https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atlantic_hurricane_season

I always wonder why they don't try to weaken the storms when they are just tropical depressions. Especially after having two wreck the coast. It's not like they don't see them forming out at sea.

Because "they" created the storm in the first place and the destruction was entirely intended.

That's debatable, but we do know for sure they can weaken storms with cloud seeding. I'm surprised more people aren't asking why they don't weaken / kill them early.

my point might be an explanation for that

do you see our comments? I see my first comment and your reply, but I don't see my 2nd or this one I'm responding to in the thread.

Oh hey, as a matter of fact i don't see our last two comments there. WTF is that?

How is this more probable than the thousands of climate scientists actually being correct when they warned "Global Warming is happening and will cause stronger, more frequent storms"?

How is this more probable

how is not?

Because it's easier to believe a group of professions did their jobs competently than an an unknown group used an unknown technology to destroy Puerto Rico

What's easier to believe about some unknown group you call professionals doing an unbiased job you know nothing about first hand than that the PTB are behaving as they always have?

Climate professionals aren't unknown. They have faculty pages, they sign articles and white papers. They go to conferences. They submit their findings to peer review. And on average their predictions have been pretty spot on.

So what conspiracy do you believe in?

The massive propaganda effort being funded by right-wing corporate interests to sacrifice the future of this planet so a handful people can further enrich themselves over the near term.

i see. that's very specific.

The only problem I have with his argument is "right-wing" because of the obvious collusion on both sides in regards to this. I don't think the "enrichment" angle is that convincing...TPTB are going to profit regardless. Maybe you'll be able to trade carbon credits for food someday! /s

I'm not gonna tell you not to believe in the equivalence of elected representatives regarding climate change and relationship to the fossil fuel industry -- but I do ask that you consider the possibility that there are measurable differences in behavior between elected members of the major parties, that there are likewise differences between the preferences and behavior of individual people operating within this system, and that it is reasonable for a person to believe that not all elected officials are completely interchangeable.

If they are both being paid by the same person, then it doesn't really matter much what they say then. The seesawing of control of the executive branch is a ruse. And obviously, I believe that not all elected officials are interchangeable. That's why Sanders couldn't have changed places with Clinton and won the election, right?

You know that one season is an anecdote right? Not proof. The past ten years have had mild hurricanes. Was that proof that global warming is fake?

We've had really weak hurricanes for the past 12 years. So thousands of climate scientists were wrong, again.

Weather modification technology.

I'm not sure I buy into weather maniulation in the sense of strengthening or weakening hurricanes and changing their course.

I'm sure it's all just a bunch of bullshit. "Go back to bed, America, your Government is in control..."

I know weather manipulation exsists, cloud seeding has been a known thing for some time.

What I'm having a hard time believing is that the technology exsists to manipulate hurricanes. Just because a patent exsists does not mean the technology is available to use, you could go get a patent for a time machine...that doesn't mean you have a working time machine.

To "manipulate" a hurricane, you just have to steer it in the direction you want it to go. HOW do you do that? Create areas of high and low pressure AROUND the hurricane and it will naturally head in the only direction that it can. For example, take a look at this weather chart during Hurricane Irma: https://i.imgur.com/iFwtzfP.jpg

IF there is a high pressure zone sitting above where the hurrican is located, it can't move. It just sits in one place and spins. As soon as you move that high pressure zone, it continues its natural course. Creating these high and low pressure zones is relatively easy with HAARP-like technology and cloud seeding with aluminum particles being sprayed into the atmosphere.

I get what you're saying. But why steer a cat 5 hurricane into the Caribbean?

This is hurricane season in the Atlantic, so nothing seems odd about them. Their courses don't seem different than hurricanes of past. Nothing seems odd about Irma, Jose or Maria IMO.

Creating strings of 'natural' disasters takes it's toll on the people and the economy. It also pushes globalist agendas like: funding for FEMA, UN involvement, dependence on central government, debt, depopulation, etc. It also serves to 'weaken' a base. Texas is usually thought of a self-governing, free wheeling, bastion of freedom and individual liberty. But, when people are busy rebuilding their lives, they don't have time for activism or national-level political involvements. It helps to destroy nationalism and steers us towards globalism.

"...why steer a cat 5 hurricane into the Caribbean?"

Depopulation.

I'm telling ya, this isn't convincing at all.

Believe what you want. The noose is getting smaller every day. Someday soon, we're going to feel the knot on the back of our neck.

What's odd about Hurricane Irma? What truth is out there that backs up the claim that either someone steered it onto the path it took or strengthened it to a category 5?

