Rockefeller's lawyer, Allen Dulles, placed as Director of Central Intelligence. Then the Rockefeller Commission, headed by Nelson Rockefeller, is tasked with investigating the same CIA that the John D. Rockefeller was instrumental in forming.
It's my experience that some people are mere actors, willed on by their surroudings, following the script to the very end. They never thought for themselevs to start with and therefore can't be saved.
The video that showed the Pentagon with a hole in it, but no marks where the wings would have hit and no debris did it for me. That they won't release the video taken from surrounding cameras only further re-enforces it.
That these people would do it is just beyond question.
Sheeple like being sheeple. They put the blinders on and stick their fingers in their ears and yell "la la la la la" to block you out. They are living the dream. Nothing you say will convince them. Let them sleep.
I disagree, sir. Unless something can provide evidence that it is so - and survive repeated attempts at disproving it - then it is not so. Thus, whilst people on self.conspiracy are free to call people such as myself "sheeple" for questioning many conspiracy theories, it does not actually make us sheeple. My concept of reality is right until proven wrong, and I am not convinced that that has been achieved yet.
The holocaust is a state-sanctioned religious/mythical 'conspiracy theory'.
It was alleged, among other things at the Nuremburg trials, that the Nazis had: made Jewish shrunken heads, made soap from Jewish fat, made lampshades from Jewish skin, and that there were extermination camnps in Germany proper. All now proven to be false. People, some probably innocent, were sent to their deaths based on false evidence and false testimony.
The gas chamber shown for decades at Aushwitz was a Soviet fabrication, and for stating that truth in Austria, David Irving went to jail for over a year.
So, it appears you are in favor people being sent to death based on false evidence in Soveit-style show trials. And you are in favor of people being jailed for making true statements.
That sounds like the sort of thing a fucking Commie-loving totalitarian politically correct piece of shit would say. Burn the heretic!
I hope you get tossed in prison for questioning the Holodomor or burned at the stake for questioning some asinine religious orthodoxy one day. Perhaps then you will see the error of your ways.
Telling the truth in the empire of lies is a revolutionary act.
The holocaust is a state-sanctioned religious/mythical 'conspiracy theory'.
No, it's a documented, factual historical fact. Millions of Jews, Gypsies, Homosexuals, Mentally Ill Individuals and Political prisoners were executed methodically and brutally.
Telling the truth in the empire of lies is a revolutionary act.
But denying that the most horrendous act of genocide in modern history never happened is so outright shocking and sickening that jailtime is more than warranted. Those who do not learn from mistakes are doomed to repeat them, and we cannot afford to repeat the holocaust, no matter who would be on the receiving end that time.
The gas chamber shown for decades at Aushwitz was a Soviet fabrication
That isn't the same as the actual gas chamber being a fabrication. The fact of the matter is, millions of people were killed at that place. "How" doesn't really matter, at the end of the day.
That sounds like the sort of thing a fucking Commie-loving totalitarian politically correct piece of shit would say. Burn the heretic!
You're either trolling or crazy, and I'm not convinced it isn't both.
Actually, all I am stating are facts - with a little editorializing at the end for good measure.
Fact: The holocaust narrative describes a conspiracy by Hitler and the Nazis to exterminate the Jews. And yet there is no evidence Hitler ever ordered the Jews to be gassed - making it a theory.
Fact: it is state sanctioned. We have government-funded Holocaust Museums, holocaust education in government funded schools, we are still tracking down German camp guards 60 years after the war, and a dozen governments around the world make it punishable by law to challenge the scope of crimes against humanity as described and evaluated by the Nuremberg tribunal - which contained numerous falsehoods (shrunken heads, soap, lampshades, etc) with the truth being no defense.
Fact: The Aushwitz gas chamber shown to the public is an admitted Soviet post-war fabrication.
Fact: Stating the truth in no way denies the truth that the Nazis mass-murdered 10-20 million people. I have no idea why you would make such an absurd and crazy statement.
Finally, since you seem unacquainted with the facts and make up ridiculous arguments, I don't really give a damn what you think.
Exactly where is your fantasy of delusion and the racism extant in my post? You cannot show it because there is none. You cannot even deny the truth of my statements, because I can back everything I said with references. So you go to the old ad hominem attack again.
How about some real racism and delusion?
Claude Lanzmann, producer of the film Shoa, “Christ is false, and salvation will not come from him… Auschwitz is the refutation of Christ.”
Chew on that. Sounds like a delusional madman touting a state-sponsored mythical pseudoreligion to me.
So, until you can refute any of my factual statements - I deny your disgusting ad-hominem attack, and further assert that you are, in fact, projecting your own racism and delusion onto others.
Finally, jailing people for their opinions is categorically wrong, totalitarian thought-crime nonsense - especially if it is only about one particular line of thought. That is racist. The state has no business regulating opinions and free speech. To assert otherwise is to be a Commie/Nazi tyrant.
