How did this guys car get damaged before he ran into the crowd if this was a straight up terrorist attack?

There's no evidence anyone attacked his car prior to him driving into the crowd.

Given, this was just moments before the collision with the crowd, but there is evidence of his car being struck before. From the videos it seems like he already had some speed going before that though, so I can't say I really think it was 100% self-defense.

From the video, guy swings at it around 3-4 seconds

Both of those are from after the dude starts accelerating into the crowd. You can see people diving out of the way. Everybody is either running like hell or fighting back, a perfectly reasonable set of responses to a car accelerating toward you.

And he appears to accelerate even more moments before the actual impact.

Really? I believe there are pictures of the back of his car with pre-existing damage (from when who knows) and there is a video on RT (maybe) that seems to show a protestor wielding a bat or something similar striking his vehicle. Having said that, those would still be a weak case for self-defense.

Feel free to cite either.

Still waiting, btw.

This is a video addressing it. It may not be the case... https://youtu.be/BqWi6GpNHOA

You can see the car accelerating into the crowd and people diving out of the way prior to anyone striking the car. The attack is already underway when that video begins.

Yes. He will be exonerated in court.

This is an absolute lie.

No, it's not.

Yes it is. I'm not going to argue with you about it. Facts are facts. When that guy took a swing with the pole at the back of the killers car, the killer was already speeding into the crowd causing people to jump out of the way. The connection with the civilian hitting the back of the car with a pole and the driver hitting bodies is less than one second. I can understand a conspiracy about who the driver was/someone coercing him/etc, etc. But the whole "he was scared!" theory is a lie and provably false.

Nah, you're wrong. They attacked him long before that video. How do you think his car got so messed up prior to the video?

Proof.

Look at the video. The car's been through hell.

No. The video shows 1 guy hit the bottom left of the car as it is ALREADY speeding into the crowd and people are dodging out of the way. You'll need better proof. Keep going.

You are a liar.

Holy fuck you're comical, lol. Please, provide a video and a time stamp that shows his car getting beat to shit like you claim.

Look at the car from the beginning of the video until he bumps into the people. You can't unintentionally miss it.

Lmao you fucking said "bumped". Now I know you're just trolling. Have a good night!

After all, people in their early 20s that drive cars with racing stripes are renown for having spotless cars without small bumps and scratches of any kind, right?

Smashed in end constitues just bumps and scratches? That's a new one.

So, since you are so sure, please provide us with pictures of the car before being damaged and after.

Look at the car before he hits the crowd.

Let me repeat myself: BEFORE and AFTER. You state that the antifas damaged the car. That means that you either have a picture of someone actively doing it before the car started to accelerate, or you have pictures of how the car was before and after the rallies (someone might argue that the damaged happened another way, but I am willng to accept it).

We are waiting.

You can see the damage plain as day in the video. You can pretend it's not there all you like.

Please link the video of the antifas attacking the car.

The car has been smashed before he drives into the pedestrians. It's clear as day in the main video everyone's seen.

Oh boy you are in for a surprise. He is flirting with the death penalty.

Yeah definitely. I could see a similar unknown case being judged on its merits and going either way, but in this scenario as soon as the prosecution states that he was in a "Nazi" rally and that he didn't seek police help or stop after the alleged "self defense", the jurors will hang him without a second thought. They have already made up their minds, they just need a bump in confidence so they feel justified in their opinion.

Yup. Imagine what will happen when he's exonerated.

You'll see.

This guy disabled his airbag so it would get in his way as he was mowing people down. You're a sick person.

I didn't see airbag deploy in any of the videos or pictures. The reason more people didn't die was because there was a car just a few people deep in the crowd that he couldn't see and hit. That messed up his plan.

Pretty sure you cannot disable driver side airbag.

The airbag didn't deploy in a crash where I'm pretty sure any airbag would deploy. Either he disabled or removed it. It may not be as easy as disabling the passenger side, but it must be possible.

Correct, it must of been removed. That could give more validity to it possibly being a false flag.

Disabled his airbag

Top kek

Care to provide any evidence that his car was attacked prior to driving into the crowd? You guys never seem to have any compelling evidence when asked, just claims said evidence exists.

Look at the car. You guys intentionally ignore the obvious evidence when it's right in front of your nose.

Care to point out anyone attacking the car prior to accelerating into the crowd?

Yes. Common sense.

So, no evidence. Good to know.

Where are all the videos prior to the crash?

Someone with common sense asks for evidence of something before they believe it.

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First let me say that I have no proof of this. You should have just stopped right there.

The things AI take serious do.

The things that make sense do.

That's for the courts to decide, it's all fucked up either way.

https://youtu.be/v-Plzx73K68

in this video you can hear people screaming in horror, see people reacting by starting to record with their phones, and hear his tires screech from acceleration well before that dumbass taps his bumper with the bat. in fact, one could argue that bumper tap was some kind of knee jerk response to this obvious aggression by acceleration.

looks like this moron didnt account for any other cars being in the crowd to prevent him to continue to accelerate.

care to share your insights about how these two cases are related and the former could possibly justify this latest case?

i did, and then i asked you to share your insights because im trying to start a discussion here. you’ve posted a very respectful and inviting discussion about this topic which was most welcome due to many others being full of drivel and name calling on both sides.

my intent in asking these questions is to better understand your theory, which i am doing with an open mind. i do have my own opinion on the subject, such as the video i posted with the description of the events as i saw them. these questions might make you uncomfortable, but im attempting to help you elaborate more on your take on this by asking those critical thinking type questions.

If there were evidence, do you think the Antifa thugs would publish it?

Is your point here that the car might have been attacked first, but all evidence of that being the case was "suppressed" by Antifa?

Because that sounds pretty goofy.

With the supposed absence of evidence we can only speculate with no certainty. the only evidence ive seen of him being threatened was when someone hit his bumper as he was driving into the crowd.

let me ask you though, why was he driving down that street to begin with? There are videos of the incident from a birds-eye view thanks to drone footage, and it clearly shows that the intersection was really the only place where that crowd was.

Why would this guy drive on a street that clearly has a crowd that you can see blocks away? Why didnt he just head down another street to get around it? Could it be safe to assume at the very least he drove down this street with the idea of anatagonizing the protestors that he disagreed with?

Proof.

After all, people in their early 20s that drive cars with racing stripes are renown for having spotless cars without small bumps and scratches of any kind, right?

Let me repeat myself: BEFORE and AFTER. You state that the antifas damaged the car. That means that you either have a picture of someone actively doing it before the car started to accelerate, or you have pictures of how the car was before and after the rallies (someone might argue that the damaged happened another way, but I am willng to accept it).

We are waiting.

Look at the car from the beginning of the video until he bumps into the people. You can't unintentionally miss it.

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