallion-fund-became-finance-s-blackest-box

http://www.latimes.com/politics/la-na-pol-renaissance-donors-20161006-snap-story.html

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rQmIPK7DQh8

You act like it's only one side doing this. Mercer helps the right, James Simons helps the left. They cause the Left vs Right.

They're AI bots and don't have any sense of right and wrong, they're simply programmed to distract and get karma.

Both the Left and the Right are astroturfing media heavily on behalf of the establishment.

The most basic conspiracy to realize in American politics is the false Left-Right paradigm.

They've been trying to get out ahead of people saying this because even they know it's true, and if people start actually believing it, the house of cards will fall.

I keep seeing, "And next you'll see someone saying that people need to stop believing the left right paradigm," as if that somehow makes it untrue.

These are crazy times we live in, friends.

Ignorance is strength!

I'm not saying that the left doesn't engage in astroturfing, but it's a standard republican strategy to accuse the left of something very loudly, and then when it's swung right back they claim "partisan politics are destroying this country, the Republicans would love to work with the democrats but they can't stop being so partisan".

The real conspiracy is how all these conspiracy subscribers lost sight of that so easily.. .

It's a narrative being pushed. The real and authentic humans on /r/conspiracy feel exactly like how you and I do.

Cheers!

Somebody changed the thread title from CTR to SVR. Lul. I have no problem with that. Both shill hard on here.

Weird how the comment section of this post is mostly people shitting on this sub and the people that use it, and left right division. But the share blue post's comment section is mostly people talking about the post's actual subject.

Hehe, nice point.

That's some mighty fine projection.

It was an observation not a projection. But 8 hours later the anti-Trump brigade attempted to take over the comment section of the share blue post ironically.

But muh whataboutism!

Whataboutism with a freaking' analyst company as well.

Analytics isn't shilling. Hillary wasn't claimed to be shilling because she bought demographic data. She was caught out using shills companies.

That this is the best these shills can come up with, and in response to a thread calling them out too, is just sad.

You spelled JIDF wrong.

The old reddit switcheroo

This is lefties strategy. Dont fall for it. They love to call out for, infowars, Breitbart and YouTubers but dont say anything about the whole media, Hollywood, comedians, academia, etc. Or even "neutral subs" like politics, news, worldnews.

It's clear both sides have shill armies and anyone who claims otherwise in either direction is full of shit

Wasn't this same thread posted earlier with Cambridge Analytica replaced with Shareblue/CTR?

I would also extend this offer to all the trump shills working at GILES-PARSCALE 

Source!

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I hate both conservatives and liberals so I can explain the differences here. Yes, both sides shill, the difference is the liberal shills are really bad at it, and it always comes off as too obvious. The liberal shills actually push people away, but they haven't seemed to have learned that yet.

Is there a chance in god's green hell that these shilling operations could be banned on a federal level? Does anyone aside from employees and party insiders support these kinds of things? Certainly they're doing more harm than good, pretty much exist to only do harm and warp the public's opinions even more.

I'd vote to ban these operations and form a bipartisan, revolving team to actively fight against foreign shilling operations against the United States. It would be a maze of red tape and difficult logistics but I think it could work. The ban should also cover US IC shilling abroad. But good luck with all this, now that the world is shrunk to the internet that anyone around the globe can access, with any nefarious purpose in mind, I'm afraid this is how things are gonna be. And it will get worse.

Yes! I considered making this myself earlier in the day but pussied out. Glad someone with balls stepped up.

18 U.S. Code § 3 - Accessory after the fact

Whoever, knowing that an offense against the United States has been committed, receives, relieves, comforts or assists the offender in order to hinder or prevent his apprehension, trial or punishment, is an accessory after the fact.

Except as otherwise expressly provided by any Act of Congress, an accessory after the fact shall be imprisoned not more than one-half the maximum term of imprisonment or (notwithstanding section 3571) fined not more than one-half the maximum fine prescribed for the punishment of the principal, or both; or if the principal is punishable by life imprisonment or death, the accessory shall be imprisoned not more than 15 years.

I am super surprised they allowed this to get this high up. Normally any kind of talk about CA/trump/russian trolls get instantly downvoted into nothing. It's the very reason the trump crowd focused on the callout subs first, even (e.g. /r/undelete, /r/quityourbullshit, /r/conspiracy - any sub where the masses might get whiff of their bullshit)

Haha dude Cambridge is into targeted ads, not shilling. Do you have information that suggests otherwise?

Why do you imply holding both of them accountable as though both did the same thing to the same level?

Why not go after the much larger source of the problem, rather than ignoring the larger source to go after the smaller fish?

False equivalence runs rampant around here.

You made a whole edit to your post, so I had to make a new response.

Fuck the whataboutism.