What about the fact that the official story of 9/11 is indeed a conspiracy theory, just like anything posted here?
The FBI admitted they don't have any evidence to link Osama Bin Laden to 9/11 (which is why it's not listed as one of his charges on their Most Wanted list)
I start by quoting this witty thing I found on the internet: "Chritianity is the belief that a cosmic Jewish Zombie who was his own father can make you live forever if you symbolically eat his flesh and telepathically tell him you accept him as your master, so he can remove an evil force from your soul that is present in humanity because a rib-woman was convinced by a talking snake to eat from a magical tree." It rarely succeeds.
A discussion about Pearl Harbor, Gulf of Tonkin, USS Liberty, Operation Northwoods/Mockingbird/Gladio is a good start. Also, "War is a Racket" by 2-time Medal of Honor winning Marine Maj-Gen Smedley Butler for your ex-military grandpa or uncle who thinks you're full of crap since you never served.
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7 karmadillo 2008-08-28
Here's what I'm fond of pointing out:
Carol Quigley and his revelations in Tragedy and Hope
The P2 Masonic Lodge
Operation Gladio
The business plot "against" FDR
Union Banking Corporation
Rockefeller's lawyer, Allen Dulles, placed as Director of Central Intelligence. Then the Rockefeller Commission, headed by Nelson Rockefeller, is tasked with investigating the same CIA that the John D. Rockefeller was instrumental in forming.
The Reece Committee Hearings
7 [deleted] 2008-08-28
It's my experience that some people are mere actors, willed on by their surroudings, following the script to the very end. They never thought for themselevs to start with and therefore can't be saved.
2 OsakaWilson 2008-08-28
Rewrite their script.
0 theantirobot 2008-08-28
I call them robots. It makes me happy though, because we can program them... via the Internet.
5 OsakaWilson 2008-08-28
The video that showed the Pentagon with a hole in it, but no marks where the wings would have hit and no debris did it for me. That they won't release the video taken from surrounding cameras only further re-enforces it.
That these people would do it is just beyond question.
4 polymath22 2008-08-28
i show them the back side of a US dollar bill.
2 oldcrow 2008-08-28
Don't forget the spider on the front!
It's hidden, right in front of you and watching you.
1 [deleted] 2008-08-28
That's not a spider, it is Molek the Owl
1 polymath22 2008-08-28
actually, i have heard both. that it is a spider, and that is an owl. im not sure which one is correct. it could be either. maybe thats the point.
1 GoFlight 2008-08-28
Oh, there's some crazy shit, man. There's a dude in the bushes. Has he got a gun? I dunno! RED TEAM GO, RED TEAM GO.
4 VoodooIdol 2008-08-28
Nothing has ever worked in waking up any "sheeple" , in my experience.
2 vague_blur 2008-08-28
I thought voodoo made people into zombies. I watched that serpent and the rainbow movie when I was a teenager, that was crazy.
4 [deleted] 2008-08-28
Ask them if they've read Orwell and know doublespeak. Then speak to them in doublespeak.
War is peace. Slavery is freedom. Debt is wealth.
4 EmpiresCrumble 2008-08-28
Personally, I like to go on the internet and yell at sheeple to wake up. For example:
WAKE UP SHEEPLE!!!!!1!eleven!!
3 [deleted] 2008-08-28
Sheeple like being sheeple. They put the blinders on and stick their fingers in their ears and yell "la la la la la" to block you out. They are living the dream. Nothing you say will convince them. Let them sleep.
1 [deleted] 2008-08-28
I disagree, sir. Unless something can provide evidence that it is so - and survive repeated attempts at disproving it - then it is not so. Thus, whilst people on self.conspiracy are free to call people such as myself "sheeple" for questioning many conspiracy theories, it does not actually make us sheeple. My concept of reality is right until proven wrong, and I am not convinced that that has been achieved yet.
1 rzm61 2008-08-28
I reject your reality and substitute my own!
1 smsc 2008-08-28
Tell that to the guys imprisoned in Europe for questioning the holocaust.
0 [deleted] 2008-08-28
I don't see what the problem here is.
1 smsc 2008-08-28
The holocaust is a state-sanctioned religious/mythical 'conspiracy theory'.
It was alleged, among other things at the Nuremburg trials, that the Nazis had: made Jewish shrunken heads, made soap from Jewish fat, made lampshades from Jewish skin, and that there were extermination camnps in Germany proper. All now proven to be false. People, some probably innocent, were sent to their deaths based on false evidence and false testimony.
The gas chamber shown for decades at Aushwitz was a Soviet fabrication, and for stating that truth in Austria, David Irving went to jail for over a year.
