"Conspiracy Theorists cling to conspiracies because it is more comforting than accepting the truth that none of us are in control, and that some things just happen"
3 2017-09-12 by AlHaSt
I think that it is more comforting to remain ignorant and to go along with the status quo than to challenge evil head on. I fear for my life and everyone else's here because if any of us really are right and manage to convince enough people of it, we will be killed. How is this idea comforting? How is it comforting to realize your own government kills innocent people for profit and power? It is the exact opposite. I stress more, I fear more, and I hate more because of it. I get that love is the way or whatever hippie bullshit you want to convince people is possible, but how can I remain comfortable and calm when I know in my heart that evil is winning, and by an insurmountable margin.
Edit: To those that are religious on this sub, I find it hard to take your opinion seriously. You love to question reality and our government, but you don't question the biggest lie of all, religion. It is hypocritical and proves to me that you don't quite have your views and philosophy straight yet, which is fine, but what started this dark age was money, oil, and still (after 4000 years) religion. How can you believe that "jews are involved in the global banking system" and also "god allows this evil to exist, because it is his plan". Your logic and reasoning defy your own biblical texts, and if you were to go along with what your lovely little book says, then, at some point in your lives, you would rape and own slaves. You also wouldn't be able to wear more than one type of garment, regardless of which of the three religions you belong to. Either follow it to the letter or shut it. You're not a good (insert lie here) if you don't follow it to the letter, and if your god existed he would tell you that shit. I'm sick of hearing about letting this all slide because "there's life after death" and "its all apart of his plan, there's always a calm before the storm". This is a sub of reason, but instead you make it a circle jerk of idiocy.
Edit 2: When the first edit is longer than your whole argument >.< GOD dammit, guys
68 comments
1 TruthHammerOfJustice 2017-09-12
That's exactly what the Government would say.
1 HempCO719 2017-09-12
Or they want us of the topic so they don't have to cover things up anymore. Do you know how freely people would be fucking kids out there if none of us 'theorists' clung onto pizzagate? We are in control of what we cling to. More things are gonna happen.
1 downisupp 2017-09-12
i think the "day of judgement" is the day the house of card has fallen and humanity can see what they have done behind the curtains.
1 HempCO719 2017-09-12
I'm not longer putting my faith in future dates. I'm starting to think they only come around as checkpoints, nullifying our (the end users) investigative motivation until that individual date is reached
1 downisupp 2017-09-12
i think most of the ancient prophets where high on Syrian rue, and one of the active ingredients in Syrian Rue is Harmine. but the scientist who identified the properties of Harmine wanted to name it Telepathine.
if you go and read on drug forums about Syrian Rue, they are all saying dont eat pork or drink alcohol a couple of days before that
1 HempCO719 2017-09-12
Does that have something to do with Columbs?
1 downisupp 2017-09-12
can you expand? dont know what you are referring to
1 HempCO719 2017-09-12
Name for a type of psychic
1 downisupp 2017-09-12
there where probably a lot of different types of psychedelics back then.
different plants that has gone extinct by now. i even read that the ancient Egyptians used some bugs for there trips.
we have syrian rue,mimosa hostilis and the acacia tree family and god knows what more they used :)
1 downisupp 2017-09-12
in ancient Egypt or Mesopotamia? its probably some form of shamanism. where they used different drugs then we are used to today.
like the acacia tree family ( a lot of acacia trees on masonic paintings ),mimosa hostilis, syrian rue and even some bugs
1 HempCO719 2017-09-12
I got the reference from this. Its somewhere in the last -30:00. Kind of obscure but I haven't found anywhere else with information on them.
1 AlHaSt 2017-09-12
this is an accurate explanation as to how religion was created
1 Step2TheJep 2017-09-12
Has it ever occurred to you that 'pizzagate' was a psyop in and of itself? Or is this 'impossible' to you?
1 HempCO719 2017-09-12
Not impossible. But the evidence weighs against it.
1 Step2TheJep 2017-09-12
What evidence? What are the three best pieces of evidence which convinced you that this is legitimate? I am open-minded.
1 HempCO719 2017-09-12
This is the third time you are trying to take a crap on me bro. What's your deal? You want to frequent r/ conspiracy and ignore post after post of this circumstantial evidence and think everything is just peachy? It seems like are trying to rope me in as an individual, vice doing ANY RESEARCH YOURSELF
1 Step2TheJep 2017-09-12
Relax, man, it was just a simple question.
1 HempCO719 2017-09-12
Its all good man.
1 Chuck_Rogers 2017-09-12
Are you serious with this?
I mean, I understand delusions of grandeur but this is insane
1 HempCO719 2017-09-12
Its good to know that you a fine with it.