You're the one engaging in whataboutism. Why is it every time a right-wing figure is held to the fire, suddenly "WE'RE BIPARTISTAN" comes out of the woodworks to detract from that conversation.

What kind of person who engages in actual non-partisan behavior needs to deflect with the same lines every, single, time? Yet I don't see those lines repeated by the same people when the opposite happens.

Did you make this post in the thread about CTR/Shareblue? No? How come? You should be making that bipartisan statement known in both threads if you truly felt that way.

Yes or no? It's really as simple as that.

At a certain level it's pretty unavoidable. However I don't think it should be tolerated, and there should be pushback.

That said the pushback should be at least equal, if not measured to the crime. If one person does 10x as many robberies, you would want to make sure the police focus their efforts on catching that one person moreso than another, correct?

I am sick of seeing D's criticize R's

Sounds very non-partisan of you.

It's despicable, that is the whole point.

So why go after CTR/Shareblue when CA is loads worse? They were way were more active, and more effective on top of it.

How does ignoring them to go after a lesser criminal make sense? Stop engaging in false equivalence on everything.

Hmm you claim you're not part of it yet claim the fact I see the danger in the far-right makes me a "leftist".

No, that isn't what I said at all. What I said was that I am not part of it, because I am open to ideas from all sides and have voted for all sides and am not ranting and raving about "right wing nutjobs". Do right wing nutjobs exist? Sure they do, but they are rare and are not represented almost anywhere in Western governments. Everything has moved so far to the left, anytime a true conservative shows up (Rand Paul for example), the left loses it's shit because it's used to dealing with neo-cons, which are not any different than the leftists already in power - except the neo-cons want even bigger wars. I can tell you are a leftist because you are ranting about popular votes that you don't agree with and because you're comments are so condescendign to anyone that voted for Brexit, etc.

You don't have to be a part of any side, have a political stand-point or believe in any ideology to dislike the far-right.

No, but when the "far right" is not in the street torching shit like anti-fa, then it's pretty obvious you aren't actually concerned about real threats happening this instant. Let me know when Robert Mercer starts funding violence. Instead you are concerned with made up fantasy threats like Breitbart and Infowars and democratic voting processes that produce results (Brexit) you don't like.

Note, I am talking about the far-right not the right. Far-right thinking is a very dangerous thing.

Yeah, and if you are European you define Hitler as far right when he wasn't. The political spectrum you think exists is, doesn't. You've been brainwashed to think what is far left is in fact far right.

Stopped reading once you said I was shouting about "right wing nutjobs"

That's a direct quote from you. If your OP wasn't a "rant" then what was it? You really should keep reading, you might learn something.

again I'm not talking about the right I'm talking about the far-right

I don't agree with your definition of "far-right". You don't know anything about the right, much less the American right, because all you've ever had to deal with is the center, left and far left. You mentioned three events (Brexit, Wilders, Le Penn) and implied a fourth by mentioning Robert Mercer (Trump). To an American, Wilders and Le Penn do not seem to be far right, but I'm sure they seem that way to Europeans, but neither of them won, so who cares. You are worried about events that never happened. That leaves only Brexit and Trump. Trump is hardly far right and Brexit was a democratic vote. You shouldn't get upset when the public votes in a manner you don't like. It happens all the time and the pendulum will swing the other way in the not to distant future. There isn't anything wrong with the British desiring to reclaim some of their sovereignty and there isn't anything inherently right wing about it.

hence your insistence that I'm a "leftist" and all the other ranting about "the left" who I have never defended anywhere in this discussion

If you are attacking all the opposition of the left, it's a dead give away. Apologies if you aren't a leftist, but I can't help but notice you never explicitly denied it either. It's okay, it's not an insult.

Hitler was far-right fascist, the whole of Europe knows that history has known that since before the start of WW2 (honestly go and read up on some fucking history).

No he wasn't. He was a national socialist. It doesn't matter anyway though because fascism, socialism and communism are all far left. See, this is what I am talking. The mainstream has told you what the political spectrum is, and you stupidly believe it and are basing your comments off what you believe the political spectrum to be, but what you believe is a lie.

Good bye sir, have a good day.

You too.

It's not close minded to stop reading after someone lies about something that's been said just to try and have a point,

I didn't lie about anything. Saying "right wing nutjob" and "far right nutjob" is the same meaning. I misquoted you, but got the meaning right. I never lied and apologized for the misquote. If you accuse everyone of lies for such small mistakes, no wonder you think the stupid shit you do, it's unlikely you ever listen to anyone.

You should take that advice about your own conclusions on what Hitler was.

I don't need to because I already know what he was. You are the one who is lost. But fuck it, hit me with your best shot. I'm open minded. Educate me on how Hitler was right wing. It should be fun watching you explain how nationalizing industry and providing huge worker programs is right wing.

You just wish it wasn't true.

Also, this op is "totally not a shill" but still uses tactics which look familiar... pic