So, it appears you are in favor people being sent to death based on false evidence in Soveit-style show trials. And you are in favor of people being jailed for making true statements.
That sounds like the sort of thing a fucking Commie-loving totalitarian politically correct piece of shit would say. Burn the heretic!
I hope you get tossed in prison for questioning the Holodomor or burned at the stake for questioning some asinine religious orthodoxy one day. Perhaps then you will see the error of your ways.
Telling the truth in the empire of lies is a revolutionary act.
-1 [deleted] 2008-08-28
No, it's a documented, factual historical fact. Millions of Jews, Gypsies, Homosexuals, Mentally Ill Individuals and Political prisoners were executed methodically and brutally.
But denying that the most horrendous act of genocide in modern history never happened is so outright shocking and sickening that jailtime is more than warranted. Those who do not learn from mistakes are doomed to repeat them, and we cannot afford to repeat the holocaust, no matter who would be on the receiving end that time.
That isn't the same as the actual gas chamber being a fabrication. The fact of the matter is, millions of people were killed at that place. "How" doesn't really matter, at the end of the day.
You're either trolling or crazy, and I'm not convinced it isn't both.
0 smsc 2008-08-28
Actually, all I am stating are facts - with a little editorializing at the end for good measure.
Fact: The holocaust narrative describes a conspiracy by Hitler and the Nazis to exterminate the Jews. And yet there is no evidence Hitler ever ordered the Jews to be gassed - making it a theory.
Fact: it is state sanctioned. We have government-funded Holocaust Museums, holocaust education in government funded schools, we are still tracking down German camp guards 60 years after the war, and a dozen governments around the world make it punishable by law to challenge the scope of crimes against humanity as described and evaluated by the Nuremberg tribunal - which contained numerous falsehoods (shrunken heads, soap, lampshades, etc) with the truth being no defense.
Fact: The Aushwitz gas chamber shown to the public is an admitted Soviet post-war fabrication.
Fact: Stating the truth in no way denies the truth that the Nazis mass-murdered 10-20 million people. I have no idea why you would make such an absurd and crazy statement.
Finally, since you seem unacquainted with the facts and make up ridiculous arguments, I don't really give a damn what you think.
1 [deleted] 2008-08-28
That's cool, I do not require the opinions of a deluded racist to ensure my self-esteem or validation.
0 smsc 2008-08-28
Exactly where is your fantasy of delusion and the racism extant in my post? You cannot show it because there is none. You cannot even deny the truth of my statements, because I can back everything I said with references. So you go to the old ad hominem attack again.
How about some real racism and delusion?
Claude Lanzmann, producer of the film Shoa, “Christ is false, and salvation will not come from him… Auschwitz is the refutation of Christ.”
Chew on that. Sounds like a delusional madman touting a state-sponsored mythical pseudoreligion to me.
So, until you can refute any of my factual statements - I deny your disgusting ad-hominem attack, and further assert that you are, in fact, projecting your own racism and delusion onto others.
Finally, jailing people for their opinions is categorically wrong, totalitarian thought-crime nonsense - especially if it is only about one particular line of thought. That is racist. The state has no business regulating opinions and free speech. To assert otherwise is to be a Commie/Nazi tyrant.
1 jamesyboy 2008-08-28
What about the fact that the official story of 9/11 is indeed a conspiracy theory, just like anything posted here?
The FBI admitted they don't have any evidence to link Osama Bin Laden to 9/11 (which is why it's not listed as one of his charges on their Most Wanted list)
3 phobophobia 2008-08-28
I start by quoting this witty thing I found on the internet: "Chritianity is the belief that a cosmic Jewish Zombie who was his own father can make you live forever if you symbolically eat his flesh and telepathically tell him you accept him as your master, so he can remove an evil force from your soul that is present in humanity because a rib-woman was convinced by a talking snake to eat from a magical tree." It rarely succeeds.
2 pist 2008-08-28
http://www.media-alliance.org/article.php?story=20040513171349558
2 karma_chameleon 2008-08-28
The United States Constitution.
2 [deleted] 2008-08-28
7 Conspiracies that Actually Happened
Bill Hicks
More Bill Hicks
The second two aren't really minimalist facts, but I find humor always helps.
2 repoman 2008-08-28
A discussion about Pearl Harbor, Gulf of Tonkin, USS Liberty, Operation Northwoods/Mockingbird/Gladio is a good start. Also, "War is a Racket" by 2-time Medal of Honor winning Marine Maj-Gen Smedley Butler for your ex-military grandpa or uncle who thinks you're full of crap since you never served.
1 smsc 2008-08-28
Agreed.
1 shutupjoey 2008-08-28
Their shit's weak! Enough said.
1 Lithium_X 2008-08-28
The U.S. Constitution and bill of rights.
0 [deleted] 2008-08-28
I don't see what the problem here is.