1 downisupp 2017-09-12
most of the bullshit here is state sponsored propaganda.
take this for a example. Hitler dident die in the bunker, he probably fled to Argentina long before the conquest of Berlin.
but when you start looking into it you are bombarded whit bullshit like, Nazi secret base on the south pole. reptilian or Aryan looking aliens are on his side.. bla bla bla and you are slowly digging into a false rabbit hole
1 Thy_Weapon_Of_War 2017-09-12
Hitler really did "escape" to South America. The Antarctica stuff is disinfo, yes. It is put there by the Establishment to "muddy the waters" and try to discredit the truth that Hitler and many other top Nazis were allowed to escape to South America.
The reason this is hugely important is because it shows that Hitler was merely a controlled opposition agent working for the Rothschilds and other NWO chieftans. They allowed Hitler and other top Nazis, after doing the work they were tasked to do, to live out their lives in secrecy.
1 downisupp 2017-09-12
ohh cant say anything else then i agree whit you..
1 AlHaSt 2017-09-12
I would agree. They muddy the waters, but a lot of people, here especially, fall for it.
1 HideFoundHide 2017-09-12
If no one truly understands what they are doing as they are doing it, in a past look at our actions, it means that there is a higher power coordinating such events and has existential meaning, it also means we should be tracking all of our actions to see where we are subverted by this unknown influence.
1 AlHaSt 2017-09-12
higher powers are just comfort tools to take the blame away from individuals who actually do get to choose who lives and dies
1 HideFoundHide 2017-09-12
What does blame do for you exactly? Personally. What's the result of blaming people in your life experience...
1 AlHaSt 2017-09-12
holding people accountable for their actions? I mean if someone steals my wallet I'm not going to go "aw shit, well god must've wanted it that way". I'm going to either chase after him and take it back myself or ensure the police catch the man responsible. Blame does a lot if it is directed appropriately. If you blame the right people, thats called justice. And if you have the capacity to blame yourself sometimes, you can grow and learn from your mistakes. So blame does a lot for me personally. Next.
1 HideFoundHide 2017-09-12
I think you mistake blame for responsibility but that's my perspective.
1 fuufnfr 2017-09-12
If its any comfort, for an old fart like me it feels like finally people are waking up. Evil is going to lose after all.
Just a generation ago NOBODY knew or talked about this shit. Now there's a whole slice of the internet discussing it everyday.
1 Thy_Weapon_Of_War 2017-09-12
I agree. I see a mass awakening happening right now. For example, who would have ever thought that now probably 30-40% of the population knows that the globalist elite are a big pedophile cult (ie, from Pizzagate). The dam broke with the 2016 Presidential election and Trump, with Trump focusing on "globalism", which caused huge numbers of people to begin talking and researching issues related to the NWO agenda, and leading people down the rabbit hole.
1 Step2TheJep 2017-09-12
What makes you say that? I look around and I see more zombies than ever before.
1 vts845 2017-09-12
50/50
1 haveyouseenmymarble 2017-09-12
I agree that ignorance is vastly more comforting than realization. But seeing the world as it is, doesn't have to be as dire as you make it out to be.
Love is not the way, in the sense it is often understood (passivity, mainly). I'd see it more as the point between the three elements of love, bravery, and truth.
Love in the sense of compassion makes you feel all the potential of humanity along with the perpetual failure to live up to it, largely due to sabotage of the many by the few. It takes brave convictions to withstand the downward current that was set for us and to embody your true calling despite fear or uncertainty. There's nothing hippie bullshit about someone with honest convictions.
Besides, what makes you so sure that evil is winning by an insurmountable margin? It's always darkest before the dawn, isn't it? I can already hear the birds chirping. Maybe it's time to get yourself ready for a brand new day. Take care of yourself, brother/sister. Noone else will.
1 Thy_Weapon_Of_War 2017-09-12
OP, I generally agree with your post, but they aren't going to kill all of us. There are too many of us. Probably a good 30-40% of the population in the West are aware of various key aspects of the NWO conspiracy -- eg, knowing the truth about 9/11, Sandy Hook, Pizzagate, etc. They only will kill key eyewitnesses to crimes (eg, key JFK assassination witnesses, etc).
1 AlHaSt 2017-09-12
I think if you believe god exists you're missing the point. People don't start a nuclear war because having a nuclear weapon doesn't mean you want to use one. It's a political defense mechanism and an effective one. It allows you to assert power over those that don't have a nuke. God doesn't exist, nor has he ever. Just like democracy, capitalism, and the idea of good v. evil itself, god is a man-made creation to give comfort to those who can't explain it because they simply don't want to dig deep enough to find out. They're willing to take us all down with them, and they of all people know there isn't any higher power that will judge them for doing so. If any politician truly believed in hell or heaven, then they'd act upon it. But instead they use christ for votes, and use fear to control. If a fucking college kid can see how obvious this is, then someone who's spent their entire life studying how to manipulate and control would have a much more vast knowledge of tactics to use.