What truth is out there that backs up the claim that either someone steered it

Weather charts and maps (signs of HAARP-like radiation signatures)

Historical comparison. How close to a "normal" event was it from start-to-finish? Was this an outlier? Anything unusual about it's size, path, or growth?

Modern comparison. How close does this match the pattern of other recent storms? (last 10 years) Any unusual chemtrail activities or spraying before the event? (weather modification)

I'm just a dude bored at work stating my opinion online. I haven't gone through all that data and I don't have the time to. I'm pretty certain that the data would reveal past hurricanes that have followed a similar path.

I'm on the fence as far as the HAARP conspiracy goes. I do believe governments have tried to manipulate the weather, but I'm not sold on it to this extent yet.

Also becase global warming is fake and we are in year 15 of a cooling period everything south of the equator will be prime land. So natural disasters is a way to forcibly gentrify locals etc etc.

There have been/will be lots of weather firsts we'll be told is "totally natural" and "definitely happened before".

It's actually pretty simple. Warmer than usual waters, good humidity, and low wind shear. That's pretty much all you need to make powerful hurricanes. Meanwhile the Atlantic subtropical high is the main guiding force, as you can see by Irma following its edge and turning North after reaching the southwestern point. A mid latitude trough pulled in right after Irma driving back the subtropical high. This is why Jose and subsequent hurricanes are turning North sooner.

I'm starting to think that those who don't comprehend situational conditions, form an idea of a boogeyman.

See if you can notice a pattern as well?

And we must also take into account that world renowned physicist Dr. Michio Kaku on the CBS Morning Show claimed "flooding and hurricanes are subject to weather modification."

Hurricane Patricia did something similar. She set a couple records a few years back .

How old are you op? Because it's likely you weren't around for the previous hurricane season. Just saying.

Even people here for Marilyn and Hugo claim Irma was the worst they've seen. Four cat 4's and two cat 5's is beyond odd.

If Al Gore got his electricity usage under control and gave up the CO2 spewing private jet, we wouldn't be having this conversation

Global warming is a myth except when it's real and it's Al Gores fault.

Yes

Could be possible we are experiencing a climate shift!

Not directly related to hurricanes. But I've been thinking about how the Earth is clearly changing and it is effecting the seasons and when they typically occur. I believe in a few years we will have to readjust when winter is or summer is, shifting away from the time periods we think of them in.

That makes zero sense if you know anything about why there are seasons. We aren't changing the climate so much the earth orbit is different ffs

Well I'm definitely not a scientist and never claimed it to be fact. Just a theory of mine.

Your theory is bad and you should feel bad. We have seasons because our planet has a tilted axis.

I completely understand that. My original point was obviously explained like shit but whatever man.

Planet X getting closer could be fucking up our rotation.

Isn't the world ending on the 23rd too?

September 23rd is near

Why are some of our comments getting shadowbanned on this thread?

I'm certain they have all kinds of weather tech available but lets also not forget that we as ignorant humans don't fully understand what nature is capable of here on earth, and it definitely seems like our overall climate is shifting somehow which could have unpredictable outcomes.

Hurricanes boost the economy and provoke nationalism and community. It's that fucking simple.

If you think HAARP is responsible for these, do some quick math.

A rough estimation for an average Category 3 Hurricane consists of 6.0 x 10¹⁴ Watts of energy. That's 600,000 Gigawatts of energy.

HAARP operates with 5 2500 kilowatt generators. That's 0.0125 Gigawatts.

0.0125 Gigawatts into 600,000 isn't going to change a thing.

There is little chance that HAARP has enough energy to do anything to a hurricane, let alone grow it to Category 5 from 1.

HAARP, although I'm not sure where it's located now. They took the one in AK down. I think there's one in greenland? If it's not HAARP now, it's the lasting effect of HAARP's 1 BILLION watts of power being shot into the ionosphere to heat it up over the course of the last 10 years.

So in this super shilled thread we have shadowbanned comments and no explanation for it. Can we get one?

Possible weather modification to scare the sheep into paying carbon tax?

Creating strings of 'natural' disasters takes it's toll on the people and the economy. It also pushes globalist agendas like: funding for FEMA, UN involvement, dependence on central government, debt, depopulation, etc. It also serves to 'weaken' a base. Texas is usually thought of a self-governing, free wheeling, bastion of freedom and individual liberty. But, when people are busy rebuilding their lives, they don't have time for activism or national-level political involvements. It helps to destroy nationalism and steers us towards globalism.

"...why steer a cat 5 hurricane into the Caribbean?"

Depopulation.

Oh hey, as a matter of fact i don't see our last two comments there. WTF is that?