r/conspiracy: Princeton University's 2014 study that confirmed the US is no longer a democracy, but an oligarchy where citizen's interests are ignored

Princeton University's 2014 study that confirmed the US is no longer a democracy, but an oligarchy where citizen's interests are ignored

411 2017-09-10 by agent570358201

The study (link to abstract & pdf) confirmed the US is an oligarchy (definition), and not a democracy.

It was widely reported on.

etc. etc.

Them and their $6.5 billion election charades have got to go.

33 comments

1 kit8642 2017-09-10

Jimmu Carter agrees:

Former president Jimmy Carter said Tuesday on the nationally syndicated radio show the Thom Hartmann Program that the United States is now an “oligarchy” in which “unlimited political bribery” has created “a complete subversion of our political system as a payoff to major contributors.” Both Democrats and Republicans, Carter said, “look upon this unlimited money as a great benefit to themselves.”

1 CivilianConsumer 2017-09-10

What's Jimmy done to stop it? He still gladhands at DNC fundraisers no?

1 mastermind04 2017-09-10

There seems to be this thing that politicians fo where they admit that the system is broken, and they admit that it needs to be fixed but then do nothing. At one point oboma did the same thing during his presidency near the end about the same topic, and others on Cspan. Maybe they are trying to alert the people that the system is failing, but the hand jammed up their ass prevents them from doing anything.

1 Mooseisabitfat 2017-09-10

There's always a lesser of two evils to consider as well. I know the system is broken and I know they're corrupt. I'll still vote for the one most likely to achieve my goals. I can't see myself stopping, without some big event shaking things up.

1 DancingPhantoms 2017-09-10

it's not that they won't do something, it's that they can't. the whole system must change in order for change to occur. You must implement completely new regulations that might not even be possible to pass with how little incentive their is for politicians to pass this legislation.

1 killerjavi98 2017-09-10

Bribery of Politicians is legal in the U.S.

1 rch7953 2017-09-10

Insider trading too.

As long as "one" person stands to gain from it.

1 deweyweber 2017-09-10

Wow, what a MANLY thing for Princeton to do. That's one giant leap for MANKIND.

1 kit8642 2017-09-10

What do you mean by this comment? Genuinely curious.

1 RemixxMG 2017-09-10

Neil Armstrong might be an alum? Idk, just guessing.

1 kit8642 2017-09-10

Quite the stretch, but at least you connect a dot. Thanks!

1 INTELDracula 2017-09-10

We were never a democracy in the first place.

1 Jack_Freeman 2017-09-10

We were a democratic Republic at one time, or otherwise called a Representative democracy. I think you're being a bit overly dramatic. A Republic is a form of democracy. You're getting bogged down in semantics and/or being too negative about the context of our past and progression to this point.

1 BallaForLife 2017-09-10

Not really, we're a constitutional republic and always have been. We elect leaders to represent the people, the people do not make the laws and guidelines of this country nor vote on them.

1 Jack_Freeman 2017-09-10

Yes really, again semantics. We are a constitutional Republic which is a form of a democratic Republic. They are all apples from the same branch of Democracy. You are referring to a Direct Democracy if the people vote on issues or new legislation and you are referring to a Republican Democracy when you refer to a representative form of democracy. Democracy is an umbrella and encompasses a number of different models. I very much understand how this government is designed, thank you.

TIL Constitutional Republic isn't a democracy according to this guy.

1 ihavetenfingers 2017-09-10

Right, but you the option to actually elect said leaders.

What you're wishing for is a DIRECT democracy, and that simply won't work.

1 INTELDracula 2017-09-10

No I'm not we were never a democracy like I said.

1 CivilianConsumer 2017-09-10

Not in the pure mob rules classical Greek democracy style you're referring to

1 action_turtle 2017-09-10

Read all these stages; https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plato%27s_five_regimes

Interesting imo

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1 Askmenothingok 2017-09-10

What! This is outrageous!

Oh look something else!

What were we saying? Ah I forgot

1 bamboobooks 2017-09-10

I could have told you that and I don't even live in America.

If you have your government mass manufacturing weapons of mass destruction and telling lies to people to invade foreign countries, I mean... you surely have to suspect that something is up.

1 squirtdawg 2017-09-10

Yea the world hates our FREEDOM

1 bamboobooks 2017-09-10

I am jealous. If only I could own a gun. I would feel so much freer.

1 ihavetenfingers 2017-09-10

You can own a gun AND get IT infrastructure straight out of 90's Uganda, just move to the US!

1 NectarCollecting 2017-09-10

Peasants to the Walmart family

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1 alexisthepyro 2017-09-10

Why should we care what their study says?

Does it have more merit if it confirms my previously held beliefs?

Would an establishment/business such as Princeton really reveal anything about a true conspiracy, or would they be in collusion like others?

1 fowuhhmcoe 2017-09-10

Here it is.

http://i.imgur.com/eoChcXj.png This is the illegal false debt usury that enslaves and oppressed all Americans. This stolen wealth (well over a trillion a year) goes directly to the owners of the federal reserve. This makes them the unseen oligarchy of the USA. This is why the .1% are so insanely wealthy and have more wealth than the bottom 90% combined.

This is the most important idea, the pinnacle of conspiracy, the peak of global focus on Earth. Why? How? There are private central banks in almost every nation on Earth. Many of them are owned by the BIS. BIS and their asian variant are owned by IMF. There is a power structure that seeks to destroy nations and control the world. All of the wars, suffering, bullshit, this is it.

1 alexisthepyro 2017-09-10

Wow that's quite a few references there. I'll have to take a look at some.

Can I ask why you think I'm being downvoted for asking questions?

1 fowuhhmcoe 2017-09-10

Wow that's quite a few references there. I'll have to take a look at some.

The 'drier mike' bit is good and really directly on the federal reserve. The all wars are bankers wars involves the banking system and their actions. Both are great in my opinion.

Can I ask why you think I'm being downvoted for asking questions?

Shills don't want people to know the USA is run by the banking oligarchy? Some people are in denial of these ideas? I don't know.

1 robowriter 2017-09-10

No kidding. So how to dismantle the monopolies, and that includes Google and Facebook.

1 action_turtle 2017-09-10

I don't think it's only the US that has this issue, but it does seem to be blazing the trail, for sure.

1 BaSkA_ 2017-09-10

Can't wait for people to blame this one on capitalism.

Classic.

1 alexisthepyro 2017-09-10

Wow that's quite a few references there. I'll have to take a look at some.

Can I ask why you think I'm being downvoted for asking questions?