1 Thy_Weapon_Of_War 2017-09-12
God must exist. The physical universe is finite in both time and space. It had a beginning. Some "entity" or "force" separate from the physical universe must have caused the physical universe to come into existence. That "entity" is the Creator or "God".
1 AlHaSt 2017-09-12
And we're getting closer and closer to proving that none of that is true. In fact, most of what you said can be disproven, I just don't have a degree in String Theory, Physics, or anything of the sort. I assume that you don't either. We don't even know if the universe is finite because we cannot see past "The OBSERVABLE universe" because light physical has not reached us yet and probably won't be able to or already has passed out of view. This is pretty common knowledge. Assume that some force did start the big bang, how would he have then been able to control what occurs afterward if he wasn't apart of the physical universe? It would have to imply that there are multiple universes, multiple dimensions even, and to say that one person created all of that implies that he would have to have knowledge of how to do so prior to doing so. It would have to mean that whoever it was that created it evolved from an organism that because so advanced that it surpassed the need for a physical form. All of these assumptions don't have much evidence to back them up, so naw fam, god doesn't exist, and my generation is going to be the ones to prove it. It's just more about if you accept a fact or not, similar to whether or not you believe in climate change.
1 Thy_Weapon_Of_War 2017-09-12
Climate change? That's a total fraud. It's part of the globalist/communist agenda, and the justification for lowering human population, increasing taxation and government regulation and control, and global government.
1 AlHaSt 2017-09-12
its real independent of what we do. And since I have many family and friends who live in Houston and Miami, it is actually a real, terrifying thing. I fear it more than terrorism, considering that at least is controlled by a government. Hurricanes and natural disasters aren't and they'll displace and kill more people than any government ever could. You sound like an Alex Jones supporter or a McCarthian era nut with "globalist/communist agenda". Communism is a better idea, morally, than any other form of economics, its just not feasible in a population over a few million. And the human population should be lowered, significantly, but I don't have to do anything for that to occur, the 30ft of water that 3 billion people will have to endure in their homes will do just that. Either they migrate or die. And that's not just in Asia and the Mediterranean, thats the entire state of Florida, Louisiana, and cities like New York, Boston, Philadelphia, Washington D.C., and many more becoming entirely inhabitable within less than 50 years. Even if we extend our timestamp, its still going to happen within 200 years at an absolute guaranteed rate. So you can choose to believe it or not, it doesn't really matter. Nature doesn't give a fuck what you believe.
1 Thy_Weapon_Of_War 2017-09-12
Wow, you really have bought all the bullshit that the jewish/Communist Establishment sells, huh? Climate change, communism, forcible lowering of human population. Almost the whole lot of lies.
The sea level is not rising by any significant margin. If at all, something negligible. The north pole ice cap is not going to completely melt, as Al Gore predicted in 2009 that it would be gone by 2014. It's all total fear-mongering. The earth is now in a cooling phase, and has been for at least the last 15 years. The "scientists" were caught doctoring the data to fake a "global warming trend" that was not actually occuring.
1 AlHaSt 2017-09-12
It is fear mongering, but for good reason. I can't change your opinion, and honestly I shouldn't, the world is much better when there is a fool to laugh at. Al Gore ain't no prophet, data is ever changing, and if anything, there is certainly no shortage of uneducated people, and you prove that very well. I've been anti-establishment my whole life, and thats any establishment. If anything, I would enjoy seeing us implement a system where, if you didn't supply any benefit to society (i.e. labor, ideas, love, wisdom), you would be either exiled, jailed, or killed. I would love to see us take intellect that seriously. There are too many people, and too many stupid people that procreate. If the climate change doesn't do it, then I'll vote for someone who will. I don't believe communism is able to survive in any country with more than ~3 million people and stated that, so personally I am not a supporter of communism in that sense. I don't really support any of the -ism's because they all teach the "Us v. Them" mentality, and that is the mentality of a slave. I used to be jewish and rejected that faith because it makes no sense and is rooted in discrimination, but so is christianity and islam. You constantly bicker about petty differences, and to the ones who are well versed enough to see past it, it's just taken as a dark joke. You're nothing more than a pawn, so am I. Your bones will look exactly the same to a jew and a communist, and you can't do anything to change that. So when people look at our corpses in the aftermath, they will not be able to tell the difference between a jew and a christian or a communist and a capitalist, they will just view you and I as another poor stupid soul who couldn't see the error of their ways. And once your heart stops beating and you take your last breath, you won't realize just how petty you are, because you'll be dead, and thats it. Blank. Nada. You can bicker all you want, but the world will keep on spinning without us. If you want to witness real fear, real pain and anguish, then just keep breathing, my friend. I assure you that one vice or another will consume you as it has consumed all of us.
1 Thy_Weapon_Of_War 2017-09-12
There is life beyond this life. I know that my life has meaning and a purpose. Perhaps that is the biggest difference between someone like me and someone like you.
1 AlHaSt 2017-09-12
my life has meaning and purpose because I'm able to imagine ways to create that purpose without an external force. Your life has meaning to you, and that is about it. Same goes for me. The only difference here is education.
1 Step2TheJep 2017-09-12
Upvoted. You seem to get it. I am glad to see people like you around these parts.
1 Thy_Weapon_Of_War 2017-09-12
Thanks brother.
1 likes-to-use-italics 2017-09-12
How can you talk about other people buying bullshit when you're buying the world's biggest conspiracy? It makes no sense that you can believe in a god with absolutely no evidence but you don't believe in science.
1 Thy_Weapon_Of_War 2017-09-12
No evidence? More like all the evidence in the world. Newsflash...you are on a conspiracy sub. Conspiracies are real. They are not all "theories", as the jewish/communist Lamestream media tells you.
1 likes-to-use-italics 2017-09-12
I know where I am, and I didn't mention theories. I said religion is a conspiracy. You guys think you can do whatever you want and ask forgiveness of some almighty being and everything is okay.
1 thewhitemarch 2017-09-12
Just remember, Hoover spent his entire career claiming there was no such thing as organized crime. Consider the implications. Then consider the implications when sources like the Atlantic claim "there is no deep state."
Double speak is real. It is used to great effect. It is the norm. If an establishment politician says something, there is a great chance the exact opposite is true.
1 treeslooklikelamb 2017-09-12
Pretty much this. If they're lying about this thing, what else are they lying about?
1 Mecanatron 2017-09-12
The truth shall set you free.
It really is that simple.
1 Step2TheJep 2017-09-12
What's the truth, bro? I'm here to learn.
1 Mecanatron 2017-09-12
Thats only something that you can decide for yourself. No one here can tell you what to believe, only to research before you decide.
1 Step2TheJep 2017-09-12
What conclusions have you come to?
1 Mecanatron 2017-09-12
I dont really get to conclusions researching this stuff. I gain different perspectives as i move through a topic and research it.
The only rule that I have is to keep my theories fluid.
That way if new evidence presents itself that contradicts what i previously thought, i'm open to change.
1 ServantofSaturn 2017-09-12
It sounds like you need to stop being so afraid of dying. It's not the end of your journey unless you strongly want it to be.
1 AlHaSt 2017-09-12
there is nothing after death, so I value life greatly, as should everyone. It is the idea that there is something after death that allows us to justify letting someone die or taking someone's life in the first place. If we knew nothing came after for a fact and accepted it, then we would be much more concerned about the future for our kids and about how we live in the present.
1 ServantofSaturn 2017-09-12
Really? You believe we kill each other because we collectively believe there is something after death? Or do you think maybe people are just losing control of their emotions and acting impulsively when they commit murder?
1 AlHaSt 2017-09-12
for the religious who observe it on the news, thats how most of them react. For those in the situation itself, it is a much more complicated case.
1 ServantofSaturn 2017-09-12
I think you're making things up based on your own feelings here.
1 AlHaSt 2017-09-12
no, saying its complicated is implying there are many factors that go into the decision to kill, which there are, that is a fact, that is psychology 101. In fact, most of what I "make up" is based on primary sources, first hand accounts, and statistical data regarding specific behaviors (which are often shaky as human nature itself is hard to analyze on a graph). I think I'm analyzing and logically thinking about this, but that's just me
1 MegaLegBeats 2017-09-12
You are doing yourself a disservice if you don’t genuinely consider this is what you’re doing. Honestly guys, being aware of this tendency can help keep us grounded in reality as we wander through all this shit
1 Step2TheJep 2017-09-12
We ought to be as skeptical of our own opinions as we are of others (if not more so).
1 MegaLegBeats 2017-09-12
That dude in the video has to be trolling... please?
1 Step2TheJep 2017-09-12
Given that you replied within two minutes, you cannot possibly have watched even half of the video (even at 2x speed). In other words, you have judged the video by its title, proving the exact point I was making. Thank you.
1 MegaLegBeats 2017-09-12
I skipped around to the main points of his argument. Lmao does my response not address what he is asserting, that rockets aren’t aerodynamically correct enough to fly the way that they do. I skipped to the part where he was explaining they the way rockets fly makes no sense.
I didn’t Judge it at face value, I’m just really good at wading through bullshit. I do plan to watch the entire video when I have time, and always planned to do so.
1 Step2TheJep 2017-09-12
Like I said, thanks for proving my point.
1 MegaLegBeats 2017-09-12
What about his argument did I miss? Exactly.
1 downisupp 2017-09-12
ohh cant say anything else then i agree whit you..